[Q] About Darktremor A2SD - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am using the rom which is Darktremor A2SD compatible. Every time I change another rom then all apps will get force close. I need to reinstall those apps.
Is it normal?
Anyone can help me? Thanks!!

When you change ROMs, it's advised to ALWAYS WIPE EVERYTHING. That includes EXT partition.
If you want your programs to run after moving to another ROM - back them up using Titanium, change ROM, and restore them.

Jack_R1 said:
When you change ROMs, it's advised to ALWAYS WIPE EVERYTHING. That includes EXT partition.
If you want your programs to run after moving to another ROM - back them up using Titanium, change ROM, and restore them.
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Actually I'm not sure wiping EXT is necessary but certainly data, caches etc.. If problems continue, then wipe EXT too.
EXT should just have the APK's on it, they should just work.

If you're wiping /data, then you're left with APKs on EXT and no data structure for them in /data/data. Might be just the reason for force-closes.

Jack_R1 said:
If you're wiping /data, then you're left with APKs on EXT and no data structure for them in /data/data. Might be just the reason for force-closes.
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most roms detect and "re-install" the ext apps on first boot. All 200+ for me
Wiping ext would be the very last thing I'd do to solve a problem.

I used to do this. But i learned that it breaks some apps, and the built in rom restore function will restore any apps you got from the market. You need to do a full wipe when going to a new rom. upgrade may not need this, but some devs like king dont know how to make upgrades so all of his new versions require a full wipe.

Thanks you all! Seems that full wipe is necessary

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Why would my hero be completely stable on 1.6, but reboot frequently on any 2.1 rom?

