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Iphone os on the hd??

any chance to get the iphone os portet on opur hd??
so we can switch between winmo an apple??
with this posibility we could have the nice games and apps from iphone and or lovly winmo!!!!!
lake this boy habe it on the iphone
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/13/windows-mobile-ported-to-iphone-we-think/
i think this is a good idea
so devs pleace if it is posible make such a think
sorry for my bed english!

s-slawa said:
any chance to get the iphone os portet on opur hd??
so we can switch between winmo an apple??
with this posibility we could have the nice games and apps from iphone and or lovly winmo!!!!!
lake this boy habe it on the iphone
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/13/windows-mobile-ported-to-iphone-we-think/
i think this is a good idea
so devs pleace if it is posible make such a think
sorry for my bed english!
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THIS WAS FAKE.
Google more next time :$

reminds me of the good old times when linux was announced to run on the P3300 / artemis - at first everybogy dumped it for a hoax, a couple of weeks later a bootable and usable version was on my machine - mind you, telephone not working...

Iphone OS is possible on Touch HD i think
hi Guys
i think this is a great idea and i dont think it is impossible..might just be a lot of work though.. wish i could help do it.. have friends with iphone and would luv to port it to my touch HD.
heres my ideas.
in essence Iphone OS is linux .. correct? unless immistaken it has its roots in Linux and we already have Android running on a touch HD what would be the difference in the code between Android and iphone OS.. can someone perhaps look into this
i would luv to get some feedback from other users see if it is possible..
thank you
s-slawa said:
any chance to get the iphone os portet on opur hd??
so we can switch between winmo an apple??
with this posibility we could have the nice games and apps from iphone and or lovly winmo!!!!!
lake this boy habe it on the iphone
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/13/windows-mobile-ported-to-iphone-we-think/
i think this is a good idea
so devs pleace if it is posible make such a think
sorry for my bed english!
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I hope you are all joking, right? Why would you want to poison such a beautiful device like that?

cRaCKwHoRe said:
I hope you are all joking, right? Why would you want to poison such a beautiful device like that?
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why would you want to dumb down winMo is the question. The iphone hardware is so bad that if you're going windows mobile you should buy an HD or something with decent hardware.

Iphone os on the hd??
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It must be a joke.... bwhahahaha
if not:
When God was handing out brains you must have thought it was chocolate milk shake and asked for an extra thick one

This would be just as useful as ice in the Antarctic. Just buy an Iphone, if you want to have its os, as the devices are quite similiar (at least the dimensions).

HTC TRouch HD vs iPhone
I think it would be a good idea. Imagine ending the eternal "my phone is best" -battle showing the capabilities of the touch hd!
Come on guys!

TouchHD-za said:
hi Guys
i think this is a great idea and i dont think it is impossible..might just be a lot of work though.. wish i could help do it.. have friends with iphone and would luv to port it to my touch HD.
heres my ideas.
in essence Iphone OS is linux .. correct? unless immistaken it has its roots in Linux and we already have Android running on a touch HD what would be the difference in the code between Android and iphone OS.. can someone perhaps look into this
i would luv to get some feedback from other users see if it is possible..
thank you
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Apple base OSX on FreeBSD so I'm guessing the Iphone os is too

shruff said:
It must be a joke.... bwhahahaha
if not:
When God was handing out brains you must have thought it was chocolate milk shake and asked for an extra thick one
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hahah agree!!
if you want IPHONE look/OS please buy that cheap phone! the only good think in iphone is the interface and the music player

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!!!!!
his is the biggest bull**** I have heard what
why buy HD if you like the iPhone?
otherwise buys iPhone and keeps the HD, as you can make its
a switch between the two ....

Best allround solution I think:
Don't 'copy', 'clone' or 'port' the OS X as a whole. Instead, take aspects of it say ... I dunno ... user-friendliness and adapt it into what Windows Mobile does best. So instead of using a dead ugly IE 6 checkbox on your application (it's depressing to see when I'm using manilla or 6.5 today) use a nice image or bloody skin the thing.
Apple has always had it's sex-appeal over Windows (objectively speaking) BUT Windows has always found a way to kick it were it hurts and still impress. Sadly I don't think the mobile war is moving quick enough on out end so lets give them a helping hand rather than jump ship!

