Possible to dual boot Phoenix 2 and valkyrie firestorm 6 - XPERIA X1 ROM Development

Like the title says, is it possible to dual boot Phoenix 2 and valkyrie firestorm 6. For example, a computer can dual boot two OS's, in which during boot-up, you can pick the OS (this case ROM) in the bios (or in this case the RUU, I don't know).
I haven't heard this in any threads/ROM threads, but I researched through google and found that you can format and partition a MicroSD Card into two FAT32 partitions (I'm not sure though), enabling two ROMs to coexist. I would not know how this would work though, because there is no 'bios' to choose eirther ROM at startup.
I'm kind of doubting dual boot options on the xperia x1, but I need some kind of clarification; it would be great to dual boot these two ROM's, but I can not find a official way how to.
I know this is a little early to ask, but if this thread gets popular, can some developer cook up something to enable this option?

No, this is not possible.

Just no? There must be a good reason why; could you go into some general explaining, like why it can't be done? No offense to any developers, but is it really that hard to make something that can enable this?

Yes, this is not possible.

I as well would like to know the reason

Oh come on, give us one good reason why it can't be done.

eurosport360 said:
Oh come one, give us one good reason why it can't be done.
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1)this is not a computer
2)you can't just place two different roms on a memory card and flash!
3)there just isn't enough space on the xperia!, its not a hard drive we can change!
and 4) we don't have a "dualbooting" SPL/bootloader
theres your (kind of obvious) reason(S)

Jonny4911 said:
1)this is not a computer
2)you can't just place two different roms on a memory card and flash!
3)there just isn't enough space on the xperia!, its not a hard drive we can change!
and 4) we don't have a "dualbooting" SPL/bootloader
theres your (kind of obvious) reason(S)
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oh 4) running a rom of a memory card is just stupid, it would be god awfully slow
5) no bootloader supports loading off a SD card
6) android barely runs off a SD anyway, what do u expect from windows mobile?

Good answer, that's what I wanted to hear. I hope in 10 years or so SD cards can develop with better access speed, better size, bla bla bla so this is possible.
Thanks

eurosport360 said:
Good answer, that's what I wanted to hear. I hope in 10 years or so SD cards can develop with better access speed, better size, bla bla bla so this is possible.
Thanks
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In 10 years (if the planet will still be here) you will not recognize much difference between a mobile and a computer.. hoping for faster memory cards is silly they are getting faster and faster over a night no need to waut years for that

uristic said:
In 10 years (if the planet will still be here) you will not recognize much difference between a mobile and a computer.. hoping for faster memory cards is silly they are getting faster and faster over a night no need to waut years for that
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I mean like to the extreme though, like 50 gigs per second or something. But you are right though, the rate its evolving, I don't know what its going to be like.

Dude.. from all the reasons Jonny4911 mentioned why it can't be done, you only picked up "too slow to work from SD"? (also how would you flash to the SD in the first place and be able to boot up from the SD...) any of the other 4-5 reasons is one reason enough, it can't be done!..

noONExda said:
Dude.. from all the reasons Jonny4911 mentioned why it can't be done, you only picked up "too slow to work from SD"? any of the other 4-5 reasons is one reason enough, it can't be done!..
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I'm just joking around, of course I get the reasons! They make sense!

