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What Memory should I use on Kaiser?

Hi guys, I am trying to buy a "SanDisk Mobile Premier 2GB Micro SD high speed", I believe it is fit for Kaiser, right?

Yep that'll work fine; be wary of buying on eBay as many tend to be fakes. Buy from a trusted reseller. I have got a 6GB for less than £40 delivered.

If your in the US, you can get great deals @ newegg.com
I purchased my 2gb microsd for 19.99, and 3 day ups is standard shipping.(costs like 3-5 dollars, on some cases its free shipping)

it supports cards over 2GB (Micro SDHC); i have a 2GB Micro SD for now, waiting for a 10-15GB model of the SDHC's to come out so i can dump all my music on it and ditch my iPod

dunno where ive got this from but i think/heard/got the vibe that the kaiser can only support up to 8gb sdhc?

that's great, I was think about a 2GB one but seems like it is not enough? Does Kaiser a good music/video player?

Slade8525 said:
it supports cards over 2GB (Micro SDHC); i have a 2GB Micro SD for now, waiting for a 10-15GB model of the SDHC's to come out so i can dump all my music on it and ditch my iPod
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ditch iPod, you are so cool man

niccyk said:
ditch iPod, you are so cool man
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i get maybe 45 minutes out of a charge on the iPod anymore; it will permanently reside in my car soon enough. Dont get me wrong, the iPod is great and all, but pocket space is at a premium for me, and between wallet, cell/PPC, keys, iPod, ciggs, lighter, and PassCards my pockets are stuffed. If 8GB is the most the Kaiser will support, then so be it.

Slade8525 said:
i get maybe 45 minutes out of a charge on the iPod anymore; it will permanently reside in my car soon enough. Dont get me wrong, the iPod is great and all, but pocket space is at a premium for me, and between wallet, cell/PPC, keys, iPod, ciggs, lighter, and PassCards my pockets are stuffed. If 8GB is the most the Kaiser will support, then so be it.
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Yes we all need a slim pocket...
By the way here comes a new question, I found that all micro SDHC are come with CLASS 2, that means 9mb/s on reading and 5mb/s on writing... a little bit slow? It that necessay to buy a MicroSD Ultra II ?

Slade8525 said:
i get maybe 45 minutes out of a charge on the iPod anymore; it will permanently reside in my car soon enough. Dont get me wrong, the iPod is great and all, but pocket space is at a premium for me, and between wallet, cell/PPC, keys, iPod, ciggs, lighter, and PassCards my pockets are stuffed. If 8GB is the most the Kaiser will support, then so be it.
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up to 32 GB sd card in ATT Tilt
DLD

if you have a 1-2GB micro SD card now, i'd wait a while unless your dying for memory space; they are bound to up the read/write speeds and lower the prices. I teach digital photography, a few years back read/write speeds of memory cards mattered a LOT, nowadays most D-SLR's have a huge cache so a superfast memory card isnt such a big deal, and the prices are fairly decent. My bet is in 6 months an 8 gig Ultra II Micro SDHC shouldnt be more than $60.
thats great to hear RacerX10; even 10-15GB should effectively mean i dont need to drag my laptop and iPod everywhere; 32GB means pretty much ALL my media with me.

SDHC spec is up to 32gig, today the max you can actually buy is 6gig. By the time you can actually buy a 32gig, we'll be using different phones like TyTN III

Slade8525 said:
if you have a 1-2GB micro SD card now, i'd wait a while unless your dying for memory space; they are bound to up the read/write speeds and lower the prices. I teach digital photography, a few years back read/write speeds of memory cards mattered a LOT, nowadays most D-SLR's have a huge cache so a superfast memory card isnt such a big deal, and the prices are fairly decent. My bet is in 6 months an 8 gig Ultra II Micro SDHC shouldnt be more than $60.
thats great to hear RacerX10; even 10-15GB should effectively mean i dont need to drag my laptop and iPod everywhere; 32GB means pretty much ALL my media with me.
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yep, let's be normal to the speed
your really professional on this topic

RemE said:
SDHC spec is up to 32gig, today the max you can actually buy is 6gig. By the time you can actually buy a 32gig, we'll be using different phones like TyTN III
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lol im aware of that, i'll just be happy to see the day i dont have to drag 14 lbs of PDA/MP3/PC crap around.