O and O said:
Best allround solution I think:
Don't 'copy', 'clone' or 'port' the OS X as a whole. Instead, take aspects of it say ... I dunno ... user-friendliness and adapt it into what Windows Mobile does best. So instead of using a dead ugly IE 6 checkbox on your application (it's depressing to see when I'm using manilla or 6.5 today) use a nice image or bloody skin the thing.
Apple has always had it's sex-appeal over Windows (objectively speaking) BUT Windows has always found a way to kick it were it hurts and still impress. Sadly I don't think the mobile war is moving quick enough on out end so lets give them a helping hand rather than jump ship!
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amen, give winmo a god damn user-friendly ui, and some fluent graphics and screw apple.

garyjmobey said:
Apple base OSX on FreeBSD so I'm guessing the Iphone os is too
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you certain bout that? actually, osx is the os from the flopped NEXT system that steve jobs came up with more than a decade ago, and osx, even though its had some face lifts, and iphone os and apps are still coded in Objective-C, a long dead language that predates C++. it isnt even really object oriented. not deep down at the core anyway. its regular C wrapped in some pityfull object oriention extention. anyway, freebsd wasnt around when the next system or objective-c were developed, so that theory is a no-go.. sorry...
i for one would like to see winmo ported to the iphone hardware, but who would write the drivers? not apple, i assure you, but it would be fun!
on another note, from time to time, i pass off my hd as a new prototype iphone black, or the iBlack. put an apple icon as your start icon, go with a black theme, and watch those media-head teenagers drool... its worth every penny hahahaha....

SomethingWicked said:
...actually, osx is the os from the flopped NEXT system that steve jobs came up with more than a decade ago, and osx, even though its had some face lifts, and iphone os and apps are still coded in Objective-C, a long dead language that predates C++. it isnt even really object oriented.
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As far as I know, OSX (and iPhone OS) is based on Darwin, a full open-source FreeBSD derivative developed by Apple... And I guess that Objective-C was chosed for "application developers" to ease the porting of pre-OSX apps to the new OS. And of course, because it seems that using a language no other one uses must be "iCool"

+1 why one earth would someone want to poison HD with such bad OS?
Yes it has fluid graphics and chicks like it, but it sucks at everything else!
Buy SPB mobile shell and make it look like iphone if you so much want it + it is 100x better.
New version 3 is nice competition for even touchflo 3 and x1 panels!

im all for the Touch HD that is why i got myself it and not the iphone... looks much nicer in terms of screen and feel.. much better.. i just want to get OSx on there to proof to someone that the WM platform is much better than apples because you can do ANY thing with it.. even port your competitions OS to it
so its more getting bragging rights than anything else.. i agree that we need to get WM to a point where it can compete with Iphone in a way.. Touch HD doesnt have any hardware keys anymore.. but the OS not completely finger friendly like Iphone.. much to learn from Apple in that regard.. WM is going to have to shape up..
one other thing.. how amazing wont the Apple OS look on the AWESOME HD screen .
other point WM lacks in a lot of software that the iphone has.. not saying i would use everything on the market.. but its kinda nice having the option.. and not seeing something cool on the iphone and then wondering.. hey where is the WM version.. so either the developers need to wakeup and develop for WM and Iphone or we need to port the OS to the HD.. or i need to get an iphone latter option not really an option .. i wont go to the darkside

To support the different hardware one need to write a HAL and so forth. Not a job feasible for individuals (Time, man power and money). Besides this IMAO why would one like to poison such a beautiful device..

The iphone OS is a severly locked down piece of [email protected] in my opinion. You can't change anything, you are in jail with it. The apps are a joke, I never saw such useless applications. The only good thing the OS has is a good on screen keyboard and good web browsing capabilities. Besides that it's garbage. There has been allot of progress with the Windows mobile OS and I think we are getting close to having everything we need/want (allot of good apps, good web browsing and good on screen keyboard). Just my opinion. I used the Iphone 3g for several months. I have a brand new one sitting inside the box sealed that apple replaced for me. BTW, if anybody wants it it's for sale (Black Iphone3G 16GB). Just my opinion.
s-slawa said:
any chance to get the iphone os portet on opur hd??
so we can switch between winmo an apple??
with this posibility we could have the nice games and apps from iphone and or lovly winmo!!!!!
lake this boy habe it on the iphone
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/13/windows-mobile-ported-to-iphone-we-think/
i think this is a good idea
so devs pleace if it is posible make such a think
sorry for my bed english!
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Symbian on Rhodium

So we've seen the projects to create a ROM for Android on the Rhodium... Well now that the Symbian Foundation has released their open source code I think our handy dandy developers have an even greater challenge on their hands!
Who else is interested?
For those of you interested I've included information on the source code from Symbian.org:
developer. symbian. org/wiki/index.php?title= Categorylatform_Opening&action=edit
Hey fellow XDA-ers. I thank you for your thoughts thus far. Android is only a part of the next wave in Mobile Computing. Honestly I've found the MyTouch I owned from T-Mo too be toooooo slow and toooooo consumerish. I like a phone that has both lifestyle and professional all in its mix. This makes me a big fan of WinMo and Symbian. Seeing that Windows Mobile and Symbians *NEW* operating system both run C++ and .NET it may be much easier, practical and cooler than we think.

