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can anybody come up with animations for htc touch pro running wm6.5
Why doesn't the iphone have a physical keyboard like the touch pro !!!?
because it's not an iphone. If you want cool minimizing animations get an iPhone. If you want productivity keep the TP
Edit: Above post is to the OP not you sevenalive lol. it sounds weird reading your post right before mine lol. U posted a minute b4 me .
siggty7 said:
can anybody come up with animations for htc touch pro running wm6.5
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Why can't i pay $70 a month for tethering like on the iphone when i have to pay $0 on the touch pro..... some things in life aren't fair for everything else theres Steve errr Apple - http://i.gizmodo.com/5285898/bart-tears-down-dvd-jons-apple+baiting-doubletwist-ad
the iphone's a great piece of machinery and there's no denying it, but if people want something to be like an iphone than get the real thing. i hate these iphone themes and wannabe applications, so i say skip the damn aspirations to be iphone-like, or to be as cool and unique as the other millions and millions of iphone users
xda fits more for hardcore users, not sheep
Why do you all keep putting down the iphone and flaming about it when that wasn't the question? I'm also someone who likes the animations that phones like the iPhone and Palm Pre have and would love to get them on wm6.5. If the iphone had a keyboard and was on verizon, i would've went straight for it. We already know that the iphone doesn't have a keyboard and costs $75 a month so what's the point of writing that? No one's asking to turn their htc into an iphone or even copy the interface, it's just a simple question. If you don't know the answer, don't waste everyon'e time by ranting about the iphone's faults. I'd settle for just animations whether they look like the iphone/palm pre or not. It makes rotating the phone or going back to the home screen look much smoother.
Anyway, i have a question that ACTUALLY pertains to this topic. Is there a way to get the accelerometer effects like the omnia/iphone/palm pre or like Opera 9.7 when the device is turned? I like how the page kind of flips when it's rotating.
I feel for you :] I like some animations like that as well.
Granted, I'm an avid iPhone basher also, but I do like 2 things about it, and one is the animations and visual effects.
...the other is the capacitive touch screen. But, hey, they can't use their phone with a glove on. ;]
thank u! u understand what am saying i love my htc but **** come with some cool animations that all am saying!!
Wouldn't it be possible to design a Flash based menu system?
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http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/1...comes-freestyl-windows-mobile-program-launch/
some iphone interfaces do have animations
and if you want the palm pre interface for opening apps that are up you can combine butler with taskfacade. both which were out before web os was announced
butler turns your capacitive area into an app launcher
and taskfacade can be mapped to one of the areas and it will animate zooming out of the app and show all that are open. pretty snazzy
jaszek said:
because it's not an iphone. If you want cool minimizing animations get an iPhone. If you want productivity keep the TP
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Do you also believe that if you want to edit video and photos, you need to get a Mac....If you're going to set up a file server, set up a linux box....and if you're going to type up a report for your boss, you need to have windows? I'm pretty sure all three OS's can accomplish each of those tasks, even if one may have a slight edge on another (even if only by stereotype). If everybody thought like that, there wouldn't even be standard Desktop Linux users.
The notion of having some animation on the screen shouldn't be limited to a few specific handsets. We have the technology, we just have to make it work the way we want.
bravo261 said:
the iphone's a great piece of machinery and there's no denying it, but if people want something to be like an iphone than get the real thing. i hate these iphone themes and wannabe applications, so i say skip the damn aspirations to be iphone-like, or to be as cool and unique as the other millions and millions of iphone users
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I agree to an extent, I think those mock iPhone apps are useless, but that's because I think the iPhone interface is useless. I prefer to think those apps exist for another reason...to show iPhone users that there's nothing special or cool about their phone. I like being able to say, "I can do everything your phone can, but can your phone do this?" At that point, I can show off the other home screens, interfaces, and tools that they can never aspire towards because of the mountains of limits put on their phones.
The home screen on the iPhone sucks, we all know this...but it's made cool to the millions because of a few simple animations. The complainers on this thread are ignoring how much more appeal can be gained with such small improvements. Just think about the incredibly simple animations they use, and how easy some of them would be to duplicate (or improve upon).
Alright, I've probably said too much...I'll go sit down and shut up...
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Do you also believe that if you want to edit video and photos, you need to get a Mac....If you're going to set up a file server, set up a linux box....and if you're going to type up a report for your boss, you need to have windows? I'm pretty sure all three OS's can accomplish each of those tasks, even if one may have a slight edge on another (even if only by stereotype). If everybody thought like that, there wouldn't even be standard Desktop Linux users.
The notion of having some animation on the screen shouldn't be limited to a few specific handsets. We have the technology, we just have to make it work the way we want.