RemE said:
SDHC spec is up to 32gig, today the max you can actually buy is 6gig. By the time you can actually buy a 32gig, we'll be using different phones like TyTN III
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And the ATT Tiltless.......
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6GB Micro SDHCs are available - Sandisk seems to be th eonly real supplier at this moment. I'm sure others will have theirs out soon too. I just bought one from www.mydigitaldiscount.com in the US. Got it with no issues, and I've filled 4.5GB of it with music and video.
8GB MicroSDHCs are targeted for release probably around the end of the year. Again, Sandisk will be the first supplier.
No one has even announced an official "coming soon" statement for anything bigger than 8GB yet.

jomo25 said:
6GB Micro SDHCs are available - Sandisk seems to be th eonly real supplier at this moment. I'm sure others will have theirs out soon too. I just bought one from www.mydigitaldiscount.com in the US. Got it with no issues, and I've filled 4.5GB of it with music and video.
8GB MicroSDHCs are targeted for release probably around the end of the year. Again, Sandisk will be the first supplier.
No one has even announced an official "coming soon" statement for anything bigger than 8GB yet.
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So you think by Christmas we'l be seeign 8gb micro SDHC cards? should i wait till then and put off geting a 6gb card?

niccyk said:
that's great, I was think about a 2GB one but seems like it is not enough? Does Kaiser a good music/video player?
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Kaiser is a real good video player(Using TCPMP), but it also depends on the format.
My favorite, and In my opinion, the best format is .m4v (You may need a special convertor for that)
Other formats are either 2 big, or has really choppy playback.
Also you should increase your font and glyph cache to 32768 (makes things more responsive/ smoother)

the SDA SD Card Association has never quite said the 'maximum' size of a Micro SD; there is a theoretical maximum of 32 GB, hence the 'limit' at the moment, which IMO means merely a new 'type' of SD card in a year or two. as for hardware that reads them, there likely is a maximum size they can read.
Currently Samsung has an 8GB Micro SD in development, Kingston and Sandisk are sure to be right behind anyways. besides, its just a memory card; i have piles of 128MB Memory Stick Pro Duo's that i bought for my Sony S710a when it first came out, and 128MB was still a fairly sizeable card for a cell phone; now we're talking 6-8+ gigs...

ekw said:
Kaiser is a real good video player(Using TCPMP), but it also depends on the format.
My favorite, and In my opinion, the best format is .m4v (You may need a special convertor for that)
Other formats are either 2 big, or has really choppy playback.
Also you should increase your font and glyph cache to 32768 (makes things more responsive/ smoother)
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That's great advise, I used to play .AVI with TCPMP and it works fine but haven't try to increase the cache, due to my Vario I is limited by its memory

12 GB microSDHC cards out

It was not so long ago that we discussed the arrival of 8GB microSDHC cards. Now the 12GB version is out already!
http://www.sandisk.com/Corporate/PressRoom/PressReleases/PressRelease.aspx?ID=4079
http://www.memorysuppliers.com/sa12trmimmec.html

eaglesteve said:
It was not so long ago that we discussed the arrival of 8GB microSDHC cards. Now the 12GB version is out already!
http://www.sandisk.com/Corporate/PressRoom/PressReleases/PressRelease.aspx?ID=4079
http://www.memorysuppliers.com/sa12trmimmec.html
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Not worth the money though Eaglesteve. I could buy TWO 8gb Sandisk SDHCs with free postage for 37 dollars less than that. 179 dollars for 12gb versus 60 dollars for 8gb is a total rip off for an extra 4gb in my opinion. Hopefully the price will drop soon though.

leoni1980 said:
Not worth the money though Eaglesteve. I could buy TWO 8gb Sandisk SDHCs with free postage for 37 dollars less than that. 179 dollars for 12gb versus 60 dollars for 8gb is a total rip off for an extra 4gb in my opinion. Hopefully the price will drop soon though.
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Hey leoni, where can you get the 8 gigs for that cheap, and does it come with the mini sd adapter? Oh and by the way you make total sense as usual. Way over priced. But thanks for the info Eaglesteve.

tootallk2000 said:
Hey leoni, where can you get the 8 gigs for that cheap, and does it come with the mini sd adapter? Oh and by the way you make total sense as usual. Way over priced. But thanks for the info Eaglesteve.
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Www.play.com. It's a sandisk and comes with an sd card adaptor and a usb sdhc card reader. Ive tested my sdhc card in 3 different card adaptors from non-sdhc cards and they work fine anyway so you just need a microsdhc to minisd adaptor from ebay or elsewhere for the athena if you dont have one already....

