like in thread. I cooked WM6.5.3, build 28205 with Palm OEM. All works: sleep with red button, messaging etc. Without CHome etc (lockscreen too).
Known bug is not opening Start after tapping icon on the screen. You must open Start with hardbutton.
Please test, I try to fix any bugs you find
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phone need to be hard spl unlocked?
nice work!
but :
1. when you push the phone buttom there is a white sqare that stay for ever...
2. you can choose ringtone only from the phone itself and not from the card.
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1. when you push the phone buttom there is a white sqare that stay for ever...
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oh, really ? I fix this when I could.
Thanks for your efforts! The WM6.5 work for the Treo has slowed to a crawl. Nice to see there are a few of us that still like the Treo's form-factor.
Wow, I really like this ROM. I thought nav's was cool, this is even better! As with nav's ROM, I'll pitch in with some bug reporting.
-Palm's messaging app cannot be closed. It can't be exited, apparently, when I tap the close button on the bottom right it won't close the program. I used Wakutask to minimize it but that's the closest way to minimizing it on one tap (another way to minimize it it to open Start ->Show Today and it should go to the RAM.) Unfortunately, I am unable to use the Task Manager to close it as well. Only a Reboot will clear it away.
-Where is the "Keyguard" control panel applet? I want to turn off keyguard but cannot find the option.
Some other none-Palm related issues:
-When I install FileExplorer Ext, it freezes the phone randomly. Could be a probem with it, so I use Resco explorer for installing cabs :/
-HTC Task Manager doesn't work. Does anyone know which task managing progam is good for the new close button position?
-The aforementioned Waku Task works as designed, but as I mentioned earlier the close button no longer works at the top right (it would if you enable X-button skinning), but having active tasks still on the top bar is great
So, seeing how good this ROM is, minus the above issues, I'm wondering what should we call this ROM? Mietas edition?
Thanks again fo keeping the Treo alive!
more bugs
1.it did not let me to install new programs. I did an hard reset and then i succeed to install softwares.
2.i installed spb keyboard, and when i entered to menu in this software it freez and i needed to do a reset.
Oh this is issue is tottaly awesome. I didnt hope, that someone make new stable rom, with palm oem things. how much free ram is after installation? Want you fix the remaining bugs shortly? I didnt already install it, but i'm going to try it tomorrow.
Many thanks from treo user from czech.
I fix bugs as soon I get a Treo. Probably this week.
Thanks for reporting bugs so much
What about stability, RAM etc?
Finally had the chance to install it. Nice work!
1) I have to admit that I do miss the 'Zune' look of the earlier version's homescreen, but will gladly give it up for the stability and features of this ROM.
2) I had an issue trying to select a ringtone on the Phone Settings Screen. It looks like there is an extra dropdown menu covering up the one where you actually select the ringtone. Once you managed to select the proper dropdown, you could change the ringtone, it just took a little fiddling.
3) When I tried changing themes for the today screen, once switching off the AT&T screen, I couldn't get it back the way it was before the switch. Some of the menus, fonts, and graphics had changed (for example the lower menu bar on the home screen), and the only way I could find to restore it was a hard reset.
4) As others have said, clicking on the Windows logo on the home screen doesn't do anything. You have to use the Windows button on the keyboard.
5) I didn't have the issue reported by mangatron regarding the Messaging app. Mine seems to work fine.
6) The Phone button issue reported by libal is present for me too. It appears to be the menu box that popped up when pressing the phone button, only it goes blank, and as reported it does not go away by leaving that screen. Soft reset does clear it.
Any chance you could share your kitchen with us? This would allow us to make a few of these fixes and will allow us to port to other versions.
Also - When using any mail program it will not allow any reply to an email.
Hmm, Messaging app works fine now. Maybe I had to receive a few sms first, or I suspect my sim card wasn't playing nice with the ROM.
I also use AE Button Plus to map the OK button to actually close programs. That does wonders.
The old battery indicator that used to be in WM6 is half in the top bar. Well, I say half because I can see a part of the lightning icon (when you charge your phone), and a bit of the left shows up. Any way to clear that? Or a bug maybe...
I would like to note people using this ROM for the first time:
-It's always best to clear data after flashing ROM's. Hold Power button and press the Reset button underneath the MiniSD cover. That should clear the old installation setup you had previously, which should fix installation errors.
-The phone may seem sluggish at first setup, just wait for it to load what needs to load, and after you soft reset, everything should be smooth.
-For those that wonder about program compatibility, I tested a WM2003 era program (MADE Text Editor), and it simply overwrites the bottom bar with it's WM2003 style icon style bar. Works fine
As for stability, RAM, the phone operates a bit slower than WM6.1. SKTools benchmarks puts the graphics rendering nearly 100 points lower than WM6.1, and almost 200 points lower than nav's WM6.5 ROM. Maybe if we use his specialized ATI dll it might be faster? Because the CPU is also a bit slow, but only by 1 point, although RAM access time and Main Storage Read/Write is the same as WM6/6.1. I don't really want to tax the RAM, I tested Opera Mobile 10 Beta 2u and it operates the same way as on WM6/6.1. I don't want to test Beta 3 because that uses up twice the RAM than Beta 2u.
So far so good though, with a little bit of fixing this ROM can be a winner
Can this be used on Treo 700WX?
or is there WM6.5 ROM for Treo 700WX?
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As for stability, RAM, the phone operates a bit slower than WM6.1. SKTools benchmarks puts the graphics rendering nearly 100 points lower than WM6.1, and almost 200 points lower than nav's WM6.5 ROM. Maybe if we use his specialized ATI dll it might be faster? Because the CPU is also a bit slow, but only by 1 point, although RAM access time and Main Storage Read/Write is the same as WM6/6.1. I don't really want to tax the RAM, I tested Opera Mobile 10 Beta 2u and it operates the same way as on WM6/6.1. I don't want to test Beta 3 because that uses up twice the RAM than Beta 2u.
So far so good though, with a little bit of fixing this ROM can be a winner
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I can't readily compare to 6.1 because I haven't used it in a long time, but this ROM is definitely snappier than nav's 6.5 version. It loads faster, locks onto AT&T much faster, and web pages seem to load faster too. I'm just using it stock, I haven't added any additional software to it. I had nav's ROM on my Treo for several months, and would not go back from a performance perspective.
Having said that, I can confirm Z3rx's report of not being able to reply to emails. It just returns you to the Inbox when selecting reply either through the menu, or using the left action key. That's a big problem for me as I use e-mail quite a bit on my phone. Hope the OP doesn't disappear, as so many of the Treo 750 cookers seem to do after an initial release.
just wanted to say thanks! i also lost confidence in new wm6.5 roms for our old but good treo 750!
keep up the good work man!
