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Hi all, I have had this bug in varying flavours with both the Wizard and now the Kaiser.
If I make a call via Bluetooth (certain devices only e.g. JVC in car stereo), after the call, all audio is lost on the device when using the speaker, e.g. no ringtones, no TomTom voice guidance. (Oddly the touchtone sounds on the phone dialler continue to work.)
Making another call via Bluetooth works fine and all audio is heard, but not if calling via the earpiece of the phone - all phone audio is still muted. A reboot is required. (Even after a reboot, sometimes all audio is muted, and 2 or 3 reboots are required.)
It is like Bluetooth is 'stealing' the audio from the phone's speaker (which is should), but not giving it back at the end, however turning off Bluetooth doesn't return it.
It happens with WM6.x on the TyTN II.
If you can fix it either via a workaround (reboot the audio service after every call?) or a direct fix (HTC are useless and have not emailed me back), I will pledge you $100 via PayPal. I am sure others will join me in pledging an amount also.
Yes. I've seen the same thing with the last stock Tilt ROM, too.
Same here. But is not happening very often.
The other issue for me is if I have A2DP enable and listening to music, then making a phone call will drop the A2DP connection and I have to reconnect A2DP again. It happens to both my JVC car unit and Sony HBH DS220.
I tried that w/ Dutty's WM6.0 and the latest 6.1 rom
I have the same issue, with bluetooth disconnects.
Just staying on-topic here (you can solve A2DP issues with A2DPToggle a great free app), has anyone found a solution to this Bluetooth loss of speaker audio issue, or a workaround to avoid it happening?
Rebooting the phone after every Bluetooth phone call is hardly what I consider a high-end smartphone to require.
Same here
What Radio's are you guys running? (Ignore my signature for the moment, been phoneless and away from here for a while and just getting back up to date )
Haz
My current radio is 1.64.08.21.
I have also tried 1.64.06.04.
Could we be closer to finding the problem? Does the Radio contain the Bluetooth stack?
Here are all available Radios:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_Radio
I'm going to try 1.58.26.20 now. I suggest others try the other 1.5x variants and report back if any of them solve the bug.
Update: I am now offering $100 to anyone who can fix this - see 1st thread.
I have used Windows Mobile since the first ever SPV phone. This one issue is making me look seriously at abandoning that loyalty and getting a Blackberry. If I can fix this for $100 I could be tempted to stay however.
Have you tried BT Audio Toggle ? (found at http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/sams...luetooth-headset.html?perpage=20&pagenumber=1)
Maybe if this helps with your problem then a mortscript could be written to automatically run the utility after a phone call.
What bluetooth headset do you have? Have you tried other headsets or just the one you have? What version of 6.1 are you using?
Thanks, I'll give the audio toggle a go. Might need some help with Mortscript though
I am using the JVC KD-BT1 car stereo with Bluetooth in-car kit. However I can also lose audio on a clean boot even when not in the car, although that is very rare. When using it with the car stereo, it happens after almost every call.
I am running Sleuth's WM6.1 but the other people in this thread are using a variety of BT devices, ROMs, and HTC models.
Can anyone help with how to create a MortScript to run BTAudioOff.exe after each phone call?
Flash a NIKI radio. I had a similar issue with my JVC in-dash CD player and I just got all the radios and tried them all. All the NIKI radios seem to work a lot of the time, while some work and others don't.
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Flash a NIKI radio. I had a similar issue with my JVC in-dash CD player and I just got all the radios and tried them all. All the NIKI radios seem to work a lot of the time, while some work and others don't.
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Thanks, I'll try that too.
Rumball said:
Have you tried BT Audio Toggle ? (found at http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/sams...luetooth-headset.html?perpage=20&pagenumber=1)
Maybe if this helps with your problem then a mortscript could be written to automatically run the utility after a phone call.
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Okay I tried this and before I even got in the car, chose to turn Bluetooth Audio off using the toggle. Since then I cannot recreate the issue! I am not having to toggle after every call, I only did it once and the problem won't come back!
Fingers crossed...
NP. 1 more thing. What do you mean all audio is lost? Do you mean that the auido goes through the bt device? Or just that there is no audio coming from either at all. If that's the case, then all you might have to do is go to Comm Manager>Settings>Bluetooth>JVC (or whatever you named it) and uncheck the Stereo sound and viola it should work unless you are not using A2DP >.> . I think it's either directing all sound to your bt device or trying to send sound to it but failing.