Yea...
Theoretically it should be a pretty fast and stable alternative. It would be dope, but there wouldhave to be some major UI changes for me to try it out....but maybe I'm unsure on how far Symbian has come...

I personally don't see the need for another proprietary operating system with its origins 20+ years old, windows mobile is enough of that for me.
Android was developed from the ground up with modern mobile devices in mind and in my opinion anyways is the most promising mobile os on the market right now.

Gootah said:
Theoretically it should be a pretty fast and stable alternative. It would be dope, but there wouldhave to be some major UI changes for me to try it out....but maybe I'm unsure on how far Symbian has come...
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UI changes in Symbian??? Sense/TF3D makes Symbian look like a Palm M500 I'd rather any developers with free time spend it on Android.

totalperception said:
So we've seen the projects to create a ROM for Android on the Rhodium... Well now that the Symbian Foundation has released their open source code I think our handy dandy developers have an even greater challenge on their hands!
Who else is interested?
For those of you interested I've included information on the source code from Symbian.org:
developer. symbian. org/wiki/index.php?title= Categorylatform_Opening&action=edit
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No need for that man. Even though Symbian has the highest exposure worldwide Android is the next wave, plus Nokia has Maemo to push as it is. Dual OS is more than enough for HTC user, such as myself. Just imagine triple boot Gen.Y where are you? LOL

just buy yourself a damn nokia ...

Android is crap i had a few device, and simbian is just fallin in darkness...

why would you want symbian? i could see android and iphone os for the apps and winmo for the customization and community support, even palm and webos... for reasons. but symbian isnt pretty, or userfriendly, customizable, or have alot of apps. its a slightly uglier version of blackberrys os. besides does it even support wvga resolutions? i think the only other os to do that is android.

... what a weird discussion, I do understand to have Symbian a lot more than Android here are my point against android:
- everybody says it is open source, the core is but nothing else that is why there are so few aternative ROMS
- No real GPS software, dont even star to compare with solutions available on Symbian or WM
- No tethering without hack!!!!! I am dreaming here, I was about to by the Moto-Droid, when I saw that I went back to my good TP2
- Google is as close as Apple when it come to app available on its store.
a nice GUI is NOT all, and software and functions make the difference, people can complain as much as they want about the "old" WM is it so far the OS which give the more flexibility and Symbian cones just behind, use a N97 and you'll see how smooth it is.
Now this will probably lead to a troll discussion but for me trying to adapt Android to some other device or symbian is perfect for fan who want to play but not for "production" phone, and for that I clearly keep WM so far. waiting for WM7
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OP: Have you ever even used Symbian? I have, and I have to say it's the most god awful mobile OS I've ever used. I returned the Nokia I bought within a week because Symbian was truly terrible. I can't honestly imagine why anyone would want to run Symbian, by choice, when you have other options like Android, Maemo/Mer, Windows Mobile, or anything other than Symbian. I wouldn't ever want the capable developers who could port Symbian actually waste their time on such a terrible OS. Porting Symbian to the Pro2 would be a downgrade; it would be like trading in a premium, business class smartphone for a $10 feature phone. IMO, not worth it. [/my 2 cents]

CarpeNoctem said:
... what a weird discussion, I do understand to have Symbian a lot more than Android here are my point against android:
- everybody says it is open source, the core is but nothing else that is why there are so few aternative ROMS
- No real GPS software, dont even star to compare with solutions available on Symbian or WM
- No tethering without hack!!!!! I am dreaming here, I was about to by the Moto-Droid, when I saw that I went back to my good TP2
- Google is as close as Apple when it come to app available on its store.
a nice GUI is NOT all, and software and functions make the difference, people can complain as much as they want about the "old" WM is it so far the OS which give the more flexibility and Symbian cones just behind, use a N97 and you'll see how smooth it is.
Now this will probably lead to a troll discussion but for me trying to adapt Android to some other device or symbian is perfect for fan who want to play but not for "production" phone, and for that I clearly keep WM so far. waiting for WM7
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i've used the N97 before. in fact, I came to the TP2 from an N97. symbian is, IMO, one of the most brilliantly designed mobile OSes in existence but it's implementation on the N97 was flawed, to put it mildly. don't get me wrong--I love Symbian and the N97 but there was too much wrong for me to overlook. For one, the v. 12 firmware(and, to a lesser extent, the v. 20 firmware) was too buggy for me and the N97 was all but smooth even with theme effects turned off. This may have been remedied with more RAM and a MUCH faster CPU(OMAP 3, anyone?). For what was to be a flagship the N97 was a great disappointment.
As for Symbian on the TP2, I would wait until later in the year to see what Symbian^3 has to offer before considering porting it.
Just my $.02...