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I can't readily compare to 6.1 because I haven't used it in a long time, but this ROM is definitely snappier than nav's 6.5 version. It loads faster, locks onto AT&T much faster, and web pages seem to load faster too. I'm just using it stock, I haven't added any additional software to it. I had nav's ROM on my Treo for several months, and would not go back from a performance perspective.
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Hmm, I can only imagine with nav's ATI driver this Mietas ROM would be a whole lot better, nav's was good basically for font rendering (pretty much every program launched) and Camera quality. The rest, was like you mentioned, it wasn't optimized in a lot of places, most notably for it's RAM management and I would suspect CHome/Titanium existing in his ROM further slowed it down.
Other than that, isn't signal clarity/reception dependant on the Radio Firmware version? Although I wouldn't be surprised because Nav's ROM does not pull both CAP_package and the Carrier database from EXT Rom like Mietas' ROM [probably] does (which would explain it being able to lock on faster, a similar experience I had with Tacoman's WM6.1 and the Chinese WM6.1, with Taco's pulling from EXT Rom while the CHS one didn't)
I would like to add that I currently am using the Database from what was most likely the final Official ENG ROM released by Palm, Vodafone Version 2.30 which according to my digging contains the most up to date Carrier Database (that's where all the world's wireless carrier information is kept). I could imagine if you had this you'd have even better results with your wireless carrier.
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Other than that, isn't signal clarity/reception dependant on the Radio Firmware version? Although I wouldn't be surprised because Nav's ROM does not pull both CAP_package and the Carrier database from EXT Rom like Mietas' ROM [probably] does (which would explain it being able to lock on faster, a similar experience I had with Tacoman's WM6.1 and the Chinese WM6.1, with Taco's pulling from EXT Rom while the CHS one didn't)
I would like to add that I currently am using the Database from what was most likely the final Official ENG ROM released by Palm, Vodafone Version 2.30 which according to my digging contains the most up to date Carrier Database (that's where all the world's wireless carrier information is kept). I could imagine if you had this you'd have even better results with your wireless carrier.
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I'm on AT&T, and did not change the radio firmware when I flashed this ROM. On Nav's ROM I manually set up the AT&T config, but did not have to here. Could be the difference I suppose.
startngate said:
I can't readily compare to 6.1 because I haven't used it in a long time, but this ROM is definitely snappier than nav's 6.5 version. It loads faster, locks onto AT&T much faster, and web pages seem to load faster too. I'm just using it stock, I haven't added any additional software to it. I had nav's ROM on my Treo for several months, and would not go back from a performance perspective.
Having said that, I can confirm Z3rx's report of not being able to reply to emails. It just returns you to the Inbox when selecting reply either through the menu, or using the left action key. That's a big problem for me as I use e-mail quite a bit on my phone. Hope the OP doesn't disappear, as so many of the Treo 750 cookers seem to do after an initial release.
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I agree that I hope the cook does not disappear, which is why I have asked for his cooked kitchen so I can make further improvements or port other version (23541)... however I have not heard anything back.
The email issue is a big problem as many times I can not even start a new email.
Please share your work so we can make a great rom!
Thank you, i was specting for something like this for about a year, anyone has some pictures of this new ROM working???
how the radio works how can i change the radio to get a better signal? here we have 850 umts and gsm 1800
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I got a Diamond about a month ago, and i have been a very long customer of HTC, since the days of xda 2s/Blue angel to xda orbit2/Polaris.
now i have the Diamond, im really wondering if i should have bothered getting the iphone 3g.
it seems to be the slowest device i have ever had.... and it is due to the touchflo3d app. which i will be honest, i love it. its great and works well, even when skinned. but after a soft reset, just after flo3d boots up, i am using 60% of the memory, is this normal? if this is, then this is unacceptable for a device that does not have enough memory to run.
if i unload flo3d, i can get it down to about 50%, which is better, but with a boring homescreen.
so, this now means that windows uses half of the system memory just to run, 60% with flo3d and if i run wifi and Opera or youtube together, about 80% of the time i get "the device is low on memory" message.
My question is , is this normal? and is there anything i can do to make my situation better? i am currently running the Syrius WWE 1.00.25.03 rom....
cheers and sorry bout the rant...
I personally don't like TF3D, I think it's badly flawed and half-finished. I'm running Panosha's ultra-lite Shimple 1.1 ROM without TF3D, using a bunch of SPB today plugins and my free memory is 72MB after a soft reset.
Having said that, there are ways to keep TF3D and improve the memory situation. Disabling the HTC dialer and volume control can gain you as much as 12MB for example.
Some ROMs save more memory than others, I haven't tried that many of them but HallengreeN's is meant to be quite good in this respect. He has a new one coming out this weekend apparently.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429147
Memory issues?
I'm using HTC standard 1.93 ROM. Never had any 'Out of memory' messages. Never had any slow device issues. I use MemMaid to clean up my device once a day and make sure applications close, not minimise using HTC Task Manager.
I certainly don't agree that TF3D is badly flawed and half finished... but we're all entitled to our own opinions
Just to clarify my previous post, I've never had any "the device is low on memory" messages so that part isn't normal. I'd definitely recommend a new ROM or at least a hard reset.
Your memory figures do sound fairly normal though, TF3D is a memory hog and I used to get bad delays with it. This would have been with one of Dutty's 1.93 ROMs back in August/September.
Reflash and lose the dialer and things should improve!
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I personally don't like TF3D, I think it's badly flawed and half-finished. I'm running Panosha's ultra-lite Shimple 1.1 ROM without TF3D, using a bunch of SPB today plugins and my free memory is 72MB after a soft reset.
Having said that, there are ways to keep TF3D and improve the memory situation. Disabling the HTC dialer and volume control can gain you as much as 12MB for example.
Some ROMs save more memory than others, I haven't tried that many of them but HallengreeN's is meant to be quite good in this respect. He has a new one coming out this weekend apparently.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429147
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Could you give more details on how to go about on that? Where and how can I disable the volume control and dialer?
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Could you give more details on how to go about on that? Where and how can I disable the volume control and dialer?
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The easiest way to disable the dialer is to use either Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool or Diamond Tweak. Diamond Tweak also has a setting for disabling the HTC Volume Control but it doesn't work on newer ROMs so the only working method is by cab file.