Related

massive ammount of problems on JFS 1.51

getting read to just swich to one of the hero roms at this point but figured before i do i'll see if any of these can be fixed.
This all started right shortly after the 1.51 update
First of all, I've wipped the phone and reinstalled twice now and left the battery out and did formats and tried new SD cards and all that and these are the problems i'm having.
-Camera will not save once finished. It takes the picture but it never saves to the SD card.
-Screen randomly changes orientation by itself when the phone is not moving at all. on a table
-Lots of random crashes
-and the worst. Certain apps will only download 50% of the file size when i download them making them never work, If this happens it's impossible to ever download it. Even after wiping and reloading the phone the same thing happened again. It also happens in updates as well. Killed mybackup pro and i had to go download it off rapidshare because i needed to make backups and the market download would never download properly.
So basically, is there any way to fix all these problems or am i better off just going through everything and flashing to a new rom now.
very strange, never had problems on JF1.5 or 1.51. Have you tried flashing JF1.5? If that's still causing problems I'd try Cyanogens build. Sorry I can't help much, but you've already tried everything I would have suggested
yeah i've posted on a few forums and did everything there. then figured i might as well post here as a last resort.
I did try going back to 1.5 and things worked fine, then went to 1.51 again and everything happened again. I'd like to be running the latest release of any custom rom, and hero looks awesome so i'm thinking that if i can't fix this i'll just go through everything to upgrade to hero
There are no major changes from my JFv1.50 release, except a few new kernel modules.
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Hardly anything to update for, but whatever, have fun with hero Don't flash the SPL without the Radio (seems obvious but loads of people are spamming looking for a nonexistent solution to unbrick :< )
yeah i guess. Just me being myself wanting the lastest things. And don't worry i won't do that. been reading all about it for the last few days after i decided to give up on jfs 1.51
thanks!
neok44 said:
yeah i guess. Just me being myself wanting the lastest things. And don't worry i won't do that. been reading all about it for the last few days after i decided to give up on jfs 1.51
thanks!
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The Hero build certainly looks nice, but it might take you a while to get used to the slight slowness compared to the non-Rosie builds. Still... very pretty, keeps me mesmerized while I wait for my stuff to load... j/k
I've been using aHome for 5 months, i'm used to lag. lol.
nothing prepares you for Hero lag!!! just kidding, with linux-swap or compcache, its pretty snappy, but not comparable to non-hero builds.
well i'll find out soon enough. If it ends up being really bad then i may just go to some other ROM but i'm really hoping to have hero run good. Unfortountly i just have a normal Micro SD 2GB which has no class distinction so hopefully it'll be alright. If not i may have to go get another 8GB.
When i tried to format the last 8GB to get apps2sd working one program destroyed the card. shows up as 8MB now instead of GB. lol.
use cyns rom. most fastes freshes bestes cupcake ever. even tastes better. and his recovery also.
neok44 said:
well i'll find out soon enough. If it ends up being really bad then i may just go to some other ROM but i'm really hoping to have hero run good. Unfortountly i just have a normal Micro SD 2GB which has no class distinction so hopefully it'll be alright. If not i may have to go get another 8GB.
When i tried to format the last 8GB to get apps2sd working one program destroyed the card. shows up as 8MB now instead of GB. lol.
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there is a way to fix that on linux mentioned somewhere here on the forums...
it involves just writing 0's through the card
B-man007 said:
there is a way to fix that on linux mentioned somewhere here on the forums...
it involves just writing 0's through the card
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yeah, unfortountly i have no machine with Linux and i have no spare room on my PC right now to do another partition. I'm using up like 750GB of about 850 total lol.
RE- massive ammount of problems on JFS 1.51
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yeah, unfortountly i have no machine with Linux and i have no spare room on my PC right now to do another partition. I'm using up like 750GB of about 850 total lol.
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You can run linix right from cd-rom.
UBUNTU
I too noticed alot of lagging in jf1.51 after moving all apps to sd so I took off Ahome and openhome and it runs alot better. I also need to get a class 6 sd card which will help speed things up. currious...does anyone know if there are limitations on the size of the sd card for G1? I looked on HTC's site and T-mobile's as well it just says micro sd 2.0.
didn't know that. guess i'm gonna have to grab that and try to fix my 8GB
and i thought that the G1 was capped at 8GB but i've seen people say they have 16GB cards so i guess you can go up to 16gb. which i think is the largest they make in micro sd
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didn't know that. guess i'm gonna have to grab that and try to fix my 8GB
and i thought that the G1 was capped at 8GB but i've seen people say they have 16GB cards so i guess you can go up to 16gb. which i think is the largest they make in micro sd
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Seen people with 32gb lol
damn why the hell would you even need 32GB thats just crazy.
neok44 said:
damn why the hell would you even need 32GB thats just crazy.
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Lol the more space you have the more you will fill it. its like buying a 160gb ipod.... ur never gonna use all of it

App to test microsd card speed???