I am extremely frustrated at this point so I have decided to make a thread.
My hero has been a good phone and runs 1.5/1.6 roms without any problems, and has for 6+ months. However, as soon as the 2.1 leaks came around, I was eager to try them. NONE of them will work. I have tried 6 or 7 different versions. My phone will shut off very frequently, which essentially makes it unusable.
Has anyone else experienced this and was able to fix it, or otherwise have any advice for me?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
pixie dust!!!..jk
I have no idea why.. have u wiped everything and flashed?
spiritcrusher33 said:
pixie dust!!!..jk
I have no idea why.. have u wiped everything and flashed?
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Haha. Yeah man, factory reset + dalvik cache wipe. Would a bad SD card cause something like this?
sounds like you didn't properly wipe... once you wipe EVERYTHING.. (after a nandroid).. you shouldn't have problems installing any ROM whether it be 1.5, 1.6, 2.1, 4.2 (coming to the htc hero6 in 2013)
edit: you mentioned factory reset... are u doing the factory reset thats installed in the settings menu or are you wiping everything from recovery?
Have you tried to go back to 1.5/1.6 to see if the problem occurred? This might help eliminating the hardware issue.
Which ROM did you tried? The latest one that I ran which is stable (no over clocking) is Fresh 2.1.1, look for this thread title "[ROM] 05/14/10 | Fresh Rom 2.1.1 | Official Sprint RUU + The normal fresh rom goodies"
I have always do this when installed the new ROM.
-Back up all your private apps (not system apps) with Android Commander (search the forums) to your PC.
-Use Recovery and wipe the followings:
1. Wipe Factory / Data reset
2. Wipe Dalvik cache
3. Wipe EXT partition
4. Wipe Battery Stat
Trust me this will save you a lot of hassle and time.
- Re-Installed all your Apps from Scratch using Adroid Commander. This always work best for me. I found less problem and less time consuming doing it this way.
Most of my problems occurred when I am too lazy to WIPE and install new ROM on top of the OLD one with out wiping dalvik and ext partition. An this make it more time consuming.
That's my experience. Hope this help.
roadster92 said:
Have you tried to go back to 1.5/1.6 to see if the problem occurred? This might help eliminating the hardware issue.
Which ROM did you tried? The latest one that I ran which is stable (no over clocking) is Fresh 2.1.1, look for this thread title "[ROM] 05/14/10 | Fresh Rom 2.1.1 | Official Sprint RUU + The normal fresh rom goodies"
I have always do this when installed the new ROM.
-Back up all your private apps (not system apps) with Android Commander (search the forums) to your PC.
-Use Recovery and wipe the followings:
1. Wipe Factory / Data reset
2. Wipe Dalvik cache
3. Wipe EXT partition
4. Wipe Battery Stat
Trust me this will save you a lot of hassle and time.
- Re-Installed all your Apps from Scratch using Adroid Commander. This always work best for me. I found less problem and less time consuming doing it this way.
Most of my problems occurred when I am too lazy to WIPE and install new ROM on top of the OLD one with out wiping dalvik and ext partition. An this make it more time consuming.
That's my experience. Hope this help.
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Couple of questions. Is wiping the ext partition wiping your SD card? Also, how do I wipe the battery stat? I just booted to my recovery mode but I didn't see that as an option. Maybe I need a new flashrec or something?
splayde said:
Couple of questions. Is wiping the ext partition wiping your SD card? Also, how do I wipe the battery stat? I just booted to my recovery mode but I didn't see that as an option. Maybe I need a new flashrec or something?
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what recovery rom are u running? and no wiping the ext partition is not wiping your SD card... just the partition you created..
dont wipe the battery but wipe the sd ext.
the sd ext only wipes what apps you have installed when you partition your sd card. it doesn't remove music, picutres, etc...
splayde said:
Couple of questions. Is wiping the ext partition wiping your SD card? Also, how do I wipe the battery stat? I just booted to my recovery mode but I didn't see that as an option. Maybe I need a new flashrec or something?
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The one I am using now is overclock. But the previous one that I used is "recovery-RA-heroc-v1.6.2-blue.img"
You might have the older version. Battery Stat Wipe is just reference for me every time I using a new ROM to see how the battery life is.
As mentioned above, wipe EXT partition will not wipe any pictures or data on the FAT32 of the SD card.
im having a similar issues i cant get my phone to stop restarting. ive wiped everything you can even repartitioned and it sill does it.
are we doing somehting wrong?
i have a thread i started not seeing this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684727
check the hardware
As someone suggested, please be sure to rollback to 1.6 to rule out a hardware problem.
I have a battery -- one of four in rotation -- that consistently reboots the phone after it draws down to 80% or so. This is probably the battery that I misplaced and didn't use for a few months. Before I pinned the problem down to this particular battery, I thought 2.1 was haywire, rebooting all the time. Once I pulled the battery out of rotation 2.1 became relatively stable again.

[Q] A2SD & Flashing New ROM

Hi Guys,
I've posted in a couple of threads but didn't let loose for fear of hijacking it, so putting my question here for the good fellows to respond to if possible.
Basically put I have a ROM installed (Kang-o-rama SP1) and have a 1GB A2SD partition courtesy of DarkTremor.
What I want to know is what process should I go through to flash a new ROM but retain that Ext partition? I'm not sure if this is even possible? Should the wipe wipe absolutely everything and then after flashing the ROM I should rebuild the EXT partition and then use Titanium Backup (or something similar) to restore my apps to that A2SD partition?
Can somebody please just tell me what the best process is (even if that means wipe everything, and recreate from scratch each time you flash.
I was under the impression you see that I could wipe everything but retain the actual partition (albeit wiped) to restore apps to after a new Flash?
Thanks in advance
Probably your best bet is to use Titanium. When you restore, look for the setting in the app that mentions something to the effect of attempting to integrate your backup into a different ROM (Sorry don't have app in front of me).
You can also use ADB to pull your sd-ext to your computer. Push it back when you have the new ROM set up with ext
adb pull /sd-ext c:\whateveryouwanttocallit
I use Amon Ra's Recovery but I think Clockwork Mod has an option to backup just your sd-ext.