See post #2 of this thread for more details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434934
Hi everybody, I recently got a Diamond2 and found that the enormous amount of expertise and help available at xda-developers have really helped me enjoy this phone. The phone is not locally supported by any carriers or retailers in Canada so the availability of these forums have been a real help. I've run through most of the issues I've had with the phone (really like the Pro2 Interface better but was way to bulky) but have a few remaining that I haven't been able to find satisfactory answers for, hope you guys will be able to help.
I've downloaded and played around with what seem to be most of the prerequisite softwares: Advanced Config Tool, Klaxon, Changescreen etc. and have also made a couple of registry modifications to enable TF3D rotation and things like that. Here is where I'm getting into a bit of trouble. Although changescreen is a great app I just don't like to install a lot of things on my device and decided to try the regedit. After a soft reset it seemed to work great but was quite slow in switching over to landscape and back. At first I though this was a problem with the g-sensor so I opened up Opera to try it out and found that it was much faster. Obviously it's a lot less graphically intense but I was playing around with a Touch Pro2 before I bought the Diamond2 and it is also significantly faster, with the same processor and everything. I've tried to reduce the sampling time for the g-sensor down from 200ms to 100ms in ACT but that didn't really seem to help. Also I get some really weird lines across the tops of TF3D pages in landscape; in the All Contacts page for example the bar that contains "Search Contacts" will have at least three sets of distorted lines across it at regular intervals across the page. The wallpaper also seems to malfunction as instead of staying as it was, it will stretch across the width of the screen and as a result become extremely distorted. The dialer doesn't go into landscape but that seems to be a common issue. I've downloaded the Rhodium Phone Dialer although I haven't had a chance to install it yet, maybe that will fix the dialer issue.
I do have some app installed that changes the background of all tabs to be the same and this seems to have messed with the transparency of the tab bar and, occasionally the phone will fail to respond to screen swipes that would usually cycle through the tabs without using the tab bar. Maybe this app is also causing the other problems.
The help on these forums has already been a great asset and I was just hoping that I would be able to get some simple fixes for the issues with the landscape thing without having to install more software. Thanks in advance for any help, its all appreciated. Cheers.
PS, rom is 1.39.421.0 (47382) WWE
what you can do to improve things:
1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
2. install flipit for rotation software - its better than the rest IMO
Thanks for the quick reply
Thanks for the quick reply, sorry I wasn't able to reply right away, got a bit busy at uni.
I was a bit apprehensive about installing a new rom but the one you recommended is amazing. The speed increase alone is unbelievable, doesn't even feel like the same device.
Everything is working great and the rotation is really fast now on everything except TF3D. It almost looks like it attempts to rotate and then fails. The title bars rotate around and then rotate back. I've added the regedit, manually removed and added it back into flip_it, but nothing seems to be working. Aside from that everything else seems perfect. Hope you'll be able to help, and once again, thanks.
oh yeah.. forgot to mention about manila in landscape
go to search and look for At0mAng & Danny_and_2 TF3D2 Tweak cab for topaz
install, and in the list of programs, there is option called Manila Rotate ON.
and thats it, you are all set...
hope this helps
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Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
Goondu said:
Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
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tess = topaz essential
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529260
Almost there
Thanks for the tip about the tweak program, installed it and followed your directions, manila is now rotating. However, its still incredibly slow; in the range of 3-5 seconds for transition to landscape and then around 1-2 seconds back to portrait. Also, those distortive lines I described earlier are back.
I was hoping for the kind of speed seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPVgN5QuzO4 but I do realize that its a different rom. I've disabled and enabled TF3D and also done a soft reset, but no speed increase. I was thinking it may be a hardware issue but everything else works fine. One thing I have noticed though is that since installing this rom some programs get stuck half rotated and the other half of the screen will display the TF3D home page. Once again, thanks for all the help so far.
P.S. If I disable TF3D the blank today screen will rotate at the same speed as in that video if not faster. Also before when the menus rotated but not TF3D they were rotating at the same fast speed.
yes, I know what you mean.. at this stage, manila rotates pretty slow for me too...
I guess at the moment, we have to live with it... the slow rotation only happens on tf3d2 rite? the rest is ok...
as with hardware issue, I am sure it is not, cause topaz is still relatively new...
btw, Manila 2.1 is around, and manila 2.5 is coming too... so, maybe they would give better performance .
btw, the youtube link is a rom made by Tom Condon, and as you probably know, he is very active in building rom for topaz too... why dont you give him a message, or try his rom...
Tha
sorry double post again..
Sounds good
Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
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Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
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if you follow tess forum, then the next release would have manila 2.1
Thanks
Ye, sorry about that didn't quite follow the forum all the way, I guess I'll be waiting. Thanks man.
Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
I know when I started looking into all this it just seemed like such a daunting task. There was so much information I just didn't know where to start. I looked and looked for a guide that would explain it all to me in one go but just couldn't find one. I had to read around for days trying to get all the information and tools needed to do it, then I had to experiment with lots of failures and swearing before I got the technique right.
It was only when a friend asked if I'd help him flash his M700 that I started to write a pretty detailed email for him. I then decided I'd post it here for you guys who are struggling because I know a few days ago I would have killed for something like this.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957 and download HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1.zip
You just have to plug the phone in so it connects and run the Auto_unlock_v1.bat and follow the prompts.
It'll put your phone into bootloader (the tri colour screen) then flash it with a new radio. It's a really early version of the radio (1.16...) but it doesn't matter cos we'll upgrade that later.
It'll turn itself off when it's done so you need to turn it back on but leave it plugged in.
Keep following the prompts and eventually, it'll ask you on the phone screen if you want to unlock it. Say yes to both.
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. This is the bit that took me ages cos finding the right one isn't too easy. I tried a couple but they wouldn't flash the radio then I heard about Olipro 1.20. I could only get hold of the latest version Olipro 1.30 and it took a while to track down an earlier copy. The latest 1.30 version doesn't work when flashing the 1.56 Radio so you need to have the 1.20 version.
Download the Olipro Hard SPL 1.2 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=20 post #196
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
Again, make sure the phone is plugged in and connected and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe. It'll stick your phone in bootloader and do a little update that won't take long at all.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
WARNING! This will hard reset your phone right back to factory defaults after it's done, You need to ensure you've backed up all your numbers and files etc. You have been warned.
Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
This will take a little bit longer, it took about 5 mins to do the update on mine.
Once it's complete you will need to turn your phone on again. It will first of all display the version of ROM then for a brief moment it will flash the Radio version on the screen, if it says 1.56.70.11 then you've got it right, if not then you'll have to try another HARDSPL tool. Don't worry if you miss it cos you can always check it on the 'Settings | System | Device Information' tab.
