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Apple/Iphone banning 5000 apps from its stores

Please Apple continue this practice cause it is just making other brands stronger in the market place
Apple is causing a stir in the iPhone community by removing over 5000 apps from the app store due to what they deem as inappropriate content. Apple has long been known for being protective over what gets onto the app store, but never before have they rejected or removed so many apps at once. This recent course of action has caused Apple to receive a great deal of criticism from iPhone users, app developers, and the media.
The official reason of Apple banning the apps is due to what they deem “sexually inappropriate.” While some of these apps are very mature in nature, some are just joke apps that wanted a cheap laugh. In response to the removal of the apps, Apple has posted new guidelines to submitting apps. Here they are as reported by MobileCrunch:
1. No images of women in bikinis ( I personally found this rule highly hypocritical as the SI swimsuit app is a top app on iTunes.)
2. No images of men in bikinis
3. No skin
4. No silhouettes
5. No sexual connotations or innuendo.
6. Nothing that can be sexually arousing
7. No apps will be approved that in any way imply sexual content
I personally, am highly against this stance Apple has taken. Censorship on any level is wrong for a person‘s development, and bad for a society. I may not have agreed with what the banned apps had shown, but they shouldn’t have been banned. We can not live in a society where an entity, whether it be governmental or a business conglomerate, can tell us what we can and can’t watch, listen to, or do, especially when no one is being hurt because of it. Once that line is crossed, we can never go back, and our democratic society we live in will become nothing short of a socialist police state.
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It was about time. These stupid apps spammed the store. If you gotta filter what gets on your hardware, might as well wanna do it right.

N1c0_ds said:
It was about time. These stupid apps spammed the store. If you gotta filter what gets on your hardware, might as well wanna do it right.
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Well, I don't mind using Mabilo Wallpapers on Android every now and again for a pretty lady in a bikini once in a while. Soooo, yeah. That would suck. Oh well, it's Apple doing this, and not Android.

N1c0_ds said:
It was about time. These stupid apps spammed the store. If you gotta filter what gets on your hardware, might as well wanna do it right.
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whooosh over your head this went...
Your missing the point, you bought the phone and it is none of Apple business what software you put on it...They will do a so-called update and wipe out any thing "THEY" do not approve of... get it now ?

Source ?
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F2504x4 said:
whooosh over your head this went...
Your missing the point, you bought the phone and it is none of Apple business what software you put on it...They will do a so-called update and wipe out any thing "THEY" do not approve of... get it now ?
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As long as it can be jailbroken, I don't mind. They can restrict their device as much as they want until they start messing with the hackers. That just ain't correct!
This also goes for Android and every other OS.

if its true, hello big brother
but I don't want to see innuendo or sex apps - unless im looking for it

Chainfire said:
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http://www.google.com/search?q=Appl...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
pick one , google has lots of them..
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2. No images of men in bikinis
6. Nothing that can be sexually arousing
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Interesting point, 6. Do you know how many 'sexual deviants' there are? I'd bet this would ban the iPhone itself for half it's users
Also, does this imply the Apple application review committe finds men in bikini arousing? And what about men without bikinis?

Most iPhone users love to lube it up and insert it, so I would assume there are a lot disappointed by this news.

^LOL...Apple will next have to remove the 'vibrator' option

galaxys said:
^LOL...Apple will next have to remove the 'vibrator' option
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Good one

I guess there's no longer "An App For That".
With Apple attempting to use the DCMA as grounds for prosecution of folks who "jailbreak" their (being Apples) devices, this could be a competitive turning point.

hilaireg said:
I guess there's no longer "An App For That".
With Apple attempting to use the DCMA as grounds for prosecution of folks who "jailbreak" their (being Apples) devices, this could be a competitive turning point.
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Considering the date of the articles, i do not think they will be enforcing any time soon..but IF they did it would be akin to shooting yourself in the foot because of anther runner catching you and then passing you.
from the link above
February 12th, 2009
Apple Says iPhone Jailbreaking is Illegal
Legal Analysis by Fred von Lohmann
Jailbreaking an iPhone constitutes copyright infringement and a DMCA violation, says Apple in comments filed with the Copyright Office as part of the 2009 DMCA triennial rulemaking. This marks the first formal public statement by Apple about its legal stance on iPhone jailbreaking.
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Well, I'm not one for sex or kinky apps, joke wise or not, I don't see the need or point...personal opinion.
However, I do believe that as Apple are putting apps on THEIR store, then they have every right as to what does and doesn't go on their store.
This is a benefit of Windows phones (so far, also depening on WP7!) if we want a program we can go make it and freely distribute it without it needing to be on a store page only.
Apple, annoyingly, have always had that level of control over their customers, it's what happens when you buy one of their products

