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I was aiming for the Sensation but the price is out of range for me so I figured I'd have to settle for the solution right below it (Nope, not the Desire HD)
Incredible S - A phone with all my needs, a perfect screen size, great camera, great-looking (I'm probably the only one who thinks so lol) .. Even if the bootloader's currently locked i'm not the type who won't use a device unless root, we got WidgetLocker, Go Launcher and other stuff not to mention the original Sense UI is awesome
But one thing i'm concerned about -- the sound quality, I read that GSMArena review and they said it was bad .. I'll basically use the phone I buy as my music player so that matters to me a lot, and earphones sound is more important than speaker sound for me
What's your experiences with the sound quality ? If it's great, i'll head out and buy this phone since it's perfect besides that, if it isn't i'll buy the Desire S which means i'll have to settle for an average camera .. I need positive clarification before I get the S.
I use PowerAmp as my musicplayer, and with the build in equalizer and SRS Enhancement and a good pair of earplugs, i think the sound is just fine.
jkolner said:
I use PowerAmp as my musicplayer, and with the build in equalizer and SRS Enhancement and a good pair of earplugs, i think the sound is just fine.
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Thanks, what do you think of the speaker sound, then ?
a good pair of earphones will get u going in no time, as for the loudspeaker, they're quite soft and there'll be static noise n distortion if turned to the max. it's htc, it's normal x
IMO ...use custom earphones and a good sound manager like poweramp...the sound is quite good for a phone.
But yeah the speakers are just average! dont expect too much from them.
but overall u wont regret buying this phone
Ok, thanks guys ! I have my eyes set on it now.
I had an iphone before my IS, and the sound on the IS is a lot better than iphone using Poweramp
The quality of the phone/sound is nice, will try with my stereo nokia bt hedest at home, and chk beck to tell.
Also htc makes awfull earphones, its literally hurt my ears, so one need to change that!
Hi guys,
I know this seems strange, but I'm a bit concerned about the loudness of the headphone volume based on reviews. I hear it is really loud, this seems like a bad thing to me?
On my s2, I am running dorimanx kernel so I can lower headphone volume, as it is too loud to listen to music on lowest settings. I also use power amp as it is quieter than other players. I listen to metal, which seems to be more of an issue than other styles of music due to the density of sound. I have tried multiple headphones, so not an issue there.
Has anyone had any experiences with the one that can calm my fears?
Cheers guys
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No it's fine if you got power amp you can turn it down quite low I use power amp I don't have any problems at all
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Hi guys,
I know this seems strange, but I'm a bit concerned about the loudness of the headphone volume based on reviews. I hear it is really loud, this seems like a bad thing to me? *** snipped ***
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It's really loud, especially with the Beats in-ear headphones. I was surprised that it was such good quality though. Deep bass and hi treble. Excellent earphones.
I would root the device and get an app that can give you -100% to +100% control of your volume. If you install another ROM, you will lose the Beats EQ which is responsible for processing the audio and you will lose quality.
Good luck!
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It's really loud, especially with the Beats in-ear headphones. I was surprised that it was such good quality though. Deep bass and hi treble. Excellent earphones.
I would root the device and get an app that can give you -100% to +100% control of your volume. If you install another ROM, you will lose the Beats EQ which is responsible for processing the audio and you will lose quality.
Good luck!
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Thanks! I've heard that the quality is great. I haven't come across any apps that allow this? Have been using custom kernels for this. Would you say that on lowest volume it's not too loud? I have noise canceling cans, not inner ears.
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I'm considering picking up this phone and I've seen quite a few claims that if you disabling Beats will "replace the beats profile with one that reduces audio quality" instead.
Anyone confirm/deny this? If it's true, does it make a large difference? Are there any ways (Custom ROM, kernel, etc..) that fixes this problem?
PLEASE NOTE: I do not want comments on how the beats audio sounds better than anything else - I want comments on if turning it OFF will degrade the sound quality as some people claim.
