changing to different roms with apps2sd enabled - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i have just flashed superD and it is the best rom i have used so far, so fast its unbelievable.
i am just curious, if i ever want to experiment with other roms, will i be able to just flash them and then get all my apps working again? will the apps2sd stuff just work.
i currently have a 128mb ext3 partition for the apps but i dont use a lot of apps so its enough for me.
also how do i see the apps through a file manager like astro or linda?

can someone *please* let me know if its safe to change roms with apps2sd enabled, someone must know! just a yes or no would be enough!

I was able to do it with Amon Ra's recovery... Do a BART backup, then wipe Data, and Dalvik... Then Flash the new ROM... I was able to go from CM -> OE -> Kings without losing anything...
I then did a BART restore and brought back my CM installation like it never left...
Good luck...
L8r

Vermithrax said:
I was able to do it with Amon Ra's recovery... Do a BART backup, then wipe Data, and Dalvik... Then Flash the new ROM... I was able to go from CM -> OE -> Kings without losing anything...
I then did a BART restore and brought back my CM installation like it never left...
Good luck...
L8r
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this i dunno about that as bart never works on my recovery, guss becaus ei don't have an sd ext partition? but most roms usually say wipe sd ext partitions, and if you find a good backup program (like titanium backup) you'll never really need to worry about that. titanium not only backs up my apps, it backs up thier settings and such. so if i use a tvguide app on one rom and back it up with titanium, when i reload it on another rom it still has my location and such saved. pretty damn nice.

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[Q] Updating to Fresh 2.3.3 and/or Undoing Apps2sd

So I'm running Fresh 2.1 and tried to upgrade to 2.3.3 last night, but it was putting it into an endless reboot. I made sure I wiped the cache and data so the only thing I can think of that's causing the problem is that I'm using apps2sd and didn't wipe my ext3 partition. Reflashed back to my 2.1 backup and things are back to running fine now thankfully. It's brought a few questions up for me, though
Before I go the route of wiping my ext3 partition for apps2sd I want to make sure I can still recover back to the way things were before in case the upgrade to 2.3.3 doesn't work. I use Clockwork ROM Manager with Nandroid to do my backups but when watching the backup take place it looks like it tries to mount the ext3 partition to back it up but fails. Honestly not fully familiar with how apps2sd really works, so I don't know if that failure during the nandroid backup means my apps on the ext3 partition aren't getting backed up. Would that mean that if I wiped the ext3 partition and tried to recover my 2.1 ROM that my apps would not be there?
I thought maybe I could just undo the apps2sd setup, do a backup and then I'd be fine. But I'm having trouble finding clear, up to date instructions for how to undo apps2sd.
If anyone can clarify any of my issues or point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. Thanks!
Could someone at least point me to some updated instructions for undoing apps2sd on the Sprint Hero?
pdragon said:
Could someone at least point me to some updated instructions for undoing apps2sd on the Sprint Hero?
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The instructions you are looking for are here
Normally (at least in the RA recovery) when you go to the backup menu for nandroid, you can choose if you wish to backup normally or with the ext partition included (much bigger file, takes longer). Regardless, if you wipe your ext partition, and you need to nandroid back, the backup will work fine, you will just need to reinstall your applications.
I save myself some time when I need to do this by using "Shootme" (free on the market) and take screen shots of my apps, then I can just refer back to the screenies to find everything I need. Alternatively, you could use the ADB "pull" command and take a copy of your apps directory onto your computer, then push them back if needs be.
Hope this helps!
Thanks for the reply, runngwlf. I guess either the version of Nandroid I have, ClockworkMod Recovery, or my phone doesn't support backing up with the ext. When I go into Nandroid, my only options are Backup, Restore & Advanced Restore. Choosing backup just goes straight into running the backup with no choices. During the backup it gives an error saying it couldn't mount the ext partition.
Thanks for confirming the backup will still work, just without my apps. Guess I'll give it a shot!
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Normally (at least in the RA recovery) when you go to the backup menu for nandroid, you can choose if you wish to backup normally or with the ext partition included (much bigger file, takes longer)...
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Hah! That little tidbit got me going in the right direction. Looking through the ClockworkMod i saw an option to install RA Recovery as an alternative boot recovery. Lo and behold, rebooting into RA Recovery gives me that ext backup option. Thanks again!

[Q] About Darktremor A2SD

I am using the rom which is Darktremor A2SD compatible. Every time I change another rom then all apps will get force close. I need to reinstall those apps.
Is it normal?
Anyone can help me? Thanks!!
When you change ROMs, it's advised to ALWAYS WIPE EVERYTHING. That includes EXT partition.
If you want your programs to run after moving to another ROM - back them up using Titanium, change ROM, and restore them.
Jack_R1 said:
When you change ROMs, it's advised to ALWAYS WIPE EVERYTHING. That includes EXT partition.
If you want your programs to run after moving to another ROM - back them up using Titanium, change ROM, and restore them.
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Actually I'm not sure wiping EXT is necessary but certainly data, caches etc.. If problems continue, then wipe EXT too.
EXT should just have the APK's on it, they should just work.
If you're wiping /data, then you're left with APKs on EXT and no data structure for them in /data/data. Might be just the reason for force-closes.
Jack_R1 said:
If you're wiping /data, then you're left with APKs on EXT and no data structure for them in /data/data. Might be just the reason for force-closes.
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most roms detect and "re-install" the ext apps on first boot. All 200+ for me
Wiping ext would be the very last thing I'd do to solve a problem.
I used to do this. But i learned that it breaks some apps, and the built in rom restore function will restore any apps you got from the market. You need to do a full wipe when going to a new rom. upgrade may not need this, but some devs like king dont know how to make upgrades so all of his new versions require a full wipe.
Thanks you all! Seems that full wipe is necessary