MalekoUK said:
Well, I'm not one for sex or kinky apps, joke wise or not, I don't see the need or point...personal opinion.
However, I do believe that as Apple are putting apps on THEIR store, then they have every right as to what does and doesn't go on their store.
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Which would be a fine thing, if you only had one store to buy your clothes from. If they don't allow hats, you can't have them without meeting someone in an alley way and getting a bootleg hat.

Apple patent the flash (one for the photographers on the forum maybe?)

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/26/apple-attempts-to-patent-a-smarter-camera-flash/
I honestly am gob-smacked at apple.
How can they even try to patent something, that Nikon/cannon and the likes have been doing for going on 30 years?
Isn't this what TTL flash systems are? Or flashguns with built in light metering?!
Its not a new system, Its just never been used (or needed) in phones.
How long until Apple apply for a patent for "The intake of air, consisting of gasses (namely oxygen) to survive" ?

lonelykatana said:
How long until Apple apply for a patent for "The intake of air, consisting of gasses (namely oxygen) to survive" ?
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Or until they Patent 'The use of electricity in a mobile device'
Anyway, I can't belive there trying to patent a flash I mean its a light a small light

I want some of that stuff Steve is taking. I swear, a FLASH? I think just to rebell against apple I will never use my flash again...phone and camera.

jaszek said:
I want some of that stuff Steve is taking. I swear, a FLASH? I think just to rebell against apple I will never use my flash again...phone and camera.
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lol Good luck with that Does anyone know who created the retina display ?? Or have they already patented that too

I know they filed a patent for touch screen and for the keyboard with the pop-up letters.

They might as well patent the camera......
Sent from my froyo lacking Vibrant.

To be fair, they're not trying to patent the flash, they're trying to patent a scanning flash.
Think of it as a spotlight instead of a flash, which shines over the subject changing its intensity as required.

They're also trying to trademark the use of the word "pod" when it comes to using it in technology. I think Apple have gone a little to crazy... this word has been used in existance on the net/life in general for god knows how long... they have issued a briefing paper to the courts against a start up company who have been developing something they call a "video pod" which is some sort of projector, for the last 10 years!
whiskey tango.......
<sarcasm>I might see if I can trademark the use of the word "cast" in terms of the internet and technology...</sarcasm>

captainstu72 said:
They're also trying to trademark the use of the word "pod" when it comes to using it in technology. I think Apple have gone a little to crazy... this word has been used in existance on the net/life in general for god knows how long... they have issued a briefing paper to the courts against a start up company who have been developing something they call a "video pod" which is some sort of projector, for the last 10 years!
whiskey tango.......
<sarcasm>I might see if I can trademark the use of the word "cast" in terms of the internet and technology...</sarcasm>
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"Easy" group, who own EasyJet, EasyBus, EasyCar but strangely not the obviously popular EasyWomen often threaten other companies using Easy and even EZ in their names, hoping the massive legal cost needed to defend against them would scare most companies into submission.
At least when Intel tried to trademark the letter P they were told to P off and so came up with Pentium.
The more people hear about Apple's bullyboy tactics the better. Think how much damage similar behaviour did to MS in the 80's and 90's, yet now when they buy a compettitor you hardly hear about it.
Apple are heading for a PR backlash in the future, most likely just after SJ leaves (again) if he has enough sense.

xaccers said:
To be fair, they're not trying to patent the flash, they're trying to patent a scanning flash.
Think of it as a spotlight instead of a flash, which shines over the subject changing its intensity as required.
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So its like a flash gun (i.e. changing intensity through built in metering, or TTL, focusing on the subject, and having the ability to change the direction of the flash?) but it doesn't actually flash?
Holy **** im confused now

lonelykatana said:
So its like a flash gun (i.e. changing intensity through built in metering, or TTL, focusing on the subject, and having the ability to change the direction of the flash?) but it doesn't actually flash?
Holy **** im confused now
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Current flashes that have built in metering still only produce one intensity of light.
So areas can still be under or over exposed.
What apple's idea sounds like it does is meter the entire subject rather than an average and scan the light over the subject adjusting the brightness accordingly, doing all that in the speed of a flash.