@jaekidd1012
You get the point and understand.
I think most of the people are thinking of the old S40 OS which was garbage. But S60v5 which will now become the revamped Symbian^3, ^4 and ^5 will be an amazing piece of ROM and feature rich capabilities.
Because Symbian and WM are both written in Windows codes this should be a much easier project than Android. Android is great for those who want to use it but it's going to be overshadowed in years to come by Apple, Nokia and Windows.
(pending the Nokia v Apple litigation over Apple misusing patented Nokia technology)

i would love to see sense on wvga. i hope htc isnt giving up on that. i think android has the customization of windows mobile with the app store and prettyness of iphone os. just dont expect any other os's to run. linux has a way of working on any device.

ScooterG said:
UI changes in Symbian??? Sense/TF3D makes Symbian look like a Palm M500 I'd rather any developers with free time spend it on Android.
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Thumbs Up!

The Jack of Clubs said:
i would love to see sense on wvga. i hope htc isnt giving up on that. i think android has the customization of windows mobile with the app store and prettyness of iphone os. just dont expect any other os's to run. linux has a way of working on any device.
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That where I disagree. the Operating system is the base of a platform and so far Android is as stuck as the iPhone, WM offer a lot more "playability" let see if WM7 will be as good for that. the important part is also the software and Android/Google as iPhone/Apple want to control all of this so refuse software allowing tethering and have the right of life and death on any application. I HATE this,
I bought the phone, it is MINE, if I want to void the warranty it is my problem, if I want to install an illegal application in my country I take responsability and refuse that google or Apple guide me like if I was a kid, I mean look at that: http://www.androidguys.com/2010/01/25/nexus-censoring-swear-words/ I really can't stand that you buy a piece of equipment for so much and companies want to force you to use it there way. Plus privacy!!! GOOGLE STORES EVERYTHING YOU DO WITH YOUR (???) PHONE!!! And nobody complains, everybody loves it. a nice GUI is not enough to make a good OS, I am not even talking about the iphone and the multitasking...

totalperception said:
You get the point and understand.
I think most of the people are thinking of the old S40 OS which was garbage. But S60v5 which will now become the revamped Symbian^3, ^4 and ^5 will be an amazing piece of ROM and feature rich capabilities.
Because Symbian and WM are both written in Windows codes this should be a much easier project than Android. Android is great for those who want to use it but it's going to be overshadowed in years to come by Apple, Nokia and Windows.
(pending the Nokia v Apple litigation over Apple misusing patented Nokia technology)
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I was wondering why other posters were making it sound like this was the worst idea anyone's ever read...it didn't sound too bad to me, hah. S60v5 doesn't look as awful as the posts are making it seem.
I don't really care too much either way on this topic. If there was a working rom out there I'd flash to it just to tinker around with since I've never used symbian. That said, I'm more excited about android progress (Even more so about W7, fingers crossed that we aren't disappointed), and totally fine with wm6.5.3 for day to day use until my next device.

android lets you customize the look and feel as much if not more than windows mobile, supports multiple devices and different resolutions, and lets you install programs outside the app store. thats why i think its most like windows mobile. it has the bonus of looking good and having lots of apps like iphone os. which is all why im most excited about it. i think it still feels a little bare but its getting developed fast.

The last time i really liked Symbian, it was called EPOC on my good old Psion Series 5mx, it had great community and support, nowadays symbian is just a crippled platform that mostly Nokia uses. I think its too late for them to go open source, it should have happened years ago...
I just hope that WM7 will be as good as Win7 after the good old matured XP

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
OP: Have you ever even used Symbian? I have, and I have to say it's the most god awful mobile OS I've ever used. I returned the Nokia I bought within a week because Symbian was truly terrible. I can't honestly imagine why anyone would want to run Symbian, by choice, when you have other options like Android, Maemo/Mer, Windows Mobile, or anything other than Symbian. I wouldn't ever want the capable developers who could port Symbian actually waste their time on such a terrible OS. Porting Symbian to the Pro2 would be a downgrade; it would be like trading in a premium, business class smartphone for a $10 feature phone. IMO, not worth it. [/my 2 cents]
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I have to agree with Dave this OS is just crap...

phr33ksho said:
I personally don't see the need for another proprietary operating system with its origins 20+ years old
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how exactly did you come up with "proprietary" idea when it was released as opensource. by the very definition it can not be proprietary.
20+ years ago? wow... you are pretty ignorant, aren't you? why don't you go read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian_OS before you make yourself look any more foolish.

