is there a "fake market" for the g1 like how iphone has cydia and rockapp?
Short answer, no. The only reason those applications were developed is because everything in the App Store has to be approved by Apple and is sand-boxed in to it's own little folder that can't affect the entire system. Things work very differently in the Android market, anything can be submitted, but if it wants to modify any part of the firmware (/system) it can't unless it's granted root permissions. So android users simply need to "root" their device to take full advantage of those applications, iPhone users need to jailbreak to get them on there in the first place.
There is an app called SlideME, wich is another market with tons of apps, most of them are on the android market, but there are some that you can find it only there.
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I'm currently running Google Android on my HTC Touch Vogue thanks to dzo, but I'm wondering, why is the Marketplace not available for other phones yet?
I mean, the OS is pretty well pointless at stock. All you can do is check your email and browse the web (oh right, and make calls too!). It's the applications that make it useful.
Is there any reason in specific that Google decided not to make the Marketplace available to the open-source public?
And on the same matter, if I were to request somone upload .apk's of certain (free) apps from the Marketplace, would that be deemed warez?
I'm dying to get my hands on several apps, including meebo, fBook and Twidroid, all of which are free, but are only available on the Marketplace
It would not be considered wares because they are free apps and games. As far as the market im not sure why its not open to public.
Ok then, would anyone be willing to upload the .apk's of "fbook, "Twidroid" and "meebo"?
Thanks in advance.
If i get a hold of them i will put them in my sig files and let you know, i am searching for them every day and adding them as I get them. meebo added!!
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If i get a hold of them i will put them in my sig files and let you know, i am searching for them every day and adding them as I get them. meebo added!!
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Thanks stats!
And on the same matter, if I were to request somone upload .apk's of certain (free) apps from the Marketplace, would that be deemed warez?
I'm dying to get my hands on several apps, including meebo, fBook and Twidroid, all of which are free, but are only available on the Marketplace
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There is an optional feature for apks published to Market to key the apk to the G1 that originally downloaded it. Probably won't be usable until billing is enabled for Market sometime early next year.
try android-dls.com they have .apk's for many apps on te market
I and several other persons (I have read forum posts about) have heard from Google that they will be putting access to the Android Market via the internet.
My comment to them was that if one had to use the phone to get to the market than they were no better than the "i" (insert SUCKS) market.
Their comment back was that they were working on access to the market from a PC via the internet.
So, it is just a matter of time.
Google keeps the applications that interface with their services (Market, GMail, Maps) closed source. As long as you can get the apk's to those applications, you should be able to install them. Google really should add these apps to the android repository so everyone can access them.
I created web site for android free and open source applications just for users like you, who don't have access to the Marketplace for any reason. There is nothing uploaded yet but as soon i finish my other work i will take care of this. If anyone want to upload an app please register. URL is http://andapps.org
NOTE: Administrators and moderators. I know that this is some sort of spam, but i am not doing this for profit. Just one user helping other users. Fell free to remove this link if you want.
Security By Obscurity
The Marketplace client uses restricted API calls to perform some functions (http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/msg/71f14048eec1c8df), also there is no public web interface into the market, so I think Google believe that revealing what the Marketplace client does to access app data from their servers will lead to mashups and third party apps which use the data in ways that Google may not want to support in the future.
Al.
P.S. If you're interested in an alternative feel free to download the AndAppStore client from http://andappstore.com/AndroidPhoneApplications/apps/7661 or just visit http://andappstore.com/. I'd welcome any feedback about either the AndAppStore site or the app.
way to get apps...
There is a program you can download from the market "ASTRO" that allows you to backup things (and apps) to your SD card. Once the app is on the SD card, plug the G1 into your computer and browse (copy, paste, etc) away.
I wouldn't want to suggest that the apps could then be posted, or whatever, but...
--M
Mobile content creators who bought the developer version of the G1 to test out applications won't have access to all the apps in the Android Market, as Google has cut off access to paid apps.
The Android Dev Phone 1 is very similar to the T-Mobile G1, but it has a different design, and it's SIM-unlocked and hardware-unlocked. The $400 smartphone is aimed at developers who want an easy way to test applications on a physical device without having to sign up for a wireless service contract.
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I have a Developer phone (Free from Google as holiday bonus) and using the JF build I can see some Paid Apps. I can't see them all though....its kind of weird
Not only is the story inaccurate (its PROTECTED apps) it's been posted many times already.
The other threads have been talking about root phones, the article clearly states dev phones, not rooted. It also states paid apps (all of which are protected).
There are also protected free apps so pricing isn't the issue. All dev phones have root which is the main reason why adp's are blocked to begin with.
This has been discussed many times. Here is how it works:
1. Not all paid apps are protected. ADP firmware can only see NON-protected paid apps. This is because 'copy protection' is simply a folder that a normal user does not have permissions to enter. Thus, since all ADP1.1 phones have root, they can easily enter and copy the apps to simcard. Basically, they screwed that up pretty well, and really did not think it through all too well.
2. ADP users do not yet have an official ADP1.1 firmware update anyways, so they can not see paid apps anyways on the current image (old market)
3. Google is not blocking rooted phones (as rooted RC33 users can see all apps), they are only blocking the ADP1.1 users (IE ADP1.1 Holiday, which was meant as an update for internal google employees with the phone, not devs).
So there it is, not hard AT all. It does suck though, and if you really think about it, google is basically calling all of its employees thieves
I do think that this is probably the reason why there is no 'official' ADP1.1 dev phone images yet, even with the 1.1 SDK out. Google basically noted that their 'copy protection' is BS, and trying to fix that before the ADP1.1 official images are released, thus allowing devs access to all paid apps.
