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What GPS software package are you guys thinking of using?

Well, I am all prepared to buy the Kaiser when it hits the market. I am already looking at the GPS software packages out there for my Kaiser (hopefully GPS is not locked to Telenav). Even if it is locked, I am pretty sure all the good cooks out here will modify the ROM to fix this. What are you all thinking about using?

I've been using Route 66 on my Wizard and it works quite well. DeLorme Pocket Street Atlas is OK but the maps and routing aren't as good.
Lots of people swear by TomTom, and a few reviewers/testers have used it on their pre-production Kaisers. Both semsons.com & buygpsnow.com have a wide selection of GPS software packages.

I use tomtom and find it great.

i think ill also use tomtom. which one is the best?
ive never owned a gps device, so that's the only software ive really heard of..

I've been using OCN6 with my Wizard. . . anxious to see if it works with the Kaiser/8925/Tilt.

Route66 for me. I want my traffic information without having to pay a subscription...
Only thing that could be improved is the frequency of the map updates, where TomTom is the clear winner, but I've had no problems with my R66 map accuracy so far.

regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?
I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?
And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?

Try Mapopolis...
I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.
Mapopolis has a GPS TRAIL option that logs your trip at preset intervals (every 5 minutes, 5 miles or whatever). All you have to do then is use the Location SMS feature of WM6 with pictures attached at capture the places you want. From there, you can create a nice Trip Photo Album with coordinates or send the trip via email.
TEC

I can't really compare software as I have only used Tomtom, but I have always found the program great and have never felt tempted to even try another software package because it has always worked so well.

With my 8525 I purchased the Garmin Mobile 10 which is this awesome little gps receiver that fits in your palm. It's bluetooth and all I do is put the tiny thing in my pocket. It uses Garmin software and works amazingly well. I'm wondering whether this would be MORE accurate than the built in GPS receiver in the Kaiser. If this is more accurate then I'll keep on using it but if the 8925 works just as well then I'll probably sell the garmin.

southy said:
regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?
I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?
And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?
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u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday
Pdafun.net
its a program called "Google Navigator"

ksjulsen said:
u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday
Pdafun.net
its a program called "Google Navigator"
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Wow great find. The downside to this software though is it requires an internet connection to connect to google when planning routes. So, if you don't have coverage then youre going to get lost.

MDA Vario III
The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct

I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser
*crossing fingers*

UnicornKaz said:
I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser
*crossing fingers*
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If anybody wants to send me a Kaiser I will try several packages out and report back in a review format.......
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dai_white said:
The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct
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Says here its coming with tom tom taster version
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/wi...tytn-ii-europe-ultimate-mobile-companion.html

I'll be using iGuidance, as it's what I'm using now on my Hermes...

I'll be using TomTom Nav 6. It also has a satelite download but I've never used it.

I just got my TyTN II and installed iguidance 3.0.1.
It doesn't actually start most of the time. It appears to run once after a reboot but then not again.
I can see the exe in the process list but the app is not actually running. or never finishes starting.
So maybe i will give tom tom a try. LOL
Edit: Oh actually i ran it and waited 10 minutes and the program actually launched.. so there are definitely a few issues.

technillion said:
I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.
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Actually, I'd love if someone with a Kaiser would try Mapopolis - just load the Los Angeles, USA map and see if it's usable. My Hermes dogs out completely at high zoom levels - I'm presuming due to only 64MB of memory vs the 128MB in my old iPAQ 5555. (By "dogs out" I mean drag-panning the map is extremely jerky and category searches take near to a minute!)
Mapopolis' POI management is second to none, and it's had text-to-speech for ages. TomTom v6.030 is the latest PocketPC version I've found and it still has no text-to-speech, won't allow you to add your own POIs to the canned categories, etc.
Richard

Which GPS App for s730?

Hello
Does anyone of you us the s730 with an external GPS?
If yes, which application do you use for Routing? TomTom? Navigon?