[Q] cant install clean froyoMOD

Hi all, i installed the FroyoMOD 2.6.0 and its all good.
When i install one of the few next versions, i cant do a clean install.
After each installation, i still have all my apps and settings
Even after the three wipes.
Also when i try factory reset, still nothing.
The only thing i get after wipes or factory reset is to sign to my google account.
Any idea what can i do to get a pure clean install for the 2.7.0?
Tx, Shahar.
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shahar2k9 said:
Hi all, i installed the FroyoMOD 2.6.0 and its all good.
When i install one of the few next versions, i cant do a clean install.
After each installation, i still have all my apps and settings
Even after the three wipes.
Also when i try factory reset, still nothing.
The only thing i get after wipes or factory reset is to sign to my google account.
Any idea what can i do to get a pure clean install for the 2.7.0?
Tx, Shahar.
Sent from my SGT using my hands.
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Do you have an ext2 partition? Because I have one and I'm wondering if, even after a wipe, all of my apps are still there because of my ext2 partition.
Yeap, ext2.
Tx, Shahar.
Sent from my SGT using my hands.
I'm really wondering if because our apps are moved to the sd-card, if that is what is making all of our apps get reinstalled on the first boot of a new ROM.. It would mean I don't even need to restore from TB, it's doing it already
Try re-flashing the 2.2.1 sbf with vulnerable recovery, then achieving root, then updating to froyo mod. If you need help refer to this thread (only the beginning after you achieve root then apply the custom rom) or if mine is too difficult to comprehend, there is anotehr guide in this forum. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932196 good luck
Using apps2ext means AOR cannot wipe your your app data and dalvik-cache because it looks for these on the phone, not on the EXT partition of your card.
So, before you flash a new ROM, manually delete the /app, /app-private and /dalvik-cache folders in /system/sd (or /sd-ext where applicable) to wipe these files off.
You can use Root Explorer or any similar app to do so.
Or if you use Linux, just mount the EXT partition and delete the files within.

create ext4 for use with a2sd

hi,
i'm usin ra passion 2.2.1 and wan't to use a2sd from ics 4.0.3 evervolv. how can i create a part ext4?
Google:
"a2sd partition sd card".
Enjoy.
Try 4EXT recovery www.4ext.net
I think its the easiest way to create partition.
Or else you can do it in pc via partition managers(i use minitool partition wizard)
You can google it and also can search in youtube for video tutorials.
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thanks for your help, i've done it in recovery.
one question is left:
what happen if i format the partioned sd-card under windows and do a full wipe in preparation for installing a new rom. i've read sd-ext even survive a full wipe? what does that mean? stays the partition untouched when i format the sd-card with windows? and what about the apps in the partition? are they still there even after a full wipe and can i use them after flashing a new rom out of the box?
Glad u succeeded in partitioning
Now if you format the fat32 partition in windows using those partition tools doesnt affect ur ext. Ext stays untouched but all the data on fat32 will be wiped(so backup first to pc)
If u want to merge there is an option called merge for that.
There is an free windows software called sdformatter, that formats the entire sdcard(fat32+ext)
Hope i helped a bit :thumbup:
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ok. i wan't to format it with the windows internal function via right click. is it the same and the ext4 stays untouched?
Full wipe in recovery wipes SD-EXT too.
heinz gruber said:
ok. i wan't to format it with the windows internal function via right click. is it the same and the ext4 stays untouched?
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i do beleive that it should be untouched, cos normally windows cannot see the ext partition and hence only fat32 will be formatted
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ok. when ext4 stay untouched and i flash a new rom the apps are still in the launcher after flashing?
Jack_R1 said:
Full wipe in recovery wipes SD-EXT too.
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when i flash a new rom i use the format.zip form the xda user temasek which wipes system, boot, data and cache. so is sd-ext untouched when i use this file?
You insist on not listening and/or not understanding.
When you select "wipe data/factory reset" in custom recovery, EXT partition IS WIPED COMPLETELY. It doesn't stay.
I believe the same happens when using temasek's script, never bothered using it, so I can't say with 100% certainty.
If you don't wipe your phone and install a new ROM - be prepared for crashes of anything to everything, unless you install a ROM which is 100% compatible with what you have already - the next generation of the same ROM, usually.
If you're using A2SD and don't wipe EXT partition - you'll have crashes as soon as you boot, since system apps' data will be there (and wrong).
To keep your apps and their data, use one of the backup apps available in the Market, like Titanium Backup.
as Jack_R1 explained its always better to wipe everything(system,cache,dalvik n sdext) to be on safer side to avoid crashes n FCs.
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Temasek's Extreme Wipe does Data/System/Boot partitions but don't remember seeing ext in the list
However, as alluded too, I would format all outside phone with sdformatter or I think gparted, although never used that one
I thought I read a long time ago Windows formatter not recommended and do a full wipe not partial with whatever you use
Back up sdcard first
also, I believe you can use the Alignment Cool zip to get ext 4 from 3 on Amon and not lose anything--still backup
you do know MeDroid uses Ia2sd and different from a2sd on implementation
You don't need to wipe the regular FAT partition on SD card between flashes, because there's nothing there that loads automatically. And "wipe data/factory reset" option in recovery also wipes /sdcard/.android_secure.
hey guys, thanks for your answers i will keep them in mind.
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one more question:
if i uses temaseks script and the sd-ext is untouched and i flash a newer version of my rom, are the apps then still there after flashing and booting the updated system? or is there another step i've to do?
No, the apps aren't there anymore - or to be correct, the apps are there, their data is gone (because the app data doesn't reside on EXT partition, unless you use specific mounting methods).
When you flash an updated version of your ROM, just don't wipe anything at all unless the instructions specifically mention having to wipe before installing that version. That means - don't execute temasek's script at all.