I agree to an extent, I think those mock iPhone apps are useless, but that's because I think the iPhone interface is useless. I prefer to think those apps exist for another reason...to show iPhone users that there's nothing special or cool about their phone. I like being able to say, "I can do everything your phone can, but can your phone do this?" At that point, I can show off the other home screens, interfaces, and tools that they can never aspire towards because of the mountains of limits put on their phones.
The home screen on the iPhone sucks, we all know this...but it's made cool to the millions because of a few simple animations. The complainers on this thread are ignoring how much more appeal can be gained with such small improvements. Just think about the incredibly simple animations they use, and how easy some of them would be to duplicate (or improve upon).
Alright, I've probably said too much...I'll go sit down and shut up...
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very well said. i feel the same way and think that the touch pro definately has the specs to be able to do simple animations like fading in and out of applications. im kind of glad the iphone's home screen is just a boring app launcher. Now if it was able to run plug ins like tf3d and spb mobile shell, windows mobile may be in trouble
why is the iphone mentioned here? the iphone has over (IDK) generations and they all look alike nothing different and just plain boring, i mean it has one main button and the apps are just lined up! "TALK ABOUT A BORING UI"
If you really want animations, you sadly need to look for 3rd party software. Who knows maybe it'll be built into WinMo 7 but for the time being, cool "Iphone-esque" animations can be acquired by using SPB mobile shell. It doesn't necissarily have the same sliding animations, but it does give you a carosel(sp) and shifting block menu animations. Sorry I can't post screen shots, I just recently removed it cuz I couldn't get the weather to work right LOL. But aside from that... You can take one or the other and at the risk of sounding overly cliched, you can't have your cake and eat it....
On a side note... We were having Palm Pre training, and my trainer was bashing the Iphone left n right. It was actually pretty funny. He referred to it as "nothing more than a glorified paperweight for the A.D.D. generation incapable of performing any task without the use of an application". I felt pretty stupid tho cuz half of the applications he was talking about I have on my Touch Pro. Hehehe....
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If you really want animations, you sadly need to look for 3rd party software. Who knows maybe it'll be built into WinMo 7 but for the time being, cool "Iphone-esque" animations can be acquired by using SPB mobile shell. It doesn't necissarily have the same sliding animations, but it does give you a carosel(sp) and shifting block menu animations. Sorry I can't post screen shots, I just recently removed it cuz I couldn't get the weather to work right LOL. But aside from that... You can take one or the other and at the risk of sounding overly cliched, you can't have your cake and eat it....
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I've used SPB for some time now on my Loox and I enjoy it very much. The new 3.0 is a great piece of work but like you mentioned it is still buggy.... The thing that gets me are the graphics! Why don't they develop skins for the shell??? You, I, he, they all have different likes and dislikes and ideas on how our systems should look and feel. If SPB would design a more user friendly version of the Shell it would definitely end up on everybodys mobile.
siggty7 said:
can anybody come up with animations for htc touch pro running wm6.5
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why on earth would I want something like that? so I can slow down my ppc? so I can be kewl n l33t like the iphone people? if I wanted all that crap, I woulda got an iphone like my wife. I wanted something a little more tweakable and something I could play with.. not a shiny thing for status.
I am a musician and have been looking for a decent music app for winmo for a long time now, there just isnt any really and no hardware to go with them. The iphone is years ahead of winmo in this area but then winmo if more business orientated. I am still with winmo at the moment and I have a touch HD, hower is some release one of these everything would change in hours....
The iphone would slot in and form the synth engine which could be controller by the keyboard.
http://www.phonature.com:8092/home/products_pdaApp_ppc_HandDeeEO.htm
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Audio/Musical-Keyboard-Tutor-15209.shtml
more google hits
http://www.google.dk/search?source=...gning&meta=lr=&aq=f&oq=pocketpc+music+keyboar
pro musician
I am aware of these but any pro musician wouldnt touch winmo with a barge pole as there is nothing serious being developed. Plus no multi-touch..!
winmo currently don't support mtouch
and the screens used dont have the hardware support
andriod seem to have it both software and hardware
not 100% sure I get what you are asking really
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I am not looking for answers to anything, I am just speculating on the position of iphone Vs winmo for musicans.
stoolzo said:
I am not looking for answers to anything, I am just speculating on the position of iphone Vs winmo for musicans.
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i wouldnt do that 'round these parts if i was you.
stoolzo said:
I am not looking for answers to anything, I am just speculating on the position of iphone Vs winmo for musicans.
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"implying that real music can be done on a phone"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...............
stoolzo said:
The iphone is years ahead of winmo in this area
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stoolzo said:
I am just speculating
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Exactly. That's your personal preference.
Before I forget...
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iphone
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I'll have to take a gander and hit back but i know there was a good bit of software for winmo that i used to play with, mind you not gonna match up to a PC running Cubase/Soundforge etc etc or even an Atari running midi equipment but it makes noise lol
Will update.