TomTom doesn't work very well on the S730. They don't produce a SP specific version so you're stuck with the PocketPC version, which kind of works if you use FakeCursor, but it's a right faff, only useful if you already have TomTom Navigator and don't want to spend on anything else.
As for the anything else, CoPilot 7 looks good, although I haven't tried it.

Fount on S710 forum:
The best one is Garmin Mobile XT for Windows Mobile Ver. 4.10.40w, here is the link

That looks terrible!

I'm using Route66 Mobile 7, and I find it very well made.

Hehe, Garmin XT tested some Years ago (was fixed to only garmin GPS receivers)
Now they make the finnish better and open the restrictions between XT and Garmin GPS Receivers.
All what i can say: it works
BG Joy

Also Navigon NMM6 is for specifically for smartphones. I have just got a copy, screenshots are great, but since I only have 1GB card (maps are just below 2GB) I have not had chance to try it yet.
Besides TomTom 5.2 - 5.26 haas also been made for smartphons nd does not require touchscreen.

I've swapped an old copy of TomTom Mobile 5.2 to my S730 and it works perfectly. Ok, the maps are getting a little old but major routes don't change that often! If anything it's better than it was on my C500 - the display is much clearer.
I'm using the TomTom BT GPS to connect, and that works fine with Google Maps.

madferret said:
I've swapped an old copy of TomTom Mobile 5.2 to my S730 and it works perfectly. Ok, the maps are getting a little old but major routes don't change that often! If anything it's better than it was on my C500 - the display is much clearer.
I'm using the TomTom BT GPS to connect, and that works fine with Google Maps.
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I had TomTom 5.2 unfortunately only for Symbian 60! When I upgraded to TomTom 6.0 it included all formats but Smartphone was no longer supported

You could try CoPilot 7 which is available for Windows Mobile and you may be lucky enough for it to use your working internal GPS on your device Dumdidum
http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/default.asp

Thanks but buying this on good luck-base... nope

Ups just saw that they even used the Wings for their screenshots (on CoPilot 7 website)

Hi,
I use my old Tomtom 5.2 Smartphone verision. Its fine, but not up to date. Unfortunalty my other TOmtom 6 LIcence from my old Palm Treo does not work, because S730 is not suppoerted anymore....
By the way. I checked Navigon Mobile Navigator 6. But before spending 130 Euros for it I want to test it. Does anyone has the installation program files for Smartphones, so that I can give a try?

I do not really want to spread warez, but check torrent P2P

Can use TomTom 5.20 too, but cannot connect with the integrated GPS :-(

Route 66 V7 is working with the internal GPS juhuuuu

just naturally working, or did u make some changes to the registry/teaks?
thanks

Dumdidum said:
Route 66 V7 is working with the internal GPS juhuuuu
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CoPilot and Route66 are known to work fine with devices that have an internal GPS, therefore no seperate external GPS is required.
TomTom however doesn't recognise the internal GPS of equipt devices yet, so they have to also have an external GPS

paholman said:
TomTom however doesn't recognise the internal GPS of equipt devices yet, so they have to also have an external GPS
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Not true. TomTom uses the internal GPS on the TyTN II as well as others.
Where it doesn't work is with Symbian devices such as the Nokia N95.

Dumdidum said:
Can use TomTom 5.20 too, but cannot connect with the integrated GPS :-(
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Have you tried with GPSID set to COM6 instead of the default COM4? IIRC, TT Mobile 5 will only connect to Bluetooth devices on COM6.

Best GPS software

What is the best GPS software that works on the Diamond and why?
From what i can see the big ones are:
Tom Tom
iGo
Destinator
Route66
CoPilot
Google Navigator (yeah ok the wildcard!)
Do any of these have built in/downloadable speed cameras, and do any have traffic information?
I'm sure everyone is else will be asking the same question in about 1 week

Personally I like tomtom the most, it might be that im just used to it cuz I was using it for few years, Garmin mobile xt is pretty decent too. They both have speed cameras/ traffic but it's an extra service. I think traffic is free but you have to buy speed camera locations

i have used IGO,Destinator, Papago & TomTom.
Currently, I have TOMTOM on my diamond and it works great! I think TomTom is very user friendly and provides good info. You can get fixed red light cameras and fixed speed cameras.
I hope this helps