Is there any app available that can do this???
Nope.
But the request does come up enough that maybe I should write up something simple...
Kcarpenter said:
Nope.
But the request does come up enough that maybe I should write up something simple...
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That would be awesome. A lot of times theres no specs on the speed of cards out there and your not really sure of what you are buying. It would be awesome.
excellent idea for an app. there are cards out there that do not list there class and cards that are listed as class 2 yet reach class 6 speeds.
cheers,
ryan
If you guys would give me a good algorithim to test read/write speeds I can work on it later tonight. It will probably take a few days a best.
But My idea is write a 2 meg file to the SD card, time it. Read the same file from the card, time it. Do a little math...present some numbers...
Now there are a lot of issues that could come into play with that method. Maybe repeat it 3 or 4 times just to see an average, but still its not the best that it could be.
What about just getting a microsd adapter or even mounting it to the computer. And then run a program that tests read/write speeds and use it on the card. like h2testw or something :/
kyouko said:
What about just getting a microsd adapter or even mounting it to the computer. And then run a program that tests read/write speeds and use it on the card. like h2testw or something :/
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1. On the phone is just cooler
2. On another thread about this topic there was debate about how accurate it would be to use an adapter or mounting as a drive. Adding cable seems to me like it could increase latency and you are no longer using the phones OS to test its internal stuff. ( i know its USB its faster than the card anyways, but see #1)
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If you guys would give me a good algorithim to test read/write speeds I can work on it later tonight. It will probably take a few days a best.
But My idea is write a 2 meg file to the SD card, time it. Read the same file from the card, time it. Do a little math...present some numbers...
Now there are a lot of issues that could come into play with that method. Maybe repeat it 3 or 4 times just to see an average, but still its not the best that it could be.
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You can start from there then trial and error. I was thinking you can take a look at any of the web SpeedTests in the market and learn something from there.
If you are on linux you can mount the phone and run
Code:
hdparm -tT /dev/sdd
where sdd is the phones drive(could be different on your machine)
That will give you a read speed but would would be limited by your USB read speed.
Hdparm is not built into android so you can't run it from the phone. There is one command that is built in that can measure speeds... However it is VERY VERY VERY dangerous so I hesitate to post it here but... dd
For the love of God do not mess with dd unless you read up on it and fully understand it. You could very easily measure write speed as well as read with dd but you would need an empty card because you would have to just blindly write to the blocks on the card. Doing which will at the bare minimum if you know what you are doing overwrite stuff on the card. Worst case is you mess up your partition table and have to re-partition. So I will only point you in the direction of dd and not post any code on how to use it for fear of some idiot entering the code and wiping their phone(although they would have to know how to use adb shell so they wouldn't be complete idiots)
This would be a useful app. I have a class 6 PNY SD and want to know how fast it really is.
Wow, what an AMAZING idea for an app. I would be more than happy to help and test!!!
Sooo
I am working on this guys.
I have gotten the program writing a file out to the SDcard. It just a randomly filled Byte Array being parsed to a file on the SDcard a few times, then reading it back off (Haven't got the reading part yet). I am running into some FC issues and also getting the timer to work is being a PITA. Android doesn't like my threads for some reason.
If I have time this week maybe I can get it done - or at least working, but I have some stuff going on that may slow down progress.
EDIT:
Also if anyone that is not quite so Artisticly Challenged as I am wants to get me some drawables. I can use an Icon and a 320x480 image back ground (Let's try to keep it simple , I have seen some of your boot screens. lol)
Bump for moral support!
couldn't you just pop it into an adapter, and use HD Tune on your pc? http://www.hdtune.com/
I think the concept of the app request is so people don't have to turn off theory beloved heroes and pull battery just to get to the SD card, babe.
couldn't you just pop it into an adapter, and use HD Tune on your pc? http://www.hdtune.com/
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Kcarpenter, if you don't mind me asking what the status on this?
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Kcarpenter, if you don't mind me asking what the status on this?
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Well, it reads and writes a 6 meg file while spinning a wait cursor LOL.
Been working on final projects the past few weeks.
Might have something out 2 week of june.
As it stands now:
1)Need to setup a time mechanism - probably most acurate to grab a time stamp before the start and after the finish. Threads tend to get time messed up.
2)After the file is written and the time is figured out. Need to display the read/write results.
3)Then need to cleanup the file and ram after everything is done.
Also, I have seen the file only become half of the size it should be (3 mb)....which I think has something to do with UTF (Chars taking up 2 bytes)....but I am not sure yet.
And on top of that...who the hell knows if its accurate LOL.
But it's been interesting and fun.
haha, well thats good. keeps you interested then. i honestly dont kknow anything about programming and what not, so i cant help you there. buuuutttt when you finish and need testers i can help. well try anyways
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haha, well thats good. keeps you interested then. i honestly dont kknow anything about programming and what not, so i cant help you there. buuuutttt when you finish and need testers i can help. well try anyways
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I am really interested to see if it's even remotly accurate.
Seems like creating a 6 meg file and writing it out from memory to the card would surely test well... But there are a crap ton of things that could come into play and effect it.
I guess we'll only know if we try.
unless my phone explodes, i see nothing wrong with trying it out.