[Q] A2SD & Flashing New ROM

Hi Guys,
I've posted in a couple of threads but didn't let loose for fear of hijacking it, so putting my question here for the good fellows to respond to if possible.
Basically put I have a ROM installed (Kang-o-rama SP1) and have a 1GB A2SD partition courtesy of DarkTremor.
What I want to know is what process should I go through to flash a new ROM but retain that Ext partition? I'm not sure if this is even possible? Should the wipe wipe absolutely everything and then after flashing the ROM I should rebuild the EXT partition and then use Titanium Backup (or something similar) to restore my apps to that A2SD partition?
Can somebody please just tell me what the best process is (even if that means wipe everything, and recreate from scratch each time you flash.
I was under the impression you see that I could wipe everything but retain the actual partition (albeit wiped) to restore apps to after a new Flash?
Thanks in advance
Probably your best bet is to use Titanium. When you restore, look for the setting in the app that mentions something to the effect of attempting to integrate your backup into a different ROM (Sorry don't have app in front of me).
You can also use ADB to pull your sd-ext to your computer. Push it back when you have the new ROM set up with ext
adb pull /sd-ext c:\whateveryouwanttocallit
I use Amon Ra's Recovery but I think Clockwork Mod has an option to backup just your sd-ext.

[Q] DT a2sd on cm7.1

Need help guys!
Today i flashed cm7.1 on my N1
(B4 i was using cm6 rc1 with DT a2sd)
Cm7.1 works great but i need a2sd for more space
After i flash DT a2sd beta 4 , i entered into boot loop
My phone wont boot
Whats the problem?? do i need to wipe sd-ext also
(As it may contain previous rom's app data?)
Thanks in advance
Please help!
wipe everything including sd ext or use nandroid backup if any( i usually make backup before flashing dta2sd ).if ur using cm 7.1 u can try S2E app available in market which does the pretty same job but its with gui so its easy to operate
amolji said:
wipe everything including sd ext or use nandroid backup if any( i usually make backup before flashing dta2sd ).if ur using cm 7.1 u can try S2E app available in market which does the pretty same job but its with gui so its easy to operate
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Thanks for the reply!! m i right tht wiping sd ext wont format files on sd card?(fat i mean)
I still get into boot loop after wiping sd-ext b4 installing DT a2sd
is there anything to do with the kernal
I would try doing a full wipe (including system) then flash everything a new. ROM, gapps then DT. If you don't want to lose your app data just backup with titanium backup.
Dude Random21 said:
I would try doing a full wipe (including system) then flash everything a new. ROM, gapps then DT. If you don't want to lose your app data just backup with titanium backup.
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Thx for the reply! i hv tried wipe system also. Still failed...
And yesterday i tried another a2sd method with s2e...
Everytime stuck at X screen during restart
Which recovery are you using? - your ext may be messed up...

Messing around with ROMs.

I would like to try some ROMs but my prolem is that if I dont like it I want to come back, BUT i don't want to create everything again with Link2SD.
So I can creat a nandroid backup -> instal new rom and IF I dont like it, -> restore nandroid backup or install previous rom and then do the nandoird restore?
Link2sd restores work fine provided you remove 05mountsd script from init.d prior to backup. The script creates a conflict with Link2sd after restoring a nandroid for some reason. At least this is the case on CM7.
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NunoPitbull said:
I would like to try some ROMs but my prolem is that if I dont like it I want to come back, BUT i don't want to create everything again with Link2SD.
So I can creat a nandroid backup -> instal new rom and IF I dont like it, -> restore nandroid backup or install previous rom and then do the nandoird restore?
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Nandroid backups store all data and symlinks of link2sd.
If you restore a nandroid backup you'll have the rom as you left it, including all apps on the partition, their data and link2sd links, so no need to link everything again.
dxppxd said:
Nandroid backups store all data and symlinks of link2sd.
If you restore a nandroid backup you'll have the rom as you left it, including all apps on the partition, their data and link2sd links, so no need to link everything again.
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I'm on stocklitle 7.1 and i want to upgradeto 8, I can do:
Nandroid abckup with CWM -> Install new ROM -> Restore Nandroid backup and everyting will be the same but with updated ROM?
NunoPitbull said:
I'm on stocklitle 7.1 and i want to upgradeto 8, I can do:
Nandroid abckup with CWM -> Install new ROM -> Restore Nandroid backup and everyting will be the same but with updated ROM?
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No. Nandroid backups alao store system and kernel, you'd be back to stocklite 7.
You can try this:
-nandroid backup your stocklite 7
-wipes, flash stocklite 8
-if it didn't change drastically, you can restore only the data of your previous backup (advanced restore > restore data).
-if it gives you bootloops... bad luck, you'll have to use titanium backup and relink apps afterwards.
I have gotten this to work for lots of nightly upgrades of cm7 roms, and sometimes even when changing cm7 roms if they're not too different. Nothing lost by trying as long as you got your backup.
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No. Nandroid backups alao store system and kernel, you'd be back to stocklite 7.
You can try this:
-nandroid backup your stocklite 7
-wipes, flash stocklite 8
-if it didn't change drastically, you can restore only the data of your previous backup (advanced restore > restore data).
-if it gives you bootloops... bad luck, you'll have to use titanium backup and relink apps afterwards.
I have gotten this to work for lots of nightly upgrades of cm7 roms, and sometimes even when changing cm7 roms if they're not too different. Nothing lost by trying as long as you got your backup.
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I'll try it maybe

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