Garmin
phankhi said:
i have used IGO,Destinator, Papago & TomTom.
Currently, I have TOMTOM on my diamond and it works great! I think TomTom is very user friendly and provides good info. You can get fixed red light cameras and fixed speed cameras.
I hope this helps
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I have Garmin Mobile XT, it is pretty good. When you arrive at the destination, it tells you whether the address is at right or left side of the street. It is especially helpful when you are on a wide street with 2 or more lanes each side, you can be prepared to go left or right. On the other hand Tomtom does not tell you whether the address is on the right or left side of the street. Otherwise they both are comparable.
Just my 2 cents.

What is the difference between Google Navigator and Google Maps?

I´m not able to install tomtom on my diamond it does not find the maps any ideas?
best regards
Herby

I've always used Tomtom. But it hasn't been updated for two years and there is no news of a new verison coming out yet (apart from the usual rumours). I'm going to try Copilot 7.
Copilot was always good (had it years ago) but had a clunky interface. Looks pretty good now its had the interface re-done in the latest version.
Not a bad review of it here...http://www.trustedreviews.com/software/review/2007/11/01/ALK-CoPilot-Live-7-for-Windows-Mobile/p1
Don't know about Destinator or Route66. Never used them. And from other posts in this forum I don't think iGo will work. I think it will only run off a copy protected SD which rules out the Diamond, but I could be wrong on that.
Anyone know the situation with iGo?
Also any previous users have any comments about Route66 or Destinator?

IGo is locked to the micro SD card it is supplied on which is a real shame as it makes putting this application on to a device with no card slot impossible. It also makes it impossible to copy the app/ maps onto a larger card so once you have bought it you only have a small amount of free space available unless you are happy swapping cards all the time where a card slot does exist.
I would consider looking at Route 66, its a decent application although the maps are around 12 months old which seems strange for a very newly released application (version 8 for PPC). These maps are around six months more up to date than the v675 map which is the latest map release that works with TomTom Navigator 6.
Tried Destinator and never bothered putting it back on the PDA, too slow and clunky for my taste, I also have Co-Pilot Live 7 and that seldom gets used because I find the interface too slow although once you get used to it its a decent application, another one is Sygic Live, great potential but the version I used tended to route down back streets, narrow lanes etc to the extent I didn't trust it - Mike

I currently have TomTom and MioMap on my Touch Cruise.
I prefer MioMap.

I have just made the switch from CoPilot 7 to Garmin XT. Garmin seems to have more functionality- or maybe I'm more familiar with it because I have it in my car and it's EXACTLY the same interface!

mkhattab said:
What is the difference between Google Navigator and Google Maps?
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Google Navigator: http://www.pdafun.net/

So it seems everyone has their favourites! How about from a speed camera/traffic update point of view? Please correct me if i'm wrong.
It seems all of them charge for speed cameras with some anual charge, but by registering for free here you can get an up to date speed cameras POI for the UK for free. http://www.poigenie.co.uk/speed_cameras
There are also other versions around compiled from the official tomtom update and other sources.
For traffic, it seems again they all charge unless your using TMC - which the diamond doesnt have (right?).
Since iGo doesnt work i'm now split between TomTom - because eventually we'll get a v7 rom / and Garmin - because alot of people seem to like it.

I think Copilot speed camera updates are free. But they charge for Traffic info (bout £35 for 2 years ).

Do any of these sat nav apps come with card readers seen as the Diamond doesn't have an SD card slot.
I'm assuming most of these are supplied on SD card
Thanks

I have MioMap3.3 and TomTom V7 on my trinity, I by far preferr MioMap but I have to use TomTom because it has more upto date maps and knows more POST codes than MioMap.
I dont think you have to have an SD card to install either of these programs and they both work perfectly.