Any products bought by "early adopters" are more expensive. It will come down in price. When I bought my 4 GB SD cards for AUD300 few years ago it was a steal because the 512MB was going for more than 100 then. Now, we looked at that and laugh. The same goes for Athena - because I bought it very soon after it was released, I paid probably 50% more than what could be had today.

eaglesteve said:
Any products bought by "early adopters" are more expensive. It will come down in price. When I bought my 4 GB SD cards for AUD300 few years ago it was a steal because the 512MB was going for more than 100 then. Now, we looked at that and laugh. The same goes for Athena - because I bought it very soon after it was released, I paid probably 50% more than what could be had today.
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You're right Eaglesteve, although in this instance I think i'll be a late adopter of 12gb cards. I can cope without that extra 4gb for now, 8 is more than enough for me now anyway!

16gb micro sdhc cards are about to be released too! Check out www.symbian-freak.com for the article

Already??
I thought they would come 4th quarter this year...
Nevermind,the article doesn't say a word about availabilty.
On the other hand,the pix are proof that those things are existing already...

i did the same with my psp and pro duo's. In 2005, the best you could get even a 1gb for was about 60 quid on ebay, and I got a 2gb from singapore for 85 quid. these days, only 2 and a bit years later, its about a tenner
Lol at electronics
Rory

eaglesteve said:
It was not so long ago that we discussed the arrival of 8GB microSDHC cards. Now the 12GB version is out already!
http://www.sandisk.com/Corporate/PressRoom/PressReleases/PressRelease.aspx?ID=4079
http://www.memorysuppliers.com/sa12trmimmec.html
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Appreciate this...ordering now.

ltxda said:
Appreciate this...ordering now.
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Would you mind posting your SKtools benchmark test for us when you get it please?

eaglesteve said:
Would you mind posting your SKtools benchmark test for us when you get it please?
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Don't mind at all....i should get it a few days after March 10th. Just shoot me a reminder in case I forget.

For all those considering the 12gb micro sdhc cards, the 16gb cards will be released also in 2-3 weeks, with 32 GB models (rather incredibly) arriving in the next few months. Sandisk seem to be ahead of the mark here, and the whole 32gb Athena project could instantly be put on hold: why not take out the mircodrive altogether to save on batteries! it'll be superfast to stick all your films on a 32gb card with the supplied card adaptor and reader, so screw activesync/wm5torage.
32gb cards should work in any sdhc compatible device, since the manufacturer's given capacity for the device's card reader is invariably based on current size limitations. There is no reason why a 32gb card wouldn't work in an Athena so this could be quite a big step for the device, and mobile devices in general.

I disagree that the 32GB project could go on hold. There is a 16GB SSD that costs ~$110, and in 6 months or so, there will be a 32GB SSD out by at least one manufacturer.
Couple that with a 32GB micro SDHC card, then you have an Athena with 64GB, that costs much less than a Sony UX

keithwwalker said:
I disagree that the 32GB project could go on hold. There is a 16GB SSD that costs ~$110, and in 6 months or so, there will be a 32GB SSD out by at least one manufacturer.
Couple that with a 32GB micro SDHC card, then you have an Athena with 64GB, that costs much less than a Sony UX
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I think there a people out there who might still want to take their device apart to replace it with an ssd and risk bricking their device (and certainly shred their warranty) but i imagine most would prefer to use a card as the transfer speed of a card in a reader vs software transfer over activesync/wm5toerage file is huge.

By this time of the year, my warranty is already about to expire anyway. If there is well documentated instruction by a more hardware oriented poster, I'm willing to take the risk of opening it up.
I prefer to install all my program on a non-removeable storage, so that I can swap the removeable one in and out at will for even more storage.
Plus, I expect savings in battery life, access speed (SSD should be quite a bit faster than the microdrive, I expect), and reduced weight are all attractions. It would also certainly make Athena surpass X7510 in everyway other than the keyboard. Just imagine, we have larger storage and we still manage to keep all the nice hardware buttons.

That's half the fun is trumping HTC at their own game!
Imagine, when the 16gb 7510 hits the streets and some tech blogs instantly declares is obsolescent because someone has jammed a 32gb ssd into a 7500/7501.
Maybe then HTC will wake up and juice up the 75xx series to have great video performance, and other improvements.

Any update yet on the availability of these larger storage cards? I can't find any 12gb microSDHC for sale online apart from preorders. And if 16gb are only 3 weeks behind, I'll wait for those.
Thanks
Jon

Found some info here... http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2281491,00.asp
In part, it says (re SanDisk):
Product-wise, the company made no major announcements at CTIA, but company reps did confirm to us that the previously announced 12GB microSD size will not be released. Instead, this summer the company is going to "jump to the next obvious size," which is 16GB.
Apparently the 12 giggers previously 'available' are all only pre-orders?

I've had a few cards where it would only let me write to half of the card and the other half was corrupt. I suggest every time you buy a flash mem card you write to the full amount right away to test it. Because sometimes you never get around to using the whole thing until way later and then is when you realize it's faulty. 12gig copy time will be insane.