4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. There is no 'One ROM to rule them all...' Everyone wants different things from their operating system and you just have to play around until you get one you like. Some people want all the fancy bells and whistles of Manila2D (Touchflo) from 6.1 or the fancy honey cone start menu that comes with 6.5. I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. If you just want to get it upgraded then try this one out to start with, then when you realise how easy it is you can flash away til your hearts content.
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758 You'll struggle to find a faster ROM out there. This is the 27017v2 which is one of the latest releases of WinMo6.5 out htere.
Connect the phone and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the folder. Follow the prompts as usual and after about 5 mins it should have finished.
Turn your phone back on and hey presto! you're up and running with WinMo6.5.
All you have to do is re-sync you phone and all your numbers are back then you're away.
See that wasn't too bad was it. All it took was a few days researching on the XDA forums and endless head scratching when things didn't work. I think most of that time was just because I was unsure exactly what to do and in what order. if I'd just had a guide like this to at least get me through once I'd have found it a lot easier. You should still go away and do the research into any software or ROM/Radio you want to use because the threads contain a lot of useful information.
NEVER post a questions until you've read the whole thread cos chances are it's already been answered.
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
It was made by a Polish guy so there are a couple of things set to Polish. You will have to change the regional settings in 'Settings | System | Regional Settings' back to the country of your origin.
Also the finger keyboard is set to Polish and he hasn't included any other languages. You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
It is quite a bare ROM so for that added little bit of BLING I added the S2U2 screen locking application. It basically gives you that little unlocking slider thingy from the iPhone (spit). Go to somewhere like http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/S2U2-52386.shtml to download the CAB and install it as normal.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
So that about wraps it up for this guide. I hope some of you total newbies find it a bit less daunting this way and will not be too scared to give other ROMs a try in the future, It's all about what you like and what you want out of your phone at the end of the day.
Please don't forget to donate some money to the chefs (especially Tomme45i) for all thier hard work if you appreciate their product. It doesn't have to be loads even if its only a pound or two. If everyone does it it mounts up. A happy chef is a chef who gets paid and releases lots of fixes/upgrades.
Do I have to take out memory card during this proccess?
Others have said you have to. but I must admit, I forgot at least once when i was flashing a ROM and it didn't seem to make any difference.
Best to take it out I guess as one of the other steps might rely on it not being in there.
Let me know how it goes.
Fantastic!
Only question-do you have P3600 or P3600i?
I have VPA compact GPS (P3600) and it seems to be different ROMs for them?
As far as I know the P3600 is exactly the same as the M700 except it has different casing. I'm currently using a different WinMo6.5 ROM with Manila that was made for a P3600 with no problems.
The P3600i has twice as much RAM memory and does require different ROM's to run.
I did it all that you said and everything is working fine, thanks for great info.
But I dont like installed ROM that you suggested and I want to flash with other one. My question is what I should flash, only ROM or I have to flash radio, olipro...?
The Radio and OliPro are now on your device until you decide to change them and overwrite them with something else. You only need to download a new ROM and install that on your phone as in the last stage of the tutorial.
This ROM by Tomme45i is very quick and very stable but it is quite simple too. Most people want something a bit more flashy. The problem with that is, with our old phones, the more bling you add the slower and more unstable they become.
I have recently put a good ROM on my phone. It is by Narshorn. It has the 23016 build of Windows 6.5 and a nice Manila2D front end (as well as the CHome front end where all the items are stacked top to bottom but I don't like that. I much prefer Manila2D). I think he is about to release a new version of it with some bug fixes in today (09/09/09) so it might be worth waiting for that.
Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549146
It's well worth reading the thread to get a feel for the limitations the ROM has, but so far I've found it to be very fast and stable.
Don't forget to donate to Narshorn for all his hard work. You only have to give him a few pounds and it all adds up. He had over 200 people download his last build and only 2 donated.
The best thing to do at this point is to head over to the ROM development thread and just READ READ READ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
Choosing a ROM is a very personal thing. Some will be perfect for someone and horrible for his friend. It just depends what you're looking for.
I only wrote this guide to get people started, the rest of the adventure is up to you to discover.
Good luck
I install tryniti 6.1. OS ultimate edition and for now I am satisfied.
Glad to hear it. Stick a link in to that ROM so others can try it out if they want.
Of course for me, I'd always try and find a 6.5 build because it has lots of finger friendly additions that mean you never have to get your stylus out to press any fiddly little menus.
Congrats ! Very GOOD Guide for new starters !
Hi chimpsinties,
I am reading since three days all the Trinity section here at the forum, each days three hours at least. I could say, this guide is quite actual, complete enough, and pointed very well, for one to start flashing an HTC P3600.
As myself.
Well, I am not a total newbie, I have flashed some months ago another device- FSCT830. But concerning Trinity- I have had no idea about until read here.
The device data up to the moment are:
ROM Version: 1.23.405.2
ROM date: 03/11/07
Radio Version: 1.38.00.11
Protocol Version: 32.71.7020.12H
ExtROM Version: 1.23.405.103
I assume the device is HTC P3600, but not HTC P3600i. Right ?
And before start asking details: is there any difference in your guide for G3 and G4 devices? How to determine what is it?
So I would to ask you some questions regarding the procedure and the availability of all original applications and devices in the new ROMs.
Please find below right inbetween your sentences, but IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
I am eager to test a new ROM !
Thank you in advance for reply.
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Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
SO, I HAVE THE DEVICE IN FRONT OF ME AND IT HAS BEEN NEVER LOCKED. I CAN USE ANY SIM CARD WITH. DOES THIS MEANS I CAN MISS THIS POINT ?
Go to..........................
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
IF I STAY WITH THE CURRENT RADIO ROM- SHOULD I FLASH SUCCESSFULLY THE DEVICE WITH A WM6.1 ROM? (e.g. Tomme45i or other reccomended)
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. ..............................................
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
I PLAN TO MAKE AN SSPL FROM HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632&page=7 . IN THIS CASE I SHOULD MISS THE HARD SPL, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WITH TEH DEVICE'S ACTUAL FW. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
IN CASE I CONSIDER TO UPGRADE THE RADIO ROM, BUT I HAVE MISSED POINT NO.1 HOW SHOULD I GUESS WHICH ARE THE BUTTONS TO CLICK IN ROMUpdeteUtility.exe ? IS THERE ANY GUIDE ABOUT, BUT IN ENGLISH?