Android + Microsoft = A good combo?

You know, Microsoft and HTC agreed to back each other up over HTC Windows/Android handsets (since they have been partners for a long time) over the Apple sh*tfight over the 21 stolen patents from the iPhone. In my personal opinion, I think Microsoft in a way is starting to realize that Android may be a interesting platform to tinker with.
Why am I saying this? Well, I've got a HTC Tattoo. And a HTC Snap. AzusaROM on one, 3VO WM6.5 ROM on the other. They both talk to each other and exchange 1s and 0s happily. I look at my HTC Snap, and Microsoft really made WM6.5 perform nicely.
Still, the Windows Phone platform (WinMo 6.x/WP7) may be on the verge of dying, but I think if Microsoft plays around with Android a tad, they could tap into a world of possibilities. ActiveSync for Android? Microsoft Office for Android? etc etc.
For example, let's say Microsoft takes a poke in Android, and builds a Windows UI for Android. Not that it would happen, let's just imagine it. It would be a Aero-like Windows Phone 7 UI running on top of a Android Kernel either provided by HTC or compiled by Microsoft themselves. You'd still have the Windows compatibility layer, but you could run Windows/Android apps natively. And have the sexy UI goodness that would deglamour the iPhone. Don't like the Aero UI? Press the "Disable" button and poof, you're back to the Nexus One Launcher.
I know I'm possibly dreaming or you think I've lost my marbles, but hey, just my two cents from my point of view.

Personally, Windows Mobile is horribly ugly to me. As is Symbian and all other mobile platforms. The ONLY one that ever caught my eye was Android. It's the first smart phone I've ever owned, next to a BlackBerry which isn't even really a smart phone in my book, just because it actually has a nice UI.
Android is just so.... slim and sleek. WinMo seems to bulky and compacted for me.
That's just thinking at it from the UI point. Can't really say what they would do with compatibilities. Honestly, can't rate too much on ANY features. Never owned a phone with Windows Mobile.

r3s-rt said:
Personally, Windows Mobile is horribly ugly to me.
Android is just so.... slim and sleek. WinMo seems to bulky and compacted for me.
That's just thinking at it from the UI point. Can't really say what they would do with compatibilities. Honestly, can't rate too much on ANY features. Never owned a phone with Windows Mobile.
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Ummm win mo is equally sleek and wasy if your talking in phone terms then Hd-2 is slimmer than your android phone

hell no, they will kill each other before first round

Sialis said:
google and microsoft cant cooperate
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REALLY!?!?!? I mean, REALLY?!?!?!?!?! Look at the date.

MS alreqdy make more money from android than they do from WP7 so they are well aware of the lucrative market available.
Thing is, if they were to release Office for android it would kill WP7 off as it would signal a lack of faith in their own mobile OS.
So we would either have to wait for MS to give up on the mobile OS game, or for WP7/8 to get enough of a market share that developing for android would cause no harm.

ROFL at the ancient bump... good job.

I'm gonna get flamed really bad for this but I think android should go smoothly with osx ( apple computers)
That'd a good combo IMO.
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Big bang? Nokia-Microsoft (con) fusion

I have read in today newspaper that both CEO from Nokia and Microsoft have met and decided to join and will launch new Nokia windows based smart phone in 2011-12.
they are going to take this step against Apple and highly growing android device to jeep them both alive in competition

I thinks that Nokia is wrong. But only the time will tell us that's true or not.

with this..nokia wil be far away from android

More Competition is a good thing, I have heard mostly nothing but good things about WP7, but having never seen one in real life I'm not so sure. Symbian will be missed by some, I think it might have been better if Nokia started selling Android and WP7 handsets.

rhapsodixx said:
with this..nokia wil be far away from android
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Nokia has already said they don't want to go Android. I don't agree with this, but symbian was a dying platform, and they chose Windows Phone 7 to keep them going. I'm glad they chose an Os that has some interest in it, unlike Meego. Meego has hardly any type of interest in it. Intel is even going on the Android train against Meego, even though they created Meego with Nokia.