Update PhoenixStudio
I have had my LG quantum for about two months now and couldn't be happier. I had an iPhone 4 and had gotten in a car accident and every call I mad to my insurance..... Disconnected I had to use someone BlackBerry who was also on att in order to get the proper assitence. So I sold my iPhone and got a Samsung galaxy s device.... It go so boring switching roms and the atrocious line up of apps in the app store got extremely annoying I couldn't any apps that were even near iPhone quality with being an app that I already owned on the iPhone and being that angry birds was their best game.... Waist of my time and by the way the phone I had was the Samsung captivate.
so windows phone 7 came out and I was like why not. I've tried everything else and was barley satisfied so I got the LG Quantum and boy am I pleased. Yea no copy and paste but the OS is amazingly smooth unlike my captivate and the games are what I look for fun and graphically acceptable. Not stupid jokes I wish the twitter app was better but the xbl integration is a work of art. I think I purchased like 12 games and for the most part I am happy.the OS will continue to develop and improve just like everything else. I remember in 08 when I had my g1 or was it 09.... Anyway I read in an article that the os would die because not enough devices or devs.... Well look at Android now. WP 7 is similar just needs a little support and it will blow up because its an amazing os and I'm using my quantum right now to right this. Smooth and quick. So yea I didn.t know where to write this so I did it here thanks for letting me vent
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I have had my LG quantum for about two months now and couldn't be happier. I had an iPhone 4 and had gotten in a car accident and every call I mad to my insurance..... Disconnected I had to use someone BlackBerry who was also on att in order to get the proper assitence. So I sold my iPhone and got a Samsung galaxy s device.... It go so boring switching roms and the atrocious line up of apps in the app store got extremely annoying I couldn't any apps that were even near iPhone quality with being an app that I already owned on the iPhone and being that angry birds was their best game.... Waist of my time and by the way the phone I had was the Samsung captivate.
so windows phone 7 came out and I was like why not. I've tried everything else and was barley satisfied so I got the LG Quantum and boy am I pleased. Yea no copy and paste but the OS is amazingly smooth unlike my captivate and the games are what I look for fun and graphically acceptable. Not stupid jokes I wish the twitter app was better but the xbl integration is a work of art. I think I purchased like 12 games and for the most part I am happy.the OS will continue to develop and improve just like everything else. I remember in 08 when I had my g1 or was it 09.... Anyway I read in an article that the os would die because not enough devices or devs.... Well look at Android now. WP 7 is similar just needs a little support and it will blow up because its an amazing os and I'm using my quantum right now to right this. Smooth and quick. So yea I didn.t know where to write this so I did it here thanks for letting me vent
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Did Microsoft send you!?
I know you're a rat..
jk
this the first time some one who likes wp7
frankiedizzle87 said:
..... the OS will continue to develop and improve just like everything else. I remember in 08 when I had my g1 or was it 09.... Anyway I read in an article that the os would die because not enough devices or devs.... Well look at Android now. WP 7 is similar just needs a little support and it will blow up because its an amazing os and I'm using my quantum right now to right this.
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to me it sounds like ur 1 phone os far from realising theres nothing that would satisfy ur bi**y attitude and the problem is in you , so ur just trying to hold on a lame os which isnt good even by your own judgement(notice the "will"-s , a sign of wishful thinking) your hoping it gets magically perfect a day which isnt gonna happen , and ull utimately be faced by your sad self with your unreasonable standards
No no no u missed the point of my post. Do u own a WP 7? Being that I owned all three phones I can state I like the feel and potential of this OS no Microsoft didn't send me just tired of writers hating on the os but fact of the matter is that its a brand new os let it grow. I read its a dead OS today... How cause its in competition.. Well when Android came out it had to compete with IOS and windows mobile. It did fine so will this u tell me what's wrong with the os
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No no no u missed the point of my post. Do u own a WP 7? Being that I owned all three phones I can state I like the feel and potential of this OS no Microsoft didn't send me just tired of writers hating on the os but fact of the matter is that its a brand new os let it grow. I read its a dead OS today... How cause its in competition.. Well when Android came out it had to compete with IOS and windows mobile. It did fine so will this u tell me what's wrong with the os
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dont pay attention to them, they are just fandroids
A probably so. It felt right to give respect to a fun nice and cool OS like my home screen is so animated
husam666 said:
Did Microsoft send you!?
I know you're a rat..
jk
this the first time some one who likes wp7
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souljaboy said:
to me it sounds like ur 1 phone os far from realising theres nothing that would satisfy ur bi**y attitude and the problem is in you , so ur just trying to hold on a lame os which isnt good even by your own judgement(notice the "will"-s , a sign of wishful thinking) your hoping it gets magically perfect a day which isnt gonna happen , and ull utimately be faced by your sad self with your unreasonable standards
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go figure, someone posts something positive about wp7, and the android fanbois come running. I think they search the forum with terms like wp7 and focus.
