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Why would my hero be completely stable on 1.6, but reboot frequently on any 2.1 rom?

I am extremely frustrated at this point so I have decided to make a thread.
My hero has been a good phone and runs 1.5/1.6 roms without any problems, and has for 6+ months. However, as soon as the 2.1 leaks came around, I was eager to try them. NONE of them will work. I have tried 6 or 7 different versions. My phone will shut off very frequently, which essentially makes it unusable.
Has anyone else experienced this and was able to fix it, or otherwise have any advice for me?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

pixie dust!!!..jk
I have no idea why.. have u wiped everything and flashed?

spiritcrusher33 said:
pixie dust!!!..jk
I have no idea why.. have u wiped everything and flashed?
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Haha. Yeah man, factory reset + dalvik cache wipe. Would a bad SD card cause something like this?

sounds like you didn't properly wipe... once you wipe EVERYTHING.. (after a nandroid).. you shouldn't have problems installing any ROM whether it be 1.5, 1.6, 2.1, 4.2 (coming to the htc hero6 in 2013)
edit: you mentioned factory reset... are u doing the factory reset thats installed in the settings menu or are you wiping everything from recovery?

Have you tried to go back to 1.5/1.6 to see if the problem occurred? This might help eliminating the hardware issue.
Which ROM did you tried? The latest one that I ran which is stable (no over clocking) is Fresh 2.1.1, look for this thread title "[ROM] 05/14/10 | Fresh Rom 2.1.1 | Official Sprint RUU + The normal fresh rom goodies"
I have always do this when installed the new ROM.
-Back up all your private apps (not system apps) with Android Commander (search the forums) to your PC.
-Use Recovery and wipe the followings:
1. Wipe Factory / Data reset
2. Wipe Dalvik cache
3. Wipe EXT partition
4. Wipe Battery Stat
Trust me this will save you a lot of hassle and time.
- Re-Installed all your Apps from Scratch using Adroid Commander. This always work best for me. I found less problem and less time consuming doing it this way.
Most of my problems occurred when I am too lazy to WIPE and install new ROM on top of the OLD one with out wiping dalvik and ext partition. An this make it more time consuming.
That's my experience. Hope this help.

roadster92 said:
Have you tried to go back to 1.5/1.6 to see if the problem occurred? This might help eliminating the hardware issue.
Which ROM did you tried? The latest one that I ran which is stable (no over clocking) is Fresh 2.1.1, look for this thread title "[ROM] 05/14/10 | Fresh Rom 2.1.1 | Official Sprint RUU + The normal fresh rom goodies"
I have always do this when installed the new ROM.
-Back up all your private apps (not system apps) with Android Commander (search the forums) to your PC.
-Use Recovery and wipe the followings:
1. Wipe Factory / Data reset
2. Wipe Dalvik cache
3. Wipe EXT partition
4. Wipe Battery Stat
Trust me this will save you a lot of hassle and time.
- Re-Installed all your Apps from Scratch using Adroid Commander. This always work best for me. I found less problem and less time consuming doing it this way.
Most of my problems occurred when I am too lazy to WIPE and install new ROM on top of the OLD one with out wiping dalvik and ext partition. An this make it more time consuming.
That's my experience. Hope this help.
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Couple of questions. Is wiping the ext partition wiping your SD card? Also, how do I wipe the battery stat? I just booted to my recovery mode but I didn't see that as an option. Maybe I need a new flashrec or something?

splayde said:
Couple of questions. Is wiping the ext partition wiping your SD card? Also, how do I wipe the battery stat? I just booted to my recovery mode but I didn't see that as an option. Maybe I need a new flashrec or something?
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what recovery rom are u running? and no wiping the ext partition is not wiping your SD card... just the partition you created..

dont wipe the battery but wipe the sd ext.
the sd ext only wipes what apps you have installed when you partition your sd card. it doesn't remove music, picutres, etc...

splayde said:
Couple of questions. Is wiping the ext partition wiping your SD card? Also, how do I wipe the battery stat? I just booted to my recovery mode but I didn't see that as an option. Maybe I need a new flashrec or something?
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The one I am using now is overclock. But the previous one that I used is "recovery-RA-heroc-v1.6.2-blue.img"
You might have the older version. Battery Stat Wipe is just reference for me every time I using a new ROM to see how the battery life is.
As mentioned above, wipe EXT partition will not wipe any pictures or data on the FAT32 of the SD card.

im having a similar issues i cant get my phone to stop restarting. ive wiped everything you can even repartitioned and it sill does it.
are we doing somehting wrong?
i have a thread i started not seeing this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684727

check the hardware
As someone suggested, please be sure to rollback to 1.6 to rule out a hardware problem.
I have a battery -- one of four in rotation -- that consistently reboots the phone after it draws down to 80% or so. This is probably the battery that I misplaced and didn't use for a few months. Before I pinned the problem down to this particular battery, I thought 2.1 was haywire, rebooting all the time. Once I pulled the battery out of rotation 2.1 became relatively stable again.