vbetts said:
Nokia has already said they don't want to go Android. I don't agree with this, but symbian was a dying platform, and they chose Windows Phone 7 to keep them going. I'm glad they chose an Os that has some interest in it, unlike Meego. Meego has hardly any type of interest in it. Intel is even going on the Android train against Meego, even though they created Meego with Nokia.
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yes.we will see something New.and yes they decided to go with windows

vbetts said:
Nokia has already said they don't want to go Android. I don't agree with this, but symbian was a dying platform, and they chose Windows Phone 7 to keep them going. I'm glad they chose an Os that has some interest in it, unlike Meego. Meego has hardly any type of interest in it. Intel is even going on the Android train against Meego, even though they created Meego with Nokia.
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It is kind of disappointing though that they couldn't get anyone interest in Meego. I would definitely like to see new OS from Nokia that was interesting.
Even though they're making some Win7 Phones, Nokia still mentioned they were more interested in developing their own phone software. Who knows what will happen in the next 2-3 years though.

I admit I that it is sad that they at least reduced speed for MeeGo.
But well,
at their current situation if kind of makes sense. Microsoft needs someone that the first generation of WP7 wasn't the last in the market. And I guess there are already too many good Android manufacturers. So hopefully WP7 helps them to survive the next two years and hopefully they are by then done with ready-to-release MeeGo version.

i think noia is making the wrong move

manrayboy said:
i think noia is making the wrong move
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Me to, this is going to be a disaster

Well i dont think nokia did anything wrong.
If all phone have same Android Os than no body will purchase nokia. So i think this is very good move of nokia that it going with window and not choose Android.
Even Local mobile phone company also has Android Os on thair Cheap Smartphones.
By the way Meego also have very small market till now.
But if nokie going with Window , so Nokia Qt will also support in Nokia's Window phone. i dont think nokia wasted their time to make Qt Market and developers.
So i hope Qt will support in Nokia's Window Phone.
watch this what 3rd party developers say about the merger...

haha, Maybe my next phone is nokia with wp7..

On one side, they're right to drop Symbian and move on to something newer.
On the other side, they're wrong to chose WP7 and not Android, cause Android is 'the new hotness'. It's getting all the developer love and support, while we haven't even heard of ANNOUNCEMENTS for ports of popular apps.
I don't know what their deal with Android is, but at least they're doing something new on a new OS, not stone-age Symbian.

Symbian is officially dying, Nokia did the sensible thing.

Nokia to beat Android?

Here's the article: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/nokia-our-first-priority-is-beating-android/
My first thoughts were....hahahaha! In their dreams.
Open source can't be beat, simple as that. But Google do need to come up with a better strategy for implementing their OS on the devices otherwise fragmentation will drive potential customers away.
In my view WP7 is a step backwards, the UI is horrible with home being filed with tons of tiles that you have to scroll through, no real multitasking, locked down like iOS etc, and now Nokia thinks that this move will beat Android. Are they that arrogant?
I did a speed test comparison between DHD and HD7 and WP7 got its ass smacked, it loaded apps/games much slower.
They should of made a better version of N900, that was not a bad phone but could of been a monster.
Your thoughts?

The day that Nokia has dominance over Android, I will get an iphone. I currently own the 1 and only Evo 4g, rooted, stock. (wireless tether of course).

yeah i think nokia is making a bad move

lol good old nokia trying to make a comeback...

I honestly don't know who even carries Nokia phones anymore They once made really nice phones. Windows mobile or phone 7 or what ever they are calling it this year is in the same boat imo. I carried wm since the HTC 8125. And year after year I pationatly waited for ms to get it right, and they never did. It did get better in terms of reliability but I still had to reset my tilt 2 a few times a week.
I think the team up could be good for them but I could care less.
To me, It's like 2 old men in your neighborhood teaming up and thinking they are gonna take back that snow shoveling biz that they had when they were kids all the while everyone already has the youngsters down the street with their self propelled snow blowers that knock out the jobs in no time.
They pissed off most of us loyal wm folks along time ago and you know how that saying about screw me once, screw me twice goes....not gonna happen to me.
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Hmmnn, noki is not going anywhere except in your dreams

Speaking of steps backwards hows the whole no GPU accelerated UI treating you guys? I'm loving having a homescreen that doesnt look like an iphone ripoff. Nokia has an astounding market share in the European market, they have the power to help drive WP7 much higher. Call it a step backwards if you'd like. It's nice to not have to flash a new rom at least once a week to have a functional phone.