I love my hd7, facebook integration means I actually check on my friends and family and seismic is a great twitter app. Sounds like IE is getting its own update very soon separate from wp7 updates (according to one of the MS engineers, he said to look for it in between the update coming and mango), and after mango, what will be missing? The only stuff I find annoying is that 3rd party apps can't run in the background yet, so opening links in twitter apps, takes you out of the app and sometimes you lose your place in the timeline.
The multimedia experience on this device has been so much better than winmo or android.
frankiedizzle87 said:
I have had my LG quantum for about two months now and couldn't be happier. I had an iPhone 4 and had gotten in a car accident and every call I mad to my insurance..... Disconnected I had to use someone BlackBerry who was also on att in order to get the proper assitence. So I sold my iPhone and got a Samsung galaxy s device.... It go so boring switching roms and the atrocious line up of apps in the app store got extremely annoying I couldn't any apps that were even near iPhone quality with being an app that I already owned on the iPhone and being that angry birds was their best game.... Waist of my time and by the way the phone I had was the Samsung captivate.
so windows phone 7 came out and I was like why not. I've tried everything else and was barley satisfied so I got the LG Quantum and boy am I pleased. Yea no copy and paste but the OS is amazingly smooth unlike my captivate and the games are what I look for fun and graphically acceptable. Not stupid jokes I wish the twitter app was better but the xbl integration is a work of art. I think I purchased like 12 games and for the most part I am happy.the OS will continue to develop and improve just like everything else. I remember in 08 when I had my g1 or was it 09.... Anyway I read in an article that the os would die because not enough devices or devs.... Well look at Android now. WP 7 is similar just needs a little support and it will blow up because its an amazing os and I'm using my quantum right now to right this. Smooth and quick. So yea I didn.t know where to write this so I did it here thanks for letting me vent
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Wp7's UI is different, but I don't think it's beautiful. Besides, Wp7 has been out for a short time, so it has many shortcomings
I have tested it on my Leo for a couple of days and despite it´s nice I decided to go back to WM/Non NAND Android combo which is the best for me.
If you want to read my personal review here it is.
nrfitchett4 said:
go figure, someone posts something positive about wp7, and the android fanbois come running. I think they search the forum with terms like wp7 and focus.
I love my hd7, facebook integration means I actually check on my friends and family
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Its called getting your own life. Besides most smartphones can check facebook OHHH wow!!!
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and seismic is a great twitter app.
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No twitter app is great, unless you are one of the marketers milking the sad twitter addicts. OMG GREG IS TAKING A DUMP !!!!! RIGHT NOW !!!1!!11 OMG! Besides Most other smartphones have twitter apps.
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Sounds like IE is getting its own update very soon separate from wp7 updates (according to one of the MS engineers, he said to look for it in between the update coming and mango), and after mango, what will be missing? The only stuff I find annoying is that 3rd party apps can't run in the background yet, so opening links in twitter apps, takes you out of the app and sometimes you lose your place in the timeline.
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Wow. That means ABSOLUTELY nothing. Keep on rambling tho. you might actually say something legitimate and interesting about wp7.
nrfitchett4 said:
The multimedia experience on this device has been so much better than winmo or android.
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Nope not yet, but you will get there. Sounds like you should have spent your money on a real smart phone. Not a wanabe iphone.
How dare you call me a fandroid
well, i guess i'm a ''fandroid'' (wtf? is that supposed to be an insult?) but i have no problem with wp7.
hungry81 said:
Its called getting your own life. Besides most smartphones can check facebook OHHH wow!!!
No twitter app is great, unless you are one of the marketers milking the sad twitter addicts. OMG GREG IS TAKING A DUMP !!!!! RIGHT NOW !!!1!!11 OMG! Besides Most other smartphones have twitter apps.
Wow. That means ABSOLUTELY nothing. Keep on rambling tho. you might actually say something legitimate and interesting about wp7.
Nope not yet, but you will get there. Sounds like you should have spent your money on a real smart phone. Not a wanabe iphone.
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C'mon man how is it an iPhone wanna be? U sound stupid so any smartphone that takes a simplistic user friendly approach is a smartphone wanna be? Ur an idiot
I am a neutral person.
So before anyone shoots childish insults at me, I don't give a damn about them
In my honest opinion I have had and handled all three of the mobile OS and I believe each has their advantages and disadvantages, as all things in life nothing is perfect.
iOS: Alittle too closed off for my tastes. I enjoy a few of the apps on there but for everyone who says that the Android market has stupid apps...guess what??? SO DOES APPLE! I have seen soo many stupid ass repetitive zombie apps on there I was sick. On top of that it doesn't allow SD support, which is also a personal problem, I don't like that you have to rely on Apple's App store to download and control your apps. Aside from that it is a nice OS if you jailbreak it and mod it yourself.