...................................................................................Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
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4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. ----------------------- I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. I AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOU HERE. I PREFER WM6.1 AS IT IS MORE ADAPTED TO THE HARDWARE OF P3600. BTW, ISN'T TOMME45i'S ROM FOR THE NEXT MODEL (3600i) ONLY? MY DEVICE HAS 128MB RAM, SO I ASSUME IS THE MODEL WITHOUT "i" .
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here --------------------------.
AS PER THE METHOD OF FLASHING: YOU RECCOMEND THE ACTIVESYNC ONE.
BUT I HAVE READ A LOT OF COMPLAINTS SAYING THE DEVICE LOOSE THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE PC DURING IT. THEREFORE I AM THINKING OVER THE SDCARD METHOD OF FLASHING. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT IT?
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
ISN'T OPERA CONSUMES MORE RAM THAN IE6 ?
AND LAST QUESTION: WITH ALL THE ROMS YOU HAVE TESTED, CAN YOU SAY WHICH OF THE ORIGINAL APPS AND FUNCTIONS ON THE DEVICE ARE NOT WORKING DEFINITELY WITH MOST OF THEM? E.G. WHAT WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE MAKING A NEW ROM FLASH?
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
To start with, it's very important to know if you have a P3600 or P3600i. The P3600 has 64MB RAM and 128MB Flash, the P3600i has 128MB RAM and 256MB Flash. The upgrade ROMS are designed to work specifically with each version of the phone.
Tomme45i's ROM I link to in the tutorial is definitely for the P3600 (SPV M700) because I had it on my handset for weeks and it worked perfectly.
I don't know what a G3 or G4 device is? Sorry
Your radio version looks very old. I would get that upgraded to the 1.56.70.11
Regarding unlocking. It is probably worth doing the 1st step anyway. Even though you're phone might be SIM unlocked to use any provider, it might still be CID locked, which means it can only use the stock ROM that came with the device. You might need to CID unlock it to allow you to change your ROM.
That way, if you do the first step, you will get used to the ROM Update Utility screens and it won't matter that they are in Chinese for the 3rd step.
I would recommend OliPro's v1.20 of HardSPL. It is virtually impossible to brick you're phone using this and you will really struggle to get the 1.56.70.11 Radio on there if you use anything else. It's the only one I found that would allow me to upgrade the Radio.
As mentioned above, I've tried lots of combinations of software and the steps in the guide were the best way to get it all to work perfectly for me.
Windows Mobile 6.5 is much better for finger friendly use. Windows 6.1 still uses a lot of the old menu styles which you usually need a stylus for. I hate Windows Mobile 6.1 now and would always look for a 6.5 ROM. When I say that these devices are not made for 6.5, I only refer to all the extra really fancy bits of the software like TouchFlo3D, CHome etc etc
Some of the 6.5 ROMs are very fast and very clean (no extra fancy bits) especially Tomme45i's. I would strongly recommend you go for a 6.5 ROM and not a 6.1. Even the 6.5 by Nashorn I recommend in a later post is very fast and looks great with the Manila2D. I use it now instead of the more plain Tomme45i ROM. You also get the gestures support so you can sweep your finger across the screen to move menus (like the iPhone) which is very cool.
Regarding the technique used to flash the ROM, I can't comment. I've never used the SD card technique. I have flashed my phone over 20 times using the USB cable and never had a problem. What could be easier than plugging it in to the PC and double clicking a program.
I like the way with Opera you can scroll around a bigger page by dragging you finger and zoom by double clicking, however I found that Opera does not support online streaming video. I now use IE8 which is included in the Nashorn ROM. It's very nice. You can even choose to browse as a desktop device (so you get all the pages rendered normally) or a mobile device ( so you get the reduced size pages) which is a very nice feature. As you experiment with the software, you find what you like and what you don't like. It's all personal choice, what is good for me won't be good for everyone. It's just a guide after all
Of all the ROMs I've tested I've never found any of the basic things that come with Windows Mobile missing. They all usually have Office, Windows messenger, Media player etc etc. I've never found myself having to sacrifice anything to run a new ROM, you usually just find extra things you didn't know you needed
I would say, a finger keyboard is very important, the combination of a 6.5 ROM and finger keyboard means you never have to get your stylus out any more. Both the ROM's I recommend come with a Finger Keyboard included.
It's just a case of finding Cabs for the things you want extra, S2U2, GAlarm, TomTom etc.
I hope I've been able to answer all your questions. Most of what you're asking is just a question of what you like. This is why they always say, 'Just try things until you find what you like'. I wrote this guide so that people who didn't really know what they were doing could get a feel for it and then experiment on their own.
Best of luck, and don't forget to donate to a chef if you like his cooking. That way they will continue to cook for us on this old hardware.
Nice thread - very informative. When I think of the fun and games I had when I first found XDA Developers and downloaded what I needed to unlock my Orange SPV M700 (had several screens open and several downloads on the go)
I have the Narshorn WM6.5 build with Manilla 2D and it has given my phone a whole new lease of life (I was getting bored of WM6 and was looking to buy a new WM6.5 device)
Stuck in Tri-Color screen
Hi,
Thanks for composing all the steps here in an easy to follow manner.
My phone is in super CID mode.
I'm running Vista ultimate.
Whenever I try any of the steps you've specified, they phone goes to the boot loader and remains in tri-color mode. The connection with vista mobile device center is cut off, but the phone itself is not stuck. If you disconnect the USB it says "serial" and if you connect it, it goes back to "usb".
Nothing more happens.
I tried SD flashing as well (renamed the file as specified), but it doesn't do anything. I can start the boot loader, but it doesn't do anything.
I've searched the forums for the error 260, but found nothing useful for flashing with vista.
I also tried unchecking the "allow USB connections" in the mobile device center, but then the device just doesn't connect.
What step am I missing?
Thanks.
Hmmmm
Unfortunately I don't use Vista so I haven't researched any problems associated with it. I know people suggest downgrading the USB drivers or if possible using an XP machine to do the flashing. There is no reason why the SD card technique shouldn't work although I haven't tried it myself.
It might be worth posting on the main board with your problems. I wrote this guide with nothing more than my own experiences in mind and unfortunately haven't had a vast amount of experience at this myself. Maybe I was just lucky to have got it right first time.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help and I hope you get it sorted soon. It's well worth persisting because getting WM6.5 on the old Trinity will transform it and give your years (or at least months) more life out of it. Unitl you get bored and want more power to play with all the cool new features like Touchflo 3D etc
Thanks
Thanks anyway. I'll start my quest for an XP machine.
Great ! It works !