Nexus One Rom/Memory Issues

Hey guys, I have a memory issue with my Nexus One when it comes to available storage space. The rom available memory seems to get lower and lower everytime I flash a rom than the previous time. When I load roms like CM6 or Kang-o-Rang or MicroMod Supercircle 2.7 or any others I have 4-16 MB available and nothing has installed yet. I usually use A2SD EXT3 for these but now its extremely difficult to do anything when booting with so little space to begin with. A week ago, on most roms I have well around 150 MB free before installing anything. What may have caused this issue? I even tried booting CM6 with a different SD card not partitioned for A2SD and wiping everything and same result and now I really can't install anything. So is my phone faulty or is there something I can do? I am currently running recovery Amon RA 1.7.0.1 and issues seemed to have come up since using this recovery. I was using Clockwork Mod latest one before this a few days ago.
Any ideas?

Have you been wiping data + cache each time you flash?

Make sure you're calculating data space and not system space (which can be as low as it gets to be, it doesn't matter).

codesplice said:
Have you been wiping data + cache each time you flash?
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I have wiped, cleared cache, delvik many many times. I suspect that the wipe is not working properly. I have tried two different recoveries and nothing works. My available space now running on Nexus FRF91 stock with root only I have 53.64 MB free. I have installed no third party apps yet whatsoever. I have not even logged in to google yet because it will download all my apps again. I have rebooted as well. I think theres an issue with my device and memory. Should I call HTC or my warranty is void?

Sounds like a weird problem, I would've tried to wipe a time or two more. I just wiped my device after flashing nightlies for the last two months without wiping and I noticed I had 170MB free when I booted up with a few apps installed.

I agree with SBS_. It sounds like the wipe isn't doing the job properly. Try to do it in all the possible ways (wiping through the ROM - using "Factory Reset" option, wiping through recovery - clearing data, cache and Dalvik-cache, and wiping through ADB command line), see if it changes anything.

Jack_R1 said:
I agree with SBS_. It sounds like the wipe isn't doing the job properly. Try to do it in all the possible ways (wiping through the ROM - using "Factory Reset" option, wiping through recovery - clearing data, cache and Dalvik-cache, and wiping through ADB command line), see if it changes anything.
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I've tried everything except ADB command line. I will have to read into doing that as I am unsure what to do. I have wiped from recovery and through the rom at least 15 times each! lol

When you load a new ROM, did you try to use Root Explorer to see what's on your DATA partition? (under directory /data).

Jack_R1 said:
When you load a new ROM, did you try to use Root Explorer to see what's on your DATA partition? (under directory /data).
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Great idea. Actually I have but not sure what suspicious files I should be looking to delete. I do own root explorer so any suggestions would be great. Thanks!

timahawk said:
Great idea. Actually I have but not sure what suspicious files I should be looking to delete. I do own root explorer so any suggestions would be great. Thanks!
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I have this exact issue. I know how to wipe. I have gone as far as reloading HBoot and placing the stock EPF30 image. I have gone thru using clockwork and Amon. I know how to do factory resets. I know how to go to storage options with clockwork and format all partition options. I have spent months on this. Below is a readout, after blowing away everything.
~ # du -hc /data
du -hc /data
2.0K /data/lost+found
4.0K /data
4.0K total
~ # df -h
df -h
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 192.9M 0 192.9M 0% /dev
/dev/block/mtdblock5 196.3M 109.5M 86.8M 56% /data
~ #
Another user that I have been working with has the exact issues as the user here and me. He contacted HTC. They are replacing his N1. There is something weird going on with some of these units. Just like a few months back, no one knew anything about the bad boot blocks issue causing many developers to change their ROM installs to accommodate those users with this issue. This low space on /data issue is another one that sooner or later will start to show up more and more, IMHO. For instance, at best using either Evils Sense Roms or MicroMods Hybrid sense Roms, I have 23MB free on initial install. This is after basically wiping formatting, resettings factory Data etc etc. At best, lets say using Enoms latest AOSP, I have maybe 75Mb free Internal memory, after initial install and NO applications downloaded installed on my part.
I really wish that folks here and on other threads would start to take this issue a little more seriously than basically saying a user isn't properly wiping his setup prior to an install. I have my beloved N1 since third week of January this year. Never had a problem with rooting, installing any of the original CM, or Paul M stuff from the early days here and on their Kitchen setups. Something has basically changed to cause these issues on a number of Nexus one setups. I have root explorer too and no manner of deleteing, via changing partition permissions from RO to RW makes any difference after wiping, formatting whatever prior to a fresh clean install of any current ROM.