Windows Mobile: Well, this was my first mobile OS honestly. I enjoyed the ROM support on it but when it came to the app department you needed to have a freaking treasure hunt just to find a decent game haha You could also have a decent amount of customization because you can change the registry and such and whatnot, but it was a lot easier to screw up and have problems with the OS.
Android: I have been using this OS ever since I got my HD2 haha I agree with the retarded apps in the market but it's easy to pick out the good ones from the retarded ones, in my opinion. When it comes to apps as well you can easily download and install an .apk from online or store it on your sd card instead of having to rely on the market to dominate your every move. I also think Android is the best one for customization, with iOS you can't even change your keyboard, you always get the same dull crap, wm is a little better but you can't really adjust your home without adding more programs on top of programs, using more memory than you really should just for one thing. Plus...flash, enough said.
Windows Phone 7: I have seen, touched, played with and borrowed a WP7, I do not like it. I didn't have it in my possession for an entirely large amount of time so I can't say much about it. Yes the WP7 is new and developing still but so was Android, and honestly even when Android matured what happened to it overall? Speed? A little bit of change in the look of it? I do not see too much noticeable change coming from it in the long run, just a few tweaks here or there. Some people call them Iphone wannabes...so do I. I believe that Jobs and Gates wanted to compete to see whose phone can be the most restrictive and simplistic. And again with iPhone as well, with simplicity comes beauty, yes it looks nice, but you can't really do sh*t to it besides adding live tiles...which isn't all that impressive. I believe that the WP7 is basically a Microsoft version of iOS. PLUS! You can't even put a freaking SD card into the phone without taking it apart and having it formatted to your device and losing all of your data on there.
Hate it or love it that is my opinion on these different OSs.
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How dare you call me a fandroid
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Guys, he has a WM Touch Pro 2...how the HELL can he be a fandroid??
THread was fun thanks for coming
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Windows 7 is a big hit.
Windows 7 Mobile is a big flop.
I'm going back to my brick nokia and playing original snake fucj everything else
Swyped from my HTC HD2 using tapatalk
but but....
whats wrong with windows phone 7?
i mean... its a pleasently fast and fine OS
you can almost do all sorts of things just like all other smartphones
except that it has 'less apps on the marketplace or whatever you call it
well... at least it doesnt have those useless apps where you basically "drink" beer/air or "shave" nothing or idk what you name it... yet
but lets say... why not give this new fella os some room for growth instead of hating it from the very first day? fan boys jks
cheers and have a nice day
Coming from a WM6 / 6.5 background - at first I found WM7 frustrating. (I've only had the phone a few days).
Initially the whole idea of having ALL contacts in one place completely freaked me out. Then I realised the O/S is sensible enough to only offer phone contacts when messaging / calling. Luckily most of my FB 'friends' haven't added phone contact details - but when they do, I'll be back to being slightly screwed on that front. Having de-duped and linked accounts, things don't seem so bad ... but I still think having overall groupings for contacts would help me in the long run. (I haven't seen what's due in any updates, so it's something that may be coming).
Asides from the Zune-like interface, the one thing that is frustrating me most is the lack of RDP software. I used that a lot on my XDA zest.
Oh, and not supporting custom ring-tones out of the box is annoying too. Like with any MS O/S, you just have to get used to it....
So far though I'm thinking it's working faster / better for me than 6.5 was with few issues, so I'm fairly happy about it.
OMG!! The first ever Best Looking Phone by Nokia is this N9
seriously WOW what a design.
this will really Kick ass of iphone.
want to see more click here
http://swipe.nokia.com/
For demo video click here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfE3B6L-Otw
Clich here for WP7 Nokia Phone Full Video please open this site using Google translate
http://www.technet.hu/telefon/20110624/exkluziv_video_elop_bemutatja_az_elso_windowsos_nokiat/
it looks like a giant ipod nano
m1l4droid said:
What the hell is MeeGo? Does it even have any apps? Unless Android can be installed on it, its worthless.
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Never heard of Meego? And you're calling yourself a geek/nerd. GTFO!
i think LG Meego handset will come first before this Nokia N9.
But seriously i m amazed by this Design, first time By Nokia.
As we all know How much hype created during N8 this seems far more better than N8
this will decrease Nokia's Falling reputation.
Best of Luck Nokia.
This is getting Pre installed Angrybird, Wifi hotspot, USB on the go, 3.9 inch AMOLED screen
16 gb/ 64 gb version , but why Micro sim support
Full Specification here
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9-3398.php
Meego is an Open Source Project and some developer has already
ported Meego on Nexus One and other devices with snapdragon processor similar to Nexus one .
Its a dead horse, but nokia tries to ride it...
I have to admit that it looks pretty good, too bad it comes out so late.
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Of course I've heard of meego! But I don't think it has any chance against Android and others... Nokia should have just used android on it's smartphones.