32 gb memory card for htc hd2

as u see my title i am looking for a memory card for my htc hd2 . which type of do i need to buy it and also i want to buy class 6 where can i find it and it has to be approximetly 50-60 paund.
thanks...

you going to be looking about £100 for a start

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640218
Indeed, expect £100, release in April, class isn't announced yet but I guess it will be 2 or 4 max.
So you should be looking for 2x16GB instead.

whats the use of 2x 16gb when theres only one microsd slot?

soulstice said:
whats the use of 2x 16gb when theres only one microsd slot?
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You swap em round

I'm looking for a 1tb card, I've got about £3 is that okay?
someone get me one! Bah HTC will have to fix this... etc etc

I have a 16GB Class 6 and find it helps keep every interaction on the HD2 snappy. I install all of my programs on the card and play large movie files (600mb-1.8GB).
Swapping between all these programs and movies and phone calls etc really flies. I originally tried a 2GB class 2 and a 4GB class 4 and found they were ok but not as responsive when you had lots going on.
So my choice was 8GB,16GB or 32GB class 6. The price hike between 16GB to 32GB was significant and the steps between the loweer capacities were quite close so I went for the highest capacity card I could afford.
If you look around you can get them at "reasonable" prices.
The added advantage of a class 6 is when I plug the card into my PC I can transfer large (movie) files quite quickly and the speed difference is more noticeable when doing this on lower class cards.

fards said:
I'm looking for a 1tb card, I've got about £3 is that okay?
someone get me one! Bah HTC will have to fix this... etc etc
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LOL £3??? is there a free one available?

actually i'm happy with my kingston 16gb class 10 card
was sceptic at first but it holds up to what they say min 10mb/s transfer

you will be lucky to get a 32gb for around 50 to 60. i have 10 sandisk 32gb microsd for £65 each on order from HK and genuine. These retail for 80 - 90 in the uk. Not sure how much the trade is in the uk (unless i check supplier details) but the profit margin on memory cards is extremely small.
For the money your willing to spend you are better of doing what someone else suggested and that is using several 16gb cards.

A|ex said:
you will be lucky to get a 32gb for around 50 to 60. i have 10 sandisk 32gb microsd for £65 each on order from HK and genuine. These retail for 80 - 90 in the uk. Not sure how much the trade is in the uk (unless i check supplier details) but the profit margin on memory cards is extremely small.
For the money your willing to spend you are better of doing what someone else suggested and that is using several 16gb cards.
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did they give you an estimate on when to receive those cards?

due in end of the month but will be mid next month i receive them

[url]http://www.mobymemory.com/products/SanDisk/Sandisk-32gb-Micro-SD-SDHC-PRE-ORDER.
32gig..... £95! what do you need that much memory for!?

Class 10 or 6
HELLO Friends
i would like to know whats the difference bet the class 6 or class 10 memory card?
& for 16GB card, what u prefere? (i mean which mark)
thanx a lot

fards
That is hilarious, I was laughing for ages! How true it is though.

WOW, why would you need so much pron on your mobile ? LOL.

i heard someone posting about pr0n?
where is it? are there girls in it?
<°(((<

set aside the childish remarks from members the same question could be asked about your hard disk in your machine, why do you have a hard disk larger than a few GB, why bother going 500GB, 1TB+ etc. The same answer applies to having a larger memory card, but for example TomTom maps of europe and america can be larger than 10GB alone, music collection can be large and some people like to use their phone as mobile storage instead of hotswapping usb pens.
I have filled up my 16gb memory cards with just that music (because i like to use my phone as a mp3 player) and the next step from 16 is 32.
DR_ASHK: The higher the class the faster the write speed but this also can be limited by the hardware / software.

A|ex said:
you will be lucky to get a 32gb for around 50 to 60. i have 10 sandisk 32gb microsd for £65 each on order from HK and genuine. These retail for 80 - 90 in the uk. Not sure how much the trade is in the uk (unless i check supplier details) but the profit margin on memory cards is extremely small.
For the money your willing to spend you are better of doing what someone else suggested and that is using several 16gb cards.
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Link to the retailer?

No link to supplier and hardly any of them have a web site etc, they are all based in HK Sham Shui Po, Golden Computer Arcade the only place to get good deals and contacts (also where a lot of people see new comp tech stuff out in the wild).

Class 10 MicroSD?