I have approximately the same issue. I can't install anything..
Even after a full wipe of /data and all caches, I installed latest nightly-219-passion and the only possible way to install apps is by manually typing the adb push commands in commandline. It DOES NOT WORK using Market, File Manager, Titaniumbackup, ....
When I nandroid restore I have all my apps back but still CANNOT install any new apps using Market, File Manager, Titaniumbackup, ....
I already tried the fix_permissions script in both Amon_RA and RomManager but without success. I have system:system permissions on /data.
Is there a way to wipe /system aswell prior to an install, or does that happen when you flash a .zip?

Saphroxx said:
I have approximately the same issue. I can't install anything..
Even after a full wipe of /data and all caches, I installed latest nightly-219-passion and the only possible way to install apps is by manually typing the adb push commands in commandline. It DOES NOT WORK using Market, File Manager, Titaniumbackup, ....
When I nandroid restore I have all my apps back but still CANNOT install any new apps using Market, File Manager, Titaniumbackup, ....
I already tried the fix_permissions script in both Amon_RA and RomManager but without success. I have system:system permissions on /data.
Is there a way to wipe /system aswell prior to an install, or does that happen when you flash a .zip?
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How did you install the nightly. Even with my issues of 109Mb used up on data before I install anything, I have the latest nightly running along with latest Gapps and approx 50 of my own apps, with 79Mb free internal. I used clockwork recovery, then under storage options, you can run format options, on boot, system, data, cache, and SD-EXT and then under advanced, wipe dalvik-cache. I also added the data factory reset option also. I then clean installed the nightly. Then after an initial setup to just have it running, flashed the gapps. I did initially have approx 75Mb free Internal before the Gapps install. Then I went down to 53MB after gapps. I verified I had the correct settings in settings:Cyanogen Mod for the file system. I then flashed the latest Dark Tremor script, ran the commands for a2sd check, a2sd reinstall, a2sd zipalign and a2sd cachesd to move the dalvik-cache to sd. I have an EXT3 setup on my SD card. After moving Dalvik cache I jumped from 28Mb free to 79Mb free where it's pretty much staying now. Not as much as others that don't have the issues on /Data but at least useable.

[Q] About Darktremor A2SD

I am using the rom which is Darktremor A2SD compatible. Every time I change another rom then all apps will get force close. I need to reinstall those apps.
Is it normal?
Anyone can help me? Thanks!!

When you change ROMs, it's advised to ALWAYS WIPE EVERYTHING. That includes EXT partition.
If you want your programs to run after moving to another ROM - back them up using Titanium, change ROM, and restore them.

Jack_R1 said:
When you change ROMs, it's advised to ALWAYS WIPE EVERYTHING. That includes EXT partition.
If you want your programs to run after moving to another ROM - back them up using Titanium, change ROM, and restore them.
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Actually I'm not sure wiping EXT is necessary but certainly data, caches etc.. If problems continue, then wipe EXT too.
EXT should just have the APK's on it, they should just work.

If you're wiping /data, then you're left with APKs on EXT and no data structure for them in /data/data. Might be just the reason for force-closes.

Jack_R1 said:
If you're wiping /data, then you're left with APKs on EXT and no data structure for them in /data/data. Might be just the reason for force-closes.
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most roms detect and "re-install" the ext apps on first boot. All 200+ for me
Wiping ext would be the very last thing I'd do to solve a problem.

I used to do this. But i learned that it breaks some apps, and the built in rom restore function will restore any apps you got from the market. You need to do a full wipe when going to a new rom. upgrade may not need this, but some devs like king dont know how to make upgrades so all of his new versions require a full wipe.

Thanks you all! Seems that full wipe is necessary

[Q] Apps from older ROM still in SD card after flash

I flashed my i9000m from Stock ROM to a i9000 ROM, then to ICS (CM9). Everything works perfectly. No complaints. The only thing that bugs me is I still have 1GB left of space, when I have no access to the older apps that I had previously. Could they all be backed up somewhere?
I made sure to Data Wipe and Cache Wipe before installing ICS, before and after. Any ideas what I can do?
Thanks

Sepharite said:
I flashed my i9000m from Stock ROM to a i9000 ROM, then to ICS (CM9). Everything works perfectly. No complaints. The only thing that bugs me is I still have 1GB left of space, when I have no access to the older apps that I had previously. Could they all be backed up somewhere?
I made sure to Data Wipe and Cache Wipe before installing ICS, before and after. Any ideas what I can do?
Thanks
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data wipe means completely delete everything, i also flashed ICS yesterday but didn't data wipe, everything is on my sd card, check with a file manager

untamedkid said:
data wipe means completely delete everything, i also flashed ICS yesterday but didn't data wipe, everything is on my sd card, check with a file manager
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Yup. I data wiped, but I guess that didn't work properly.
Any other way to remove excess apps? I don't know which is which using file manager.