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Agree, but Android won't happen. WP7 on the other hand would be better than MeeGo - much better.
m1l4droid said:
Yeah, WP7 is good. I might even buy a Nokia WP7 when it comes out, just for the lolz...
The problem with Nokia is that it's too stubborn and old fashioned. Good they signed a contract with Microsoft though, at least they have one REAL OS on their smartphones.
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The "REAL OS" part made my day.
TBH, it's a breath of fresh air. Kinda love the pentaband 3G radio in the phone.
For the apps. Now where's that alien Dalvik thing.
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Methinks that I might consider it if it comes in silver, and Android. It's MeeGo, how hard would it be to flash a new ROM?
I guess it'll be pretty easy. But time will tell!
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What the hell is MeeGo? Does it even have any apps? Unless Android can be installed on it, its worthless.
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I completely agree. That was my first thought when watching this video. If it doesn't have an ample amount of apps available to users, it'll go no where even if it is a fantastic phone.
MeeGo doesn't really matter. When the phone comes out, the main question will be "When will somebody put CyanogenMod 7 on it?" Notice I didn't use "how" or even "why". It's a when. And WHEN that floodgate opens... we just might have a bonafide camera phone.
SR4 said:
I completely agree. That was my first thought when watching this video. If it doesn't have an ample amount of apps available to users, it'll go no where even if it is a fantastic phone.
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For apps i think here is the preparation...
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/39841/nokia-n9-might-run-android-apps.html
I had a Nokia N900 for a while. Good phone, really good developer community. It's just a shame that they've stuck so firmly to their own OSs for so long. If they're going to go WP7 that's a step in the right direction but android would win them a lot of good favour.
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SR4 said:
I completely agree. That was my first thought when watching this video. If it doesn't have an ample amount of apps available to users, it'll go no where even if it is a fantastic phone.
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IMO it's much easier to write apps for MeeGo than Android. MeeGo uses the cross-platform (read: porting of desktop KDE apps to the mobile has already started) Qt Framework, which has a really nice API (Qt Mobility espacially for smartphones). It's really a joy to use this toolkit. All your developed applications can run on your desktop OS (Linux, Windows, Mac OS) and on your phones and tablets (Android, MeeGo, iOS port is currently developed..).
I'd love to see a port of this OS to some (more) Android phones. I tried to run it under my Desire HD, but I can't get the software rendering to work.
now i think i got the reason to purchase this phone
http://www.gsmarena.com/alien_dalvik_will_let_you_run_android_apps_on_the_nokia_n9-news-2813.php
nos in veins said:
now i think i got the reason to purchase this phone
http://www.gsmarena.com/alien_dalvik_will_let_you_run_android_apps_on_the_nokia_n9-news-2813.php
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Hehe, i love cross-platform frameworks. It's also possible to run application which were developed for MeeGo/Symbian under Android.
intresting UI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSZssHGR-Qg&feature=related
Nice, torn between this phone and the Nexus 3 now.
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hey i noticed how ios has amazing hacks once you jailbreak it. things that you didnt even know would be possible with the device. are there hacks like this with android? i love my droid and wanna see everything it can do. post your top hacks to help me out :]
Search the word "root" or go to the android development area of the D3 forum and your mind will be blown..
i have steeldroid 3.0 its great. i mean things lik cydia for the iphone, where its a market that just features thousands of user developed mods
Ha! Oh yes my friend. We have "root" our jailbreaking term, and much more. We have more stock that we can do that you cannot do on a jailbroken iPhone. But yes, to theme it and have super user access you need to root.
Definitely look into rooting. just know that 1) it voids your warranty if something gets messed up(but same with jailbreak of iphone anways so who cares) 2) RESEARCH before your start messing with things and read up on things because i can tell u from firsthand experience, your going to brick your phone if you do not put some solid time into research. i bricked my phone because i just wanted my phone to look cool and i didnt care about the effects it would have. I flashed a "non flashable" zip on my phone and that was the end of that haha. I am by no means a pro. I only recently got into the rooting of the phones this past year and a half or so. But XDA is a great way to learn what you dont know already. I learned almost everything on this website. The people here are extremely knowledged(a lot more than me lol) and someone will always be there to answer questions you have. Once you root.. a whole new lifestyle emerges
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jailbreaking is nothing compared to root acess
acess to system files basically able to modify anything you want. ios has "live wallpapers" once you jailbreak not! more like looped mp4s. android is open source has widgets flash. ios doesnt compare.
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Benjamin150 said:
Ha! Oh yes my friend. We have "root" our jailbreaking term, and much more. We have more stock that we can do that you cannot do on a jailbroken iPhone. But yes, to theme it and have super user access you need to root.