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NP. 1 more thing. What do you mean all audio is lost? Do you mean that the auido goes through the bt device? Or just that there is no audio coming from either at all. If that's the case, then all you might have to do is go to Comm Manager>Settings>Bluetooth>JVC (or whatever you named it) and uncheck the Stereo sound and viola it should work unless you are not using A2DP >.> . I think it's either directing all sound to your bt device or trying to send sound to it but failing.
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The issue is there is no audio coming from either the phone or the Bluetooth device. I hear the Bluetooth device disconnect, and its display shows that it has also.
I see no 'Stereo' option to untick for the JVC in its Bluetooth settings, only Hands-free and Wireless Stereo (already unticked).
No progress
Okay, this is seriously getting me down now It all sounded so promising. I have tried the following:
Flashed Niki Radio 1.58.21.23
Tried using Bluetooth Toggle - it seemed to work once when I turned BT off before connecting, but after a reboot the problem is back
Tried a HFP extension PM'd to me (thanks anyway - didn't help)
Made sure Bluetooth Stereo is unticked in the JVC's settings on the phone
I am not sure if the problem is worse when taking a call as TomTom is running.
Here is an interesting development which might help someone narrow down the cause:
I make a few calls, and as always audio is lost, even for phone calls sometimes.
Touchtones on the keypad are the only sound that the phone continues to emit itself. Everything else (TomTom, ringtones, etc.) is dead.
I then go into the JVC's A2DP mode and 'Connect'. The icon appears on the mobile's title bar, and I can hear phone audio through the car stereo.
I 'Disconnect' and the phone's audio is still lost.
What this tells us is that the phone is putting out sound, just not through the speaker.
If someone can write something that will reset the speaker driver after a call, my offer for $100 still stands.
Just to update this, the issue still exists with a clean install of HTC's new 2-May-08 WM6.1 ROM from their website. To***rs!
CJSnet,
Since we got the similar setup w/ exact the same issue (Att Tilt w/ JVC BT-1), I think the problem is basically Kaiser does not switch back to A2DP profile properly after headset profile from phone call. The same issue happens to my Sony HBH DS-220 stereo headset too.
I tried my Eten M600 w/ JVC BT-1 and does not see this problem
Ok, not sure if anyone got the same problem as mine, but here is my problem:
I have a Diamond using AZTOR v7 Rom, radio vBS14 if that matters and Sony Ericsson DS205 as my headset. I start my bluetooth on my diamond and can pair up with the DS205 without any problem. I can also listen to music without lag and sound is also crystal and solid.
When there is a call kicks in, I can answer the call by pressing a button on my DS205..... However, the problem comes when I end my call, the headset will be disconnected afterward and I have to manually press a button on the DS205 to make it reconnect. Each time when I make a call or when I receive a call the headset will be disconnected.
Luckily (or not), I found a workaround: Whenever I pair up my headset, I need to go to Setting -> Bluetooth -> and "Refresh" the services that I want to enable on the DS205 headset. That involves un-checking the services enabled (including "Wireless Stereo" and "Hands Free") and re-checking the services again. After I have done this "resetting", the disconnection problem I described above will be gone.....
Each time I restart the phone or have the bluetooh disabled on the phone, I need to go through that manual procedure again to make my headset work perfectly.
As you can imagine, that is quite annoying.......does anyone have the same problem as me?
I don't have this problem, but i have another problem, when i use the orignal rom, i can use my headset(jabra bt3030) in my diamond and it will automatically connect to use hands free and wireless stereo mode when i turn on bluetooth, so when i change to use swift 7.5 full rom, i have to resetting the bluetooth in diamond everytime when i close bluetooth
I can only get wireless stereo for my Plantronics Bluetooth Stereo headset. Any ideas why I can't get hands-free. Radio issue?
It was possible with some earlier ROM, but I can't remember which... (yes, I'm a flashing addict).
I'm having the same exact problem & it's annoying as hell. At this point, I can't get the bluetooth function on the phone to activate at all. I use the same bluetooth on another phone with no problems whatsoever, so I know it's the phone. I'm running the original rom.....not a flasher.
Have you tried Jetware?
Sorry, just installing this doesn't change anything. Still no hands-free.
Is there a specific option you want us to set?
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Have you tried Jetware?
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lit2fly said:
... Each time when I make a call or when I receive a call the headset will be disconnected.
Luckily (or not), I found a workaround: Whenever I pair up my headset, I need to go to Setting -> Bluetooth -> and "Refresh" the services that I want to enable on the DS205 headset. That involves un-checking the services enabled (including "Wireless Stereo" and "Hands Free") and re-checking the services again. After I have done this "resetting", the disconnection problem I described above will be gone.....
Each time I restart the phone or have the bluetooh disabled on the phone, I need to go through that manual procedure again to make my headset work perfectly.