[Q] Cleaning up the system?

I have flashed a bunch of different ROMs lately. I always wipe cache, dalvik and do a factory reset but maybe it may no longer be enough. Currently, my phone is rooted with Cocore and CWM. I am thinking about going to CM11. Last time I tried that, I noticed some stuff during setup was overlooked because it already seemed to be there. So I think some bits and pieces are left in the phone. Therefore, I want to "scrub" it before trying another ROM (thinking CM11 this time). I know the CM kernel comes with it.
questions:
1) Can I just mount and reformat system, data, cache and preload to clear everything out before flashing a new ROM?
2) Will the kernel be protected (in this case is CoCore) after reformating or should I worry about it?
3) When I flash the original stock 4.1.2 from Odin, does it completely reformat everything when it loads onto the system?
corvus.corax said:
I have flashed a bunch of different ROMs lately. I always wipe cache, dalvik and do a factory reset but maybe it may no longer be enough. Currently, my phone is rooted with Cocore and CWM. I am thinking about going to CM11. Last time I tried that, I noticed some stuff during setup was overlooked because it already seemed to be there. So I think some bits and pieces are left in the phone. Therefore, I want to "scrub" it before trying another ROM (thinking CM11 this time). I know the CM kernel comes with it.
questions:
1) Can I just mount and reformat system, data, cache and preload to clear everything out before flashing a new ROM?
2) Will the kernel be protected (in this case is CoCore) after reformating or should I worry about it?
3) When I flash the original stock 4.1.2 from Odin, does it completely reformat everything when it loads onto the system?
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Some information are stored on internal SD memory. Maybe it was there. Try to delete it. Backup SD to PC, format it - do factory reset and see if it is happening again.
shut_down said:
Some information are stored on internal SD memory. Maybe it was there. Try to delete it. Backup SD to PC, format it - do factory reset and see if it is happening again.
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If I backup the internal SD card to the PC and then restore after a reformat, won't the offending bits come back again?
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If I backup the internal SD card to the PC and then restore after a reformat, won't the offending bits come back again?
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I did not tell you to restore it. Keep it on PC, in case you need some of data from there. Maybe you erase some picture that you need or something like that. And not to blame me later. :fingers-crossed:

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