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wut he said ^^ XD
Im guessing you guys missed it but i have rooted already. i have SteelDroid3. its great but i meant things like running different OS's, emulators, and the simple tweaks like modding the actualy system, to like make the camera focus faster. stuff like that. and cydia ofcourse. i heard there were emulators just dont know where to get stuff liket aht though :/ You are definitely rigth about it having more access without even rooting though, droid kills iphone. I just miss all the customizations of ipod
Dri94 said:
Im guessing you guys missed it but i have rooted already. i have SteelDroid3. its great but i meant things like running different OS's, emulators, and the simple tweaks like modding the actualy system, to like make the camera focus faster. stuff like that. and cydia ofcourse. i heard there were emulators just dont know where to get stuff liket aht though :/ You are definitely rigth about it having more access without even rooting though, droid kills iphone. I just miss all the customizations of ipod
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You can find most emulators on the market or online. I have a nintendo64, gameboy color, and gameboy advance emulator I found on the market.
We also just found out about the camera app rom the Atrix. If we replace our camera app with that one, everything about the camera speeds up.
Its also all about looking in the right place for stuff. Instead of having Cydia, we have XDA.
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Here's you answer. Flashing ROMs and Rooting is like jailbreaking. I see no purpose for rooting unless you want to flash a custom ROM.
Rooting also allows you to use apps that need to be rooted, like Titanium backup and one of those screen shot apps.
As for hacking after rooting? I have no idea. Just install personalization and productivity apps.
Many apps that would be in Cydia are already in Google's Market since it is not as restrictive as Apple's. You can find console emulators there. For phone specific tweaks and programs this forum is a good place to check. Its harder to find hardware tweak programs since there are so many Android phones and only one iPhone. But for software there is a lot out there, custom stuff and beta apks if you want to try them.
I really don't think there is much you can do with iOS
I mean yeah there's some customizing
but I've never seen a fully customized ipod or iphone
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Many apps that would be in Cydia are already in Google's Market since it is not as restrictive as Apple's. You can find console emulators there. For phone specific tweaks and programs this forum is a good place to check. Its harder to find hardware tweak programs since there are so many Android phones and only one iPhone. But for software there is a lot out there, custom stuff and beta apks if you want to try them.
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i forgot about that. that makes since of why a cydia like app wouldnt work. well it would but it would take some work. But thanks that cleared most of the stuff up for me. Im going to look up the emulators and see if there are any tweaks on here :]
Jerminator617 said:
I really don't think there is much you can do with iOS
I mean yeah there's some customizing
but I've never seen a fully customized ipod or iphone
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youtube. most people dont know everything the iphone can do but their customizations are crazy in numbers compared to android.
Dri94 said:
i forgot about that. that makes since of why a cydia like app wouldnt work. well it would but it would take some work. But thanks that cleared most of the stuff up for me. Im going to look up the emulators and see if there are any tweaks on here :]
youtube. most people dont know everything the iphone can do but their customizations are crazy in numbers compared to android.
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I don't think so. I think there are many customizations on the hacked iPhone because it's restricted some features in the first place.
I think to you Android doesn't have any customizations because there are so many customizations in the first place without the need for rooting that you're convinced that rooting it doesn't do much at all (besides custom Roms).
Call it an illusion?
Otherwise show us some things the jailbroken iPhone can do that a non-rooted Android device can not.
Jerminator617 said:
I really don't think there is much you can do with iOS
I mean yeah there's some customizing
but I've never seen a fully customized ipod or iphone
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poetryrocksalot said:
I don't think so. I think there are many customizations on the hacked iPhone because it's restricted some features in the first place.
I think to you Android doesn't have any customizations because there are so many customizations in the first place without the need for rooting that you're convinced that rooting it doesn't do much at all (besides custom Roms).
Call it an illusion?
Otherwise show us some things the jailbroken iPhone can do that a non-rooted Android device can not.
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YOutube this stuff:
graviboard
barrelroll 3d [the ability it has to switch animations without having to flash]
cydia elite pro theme [compare that to a normal iphone theme. they can change their signal bars to be wateva symbol or picture, color of their time, how many icons on the screen, everything, without having to flash their device]
thats just a couple. im not saying iphone better but it has better customizations.
Dri94 said:
YOutube this stuff:
graviboard
barrelroll 3d [the ability it has to switch animations without having to flash]
cydia elite pro theme [compare that to a normal iphone theme. they can change their signal bars to be wateva symbol or picture, color of their time, how many icons on the screen, everything, without having to flash their device]
thats just a couple. im not saying iphone better but it has better customizations.
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Barrel 3D (do you mean Barrelroll 3D or Barrel 3D?)
Try LauncherPro by Federico and change the transition effect to whatever you like.
Graviboard
Here are some similar stuff: "Shake Them All!" by YOUGLI and "Seeds of Life" Live by We Like CAPS!
Cydia Elite Pro
The hard way: flash a custom ROM or design your own ROM
The incomplete way: download a custom launcher like LauncherPro, or some apps that appear in the notification tray like Quick Settings.
The best way: create demand for it, start asking for it, petition for something like Cydia Elite Pro.