heck, ive heard apple wants to take legal action against anyone who jailbreaks their iphone. ipod touch, or ipad, because the high and mighty jobs does not approve. whats even scarier is awhile back i read on pocketnow.com that apple had submitted a patent request that would allow the iphone 4 to take pictures of whoever is holding it, and if it doesnt match up with the owner then it notifies the cops. itll even measure heartbeats and track you on gps. seriously, apple is starting to behave like a corporate version of Big Brother from george orwells "1984" book. apple is going needed an ass beating in the form of a legal case to put it back in its place. seriously apple, quit *****ing about everything just because you dont own and/or didnt invent it.

Soon Apple will file for a patent for patent filing.

jaszek said:
Soon Apple will file for a patent for patent filing.
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LOL

Samsung vs. Apple

Wow...Apple is really powerful! Apple took out Sammy in Australia. If Sammy wants to sell the Galaxy Tab 2 in AUS, they have to submit it to Apple for approval.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/01/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-sales-halted-in-australia-by-apple-suit/

-me like Android, in many ways,!! ..<

Original article:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...amsung-tablet-sales-in-australia-on-hold.html
Basically they've agreed not to sell or advertise it without giving 3 to Apple 7 days before they release it for sale in Oz.
So they can sell it as long as they comply with that agreement.
They save on advertising, drum up more interest, and are still able to release it on the planned date.
To recap:
Samsung are able to release it as planned but agreed not to advertise it before release date.
Three lucky apple employees get to play with the new tablet 7 days before everyone else.

Apple has some big stones. theyre probably going to look at why android has bigger market share and then copy it.
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Hi ! apple sux

MartyLK said:
Wow...Apple is really powerful! Apple took out Sammy in Australia. If Sammy wants to sell the Galaxy Tab 2 in AUS, they have to submit it to Apple for approval.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/01/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-sales-halted-in-australia-by-apple-suit/
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I know a couple of news papers that could do with your out-of-context, misrepresented, reporting of an Engadget story
Xaccers gives a much more accurate account.
The other thing not mentioned is that if Apple loose the case against Samsung then Apple have to pay damages to Samsung. Its basically a "gentlemens agreement" by the looks of it - and as said, Samsung get free advertising!

samsung all the way

android rocks

Looks like Sammy isn't bothered by Apple's concerns. Sammy intends to sell a different, non-violating, version of the Galaxy Tab in AUS from the restricted US version.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/02/samsung-will-release-galaxy-tab-10-1-in-australia-despite-apple/

So engadget not only don't bother to read the sourse article properly, but they also don't bother to read their own articles!
Both earlier artiles mention that Samsung planned to sell the Asia version not the US version in Oz.
And people thought News of the World journalists were unprofessional...

Whoa! Sammy is getting really, really bold. Sounds like they might get themselves in the sights of George Lucas if they continue with that attitude...lol
http://www.dailytech.com/Samsung+Cl...lian+Tablet+Sales+from+Apple/article22331.htm

what the **** apple?
know what, watch this video, and you will see apple is giant hypocrites
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq-e0getf4M
apple took features that have been on android since the freakin' g1

My 2 cents on Apple (the first "real" computer I programmed on was an Apple II in Assembly and Basic....). So much for my age...
- Great design - both industrial and interface-wise
- fabulous marketing and advertising - they could spin a leaky radioactive battery into a great new feature....got to hand it to them
- It just works
- Piss poor attitude and positioning (my way or the court)
- You want what? "User freedom" Llllloooooolllllll....User freedom means WE KNOW BEST, righty?
- Innovation ? Yeah, we get to define what that means (like callling putting a camera on a phone an "innovation" in 2010....)
Well, once you open up the gates by allowing software patents on stuff like "look and feel", you get what you asked for - and Apple "borrowed" quite a lot of *that* on the early macs from real old Xerox Parc work in the 60/70's....look up "Alan Kay", PARC, "Dan Ingalls", "Douglas Engelbart" and so on. So neither the look or the feel is really theirs.
****. I used the "A***" (hint: fruit from a tree which grows in orchards) word. May I get sued for unauthorized use of THAT?