16gb being "seen" by MIUI as FIVE gb - HELP !!!!

I sort of went down the rooting route due to everyone saying it was a MUST - even though the LG ran well, everything worked well and battery life was OK if not groundbreaking. So I was kind of half-hearted to start with.
Well, after 2 days of having to keep re-romming after this didn't work and that didn't work (Bluetooth in particular) I just can't get MIUI to see the 16gb card as the 16gb it is, it shows as 5. Now I had read this before. But that the LG software had this problem not the rooted stock. I even tried to go back to LG's original - It didn't work. The download on here (UK version of original Optimus 2x) doesn't install. Says "aborted" - this after horrendously slow download speeds. Keeps saying it's part of a multi-pack on my PC. Put them both on, but....
Anyways. The 16gb card. Ive tried another 16gb card with the same end result.
Can anyone PLEASE help me. Ive got no help on the MIUI site, and just lost. I tried to install Navfree and another navigation prog (Navfree UK maps don't download properly - keeps demanding more and more downloads. Ridiculously so - had to be uninstalled) tried another one, and it said it needed a 750mb download and there wasn't enough room - there was a MOUNTAIN of room. But its showing as 5. (Even there, theres not close to 5gb used)
Can anyone PLEASE help ?
All Ive got so far asking on half a dozen sites, is silence so far in 4 days
I doubt what is 'seen' as 5 gb by your phone is your SD card. I haven't ever heard of such problems. Big chances are, which often happens, that you're mistaking the internal memory as the sd card.
Stock MIUI mounts the internal and external cards the same way as stock LG ROM, but there could be a chance you used a swap mount mod without knowing.
I actually wanted to laugh, here i upload a file just for you
Here is the link for the sd mod.
http://www.box.com/s/7pl04u9onk76d80yb5tl
Credits goes too this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263311
Lol nice heading of miui. 16/miui = 5 kidding, never mind
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Excellent !!!!!
crankyboy said:
I actually wanted to laugh, here i upload a file just for you
Here is the link for the sd mod.
http://www.box.com/s/7pl04u9onk76d80yb5tl
Credits goes too this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1263311
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You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. It's solved my irritating problem and thats an understatement - now I have a proper 16gb sd micro in and all the room that invokes !
spica1234 said:
Lol nice heading of miui. 16/miui = 5 kidding, never mind
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And where was that ? Not in the heading. Check again.
Click the _______ button. (Fill in the blanks) Hint*"when somebody did a favour you should ?":
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You might have fake memory, memory thats been hacked to look like it has more than it does....the chinese do stupid s**t like that. Sometimes when the card is formatted the true memory capacity is revealed.
He is using MIUI ROM
Miui only uses the internel sd card ~~
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Click the _______ button. (Fill in the blanks) Hint*"when somebody did a favour you should ?":
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Er.....I checked, and yes, a big thanks given to you for your help. Quite profuse, actually. Ive just noticed the "thanks" button - but you could have done it with a LOT more grace.
Clearly, being thanked profusely didn't do it for you ?
Hard man to please.
I'll click the button then that I missed until er.....reminded of it a little too grumpily for me - hopefully that'll tick the box for you.
Still, while being a little miffed at the attitude, Im still very grateful for your help, for all that.