BTW, with LauncherPro you can: change scroll animation, set number of columns/rolls/icons, change your dock at the bottom, hide notification bar on top. And LauncherPro is only one of many launchers.
Furthermore, believe me when I say it's possible. There used to be an app for Windows Mobile to modify the icons and appearance of the notification tray on top of the screen. I think that if Windows Mobile can do it, then Android can do it. So what can you do? Talk to the person who developed the Windows Mobile app and tell him to join Android development. As for the name of the app and the developer; I don't remember who made it or what it's called but I am not lying to you.
What you've asked for are 100% possible on Android. What you need is patience and to be able to ask for it.
Sorry Dri94 but why don't you just use your Droid 3 for a couple of weeks and test and try everything instead of comparing everything with the i*hone. When I switched from Symbian to WinMo 6 I did the same.
If you're worried about having to "flash the device" to get custom features then Android is too advanced for you, get an iPhone. All those Cydia tweaks do is change little pieces of Apple's crappy ass launcher. Flashing a ROM gives us an entirely customized and optimized version of Android. There's hundreds of system wide themes you can apply with Theme Chooser, which is built into CyanogenMod.
poetryrocksalot said:
Barrel 3D (do you mean Barrelroll 3D or Barrel 3D?)
Try LauncherPro by Federico and change the transition effect to whatever you like.
Graviboard
Here are some similar stuff: "Shake Them All!" by YOUGLI and "Seeds of Life" Live by We Like CAPS!
Cydia Elite Pro
The hard way: flash a custom ROM or design your own ROM
The incomplete way: download a custom launcher like LauncherPro, or some apps that appear in the notification tray like Quick Settings.
The best way: create demand for it, start asking for it, petition for something like Cydia Elite Pro.
BTW, with LauncherPro you can: change scroll animation, set number of columns/rolls/icons, change your dock at the bottom, hide notification bar on top. And LauncherPro is only one of many launchers.
Furthermore, believe me when I say it's possible. There used to be an app for Windows Mobile to modify the icons and appearance of the notification tray on top of the screen. I think that if Windows Mobile can do it, then Android can do it. So what can you do? Talk to the person who developed the Windows Mobile app and tell him to join Android development. As for the name of the app and the developer; I don't remember who made it or what it's called but I am not lying to you.
What you've asked for are 100% possible on Android. What you need is patience and to be able to ask for it.
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THanks you helped alot ! this is what i was looking for. Well im a photo editor and a java programmer, ill see if i can start my own work on creating in depth themes like that, and ask people here in the community for help. People here seem to be geniuses at coding. its really cool to see!!!
Androidsims said:
If you're worried about having to "flash the device" to get custom features then Android is too advanced for you, get an iPhone. All those Cydia tweaks do is change little pieces of Apple's crappy ass launcher. Flashing a ROM gives us an entirely customized and optimized version of Android. There's hundreds of system wide themes you can apply with Theme Chooser, which is built into CyanogenMod.
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If you read, instead of being douchey to the iphone, you woudl see i already flashed my device, its not too advanced for me. I keep getting talked to dumb because i use the word iphone, its not forbidden and its a good device. Android is better but its dumb to say iphone isnt good at all, and to treat me like im dumb because i like both devices... its just an inconvience if im walking around and need to flash my device just to get different things. i often try 20 different things before i choose one. CyanogenMod is still in alpha btw. when it comes out then i will definitely use it tho. it looks awesome
Dri94 said:
THanks you helped alot ! this is what i was looking for. Well im a photo editor and a java programmer, ill see if i can start my own work on creating in depth themes like that, and ask people here in the community for help. People here seem to be geniuses at coding. its really cool to see!!!
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Also, I tried to remember the name of the apps that I used to tweak the notification tray, but I just can't find it (not even searching by history on XDA). If I remember the app, I'll tell you and I suggest you contact those developers. Based on my experiences as a consumer, some developers do listen.
I have both iPhone and Note 3
lifehacker (dot) com/5916593/ forget-android-the-iphone-is-a-better-phone-for-hacking-tweaking-and-customization
This link sums it up. I literally have more tweaks and customizations on the jailbroken iPhone than I do with my rooted Note 3. QuickDo, reveal, bitesms, phantom (for snapchat), pandora downloader, mewseek, codescrambler, cyueye, f.lux, flagpaint, folderenhancer, rageboard, quickphoto, locationholic, luna, octopus keyboard (blows any android alternative away) protecti, spotdict, springtomize, and zeppelin.
I love the note 3 though, hands down better in terms of everything. size, speed and specs. I just think that the Cydia/Jailbreak community is much more integrated and tighter. Jailbreak is easy to get rid of and go back to stock without having to worry about any KNOX flags being tripped etc. Simply restore with iTunes and that is it. I would like to see some of the tweaks I mentioned and maybe have a more centralized repository, especially for us new to android from ios