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
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Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
AxxlPPC said:
and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
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The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
As I said in the first post:
Chimpsinties said:
You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
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This means you will have access to all the other languages for the finger keyboard. The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
AxxlPPC said:
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
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Don't you have to enable the video calling in advanced options? or maybe download a small fix .cab file that will enable it? I can't remember right now. I've only ever used video calling once and that was just to see what it was like.
I'm glad yo got it to work anyway
Now you can try other ROMs and see which one you like most. I'm still loving nashorns rom with Manila2D but I think he's been having problems with it recently.
It can be tempting to stick with one ROM just because you have got it working. Soon you'll be so good at reflashing it'll only take you about an hour to do it and get all your programs and settings back exactly how they were.
How?
AxxlPPC said:
Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
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Question, did you do this in Vista?
Correction !
orenroot said:
Question, did you do this in Vista?
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No, on an XP netbook (LenovoS10e).
there were several reports in the thread Vista has to be updated with some drivers before being capable to do the flash on Trinity.
I want to correct myself in a point:
MN7.43 starts, but crashes under WM6.5 I am still trying to find a workaround about that.
I've made all the changes to my Orange Spv M700 according to Your great guide!
It looks great!
Can anyone tell me which IGO8 runs on this ROM?
How can I change the default ringtone please? It gives me three choices without being able to browse to other ringtones....
I've got about 600 contacts I don't want to change them one by one....
Thank You!
Hello everyone,
OK, here is my first go at ROM cooking.
I was looking for a very basic ROM with only must-have applications inside, so that I can later install the software I *do* use. Eventually I gave up, as all the ROMs and even the Lite'est ones had too much features / utilities. I thought I would then take the latest official ROM available (for stability purpose) and trim it down to minimum elements (for size reduction).
Herewith is what I ended up with:
http://rapidshare.com/files/3829100....25.91_Signed_Ship_trimmed_by_aziraphale_.rar
This in no way can be called a "cooked" ROM, I still know nothing about cooking, but it is a heavily trimmed stock ROM, created by the use of RhodiumKitchen_0.1, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560519.
Thanks Dave for this Tutorial and all the credits go to respective tools' developers.
How to install:
- unrar
- connect with ActiveSync (or loader in USB mode)
(goes without saying Your device must be Hard-SPL'd or modified any other way to allow ROM flashing - search the forum)
- execute RomUpdateUtility.exe
There are some residual unnecessary and/or invalid shortcuts in the Start Menu,
as well as some empty folders, I manually removed them by the use of EveryWAN personal edition - it's free and it's easy to use.
The OS is 6.5 b21887
I have trimmed the following from the stock ROM:
HTC applications:
- appointment editor
- clear storage (can do Hard reset in normal way)
- facebook / engine
- format SD (can't a PC do that?)
- CoPilot + install path folder (I use TomTom)
- birthday
- bookmark
- messaging client (hate it)
- jblend
- jetcet
- manila all
- opera (when You install newer version You end up with 2 )
- sliding sounds
- social networks engine
- streaming media
- tv out
- youtube
- volume control
- google maps (same as with opera)
- setting improvement
- text selection
- wifi wizard
- browser snapshot
- ie6 enhancement
- world card mobile (BCR)
- rss hub
System:
- live search
- wm widgets
- win live
- welcome center
- transcriber
- skymarket
- one note
- remote desktop
- themes except Rock and Republic
- my phone (skybox)
- livesearch
I do not expect this to become very useful to most of the forum visitors/members, but perhaps there is someone out there who have not found his/her way around to make ROMs him(her)self yet, but would like to get the very basic ROM with no extras.
Very hard to define "must have" apps. I personally prefer WM6.1 over WM6.5. Bad thing is you can't install every app\functionality by using CAB's. Otherwise you could create a ROM of around 40MB. Mine is currently ~70MB and is just great for my personal use.
Might be handy to add to the first post that your ROM is actually a WM6.5 ROM
Good luck on the cooking!
mccune said:
Very hard to define "must have" apps. I personally prefer WM6.1 over WM6.5. Bad thing is you can't install every app\functionality by using CAB's. Otherwise you could create a ROM of around 40MB. Mine is currently ~70MB and is just great for my personal use.
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You said it yourself - the "must-have" are the ones that can not be added by .cabs and will compromise phone functionality (like the HTC dialer skin will enable video calls, thus must stay)
mccune said:
Might be handy to add to the first post that your ROM is actually a WM6.5 ROM
Good luck on the cooking!
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the "2.07.401.1" implies 6.5, but added to description anyway, thanks
Good effort dude I did much the same a month or so ago with an amalgamation of Ervius Visual Kitchen (so easy) and JoshKoss kitchen. Didn't go as savage on the removal of stuff though, main objective was to get rid of the HTC Messaging
Just tried May 1st 23xxx EnergyROM with MaxManila but it cuts off MP3 playback in standby (a big no-no for me) and hung once already while texting MaxManila is nice though, and the Facebook tab is good. I usually stick to 21xxx but I must say 23xxx is growing on me with the latest build. Gonna try Cell Pro next.
I like the latest stuff but keeping up with it all is a nightmare if you're cooking. Wouldn't mind the latest 2.5 Manila packages and latest 21xxx / 23xxx SYS, also would try cooking in MaxManila, and I never managed to cook in "mark all as read" for emails properly. Need to learn how to hack on Manila. Also I forgot to cook in a task manager haha Ameba is quite nice on the latest EnergyROM. I definitely get the "why cook it in if you can get it from Marketplace / OMarket and auto update it" though, totally with you on that one instead of flashing a new ROM every week. I usually flash a new one every month or so, once I find one I like. But for the last month or so I've been running my own. It wasn't the fastest ROM ever though
It's a lot of work to make a decent ROM, and it's finding the time innit. I'm a big fan of JoshKoss but he hasn't released anything in a while
Anyway good effort dude the more the merrier I say
Also just a quick note I did get the Standby Of Death a couple of times on my cooked ROM. Very rare but still. No idea why. Don't know if it happens with the stock ROM or not.
Would like to know how to totally remove HTC messaging, sometimes when texting via Manila it would still give the conversation view which runs like a dog when you have 4,800 messages hehe
And the speakerphone sometimes screwed up - I could hear the other party but they couldn't hear me.
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Also just a quick note I did get the Standby Of Death a couple of times on my cooked ROM. Very rare but still. No idea why. Don't know if it happens with the stock ROM or not.
Would like to know how to totally remove HTC messaging, sometimes when texting via Manila it would still give the conversation view which runs like a dog when you have 4,800 messages hehe
And the speakerphone sometimes screwed up - I could hear the other party but they couldn't hear me.