As you can imagine, that is quite annoying.......does anyone have the same problem as me?
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Yes - I have a very similar problem with my jabra SP700. The Diamond 'forgets' the wireless bluetooth mode every time I disconnect the two devices (although the Stereo Bluetooth icon is still showing in the status bar).
For a short while I was having to re-pair the devices every time I got in the car - until I found the same workaround as you.
There must be a proper solution???
Hello, I had that problem in my HTC Diamond with Pioneer DEH-700bt and my jabra 3030 and she solves when changing in the registry the key to it that identifies the device in pocketpc HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/Sys the key "COD" and I introduced the value decimal 5898764 that identifies the device in smartphone
luck
juanfervs said:
Hello, I had that problem in my HTC Diamond with Pioneer DEH-700bt and my jabra 3030 and she solves when changing in the registry the key to it that identifies the device in pocketpc HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/Sys the key "COD" and I introduced the value decimal 5898764 that identifies the device in smartphone
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I have this value in COD key but I have the problem anyway.
Any solution to this annoying problem?
i use my diamond with my bluetooth handsfree kit in the car, it is classed on the phone as a headset though. the sound is ok, a bit echoey but ok. but the microphone doesnt seem to pick up my voice, i have to really shout for people to hear me, on my old Xda Orbit it worked fine. any ideas?
Hello everyone...sorry for bothering, but I'm so frustrated that I'm about to scream...I really need some help here.
I have an AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) running their standard ROM. I just bought a Motorola H780 bluetooth headset for it. The salesperson said that he knew of some people who connected this model to their Tilts and was able to listen to music through it...and even on earpiece box it says that the H780 supports both the Hands Free and Headset profiles. However, I have not been able to accomplish this: it pairs for normal use (phone calls, etc), but nothing else. The "wireless headset" option is greyed out for me; the earpiece only gives me the option to connect using "Hands Free" profile.
I have looked...and looked...and looked for how to do this. The best I found from Google was for people who have Windows Mobile 5 (I have 6)...and even so, I tried a couple of those registry tweaks. On here, I keep running into countless forums that tell you, not how to enable A2DP, but how to improve it (using modified bitpool value in the registry, etc). Can SOMEBODY PLEASE tell me how in the world to get this working? I would really appreciate it...THANKS!
Well this is how i do it. I downloaded this http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware
that is the page then you get a2dp toggle
and then when my bluetooth is on the the headset is on i then go to this program and double click it and it puts another icon by the bluetooth icon and i get sound that way for my music and also calls still come threw too. I am not saying this is the right way but it works great for me...
bluetooth toggle
bluetooth toggle turns on the headset (single ear normal everyday talking sets) like a speakerphone.
all audio will get directed to it, im, e-mail, meeting announcements.
I had a sony headset model, with 12 talk time, nice because it will eat your battery while on ( tilt and headsets rated for talktime will apply to this ) . my plantronics only does 4 hours, so at lunch or when not in use I charge it and phone via usb cable.
I am in IT and most peaple are ok with me wearing bt headset (plantronics 655) and write me off on the gadget side when I wear it 24/7. In reality I listen to music (10% volume on audiomanager) all day (literally) from my 8 gig card.
I have streaming and resco radio, and podcasts. Mostly I converted my common mp3s to wma to have more on the phone and high audio cd quality is not to be expected over bluetooth. The right rom and radio are very helpful and the ability to tun off screen but still play music are all important or battery will suffer even more. using the stock rom and radio will work, just not a good balance team.
duttys roms and a few others had it included btw. I found a way to use audiomanager 1.2 on the new roms with 1 registry setting change to allow suspend mode.
I use a very simple version of it. I attached it because, I searched a bit to find a link, (still recommended for education on the subject) but didn't find it or in the chefs and mods downloads either.
Thanks to both of you for your responses! I appreciate someone taking the time out to help.
Blinkste21957, I tried your solution and it didn't work...for some reason, it saw my headset as being "unusable" (my term) with regards to headset mode. I don't quite know why; my headset clearly says on the box that it is. (Motorola H780). This is why I think that there must be something missing on my phone that will enable the "headset" option for my earpiece.
Acehole, I tried your solution a while back...but it was with the 8525, not the tilt, and with my (previous) plantronics headset. I was less-than-impressed with the problems I had to deal with last time...but I could give it a whirl again with this phone/headset and see what happens.
If anyone knows of anything else I'm missing in terms of "activating" the headset capabilities of my phone (which I thought was supposed to have A2DP), let me know. I'm just very puzzled why, for an earpiece that supports headset mode, my phone would have that option unavailable.