I like Nokias phones. My brother has the n8 and the camera is amazing! hopefully this works out and I'll get a nokia with a xenon flash

z33dev33l said:
Speaking of steps backwards hows the whole no GPU accelerated UI treating you guys? I'm loving having a homescreen that doesnt look like an iphone ripoff. Nokia has an astounding market share in the European market, they have the power to help drive WP7 much higher. Call it a step backwards if you'd like. It's nice to not have to flash a new rom at least once a week to have a functional phone.
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There it is, that's what I was waiting for.
UI is hardware accelerated on 2.3 and up, even 2.2 can have it with a minor file modification. How the no copy/paste going? Or hows the whole can't edit a email when forwarding going? When M$ bring out an update will you jump around like a little schoolgirl and call it innovation? C'mon man, the OS is seriously lacking the most important features, it's shameful.
Sure stock UIs layout is slightly like iPhones but looks nothing like it though. You see, I can make the UI looks how I want which fits my needs, not what a few guys think it should be.
Flashing ROMs has nothing to do with having a functional phone, it's only to improve it further and bring out the potential.
Nokia may help with a few sales but many longtime fans will turn around and look elsewhere for a phone to fulfill their needs.

Nokia wont ever beat android
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Why not??? Nokia will beat Android... Didnt u read the article?

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There it is, that's what I was waiting for.
UI is hardware accelerated on 2.3 and up, even 2.2 can have it with a minor file modification. How the no copy/paste going? Or hows the whole can't edit a email when forwarding going? When M$ bring out an update will you jump around like a little schoolgirl and call it innovation? C'mon man, the OS is seriously lacking the most important features, it's shameful.
Sure stock UIs layout is slightly like iPhones but looks nothing like it though. You see, I can make the UI looks how I want which fits my needs, not what a few guys think it should be.
Flashing ROMs has nothing to do with having a functional phone, it's only to improve it further and bring out the potential.
Nokia may help with a few sales but many longtime fans will turn around and look elsewhere for a phone to fulfill their needs.
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Important features? in the 2 years I had android I can not remember a single occurrence in which I used C&P or needed to edit a forwarded email. Would it be nice? Sure. Is it necessary? Not at all. The point is while android has these features most of them are haphazardly thrown together and hardly functional where what WP7 has (even though it is lacking some features) truly works without having to jump through hoops. GPU acceleration is possible apparently on 2.3 plus but due to fragmentation and other issues it isn't implemented. If you can truly say the vibrant with its impossible lag or the dodgy touchscreen on the cliq or any of the other ill built phones were functional before custom roms your much more prone to fanboyism than I. It's nice to have a phone that really works, android was a low-end alternative to the iphone, putting it on high end devices is like throwing a Chevy cavalier engine in a lambo, it just makes them look bad except to the community thats always flashing roms which frankl, I dont have the time for any more.

I think Nokia partnering with Microsoft to make WP7 phones is a dumb move. Elop was quoted as saying Nokia is like being on a burning oil platform in the North Sea. So what he wants to do, is to jump onto another burning oil platform called WP7? I think it's entirely due to the fact that Elop is a former Microsoft exec!
I wasn't at all surprised, when I read an article yesterday that said investors were so upset with the news that Nokia stock price fell 14% and many Nokia employees were so upset, they used flex time and left work early.
What I think Nokia should have done, is partnered with Google and used Android. These new phones should be supplied with some kind of proprietary libraries or emulation that only works in Nokia phones to allow existing Symbian apps to run seamlessly. That way, it would provide a practical upgrade path for existing Nokia phone owners. This worked great for Apple when they went to OS X which was a completely different UNIX-based architecture, but used Rosetta to allow old PPC Mac OS apps to run. They could even market a play on words with Symbian related to symbiosis.
I just don't see how going to the smartphone platform with the least market share will help matters. WP7 has less market share than even old WinMo 6.x according to current stats.

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I think Nokia partnering with Microsoft to make WP7 phones is a dumb move. Elop was quoted as saying Nokia is like being on a burning oil platform in the North Sea. So what he wants to do, is to jump onto another burning oil platform called WP7? I think it's entirely due to the fact that Elop is a former Microsoft exec!
I wasn't at all surprised, when I read an article yesterday that said investors were so upset with the news that Nokia stock price fell 14% and many Nokia employees were so upset, they used flex time and left work early.
What I think Nokia should have done, is partnered with Google and used Android. These new phones should be supplied with some kind of proprietary libraries or emulation that only works in Nokia phones to allow existing Symbian apps to run seamlessly. That way, it would provide a practical upgrade path for existing Nokia phone owners. This worked great for Apple when they went to OS X which was a completely different UNIX-based architecture, but used Rosetta to allow old PPC Mac OS apps to run. They could even market a play on words with Symbian related to symbiosis.
I just don't see how going to the smartphone platform with the least market share will help matters. WP7 has less market share than even old WinMo 6.x according to current stats.
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Your whole argument is based on the foundation that WP7 in 4 months didn't sell as much as WM did since 03? Really? Ya don't say? Their choices were either be just another fish in the android OEM pool that would have received no more attention and no more rights than any other or be THE manufacturer of WP7. Really though, why would you jump from marketing symbian to marketing some re-skinned version of android... that's like jumping from Windows ME to windows Vista. They're both buggy and both require tons of modification before they're usable. Android only sold because it was marketed by google and essentially looked like a low-end iphone for every carrier. WP7 is innovation, it currently lacks a few basic features but what it does have works and thats more than any other OS except iOS can say and honestly, who wants those hardware limitations and ugly UI?