I'm rooted on RC33 and can't see all the apps :/
It's apparent some carriers are not supporting the Android Market.
For those that don't have access to the Market and want access to apps, have you tried getting SAM (app store) client for your G1 from SlideME.org?
http:/slideme.org/sam2.apk
Anyone in the world can use SAM to safely buy and download with no limitations and without entering any sensitive info such as credit card details from your phone.
The only thing is that you will not see as many apps as you would on the Market, but with users help & input one day developers will realize that stocking Android Market alone does not do any good for marketing their apps to the international communities. Not to mention that the rest of the world will be hesitant to provide even their shopping habits to google.
So, you could look for apps on SlideME or Cyrket that has all the apps on Market and contact the developer and ask them to get their act together to stock other stores such as SlideME.org for this exact reason. Not everyone has access to the Android Market!!!
Follow apps from http://twitter.com/slideme if you like.
Here is an earlier announcement from SlideME team: http://www.prweb.com/releases/android/slideme/prweb2035414.htm
I am in India. and i was missing buying the apps..but not anymore..There aren't as many apps as on the market but then its just the begining...
thank you.
do we get automatic upgrades etc from you like the market provides- i looked at using slideme but wasnt sure how you would get the free upgrades for apps u have already paid for...i am in australia.
I haven't heard promising things about SlideMe's DRM solution, which appears to constantly contact the Slideme store when normal apps downloaded from Slideme are running, and not just the SlideMe market.
It looks good, and will probably be accepting Paypal. Nice alternative!
So what are developers to do? Well, recently I bashed on the SlideLOCK in a previous post… Though - the more I looked at it, this seems like the best option for developers to protect their applications. Though, hopefully google will remedy this solution and fast. Until then though, strike-one google market.
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http://strazzere.com/blog/?p=185
The last time I used Slideme it never showed updated or new apps so I had no idea when to look. Has this since been changed?
yeah- i want to know as well if you get automatic updates for each program bought?
We do updates for any downloaded apps. Maybe you have tried an old version of SAM.
Hi!
I wrote already similar question on Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000 thread, but didn't got right answer. Got only one answer: go menu/ my apps. LOL. It shows the apps, what you have installed on your phone..
I am looking a way how to find my paid apps on Google Play market. Early days, when Google Android OS FroYo was hard stuff and market had name Android Market, there was a way find your paid apps. Not anymore. Even with this brand new Google Play market.
I am not talking now about custom ROM's and problem to find paid apps; prob.build or market enablers. No no. I can see all my apps if I just remember the name or have took a list with App Dragon or similar app collector. But if time runs on, you have change to forgot some your paid apps. Like I had bought Minecraft pocket edition when Google Market celebrated 10 000 000 0000 downloads and the price was only 10 cent. Etc.
Problem would be solved if there is a similar value than File Managers on PC have: name, modified, type, size, or it have advanced search for your paid apps. Or there is own tab for your paid apps.
Now I am looking your help. Have you met an app, what can search your paid apps or how you search them? In my case if I go with my PC browser to Google Play market, I can see first my installed apps for current AndroidOS. In this case Mackay v4.2.2 Jelly Bean custom ROM. Below I see other larger list of apps from early days and it start from first day I used my Android phone. There are all apps what I have installed and then uninstalled. Becouse the list is so huge, it can show only from letter A to E. So, if I have one hour time to browse all list, I can find some paid apps there, but if my paid app start letter F - Z, then I can see it never again. I have lost them forever, if I cannot remember the app name.
This forum is for qualifying members to release their paid applications. Please follow up on your original thread in the appropriate forum.
hello with the new way of these phones andriod and others plus spyware .im wondering how do i know what apps samsung etc are spying on my phone maybe uploading my numbers and other infor without me knowing any of you guys got any idea whats the best way to stop it. tbh i hate even google assist even turning on by itself even when i diable it
Hello, first of all, please write in easily readable sentences, that way more people are going to help you.
Second, it is important to be and stay suspicious of the software you use, especially with android. But you shouldn't be worried too much as most of the data that is sent from your phone isn't sent with "evil intentions" or anything like that, it is often rather aggressive diagnostics.
Warning! The following paragraphs are filled with very radical means of removing suspected spyware! Almost all of these require root and knowledge in modding your Android! Beware!
As to how you can spot "spyware" or suspected spyware, there isn't one easy way.
First of all, you could use a custom ROM, so that your system is more open source and there isn't any suspected spyware (or any "ware" at all) from Samsung.
To go one step further, you could try to live without Google services:
Use a different search engine, for example DuckDuckGo or any other really
Use Firefox or any non-Chromium browser
Instead of using opengapps to install Google Play Services (when you install a custom ROM) you could use the replacement project "microG" (microg.org).
Get as many apps as you can from Open source app stores (F-Droid)
Don't use the official Play Store unless you really have to - it is a power hungry data collecting app (that can theoretically install any app without asking, just like the Google Play Services or any other /system/priv-app app with proper permissions) - Alternative for installing Play Store apps: Aurora Store
Replace Google Maps with OpenStreetMap (OSMand)
Use a anonymous YouTube client, for example NewPipe
etc.
These are of course only suggestions, I don't recommend doing them all at once, but if you really don't want any unnecessary data sent from your phone, these are the first steps.
For actually seeing which apps send what data you could either analyze the app bytecode with App Warden or look at all detailed permissions with AppOpsX.
Methods to neutralize spyware are rejecting the permission for the app to use internet access or even run in the background, disabling the suspected app or removing it with system app removers.
Be very careful with actually disabling or removing system apps! Many system apps are needed for the system to work and one can easily misjudge an app by its description and diagnostics! Before disabling an app you should research whether anyone else knows anything about the app and only remove it if you are really sure about it. You have been warned.