acmbc said:
My 2 cents on Apple (the first "real" computer I programmed on was an Apple II in Assembly and Basic....). So much for my age...
- Great design - both industrial and interface-wise
- fabulous marketing and advertising - they could spin a leaky radioactive battery into a great new feature....got to hand it to them
- It just works
- Piss poor attitude and positioning (my way or the court)
- You want what? "User freedom" Llllloooooolllllll....User freedom means WE KNOW BEST, righty?
- Innovation ? Yeah, we get to define what that means (like callling putting a camera on a phone an "innovation" in 2010....)
Well, once you open up the gates by allowing software patents on stuff like "look and feel", you get what you asked for - and Apple "borrowed" quite a lot of *that* on the early macs from real old Xerox Parc work in the 60/70's....look up "Alan Kay", PARC, "Dan Ingalls", "Douglas Engelbart" and so on. So neither the look or the feel is really theirs.
****. I used the "A***" (hint: fruit from a tree which grows in orchards) word. May I get sued for unauthorized use of THAT?
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Not to mention Apple stole the IBM UI. It was IBM that up with the cursor/click UI.
Apple and Microsoft both stole IBM's inventions.

MartyLK said:
Not to mention Apple stole the IBM UI. It was IBM that up with the cursor/click UI.
Apple and Microsoft both stole IBM's inventions.
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Yeah, but MS got paid for it (OS/2 anyone?)

MartyLK said:
Not to mention Apple stole the IBM UI. It was IBM that up with the cursor/click UI.
Apple and Microsoft both stole IBM's inventions.
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You mean Xerox.

ugh...
stupid apple...

iOS will fail android ftw

apple knows this job well

r0m1n3t said:
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Seriously, idk the tablets.. but i've got a Galaxy SII: iPhone's game is over!

Apple now owns the "slide to unlock" gesture

Source: http://www.infoworld.com/t/intellec...lock-patent-stomp-android-or-windows-8-177178
You might think that at least two features in Microsoft's Windows 8 Developer Preview may come perilously close to infringing on Apple's "Slide to Unlock" patent.
As currently constituted, the Windows 8 Lock Screen requires a slide -- from bottom to top -- to reveal the logon screen. And the optional Windows 8 picture password feature (the subject of its own Microsoft trademark filing) requires the user to define and repeat a pattern of three touches on the screen.
You might also think that every slide-to-unlock Android device manufacturer would be quaking in lead-lined boots, with Apple's lawyers poised to shoot down their unlock screens.
It doesn't take a team of patent lawyers to see similarities between Windows 8's swipe-up-to-unlock and touch-to-log-on gestures, and Apple's unlock shtick. But do either infringe on Apple's patent? Every Android device starts with a swipe, but was Apple first to the mark? Take a closer look.
The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office granted Patent 7,657,849 (alternate source) to Apple on Feb. 2, 2010. Shortly thereafter, Apple sued HTC for its slide-to-unlock transgressions. USPTO granted a very similar patent to Apple, number 8,046,721, on Oct. 25, 2011.
Here's the abstract for the first Apple patent, issued almost two years ago:
A device with a touch-sensitive display may be unlocked via gestures performed on the touch-sensitive display. The device is unlocked if contact with the display corresponds to a predefined gesture for unlocking the device. The device displays one or more unlock images with respect to which the predefined gesture is to be performed in order to unlock the device. The performance of the predefined gesture with respect to the unlock image may include moving the unlock image to a predefined location and/or moving the unlock image along a predefined path. The device may also display visual cues of the predefined gesture on the touch screen to remind a user of the gesture.
The abstract for the second Apple patent, the one issued yesterday, is identical to the earlier patent, except it includes one more sentence at the end: "In addition, there is a need for sensory feedback to the user regarding progress towards satisfaction of a user input condition that is required for the transition to occur." The older patent is listed as a parent case.
As the 9to5Mac site explains, the Neonode N1m phone had a slide-to-unlock feature that predated the first Apple patent by more than a year. "Interestingly," the site says, "a Dutch court ruled that the slide to unlock patent was invalid because of this very device." Indeed.
Take a look at tnkgrl's ancient video review of the N1m at around 4:15 into the clip. See how the N1m implemented a left-to-right unlock swipe? Of course, Apple would argue that the N1m swipe doesn't include "sensory feedback to the user regarding progress." Perhaps that's why Apple filed the second patent.
American courts aren't held to Dutch precedents, but whatever sanity prevailed in the Netherlands should hold some sway on this side of the Atlantic. It's hard to believe that Apple could sandbag Android on swipe to unlock, thanks to the N1m.
As for the Windows 8 speculation, while patents are subject to interpretation in ways that defy gravity, if not logic, the dozen-or-so dense pages of description in the two Apple patents appear to let Windows 8 off the hook. The pertinent "claim" involves:
...detecting a contact with the touch-sensitive display at a first predefined location corresponding to an unlock image; continuously moving the unlock image on the touch-sensitive display in accordance with movement of the contact while continuous contact with the touch screen is maintained, wherein the unlock image is a graphical, interactive user-interface object with which a user interacts in order to unlock the device; and unlocking the hand-held electronic device if the moving the unlock image on the touch-sensitive display results in movement of the unlock image from the first predefined location to a predefined unlock region on the touch-sensitive display.
While the Abstract doesn't delve into the meaning of an "unlock image," this claim in the patents makes it clear that Apple's patented process only applies to dragging a bunch of predefined pixels across the screen. Neither the Windows 8 lock screen nor the picture password feature require the user to drag an image across the screen.
It looks like Windows 8 dodged the bullet -- this time.
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Anyone into the lockscreen development realm needs to be mindful of this, if they don't want to be sued.