Well, we all know what Vic Gundotra thinks about this...

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Your whole argument is based on the foundation that WP7 in 4 months didn't sell as much as WM did since 03? Really? Ya don't say? Their choices were either be just another fish in the android OEM pool that would have received no more attention and no more rights than any other or be THE manufacturer of WP7. Really though, why would you jump from marketing symbian to marketing some re-skinned version of android... that's like jumping from Windows ME to windows Vista. They're both buggy and both require tons of modification before they're usable. Android only sold because it was marketed by google and essentially looked like a low-end iphone for every carrier. WP7 is innovation, it currently lacks a few basic features but what it does have works and thats more than any other OS except iOS can say and honestly, who wants those hardware limitations and ugly UI?
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No, my whole argument is based on WP7 being a sales FAIL. The comparison to WM is only a point of reference, because it's generally well accepted that except for a few fanboys, nobody likes WM.
No, their choices were to use Android, a product that people actually WANT, vs WP7, a product that nobody wants. It doesn't matter how awesome or innovative you may think WP7 is, if nobody wants it, nobody's going to buy it. So if Nokia wants to make money, and unless I'm mistaken, but all companies exist to do one thing and that is make money, they should choose the platform that makes money rather than one nobody wants.
You're saying iOS has an ugly UI? Compared to WP7? Seriously? For most people I know (and according to sales figures, most people worldwide), the UI is what turned them off to WP7 and drove them to Android or iOS.

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Important features? in the 2 years I had android I can not remember a single occurrence in which I used C&P or needed to edit a forwarded email. Would it be nice? Sure. Is it necessary? Not at all. The point is while android has these features most of them are haphazardly thrown together and hardly functional where what WP7 has (even though it is lacking some features) truly works without having to jump through hoops. GPU acceleration is possible apparently on 2.3 plus but due to fragmentation and other issues it isn't implemented. If you can truly say the vibrant with its impossible lag or the dodgy touchscreen on the cliq or any of the other ill built phones were functional before custom roms your much more prone to fanboyism than I. It's nice to have a phone that really works, android was a low-end alternative to the iphone, putting it on high end devices is like throwing a Chevy cavalier engine in a lambo, it just makes them look bad except to the community thats always flashing roms which frankl, I dont have the time for any more.
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lol wut?
This is basic functionality I use most days. Even if I used it monthly the whole point is that when I need it it's there, thats the power of android. You don't need all the features every day, but when you do need it its all there ready.

I will take a speedy UI and no c&p over the opposite any day. No one dropped wp7 and turned to Android or IOS because of the UI. No one has used wp7 because they're a fanboy of either of the other oses and think anything else is wrong. Wp7 in its first poor iteration has a more complete feeling than any of the 30ish Android devices I've owned and that's just sad. Wp7 is small now because people fear change regardless of how much smoother the user experience is.

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I will take a speedy UI and no c&p over the opposite any day. No one dropped wp7 and turned to Android or IOS because of the UI. No one has used wp7 because they're a fanboy of either of the other oses and think anything else is wrong. Wp7 in its first poor iteration has a more complete feeling than any of the 30ish Android devices I've owned and that's just sad. Wp7 is small now because people fear change regardless of how much smoother the user experience is.
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Not true. The only fanboys I know are on this site. I've recently talked to many smartphone n00bs who are getting a smartphone for the first time. Just from playing with the phone in the showroom, they narrow it down to Android or iPhone. WP7 is never even considered. Some people will switch from Android to iPhone and vice versa. People on this forum excluded, I don't know anyone who has even considered going from iPhone to WP7 or Android to WP7. Even my wife, who isn't even remotely a fanboy, has no interest in WP7 simply because she doesn't like how, "it looks so plain and boring". Maybe people would love WP7 if they actually used it for awhile, but Microsoft can't even get them through the door, much less reel them in.

Wp7 needs a mascot like a bald guy in a turtleneck or a little green robot. Then it would be srsbiz.