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Before going through the trouble of surgically removing the rudimentary software myself, I have tried a few "professionally" (read: respect, not sarcasm) cooked Energy and Leo ROMs, most of them VERY recent, but I found them SOOO packed with tweaks and features, that it would take me ages just to discover all the extras. I am more on the simplier side, don't fix something which is not broken, but I just HATE Manila (expect a lot of angry protestors here) and I am not big fan of HTC customisations either. Hence was this ROM done and I am so far rather happy with it.
There is no sign of HTC messaging which I can find, and I can install and use only necessary (for me) bits of software.
For "mark all as read" there is a really good .cab on the forum, called "safeboxextender", it works like a charm and I don't mind having to install it separately (i.e. not. cooked-in).
Having come from 1.86 ROM to 2.07 I do notice that device keeps hanging even without being put to sleep, but I can not figure out the dependency yet (I mean so far it looks rather random).
Aziraphale_l said:
Before going through the trouble of surgically removing the rudimentary software myself, I have tried a few "professionally" cooked Energy and Leo ROMs, most of them VERY recent, but I found them SOOO packed with tweaks and features, that it would take me ages just to discover all the extras.
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Yeah me too, those guys have spent probably 100's if not 1000's of hours on learning this stuff, then putting it together in a manner that pleases a lot of different people. Major kudos. I sometimes get the feeling though particularly with chefs who release almost every day, for a number of different devices, that the care and testing leaves something to be desired. Quite often more does not = better as you know
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I am more on the simplier side, don't fix something which is not broken, but I just HATE Manila (expect a lot of angry protestors here) and I am not big fan of HTC customisations either.
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Yeah fair enough mate although I am a big fan of Manila 2.5 and MaxManila is quite nice
Aziraphale_l said:
For "mark all as read" there is a really good .cab on the forum, called "safeboxextender", it works like a charm and I don't mind having to install it separately (i.e. not. cooked-in).
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Yeah I tried converting that to an EXT and cooking it in but it didn't work I know it can be done though cos a lot of ROMs have it built in. To be honest I don't really have enough time anymore to dedicate to my own ROM so I'm trying out a few others.
Aziraphale_l said:
Having come from 1.86 ROM to 2.07 I do notice that device keeps hanging even without being put to sleep, but I can not figure out the dependency yet (I mean so far it looks rather random).
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It's weird ... Mine's never hung while running but I've had the SOD two or three times. More research required, until then just stick the pen up it's arse haha
Could you release an additional version with a later build SYS (ie: 23XXX or 28XXX)? A lot of people use 6.5.5 or 6.5.3 and there are no Lite options for those later builds.
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Could you release an additional version with a later build SYS (ie: 23XXX or 28XXX)? A lot of people use 6.5.5 or 6.5.3 and there are no Lite options for those later builds.
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i'd love to, but....
as i said i am no cook and i only did it for myself and cared enough to share with anyone who'd love to have it "as is".
also, see the respective later-release ROM threads to see how many bugs are there still and ROM-cooking gurus are eliminating them one by one and it's a long and painstaking process. i have neither time, nor ability to do that.
so i guess this is as much as i can do so far.
I've been using the ROM for a few days now and it is great. Everything works perfect. Bluetooth, tethering, wifi, data connections; it all works great with no bugs Thanks for sharring. I love a clean ROM.
jamespaulritter said:
I've been using the ROM for a few days now and it is great. Everything works perfect. Bluetooth, tethering, wifi, data connections; it all works great with no bugs Thanks for sharring. I love a clean ROM.
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very good!
Well I think I have ran the gamet of tezts and this ROM is perfect. It is fast and stable trimmed down well but still offering everything a user needs. I am on AT&T in the states and it works perfect. The only thing I cant figure out is how do I shut of the vibration when using the on screen key board? And can I add a picture mail program to my device? Would it function properly and could you recommend one?
jamespaulritter said:
...how do I shut of the vibration when using the on screen key board?
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that would be by manually editing registry key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\TFLOSettings]
"ApVibrationOn"=dword:00000000
it is 1 by default, change it to 0 and you are all set
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And can I add a picture mail program to my device? Would it function properly and could you recommend one?
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this here i am not sure what you mean?
whatever you add (install) SHOULD function properly, if it would have on a stock ROM,
as i have not made any changes to remaining ROM bits
edit: if you open Albums and select any picture You want, it will open in full screen, tap it, and 4 icon menu comes up, 3rd from the left with 2 arrows > tap this one and there is an option *mail*.
select the account (i would use email) and voila! is that what you were looking for?
Thanks Aziraphale_l I was talking about MMS. I want to send and receive picture mail with text messaging. Right now I cant send or recieve pictures except with email. But of course my friends do not have pda phones so we use MMS picture mail.
I was guessing this is what you said you removed. I looked for arcsoft for 6.5 and I see that HTC is now using "HTC Message" so I will go look for that. Thanks again.
Maybe this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624375
With these settings from the same thread.
Server Name: Cingular MMS
Gateway: wireless.cingular.com
Port:80
Server address: http://mmsc.cingular.com
Connect via: Media Net
Send Limit: 300k
Wap Version: 2.0
I'll try to send an MMS tomorrow.
jamespaulritter said:
Thanks Aziraphale_l I was talking about MMS. I want to send and receive picture mail with text messaging. Right now I cant send or recieve pictures except with email. But of course my friends do not have pda phones so we use MMS picture mail.
I was guessing this is what you said you removed. I looked for arcsoft for 6.5 and I see that HTC is now using "HTC Message" so I will go look for that. Thanks again.
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HTC messaging, which I understand handles MMS functionality in our devices, has evolved into... well, something I did not like any more, so it had to go.
I personally don't use MMS, so it is no big deal for me.
Your ArcSoft link below - I see no reason why it will not work, give it a try? You can then share Your findings with the rest of us.
P.S. Battery life on this ROM is the best I have ever seen!
I have tried a dozen ROMs and I usually stick with them for a month or so I guess. They are either lite with bugs or heavy with eye candy and bugs. So far I haven't had a single issue with yours. I think many developers get in to much of a hurry. I appreciate the great job you did on this.
I notice today that to get from one task to another, one program to another or one event to another I use fewer steps because everything is simple and functional. Thanks again.
I cooked in Arcsoft_MMS_5_2_8_45 on mine, after pulling out HTC Messaging, if I remember rightly it worked but it's very rare I use MMS anyway. If you install it afterwards, re-run carrier provisioning (or whatever it's called ... where it sets up your network settings automatically) and it should configure Arcsoft for ya.