By "Data Wipe" it means deleting files from /data, /system, /datadata, /cache and dalvik cache. Not Internal_SD and External_SD, as it not picks which file is used or which not.
If you want to clear EVERYTHING (all data on phone - to make as "just bought") you need to tick Repartition in Odin. That removes every piece of info on your phone.

simply do factory reset/format before doing any firmware update and after update, after update u can delete all sd-card files or do format it by going into setting sd options.

create ext4 for use with a2sd

hi,
i'm usin ra passion 2.2.1 and wan't to use a2sd from ics 4.0.3 evervolv. how can i create a part ext4?

Google:
"a2sd partition sd card".
Enjoy.

Try 4EXT recovery www.4ext.net
I think its the easiest way to create partition.
Or else you can do it in pc via partition managers(i use minitool partition wizard)
You can google it and also can search in youtube for video tutorials.
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thanks for your help, i've done it in recovery.
one question is left:
what happen if i format the partioned sd-card under windows and do a full wipe in preparation for installing a new rom. i've read sd-ext even survive a full wipe? what does that mean? stays the partition untouched when i format the sd-card with windows? and what about the apps in the partition? are they still there even after a full wipe and can i use them after flashing a new rom out of the box?

Glad u succeeded in partitioning
Now if you format the fat32 partition in windows using those partition tools doesnt affect ur ext. Ext stays untouched but all the data on fat32 will be wiped(so backup first to pc)
If u want to merge there is an option called merge for that.
There is an free windows software called sdformatter, that formats the entire sdcard(fat32+ext)
Hope i helped a bit :thumbup:
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ok. i wan't to format it with the windows internal function via right click. is it the same and the ext4 stays untouched?

Full wipe in recovery wipes SD-EXT too.

heinz gruber said:
ok. i wan't to format it with the windows internal function via right click. is it the same and the ext4 stays untouched?
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i do beleive that it should be untouched, cos normally windows cannot see the ext partition and hence only fat32 will be formatted
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ok. when ext4 stay untouched and i flash a new rom the apps are still in the launcher after flashing?

Jack_R1 said:
Full wipe in recovery wipes SD-EXT too.
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when i flash a new rom i use the format.zip form the xda user temasek which wipes system, boot, data and cache. so is sd-ext untouched when i use this file?

You insist on not listening and/or not understanding.
When you select "wipe data/factory reset" in custom recovery, EXT partition IS WIPED COMPLETELY. It doesn't stay.
I believe the same happens when using temasek's script, never bothered using it, so I can't say with 100% certainty.
If you don't wipe your phone and install a new ROM - be prepared for crashes of anything to everything, unless you install a ROM which is 100% compatible with what you have already - the next generation of the same ROM, usually.
If you're using A2SD and don't wipe EXT partition - you'll have crashes as soon as you boot, since system apps' data will be there (and wrong).
To keep your apps and their data, use one of the backup apps available in the Market, like Titanium Backup.

as Jack_R1 explained its always better to wipe everything(system,cache,dalvik n sdext) to be on safer side to avoid crashes n FCs.
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Temasek's Extreme Wipe does Data/System/Boot partitions but don't remember seeing ext in the list
However, as alluded too, I would format all outside phone with sdformatter or I think gparted, although never used that one
I thought I read a long time ago Windows formatter not recommended and do a full wipe not partial with whatever you use
Back up sdcard first
also, I believe you can use the Alignment Cool zip to get ext 4 from 3 on Amon and not lose anything--still backup
you do know MeDroid uses Ia2sd and different from a2sd on implementation

You don't need to wipe the regular FAT partition on SD card between flashes, because there's nothing there that loads automatically. And "wipe data/factory reset" option in recovery also wipes /sdcard/.android_secure.

hey guys, thanks for your answers i will keep them in mind.
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one more question:
if i uses temaseks script and the sd-ext is untouched and i flash a newer version of my rom, are the apps then still there after flashing and booting the updated system? or is there another step i've to do?

No, the apps aren't there anymore - or to be correct, the apps are there, their data is gone (because the app data doesn't reside on EXT partition, unless you use specific mounting methods).
When you flash an updated version of your ROM, just don't wipe anything at all unless the instructions specifically mention having to wipe before installing that version. That means - don't execute temasek's script at all.