I know that there's been several threads about memory for HD2 before, however I just noticed that Kingston has made some 16 GB Class 10 cards.
That means that the read speed is 10 mb/s which is pretty darn fast compared to most Class 2 cards, reading only 2 mb/s.
But ofcourse, these cards is a lot more expensive (about 60%) so my question is if it is worth paying extra for that speed? Will the HD2 even be able to read that fast from the card?
Here's a link to a retailer, its danish sorry, but you should be able to figure out what it says.
http://www.getmore.dk/detalje-side.aspx?ProductGuid=SDC10/16GB-2ADP

well i got myself a 16gb class 10 card (Kingston) and am very happy with it.
i did a small test with a couple of high quality movies on all my 3 16gb cards (classes 2/4/10) and on the class 2 i get small freezes in playback, on the class 4 virtually no freezes and with the class 10 absolutely no freeze at all
this testing was done by myself and i am pleased with the class 10 card (and secretly wish i had one with 32gigs)
PS: All cards had the exact same data on them

can the HD2 even reach class 10 speeds?

A|ex said:
can the HD2 even reach class 10 speeds?
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i dont think it exeeds class 6, however i dont have a class 6 card around
there is however a difference between classes 2, 4 against class 10
the reason of me getting a class 10 was simple, they didnt have the class 6 i ordered left and couldnt resupply so i got the opportunity to get this one at a reduced price instead, which i of course accepted
big files are best copied over via usb adapter/card reader anyway (as it goes much faster) and there you will love the class 10 by lengths

Good choice, atleast you can look at replacing the phone in the future and still have a fast enough card or use the card in something else if you need the speed. was the class 10 expensive?

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... was the class 10 expensive?
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depends, for swiss standards the full price is a fairly reasonable 129.00 swiss francs which would be approx 80€ or so. I did however get it a bit cheaper than that

I reckon there are some tests involved by tokolosh, and that must mean something
But if I had to talk with my own experience... I'd say class 10 microsd's are useless to say the least.
My test was simple:
1) got a class 2 sandisk 16gb off singapore or something for ~30euro
2) put inside an SD adapter and tested with my linux laptop, got 7M/s writes and little less reads
3) put inside the HD2, and under Seven I get little more than 3M/s writes when connected in disk mode via USB, and surprisingly more than 7M/s reads
4) never had any lags of sorts during video playback, and I usually watch tv series on my phone, which have higher bitrate than movies (~170MB for ~20 mins).
So I'd say that as long as it's sandisk, anything class4 or higher is partially or totally useless

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depends, for swiss standards the full price is a fairly reasonable 129.00 swiss francs which would be approx 80€ or so. I did however get it a bit cheaper than that
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Would you mind sharing your source and price? I find them for about CHF110 on toppreise.ch...

kilrah said:
Would you mind sharing your source and price? I find them for about CHF110 on toppreise.ch...
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Here you go 129.00 Swiss Francs and delivered to your doorstep (if in switz.)

It's not that one I was asking, as I said I had sources at 110...
But you said
Tokolosh said:
I did however get it a bit cheaper than that
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and this is where it would get interesting

Best place to buy microSDHC cards (best deals)

Anyone have any thoughts on this? Also is using a fast class 6 card actually noticeable when using the nexus one? Currently I have a class 2.
For example, sometimes it takes a long time to load up the gallery. Also will the phone be able to use the extra speeds once cyanogen has this 720p video recording incorporated? Or is the speed just noticeable when transfering between devices.

I picked up a Class 2 16GB SanDisk card through Amazon for $28. You can probably find them cheaper on eBay, but there are a lot of frauds out there. At least I know if I have any trouble Amazon will stand behind it.

tardman91 said:
I picked up a Class 2 16GB SanDisk card through Amazon for $28. You can probably find them cheaper on eBay, but there are a lot of frauds out there. At least I know if I have any trouble Amazon will stand behind it.
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...and just to add that Class 2 is simply a MINIMUM rating. Many Sandisk Class 2's read/write faster than lesser manufacturer's Class 6 cards.

I'm going to mortgage the farm and do a 32 gb SanDisk from Newegg @ $75. My dream of dragging FLACs to my phone and listening is fully lucid. Goodbye little iRiver . . . I'll keep you around as a recorder backup!

What is a FLAC? And can you report back with a speed test once you get it...at $75 I'm sure its a class 2 right..
blastroid said:
I'm going to mortgage the farm and do a 32 gb SanDisk from Newegg @ $75. My dream of dragging FLACs to my phone and listening is fully lucid. Goodbye little iRiver . . . I'll keep you around as a recorder backup!
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dlb92 said:
What is a FLAC? And can you report back with a speed test once you get it...at $75 I'm sure its a class 2 right..
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FLAC is an open source file format for audio. It stands for Free Lossless Audio Codex. Once you listen to audio in FLAC format, it's hard to go back to MP3!