Actually, I think that it is the phone and not the headset. When I had a nokia I was able to listen to music via my bluetooth with no issues. The tilt will not allow you to do this without the use of a third party application. The following is what many people have used and are using as a work around. BTAudio, BlueMusic, A2DPToggle. Tech soft makes BlueMusic and the A2DPToggle and can be found here: http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=products. Unless one of the bright developers here on XDA takes this on, I fear that it will never truly be resolved.
Thanks ACEHOLE.. I was struggling with my iMate.
Someone on here recommended the Sony DR-BT22 some time ago. I bought a pair and they link up and sound is impressive on the Tilt with Windows 6.1
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8458466&st=bluetooth&type=product&id=1184369168158
I can also control forward and reverse functions of the player with them too.
Bluetooth - especially compatibility - is still one temperamental beast! My car's built-in hand-free made me and the poor guy from AT&T a believer. They can plaster A2DP, HSF, HDP, ESP, JMDP, whatever on the box and it it means squat as to whether it will work or not. Only ones that do are manufacturer-to-manufacturer....sometimes.
Mack
If you have WM 6.1, and if you have a headset with the A2DP profile (NOTE this is not the same as the "headset" profile) then you can listen to music without any problem. If you don't have both, then you need to mess with the software add-ons mentioned earlier in this thread .
As for me, I got the excellent Jabra BT8040 and it works great with My Kaiser with stock 6.1. Only about $30 too.
Hey Guys!
Is there a way to tell WM6 to automatically route Audio through A2DP as soon as a paired device supporting the profile is connected?
Clarification:
When using a Hands-Free-Headsetfor telephony you can pair it once, then turn it off, after that it is automatically connected to the phone as soon as you turn it on again.
In contrast to that a Bluetooth Stereo headset is not automatically connected, you have to manually activate it in Bluetooth Settings first before you can listen to music through it.
Especially with my car stereo used as "A2DP Headset" (which loses power every time the ignition is turned off) this can get highly annoying.
Is there a way to tell Windows to automatically "use" A2DP-Peripherals when available?
Try A2DP Toggle: http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware
The Today-plugin migt reconnect automatically, but it has a memory-leak...
To easily manually reconnect, you can create a shortcut to the exe:
\Program Files\Teksoft\A2DPToggle\A2DP.exe
Then you can put that program on your today screen easily.
And if you want a nice icon with that shortcut, you can change the shortcut file to:
53#"\Program Files\Teksoft\A2DPToggle\A2DP.exe" "-a2dp:1"?\Program Files\Teksoft\A2DPToggle\settings.exe,-0
downloadtest82 said:
Hey Guys!
Is there a way to tell WM6 to automatically route Audio through A2DP as soon as a paired device supporting the profile is connected?
Clarification:
When using a Hands-Free-Headsetfor telephony you can pair it once, then turn it off, after that it is automatically connected to the phone as soon as you turn it on again.
In contrast to that a Bluetooth Stereo headset is not automatically connected, you have to manually activate it in Bluetooth Settings first before you can listen to music through it.
Especially with my car stereo used as "A2DP Headset" (which loses power every time the ignition is turned off) this can get highly annoying.
Is there a way to tell Windows to automatically "use" A2DP-Peripherals when available?
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Yep. The WM bluetooth stack sucks. It works better with some stereos though. I tried it out in the store with I believe a Pioneer (with bluetooth 2.0) and it was perfect. Turned it on and a2dp connects. Switch to another input and a2dp disconnects. Switch back to bluetooth audio and it connects. It was flawless. I ended up ordering the kenwood built in bluetooth unit (bluetooth v1.2) and it is terrible. I must manually toggle the bluetooth connection (I use a program that I wrote to do so, kinda similar to the above the above poster posted). Also, sometimes after a call comes in it wont reconnect. Sometimes i must power off then on the headunit a few times. Wasnt this thing supposed to make things easier?! A real shame because I love everyting else about the kenwood head unit. It works better with some ROMs on my phone (this is with a tilt; xperia on the way ).
Yeah, A2DP Toggle works for me as well, It's just dumb that this phone cant just do that itself. My old W880i could! I'm using a Sony DR-BT21G headset
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A real shame because I love everyting else about the kenwood head unit. It works better with some ROMs on my phone (this is with a tilt; xperia on the way ).
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A story to learn before you you buy the head-unit I spent almost an hour at Fry's to try many units w/ my Tilt as well (Sony, Pioneer, Kenwood, JVC ...etc) and ordered online w/ the JVC unit. Excellent sound (compare to other model) but disconnect after phone call issue exist. I believe it's HTC fault since my Eten M600 (MS BT stack) and Asus P525 (Widcomm) doesn't have this issue (but others....). But I got to admitted HTC one do have the best sound quality.