I have tried Tomtom, Garmin, Navigon and iGO8 and I think that iGO8 by far is the best one. I think there is a version for the Diamond but I do not know if you can by it without the phone...
It is however quiet easy to install the regular version on a Diamond even without a SD-slot. Just use the searchfunction and you will find an answer in this forum.

I have Tom Tom and it is working fine

What GPS software are you using on your Touch diamond.

Well I'm using Tomtom 6, l'm not a big fan of it, the maps are quite bland and boring.
What are other GPS softwares that have decent maps that work with the touch diamond? I'm quite pissed Igo8 has issues..

I am using CoPilot 7, I got it with my Orbit 2 a while ago, Its ok, easy to use, POI Searches can be a bit annoying but and the routing isn't as good as the tom tom I don't think but it still gets you from A-B.

richardirv said:
I am using CoPilot 7, I got it with my Orbit 2 a while ago, Its ok, easy to use, POI Searches can be a bit annoying but and the routing isn't as good as the tom tom I don't think but it still gets you from A-B.
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Garmin Mobile XT. Very happy with it.

MapKing R12. GPS is just a toy for me, so it doesn't really matter. As long as it's working, it will be fine.

andrewloh said:
MapKing R12. GPS is just a toy for me, so it doesn't really matter. As long as it's working, it will be fine.
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I have to say it's the same for me. It's actually funny because I have Garmin XT on the Diamond and I have Garmin in my car and both use the same map file so it's a bit overkill. Only used GPS once since I got the phone and that was to try it out of curiousity

Co Pilot 7, got with my Orbit 2. Quite happy with it, but would have preferred TomTom

Turning on Internal GPS
I installed the Garmin Xt on the the Diamond but it keeps searching for a Blue Tooth GPS. Is there some settings I need to do to get it to recognise the internal GPS and Vice versa. Thanks in advance

Destinator 7, I tried TomTom and hated it!

Im using TomTom 6 now. I have a TomTom Go 920 as well.
Never used Destinator 7 or Garmin XT - are these good? better than TomTom? Worthwhile checking out?
I released TomTom allows you to "Navigate to" and you can choose a contacts address - handy since I have addresses for most my contacts - it would take ages to store them into favourites.

using GMXT and MapkingR12...
for me maps for GMXT is more complete and updated than the one in Mapking..

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Im using TomTom 6 now. I have a TomTom Go 920 as well.
Never used Destinator 7 or Garmin XT - are these good? better than TomTom? Worthwhile checking out?
I released TomTom allows you to "Navigate to" and you can choose a contacts address - handy since I have addresses for most my contacts - it would take ages to store them into favourites.
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Also using TomTom 6. Received my Diamond yesterday, I came from a Kaiser device.
But the screen draw is very very slow comparing to the Kaiser. Perhaps because of the VGA screen, don't know.
Also the directions and pointer are runnig about a second slower than the Kaiser (it's running 10 mtr behind my car).
Hopefully there will be a TomTom 7 and hopefully that will run smoother, I'm a very big fan of TomTom.

Friend of mine has a VGA HP PDA with Tomtom 6. Screen redraws are terribly slow. I have same version of Tomtom on my Prophet (QVGA) and it runs very smoothly. Think its down to the number of pixels.

I'm using Navigon 6.2 with europe map.
I always used to install and use iGo, but iGo 2006 and iGo 8 don't work with the Diamond

Socarumba said:
I installed the Garmin Xt on the the Diamond but it keeps searching for a Blue Tooth GPS. Is there some settings I need to do to get it to recognise the internal GPS and Vice versa. Thanks in advance
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You need to config settings in Garmin. to cable GPS, and then point to correct COM (in my case COM4)

Just got my diamond and I can't seem to get tomtom6 in landscape mode. The tiltfunction doesn't work in the todayscreen or tomtom itself so I guess I'll have to find a rotate cab or get used to the standard mode.

Using Sygic McGuider.
Very impressed by it, good for TomTom users, nice screen on diamond, works like a charm and newer maps !!