The US patent system is FUBAR. I despise the ability to patent such a generic ability. Especially when it existed in other areas first.
Love apple hardware (best trackpad in the business, bar none) but I really dislike the legal/patent shenanigans.

ahh... no problem
slide 2 unlock is sooooo old school
we got Face Unlock from ICS
and 1 touch unlock from CM
and WiFi unlock from 3rd party apps
and... soooooo much more options in market

cp_kirkley said:
The US patent system is FUBAR. I despise the ability to patent such a generic ability. Especially when it existed in other areas first.
Love apple hardware (best trackpad in the business, bar none) but I really dislike the legal/patent shenanigans.
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Not just the generic ability, but it's open source they're trying to patent parts of. Android functions under GPL for the most part. GOD I hate Apple with such an indescribable passion!!!

agentfazexx said:
Not just the generic ability, but it's open source they're trying to patent parts of. Android functions under GPL for the most part. GOD I hate Apple with such an indescribable passion!!!
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they are ridiculous. pissed that a superior class of devices designed for a wider variety of users with a wider variety of income is outselling their overpriced and "on lockdown" garbage.
but hey, whatever let's make the consumers pay for it.
screw apple.

cobraboy85 said:
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they are ridiculous. pissed that a superior class of devices designed for a wider variety of users with a wider variety of income is outselling their overpriced and "on lockdown" garbage.
but hey, whatever let's make the consumers pay for it.
screw apple.
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Yeah Apple sucks. Their controls and locks are pretty stupid too. It limits functionality like crazy. Then they come in and try and force everyone to use their inferior product. I seriously hope they get sued for antitrust.

And the worst of it is, this is not even Apple's "invention": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj-KS2kfIr0 (seek to 4:00)

Gusar321 said:
And the worst of it is, this is not even Apple's "invention": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj-KS2kfIr0 (seek to 4:00)
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Wow, that's interesting...

+1
Outstanding!
I want one!
Customized version of WinCE
full spec http://www.gsmarena.com/neonode_n1m-1137.php
from 2005 wow!

This doesn't have to be a problem for Google. All they have to do is, first of all after making Android legal, simply license the slide-to-unlock property of Apple.

MartyLK said:
This doesn't have to be a problem for Google. All they have to do is, first of all after making Android legal, simply license the slide-to-unlock property of Apple.
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The point is, they shouldn't have to worry about that crap.

I believe the patent in question actually specifies a full slide where you actually have to slide your finger clear from one side of the locking mechanism to the other. If a flick gesture achieves the same end it is not in violation of said patent. I've never slid my thumb even halfway up the screen.

AllGamer said:
Outstanding!
I want one!
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Neat little device, isn't it? I want one too!
Not very flexible though, not even java. And who knows how much the browser is capable of. But who cares, it's a really, really neat little thingy!

Damn thats annoying, i like apple's products but man they behave like such arrogant irritating f#cks, it just puts me off completely.
Sent from my GT-I9000.

agentfazexx said:
The point is, they shouldn't have to worry about that crap.
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Well, it's really easy to avoid infringing this Apple technology, simply go back to what was being used before the iPhone's slide-unlock feature appeared: Tapping an unlock button.