BTW, my JVC BT-1 will auto connect my X1/Tilt when I start my car and I think it serve my purpose.
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wensing said:
Try A2DP Toggle: http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=freeware
The Today-plugin migt reconnect automatically, but it has a memory-leak...
To easily manually reconnect, you can create a shortcut to the exe:
\Program Files\Teksoft\A2DPToggle\A2DP.exe
Then you can put that program on your today screen easily.
And if you want a nice icon with that shortcut, you can change the shortcut file to:
53#"\Program Files\Teksoft\A2DPToggle\A2DP.exe" "-a2dp:1"?\Program Files\Teksoft\A2DPToggle\settings.exe,-0
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I have created an application wich runs the commandline setting automaticly, so you never have to do anything again it connects automaticly. You can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502549
This is my first, and only a minor, contribution to the forum; I've been a feeder up till now.
I bought a cheap bluetooth headset for my HD2 for use with my motorcycle satnav and also my HD2 - not that I want to take calls whilst I'm riding, but playing music would be a possibility. It was similar to this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bluetooth-V2-...e_Phones_Bluetooth_Acc_ET?hash=item3efab16de4
I paired it with my satnav and could hear voice commands and music as expected. I then paired it with my HD2 and could only get calls, no music playing!!!
I tried looking for settings on the HD2 but nothing made any difference so I decided to look in the registry. After a while exploring I eventually found:
HKLM/software/widcomm/BTconfig/devices/
There were three devices paired (HD2, satnav and my car) so next I had to work out which one. I found that if you look at the nickname for each one, it's decoded into english by the Reg Editor (I use CERegistryEditor). Using trial and error I found that changing the setting "Hideconnections" from "0" to "1" did the trick. I can now hear music through the headset!!!
Well chuffed with myself!!!
PS Perform a soft reset after changing it to lock it in otherwise it resets to "0" after a disconnect.
OOPS! because I was looking for Bluetooth stuff I posted this in the wrong area, sorry!!! Maybe a moderator can correct please?
How bizarre it works by default for me......well done on the find though
Thanks...
It doesnt work for me, im using samsung mono bluetooth. I've tried many methods like btaudio bttoggle.... any help, thanks
All I can suggest is that - like I did - compare settings with something that does work. Maybe because you have a mono headset (mine is stereo) it's not capable of receiving music?
Hi
I could play music and receive system sound in my Jabra mono bluetooth earpiece if, in HD2, I go bluetooth->advance->Audio and check "play system sounds on remote hands-free device". However, after a phone call, the music and sound will be routed back to the phone speaker, though the earpiece is still connected (you can still make/receive phone calls through the earpiece).
The music and sound can only be routed to the earpiece again after a soft reset.
The other observation is that, if there is pause in between music or sound for a period of about 12 to 15 seconds, the HD2 will "suspend" the bluetooth transmission (beep in the earpiece) and resuming the music will cause the bluetooth transmission to be re-established (beep sound in earpiece). This is causing skipping of the first 1 to 2 second of the music / sound.
Have installed BTaudio V1.0. It is working on my HD2 and will keep the transmission constant and no skipping problem.
However, also needing soft reset after phone call.
Does any one has similar experience ? Is this earpiece/ head set related of is this HD2 related issue ?
No one has simialr experience ? Is there a thread on bluetooth related registry tweaks, I have been searching for it but don't seems to be able to find one. Any help will be appreciated.
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It doesnt work for me, im using samsung mono bluetooth. I've tried many methods like btaudio bttoggle.... any help, thanks
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+1 as well
I have a Samsung WEP420 mono bluetooth and no success either.
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I tried looking for settings on the HD2 but nothing made any difference so I decided to look in the registry. After a while exploring I eventually found:
HKLM/software/widcomm/BTconfig/devices/
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I don't have that reg key at all! I have a dutch hd2 running stock 1.66. When I try to connect to a parrot party bluetooth stereo box this (most of the time) doesn't work. Once or twice I established a working connection but after trying multiple times with no luck I decided to find a fix for my problem. Now I try to edit my reg with this and it's not there!?
i paired the hd2 with the car kit parrot ck3100... leaving apart that it doesn't connect always... although i have checked in settings to play all phone sounds through BT it doesn't...
i think it's a BT problem of the hd2, or maybe all WM phones... 'cause ițve had issues like this before...
P.S. once it played the music thorugh the car kit... just like this...