Right now I'm running EnergyROM 23xxx from 1st of May but battery is suffering and it crashes a bit, not mega fast either. It is a nice flashy ROM tho I used to hate 23xxx and much prefer 21xxx but lately I'm kinda undecided.
Thanks for the haptic feedback registry edit; works great.
Also with regard to cooking in SafeInboxExtender look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=677105
Hi to all,i'm looking for a qwerty-keyboard phone for my gf,and i can't afford umts Blackberry (she has h3g sim),is this phone a good choice,even if it's really old?
I've found it for 90 €,it seems good to me,but i don't want to buy a too slow device.
I'm used to HTC Diamond,which has slightly better hardware but suffers using 3d manila and stuff "overrated" for its hw (despite the claims they sold it with in the past ).
Is Tytn II still good for 2d stuff and normal everyday usage?
I even see it has a dedicated android section,so maybe its better than diamond at handling it,this would be sweet too
Let me know,thanks for help
The build quility is superb, an incredible bit of engineering.
Graphics can be slow for heavy gamers or GPS applications. I really liked mine, only moved on as had it stolen.
I was on a 6.1 standard ROM & it ran very well for all basic phone tasks such as emailing sms/mms ect & handling office docs was good too.
I used it as a modem for notebook internet too. Wifi & BT worked ok & keyboard plus d-pad were nice in function.
Only downside is the weight of the device but for the price today it is incredible value for money, you will only find a few devices that feel such quality in build.
The tilt screen is very cool & they do look good sat on a desk in full tilt.
If she likes the look of it get it, plenty of tweaks & support for the Kaiser so should still be a fun device.
Not so good that it suffers gps apps,but i guess its normal...
And is it good to use limiting touchscreen inputs (she hates touchscreen )?
I mean,except for opening start menu,is it usable with hardware buttons,more than touch?
Yes it is very good in terms of button function.
I improved button function by using mortscripts that would change button function pending on active window & reg keys such as headphones connected, active sync connect ect.
Even the screen is quite good when you need to use it.
Touchscreens are over rated in usability, the touch diamond 2 would of been fantastic if it had a small joy stick d-pad in the centre under buttons but no you have to struggle with that ****e zoom bar touch panel which only has movement in 2 directions.
Tactile feel of buttons can never be replaced by a screen period.
I could do functions on my Kaiser without looking at it as buttons could act like brale.
The slow graphic issue didn't seem that bad to me, I used mapking & Garmin with no issues & played games such as Duke Nukem without issues.
I'm on a touch pro at the moment, I like it but miss the solid build of the Kaiser, it feels unbreakable ...
You could also look at the HTC S710 !
Just bought for my gf...its ****ing awesome,compared to my plastic-breaking-with-breath diamond :asd:
Just waiting to learn how to unlock
Speaking about cooked rom,any suggestion about a speedy rom (not necessarily manila,it just should be "handy to use" and light)?
And should i try android (aka is it fast and functional enough?)
Thanks everybody
edit: oh,and how can i check if it has hardspl installed already?
I was on latest standard rom with graphics driver from HTCCA.
I would start off on a standard ROM unless you spot an interesting custom ROM which has solid feedback.
To view HardSPL version go to bootloader mode:
-Enter Bootloader mode: Hold Camera + Power buttons together and reset with stylus
(exit bootloader by pressing soft reset button)
-HardReset: Hold Talk and End soft key - Reset :When prompted push Green Talk Button
This is the unlock tools I used: (Not sure if supports 3 network !)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3432892&postcount=10
Thanks Mister B,we are on stock 6.1 rom too...and i'd like to install graphics driver,can i do it without any risk?and where can i take them from?
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Thanks Mister B,we are on stock 6.1 rom too...and i'd like to install graphics driver,can i do it without any risk?and where can i take them from?
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Go to the ROM development section, read through the FAQ links. That will give you some basic ideas what is available, etc.
If you want great batt life with plenty of memory, use WM 6.1, not 6.5 ..
To know which ROM is best, read through the last pages (10 - 20)of each thread, the feedback from the users will give you overall view. Why I suggested 10-20, because for old ROM that chef has left, recent posts are usually useless, repeating old questions again and again.
°Dexter° said:
Thanks Mister B,we are on stock 6.1 rom too...and i'd like to install graphics driver,can i do it without any risk?and where can i take them from?
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Link below:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/download/HTC-CA-Kaiser-Drivers.cab
It is un-installable & should be no problem.
Make sure that stock 6.1 is the latest release. I can dig out a serial if you require ROM downloading direct from htc website.
how can i find if it's the latest release (i thought there was just one)?
I should have a serial number on mine too,for downloading,or am i missing something?
Thanks for all your help,anyway
@anagarika:wm 6.1 is for sure, even my diamond suffers from 6.5
ps:i entered bootloader,it says SPL 3.29,i guess it's still the original one
Latest HTC generic ROM is:
HTC TyTN II_RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.exe
You can see ROM version in Settings device information.
If your device is branded your serial will not work with HTC website, so you will need a serial of a generic HTC kaiser ;-)
Your SPL is original. Installing the hardSPL is easy & unlocking can be quite straight forward but may require downgrading to wm6 ROM to unlock & then upgrading to a 6.1 rom of your choice.
My rom is 3.29.408.o ITA,other stuff is lke you posted...i guess it's the latest one then
Newest Italian is:
_HTC TyTN II_WM6.1_MR2_RUU_Kaiser_HTC_ITA_3.29.408.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship.zip
So looks like your on newest ROM.
I already had d3d drivers ("previous version will be uninstalled")...all these concerns for nothing
Anyway i installed spb mobile shell 3.5,themed,and it's a good mid-point between eyecandy and memory usage...
I only have some hang-ups when i make some operations too fast (e.g. i open and reclose very fast an app),making me have to reboot the phone...but it only happens sometimes,and i guess it's related to mobile shell
I tried to install updated camera app yesterday (nadavi 5.xx) but then camera screen turned black,so i uninstalled.
I installed htc album too,but its menus are blank (i can select them with left and right keys,but nothing's written down)...do you know which version of these packages works for sure?
edit:i fixed camera problem,but album issue is still there,although i tried two different versions
Mmm don't know which HTC album viewer is your best option, I used Resco Photo viewer Pro as far surpases the HTC app.
Tried it,perfect program
Thanks a lot (i think there's no way to oc the cpu a little,right?)
Nope, just don't use CPU & graphic heavy software. Mine run sweet & was very usable.