It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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bornotty said:
There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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jdgreat4 said:
It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
imho, it seems just making the volume louder, but cannot hear much difference... would anyone advise me if there is some kind of settings/ EQ etc? I can't find that... thanks
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Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser, meaning that it adjusts to the audio input so that the output isn't distorted and sounds as good as it can on a software level, sure you can create sound like this with an EQ, but then you may have to create sound profiles for ever genre rather than just playing it, but for the record it creates better sound quality which is consistent with all music types that i've tried it with. (magic )
Bass is stronger, delivering a crisper yet softer bass as opposed to a punchy crackle which you'll find on other handsets, trebles are fair and i've heard much louder but in terms of actual clarity it's right up there with the best, mid levels are decent too, so if you want a treble sounding phone then this isn't for you, but for everything else and for the whole package this is where it's at.
I'm referring to the sound that the phone itself delivers, if you were to couple this with a decent set of headphones (i got a pair of solo beats for free with my phone from carphone warehouse, i think they've sold out now) the sound is phenomenal, for picking up and playing a song it is second to none, not the galaxy s4 nor any of the other top of the range handsets can compare to it, the reason for this is because HTC has obviously done it's homework for the audio part of the system and used it as a major selling point.
I'm by no means a music enthusiast but i love them and several of my friends who are music enthusiasts (some producers and DJ's) have said that the sound is superb, obviously not as good as a studio but lets not forget that this is a phone that we're talking about here and for what it is it won't be beaten.
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AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser
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Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
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Bass is stronger
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That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?
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Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?
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Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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None of these replies have answered my question about it though. so let me rephase:
I've seen several reviews claim that this phone use 2 different profiles for Beats audio;
1. The ON profile which activates the "enhancement"
2. The OFF profile which, rather than just deactivating beats audio, will reduce the sound quality below that of what the DAC is capable of.
Now may I have any comments relevant to this question (rather than just saying the sound quality of this phone is good or bad).
Also, not all stores here allow you to try out the phones like so unfortunately.
EDIT: Thanks to the LinusTechTips forum I found this video which pretty much explains what I've been saying: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdbn_pmxFic
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Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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I think it's much clearer, and s bit louder. But clearer. I used to have an HTC sensation, where in the middle of your video or music you had a toggle to turn off Beats. And trust me, there is a difference. I even record university lectures on it, and beats tunes out the background noise and boosts that of the speaker. It does wonders . But you can always get the phone and turn off Beats and download an equalizer from the pay store.
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We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones. The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
3. Turning off beats does not seem to activate an "intentionally low quality profile." That wouldn't make any sense, it's just a tweaked equalizer...
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We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones (you mention in passing a pair of sens). The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
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Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.
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Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.
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Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.
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Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.
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Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Sorry meant galaxy nexus
Hello Guys
I want to get the SP , but I heard from some reviews that it have a very low audio volume when using headphones , is that true? and if it is true how low is it, I'm taking the subway everyday to work and I'm afraid that I won't hear my music , I don't care about the loudspeakers I'm setting my phones to vibration anyway. thanks
Its loud on headset but a noun for the ear.
Maybe the end of the test jis helpful.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sp-review-924p7.php
But u can change
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2370047
joke19 said:
Its loud on headset but a noun for the ear.
Maybe the end of the test jis helpful.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sp-review-924p7.php
But u can change
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2370047
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yes I saw the gsmarena test but it says on the description the sound when pluging a headphone is pretty low
hmmm , I guess I'll look for something else , too lame that sony is one of the leading companies in Audio products but they can't make a phone with proper audio quality .
I like the sp so much it looks good perform good but something little as sound volume can mess it up.
No complaints here. I use headphones while running and I use etymotics while on the motorcycle (in a helmet). I'm no audiophile and it sounds just great to me. Clean and crisp.
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No complaints here. I use headphones while running and I use etymotics while on the motorcycle (in a helmet). I'm no audiophile and it sounds just great to me. Clean and crisp.
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Thanks for replying , but what do u think about the loudness , is it enough or its low?
The standard headset that comes with the SP just sucks, plug in your average headphones and there is nothing to complain about..