MartyLK said:
Well, it's really easy to avoid infringing this Apple technology, simply go back to what was being used before the iPhone's slide-unlock feature appeared: Tapping an unlock button.
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Perhaps you should watch the N1m video. Your timeline appears to be skewed.

On winmo there was an application that looked almost like the top of a rotary dialer that you slid to unlock long before iOS had it. They were just the first ones smart enough to patent it, and good for them.

z33dev33l said:
On winmo there was an application that looked almost like the top of a rotary dialer that you slid to unlock long before iOS had it. They were just the first ones smart enough to patent it, and good for them.
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Good for them? What exactly do you think the patent system is for?
The slide to unlock patent has already been ruled invalid in Europe.

z33dev33l said:
On winmo there was an application that looked almost like the top of a rotary dialer that you slid to unlock long before iOS had it. They were just the first ones smart enough to patent it, and good for them.
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Patenting things invented by others is ridiculous and should not be possible. A patent should only be able to go to the actual inventor. If the inventor foregoes that option it should automatically be public domain. Biotech companies pull the same BS they patent genetic strains cultivated for hundreds of years by farmers and then tell them they have to pay to use it.
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dakine said:
Patenting things invented by others is ridiculous and should not be possible. A patent should only be able to go to the actual inventor. If the inventor foregoes that option it should automatically be public domain. Biotech companies pull the same BS they patent genetic strains cultivated for hundreds of years by farmers and then tell them they have to pay to use it.
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Well, the first time I ever saw a "slide-to-unlock" feature was on the first iPhone. And I've been around a long time.

We should let everyone know what shame Apple is doing

This thing that Apple is suing every freaking mobile companies/manufactures with their (stolen) patents is really a shame. Look at this very last new of ITC banning the importation and selling of certain HTC phone in US. Whoever buys any new Apple products enable the company to become stronger and stronger, unfortunately not in a good way. Apple is trying so hard and at any cost to get rid of the mobile concurrence. This means hijacking the mobile marketing, which will eventually realize the company's dream to capitalize and control the entire mobile markering worldwide. If we are all a little bit clever, we should really open a campaign and let everyone know what the company plans really are, what they are doing, and work something together to stop this shame.
Please share this, have ur say and let everyone know what is going on, what they are really buying today and what consequence their purchase might cause.
Thanks

Thing is, we who do NOT endorse them through product purchase, already know better. Those who do, won't care about this just like they don't care to blow heaps of money out their a**es. So....

Skv012a said:
Thing is, we who do NOT endorse them through product purchase, already know better. Those who do, won't care about this just like they don't care to blow heaps of money out their a**es. So....
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Yea thats true.. Although I am sure there's still someone who doesn't know it and would like to stay away from powering up a company that plans to capitalize and get in control of everything.
A clear message needs to be sent...

i really don't know what apple is trying to do, sueing all the world.. maybe next will be eve cause she bit an apple???
by the way, reading everything is good to know HTC, and maybe Google already have a solution for this patent infrigments, so the android user experience will always be better than iphonish one...

I see no reason for either panic or concern. First of all, look at the range of devices affected: v1.6 - v2.2 You can't even purchase new HTC device with Froyo or older OS. Second, HTC already responded that they do have a workaround in the pipeline that would diminish all claims Apple's suit made.
Take a step back and try to look at the bigger picture. Ask yourself, why is Apple suing Samsung, HTC, etc? My theory is very simple; Apple's runaway success ran out of steam and they losing ground to Android quicker then Apple engineers are able to put together a new product. Earlier today Andy Rubin bragged about 700,000 daily activations. Simply put, Apple is scared of competition. Nay, they are scared ****less. Since they can't compete by innovating they choose to fight by litigating.
If there is one thing I have agreed with Jobs on, was his musing that "market will sort everything out". It looks like market already did just that and the new is not good for Apple, hence the lawsuits.

Segnale007 said:
This thing that Apple is suing every freaking mobile companies/manufactures with their (stolen) patents is really a shame. Look at this very last new of ITC banning the importation and selling of certain HTC phone in US. Whoever buys any new Apple products enable the company to become stronger and stronger, unfortunately not in a good way. Apple is trying so hard and at any cost to get rid of the mobile concurrence. This means hijacking the mobile marketing, which will eventually realize the company's dream to capitalize and control the entire mobile markering worldwide. If we are all a little bit clever, we should really open a campaign and let everyone know what the company plans really are, what they are doing, and work something together to stop this shame.
Please share this, have ur say and let everyone know what is going on, what they are really buying today and what consequence their purchase might cause.
Thanks
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I believe the other tech companies should stop copying Apple. They are the ones to be shamed, not Apple. If they hadn't copied Apple's products, Apple would not be suing. Blaming and hating Apple is like a criminal blaming and hating their victim for fighting back.