RAM managment

guys i know you all heard for this app (Ram manager pro)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartprojects.RAMOptimization&hl=en
but, i bet lot of you didnt notice a biiiiiig update...now you can swap your RAM on your internal, the fastest partition in our device (not even close to sd card class100)
but, im not sure about it, and i ask for help from developers or android wizz that know this method...
i noticed that this thing works, but, after you swap, you dont have space left...so, iv got partitioned my sd card, only to 256mb, just to check...and it really works again!
Again, but, you need to create swap file right after flashing fresh rom, so it (swap file) occupy internal memory at once! Cause, if you instal some apps, it will use sd ext, and probably go to sd card, wich doesnt make any difference in performance...
Once again, im asking for opinion of expert, to confirm this...
Im using latest jb4.2.2, and best way to check this is to play some game and to listen a music at same time : DIDNT GET FC OR ANY LAG!
tnx in advance
NOTE: don't create swap bigger than 128mb, thats our max internal
Does it really works? Because i used to swap too but it didnt make any difference in performance. The only thing i notice is my phone got hotter alot.....
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Nixoman said:
guys i know you all heard for this app (Ram manager pro)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartprojects.RAMOptimization&hl=en
but, i bet lot of you didnt notice a biiiiiig update...now you can swap your RAM on your internal, the fastest partition in our device (not even close to sd card class100)
but, im not sure about it, and i ask for help from developers or android wizz that know this method...
i noticed that this thing works, but, after you swap, you dont have space left...so, iv got partitioned my sd card, only to 256mb, just to check...and it really works again!
Again, but, you need to create swap file right after flashing fresh rom, so it (swap file) occupy internal memory at once! Cause, if you instal some apps, it will use sd ext, and probably go to sd card, wich doesnt make any difference in performance...
Once again, im asking for opinion of expert, to confirm this...
Im using latest jb4.2.2, and best way to check this is to play some game and to listen a music at same time : DIDNT GET FC OR ANY LAG!
tnx in advance
NOTE: don't create swap bigger than 128mb, thats our max internal
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Tried this last year .....the script was made by custdroid.....
Unfortunately the constant read and write on ROM is not so good for the hardware.. ...so I deprecated the project for mini also with such low internal memory I could create only 32mb swap on internal and the phone soon started yo take its toll ...you may try this but I am sharing my experience cause it may feel smooth for sometime but it reduces the life of your mini considerably cause ROM is supposed to non-volatile unlike RAM which is volatile...
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but isnt everytime you start app you writing and reading with data and cache? on internal?
Nixoman said:
but isnt everytime you start app you writing and reading with data and cache? on internal?
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But is that really as frequent and as comprehensive as RAM?
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But is that really as frequent and as comprehensive as RAM?
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i don't know, only way is to test it by myself, ill report behavior of my mini in one week, iv got nothing to lose, already out of warranty, almost 3 years old, got new nokia n9, i gonna take the bullet for that
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i don't know, only way is to test it by myself, ill report behavior of my mini in one week, iv got nothing to lose, already out of warranty, almost 3 years old, got new nokia n9, i gonna take the bullet for that
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That was a rhetoric question ....sarcasm if you may ...anyway you may try it....
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hsay said:
That was a rhetoric question ....sarcasm if you may ...anyway you may try it....
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why to be rhetoric when can be (or not) usefull if no harm causing to device? :fingers-crossed:

[Q] about moving applications to SD card

Guys does anyone here solved this problem in xperia z1 to move applications in SD card because i dont want to fully loaded my internal memory which is only 16GB..
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I would like to know about that also. Since my phone is not rooted, how do you get apps to install directly to the SD card. thanks
Me too.
bhagiratha said:
I would like to know about that also. Since my phone is not rooted, how do you get apps to install directly to the SD card. thanks
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Still my apps is installed in my internal memory...i hope in the next release of their firmware or android kitkat it supports moving apps to sd card.
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gaboh24 said:
Guys does anyone here solved this problem in xperia z1 to move applications in SD card because i dont want to fully loaded my internal memory which is only 16GB..
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I don't think we can install apps on the SD card yet ):
The OS is unix based, you can create symbolic links in the internal memory to point to the External SD card. These links tell the OS to look in the location you specified whenever something requests that folder, pretty much seamless.
There are other tools that have been developed which automate some of this for you, if you are not comfortable typing in a terminal window.
There is already a thread about this, conclusion is that mattiad is not going to be doing an internal2external mod, been using his mod for years and I asked him, told me that without the device in his hands (probably donated as he isn't going to be buying it) it isn't going to be happening, mount points and code are different from the s3 apparently.
I've personally been using folder mount, it's a paid app but allows you to mount the larger games and apps found in android/obb or anywhere from one location to another.
Upped my memory to 5GB from 2GB, I've got about 4 large games and around 100 apps installed so it does work.
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en_GB
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There is already a thread about this, conclusion is that mattiad is not going to be doing an internal2external mod, been using his mod for years and I asked him, told me that without the device in his hands (probably donated as he isn't going to be buying it) it isn't going to be happening, mount points and code are different from the s3 apparently.
I've personally been using folder mount, it's a paid app but allows you to mount the larger games and apps found in android/obb or anywhere from one location to another.
Upped my memory to 5GB from 2GB, I've got about 4 large games and around 100 apps installed so it does work.
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en_GB
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Thanks mate!
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dladz said:
There is already a thread about this, conclusion is that mattiad is not going to be doing an internal2external mod, been using his mod for years and I asked him, told me that without the device in his hands (probably donated as he isn't going to be buying it) it isn't going to be happening, mount points and code are different from the s3 apparently.
I've personally been using folder mount, it's a paid app but allows you to mount the larger games and apps found in android/obb or anywhere from one location to another.
Upped my memory to 5GB from 2GB, I've got about 4 large games and around 100 apps installed so it does work.
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount&hl=en_GB
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Thank you for the hint. I hope, that after upgrading to 14.2.A.0.290 root will not be remove and rooting will not be so difficult.
schickel said:
Thank you for the hint. I hope, that after upgrading to 14.2.A.0.290 root will not be remove and rooting will not be so difficult.
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Root will happen and there will always be a way around things, the problem Z1 users are facing is a lack of dev's to accomplish these things. Just compare the note 3 forum with this one, huge difference.
The camera bug has obviously played a part in this but it's causing irreparable damage to the Z1 community and has probably put off some dev's we could sorely do with.
Hopefully it'll change withe new releases but as time goes on i'm losing faith to be honest.
dladz said:
Root will happen and there will always be a way around things, the problem Z1 users are facing is a lack of dev's to accomplish these things. Just compare the note 3 forum with this one, huge difference.
The camera bug has obviously played a part in this but it's causing irreparable damage to the Z1 community and has probably put off some dev's we could sorely do with.
Hopefully it'll change withe new releases but as time goes on i'm losing faith to be honest.
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Haha! Dont loose faith mate it's just a phone we people are more intellegent than technology, because humans created it..
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gaboh24 said:
Haha! Dont loose faith mate it's just a phone we people are more intellegent than technology, because humans created it..
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Wearing very thin my friend

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