Thanks a lot guys
the sound is awesome, like others have said the standard earphones suck terribly. i use my sp with a surround system in my room and it sounds just as good as my mac or iPod which have magnificent audio. the built in speaker is LOUD much louder than an iPhone or s4 and theres minimal distortion at max volume
Hello
I would like the Z1 buy but can I read nothing about the volume in ears . I'll nähmlich from HTC One M7 and there is the output very loud , could somebodies of the device has test as it is loud about in ears .
Thank you
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I would like the Z1 buy but can I read nothing about the volume in ears . I'll nähmlich from HTC One M7 and there is the output very loud , could somebodies of the device has test as it is loud about in ears .
Thank you
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The quality is really good with good bass and it's also pretty loud.
I'm impressed.
Hi there, i have the Zuk Z1 since yesterday, I came from a Nexus 4 and I can tell the audio chip/DAC of the Z1 is really good for a phone ! Compared to my N⁴, there's a HUUUUGE difference in stereo image, dynamics and the amping is very good (nearly 2× more volume on the Z1). I wasn't waiting for so much
For information, I own a 450€ audio interface (SPL Crimson) for my music production and listening which has very good preamps and converters + an AKG Y55 headphones (and monitoring speakers for music production) so I guess you can trust me when I say that the Z1 has a really good audio chip/DAC for a phone ^^
Cheers
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Hi there, i have the Zuk Z1 since yesterday, I came from a Nexus 4 and I can tell the audio chip/DAC of the Z1 is really good for a phone ! Compared to my N⁴, there's a HUUUUGE difference in stereo image, dynamics and the amping is very good (nearly 2× more volume on the Z1). I wasn't waiting for so much
For information, I own a 450€ audio interface (SPL Crimson) for my music production and listening which has very good preamps and converters + an AKG Y55 headphones (and monitoring speakers for music production) so I guess you can trust me when I say that the Z1 has a really good audio chip/DAC for a phone ^^
Cheers
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What kind of music do you produce?
Im a producer as well. Drum n bass, crossbred, hardcore and sometimes dubstep.
@MUG3NHC Nice to meet some others music producers ^^ I would like to hear what you're doing
Personnaly, I often blend Rock elements (Guitars & Bass) with Electronic music. As now I've tried Drum'n'Bass (which I do really like), standard EDM/Dance music, Dubstep, Glitch, Dark Ambient, Progressive Rock, Metal, Funk, etc... ^^ my latest production (work still in progress) is more EDM related (I wanted to try something different, with a more mainstream approach, still it combines dance with glitch and dubstep but also one very discrete rock guitar and bass ^^)
Link here : http://picosong.com/SD8N/
Dirac power sound included according to Dirac (but not mentioned by zuk in specification plus dedicated noise cancelling earphones via usb type c will appear as aftermarket item).
The Chinese launch was accompanied by a music box gift so there seems to be some focus on the audio quality. I can't find any specific details of the DAC though (in the same way that xiaomi and letv advertise HiFi audio and dedicated processor).
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@MUG3NHC Nice to meet some others music producers ^^ I would like to hear what you're doing
Personnaly, I often blend Rock elements (Guitars & Bass) with Electronic music. As now I've tried Drum'n'Bass (which I do really like), standard EDM/Dance music, Dubstep, Glitch, Dark Ambient, Progressive Rock, Metal, Funk, etc... ^^ my latest production (work still in progress) is more EDM related (I wanted to try something different, with a more mainstream approach, still it combines dance with glitch and dubstep but also one very discrete rock guitar and bass ^^)
Link here : http://picosong.com/SD8N/
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To be honest, your tune is a little bit too dancy for me.
Matter of taste tho.
I've got a lot of tunes on my pc, but a lot of them aren't mixed, so i only have 3 on my soundcloud atm:
https://m.soundcloud.com/pur3h8
@MUG3NHC i do really like your music called Night Rain, great ambience
I told you this last song I shared was more dancy/mainstream than what I usually do ^^ Here's an old production of mine which is a more ambient track (on my YouTube channel) : http://youtu.be/gUd10n92jL8