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I believe the other tech companies should stop copying Apple. They are the ones to be shamed, not Apple. If they hadn't copied Apple's products, Apple would not be suing. Blaming and hating Apple is like a criminal blaming and hating their victim for fighting back.
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Ugh, you have it completely backwards. I remember watching Job's last keynote and chuckling every time he presented a "new", "revolutionary", and of course "magical" feature in IOS 5. Notifications complete with pulldown status bar! Cloud services! OTA updates!!!!
Yeah, you're right, everyone is stealing from Apple and therefore deserves the consequences.

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Ugh, you have it completely backwards. I remember watching Job's last keynote and chuckling every time he presented a "new", "revolutionary", and of course "magical" feature in IOS 5. Notifications complete with pulldown status bar! Cloud services! OTA updates!!!!
Yeah, you're right, everyone is stealing from Apple and therefore deserves the consequences.
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How is it backwards? Is the NB patented? Are any of the iOS 5 features patented by anyone other than Apple?

MartyLK said:
I believe the other tech companies should stop copying Apple. They are the ones to be shamed, not Apple. If they hadn't copied Apple's products, Apple would not be suing. Blaming and hating Apple is like a criminal blaming and hating their victim for fighting back.
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Obviously you don't know what ur talking about (take it as a polite way to call you troll).
What Apple has been doing ever since it joined the IT market back in 1985 is to steal other ideas and projects in a legal manner, then patent them and use them against any company/manufactures.
Btw Apple calls this "REINVENTING". Just like they reinvented the phone, reinvented the way to interact between apps, DLNA, the cloud, the pull down notification bar, and the list goes on on and on..
I think I said pretty much all..

Apple business model will fail not now but in the future. What apple is trying to do is to stall it in a way. They already knew sole proprietary will fail, they almost went under at the start..
Steve jobs started a vendetta againts the android os. This is common knowledge. He got mad that someone in his company said NO left and made a product just as good.
My thing is how and why would apple try to sue something that isnt even their os. Thats like microsoft suing apple for a double click to open a file. Or adobe suing java, its childish.
Or ford suing all car manufacturers for having a break pedal.
Noting was stolen, apple has its own OS and android has theirs.
In my opinion suing for how a devices behaves. Its stupid dumb and im surprised the judges havent said that.
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Obviously you don't know what ur talking about (take it as a polite way to call you troll).
What Apple has been doing ever since it joined the IT market back in 1985 is to steal other ideas and projects in a legal manner, then patent them and use them against any company/manufactures.
Btw Apple calls this "REINVENTING". Just like they reinvented the phone, reinvented the way to interact between apps, DLNA, the cloud, the pull down notification bar, and the list goes on on and on..
I think I said pretty much all..
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And you are wrong. (call it a polite way of calling you a liar). Apple never steals. They never stole from IBM or Xerox. If a tech is owned by another company, Apple will license it if the need it...or buy it.
This just in: Apple owns another patent. They don't steal, they own.
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Wins...+Blatantly+Ignores+Prior+Art/article23570.htm

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And you are wrong. (call it a polite way of calling you a liar). Apple never steals. They never stole from IBM or Xerox. If a tech is owned by another company, Apple will license it if the need it...or buy it.
This just in: Apple owns another patent. They don't steal, they own.
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Wins...+Blatantly+Ignores+Prior+Art/article23570.htm
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So did they "license" the android style notification dropdown in IOS5? And did they license the slide to unlock feature that they got a patent for?

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And you are wrong. (call it a polite way of calling you a liar). Apple never steals. They never stole from IBM or Xerox. If a tech is owned by another company, Apple will license it if the need it...or buy it.
This just in: Apple owns another patent. They don't steal, they own.
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Wins...+Blatantly+Ignores+Prior+Art/article23570.htm
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You obviously came here just to troll so I am not going to bother to deconstruct your ignorant comment. If you cared enough you'd read the very article you posted here just to get a general idea how the company you're shilling for "competes" in this market.