Destinator

How do you guys get Garmin XT onto your device? Is it possible to copy the files from the SD card onto the phone?

jellyme said:
Friend of mine has a VGA HP PDA with Tomtom 6. Screen redraws are terribly slow. I have same version of Tomtom on my Prophet (QVGA) and it runs very smoothly. Think its down to the number of pixels.
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Any workaround for this? The menu is terrible slow also, seems like other problem than pixels. Map-building takes ages, loading maps etc.

xzces said:
Just got my diamond and I can't seem to get tomtom6 in landscape mode. The tiltfunction doesn't work in the todayscreen or tomtom itself so I guess I'll have to find a rotate cab or get used to the standard mode.
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Use Mortscript to start TomTom with a script file. Before starting TomTom use command Rotate (90).

TomTom Vs Garmin Vs McGuider

Hi,
I am looking to buy new GPS software for my Kaiser.
I am currently using a dodgy copy of TomTom7 that came on my second hand Kasier a few weeks ago and am so far very impressed with it.
Right now i have a shortlist of two. How do McGuider (am looking at 2009 version) and Garmin (XT version) compare to TomTom7? Should i throw Route 66 into the mix?

I never used Garmin, but I have tried Tomtom and McGuider. The main differents is that McGuider has a lot more eye candy, Really very Nice!
Whit both I had no complaints about the 'voice' and the instructions (dutch).
Only downside from Mcguider is that it is sometimes, a couple of meters, to late whit corners and the recalculation is a bit slow.....so don't drive to fast .

thank you.
Expansys are doing a £10 off deal just now so i can get McGuider 2009 European Maps for around £45 or Route 66 8 UK maps for just £25. Seeing as i have only once had a car outside of the UK in the last 5 years the euro maps are far from essential so it comes down to how good the interface/operation is and how good the UK maps are.
Anyone used Route 66 8? have read mixed reviews so was hoping some of you folks may have first hand experience with it.

rchand said:
I love Garmin 3D map. Anyone interested in Garmin's card pre-populated with the application and maps... let me know.
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Are you talking about Garmin 3D map? I've never heard about ... Is it a totally new stuff that Garmin gives?
Also, I'm running iGo8 on my Kaiser, but I used to play with both Garmin Mobile XT and Tomtom. I dont know why people prefer TT rather than Garmin, may be just people in Europe ... To me Garmin is better in North America. And one more annoying issue in Tomtom is that, to quit the program you have to go to the final page of the menu ...

Yep.....its an awesome map....work flawless

TomTom MAPUPDATES
I vote for TomTom7.910.
Downloaded TomTom Home2.5 FREE from tomtom.com
Got myself a FREE account at tomtom.com and it worked great.
Activated FREE map-updates & i've always got the latest maps (Benelux 8.15.2024 with 5000+ corrections).
Which program can compete that?
pocketgpsworld vs TomTom 7.910:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474146

I tried TomTom 6 and Mobile Navigator 7 from Navigon.
TomTom is muuuuch easier to handle. In Navigon the buttons are so small and therefore not good to be pressed while driving. TomTom is intuitive and has the best performance in my opinion. Just don't use the biggest cards (like complete western europe) Then it will lag like hell if you browse the maps manually.
But I don't use navigation with my kaiser since my car got a tomtom one which can be used without any expensive and kaiser-specific car- or poweradapters The only bad thing with it is, that the kaiser has a better display with more lumen.

I've tried Tom Tom and Garmin, and vastly preferred TomTom. The POI database was much better and Garmin was a bit sluggish on my Tilt. The only complaint I have with TomTom is that it, if my phone is muted when it opens, there's no way to unmute without closing and reloading the program. It's also a bit ugly, but it just works too nicely to complain.
I tried iGo, but could never get the program to fully load on my system without crashing.

Garmin vs. Tom Tom
I have Garmin and have tried tom tom and I have to say I like Garmin XT BEST!! I can help you get garmin xt for free if you want, let me know.

Agreed. I've tried Garmin and TomTom7 on my TYTNII and hands down prefer Garmin. Much nicer general appearance of application, both easy to navigate and map display much nicer on the eye on Garmin. You just get that feeling and TomTom just didn't do it for me...