AnyMal said:
You obviously came here just to troll so I am not going to bother to deconstruct your ignorant comment. If you cared enough you'd read the very article you posted here just to get a general idea how the company you're shilling for "competes" in this market.
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You, obviously, came here to work up hate and anger for Apple. And I do see and read. I see Apple as the victim here. The others are violating Apple and you are "shilling" for the guilty.

Patents are the most rediculus things I have ever seen...
Patents should be used for something totally unique in innovation like design and stuff and not for something that is like a building block of every other phone too...
And buying someone else's patents is bull****...it shows that the company is not innovative and steal others ideas and just keeps on bragging that they have done all the innovations....
Talking about stealing...apple has also stolen other's stuff like the drop down notification bar, siri etc etc...but google and other companies never patent everything they innovate because they know that somethings are crusial for every phone and its very anti innovative to patent those things...
I wonder what will happen when the Patent Office starts accepting patents for things other than technology...then the whole world will start suing each other...and another world war will begin...
And look what Steve Jobs said in his biography that he can even go for a bio nuclear war to stop android....which shows how greedy he is that he can destroy the whole world just for something **** like iPhone...
And people want to move towards open source bacause its very innovative and free too...
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Funny how he completely ignores my post.

varun.singh286 said:
Patents are the most rediculus things I have ever seen...
Patents should be used for something totally unique in innovation like design and stuff and not for something that is like a building block of every other phone too...
And buying someone else's patents is bull****...it shows that the company is not innovative and steal others ideas and just keeps on bragging that they have done all the innovations....
Talking about stealing...apple has also stolen other's stuff like the drop down notification bar, siri etc etc...but google and other companies never patent everything they innovate because they know that somethings are crusial for every phone and its very anti innovative to patent those things...
I wonder what will happen when the Patent Office starts accepting patents for things other than technology...then the whole world will start suing each other...and another world war will begin...
And look what Steve Jobs said in his biography that he can even go for a bio nuclear war to stop android....which shows how greedy he is that he can destroy the whole world just for something **** like iPhone...
And people want to move towards open source bacause its very innovative and free too...
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Typical. People who hate Apple focus on one tiny little thing they do and ignore the mountain of violations the other companies have been doing against Apple for years.
And Apple owns Siri. They bought the technology from the creator of an Apple app and improved it and made it more perfect. That's what Apple does.

MartyLK said:
You, obviously, came here to work up hate and anger for Apple. And I do see and read. I see Apple as the victim here. The others are violating Apple and you are "shilling" for the guilty.
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Whoa.... chill down man.... your hatred is showing right now no? Your post just implied that everyone copied crapple.
Oh, did you mean that your beloved company copied Android's notification bar? Oh well....
BTW stop defending Apple and go back and pray at Steve Jobs altar.
Oh, the new Apple= Assholes placing patent lawsuits everywhere.
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sooyong94 said:
Whoa.... chill down man.... your hatred is showing right now no? Your post just implied that everyone copied crapple.
Oh, did you mean that your beloved company copied Android's notification bar? Oh well....
BTW stop defending Apple and go back and pray at Steve Jobs altar.
Oh, the new Apple= Assholes placing patent lawsuits everywhere.
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Sorry to enrage you and make you be a false witness. All that I said, I said with calmness and rationality. What you read into it, you read from your own emotions. So, my apologies for controlling your emotions and making you do something against your will.

MartyLK said:
This just in: Apple owns another patent. They don't steal, they own.
http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Wins...+Blatantly+Ignores+Prior+Art/article23570.htm
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LOOOOOOOL. I didn't even need to click on that, it's in the link itself: "ignores prior art". So yeah, Apple owns. They own things they didn't actually invent! Awesome! Not!
MartyLK said:
How is it backwards? Is the NB patented? Are any of the iOS 5 features patented by anyone other than Apple?
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This is the typical Apple fan mode of operation:
Apple Fan: "Apple invented all this stuff!!"
Someone: "Err, no they didn't. There was this, that and the other stuff, which Apple copied."
Apple Fan: "Yeah, well, Apple owns the patents!!"
Suddenly it's not important anymore that Apple hasn't invented anything. And they're completely oblivious how what this does is point to the brokenness of the patent system, as opposed to pointing to the supposed brilliance of Apple.
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And Apple owns Siri. They bought the technology from the creator of an Apple app and improved it and made it more perfect. That's what Apple does.
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But, but, but... I thought Apple is this brilliant inventor! Now you're telling me that the biggest "revolution" of IOS5 wasn't invented by Apple? How's that work?