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WHY NO EQUALIZER on any Android phone??

1 or 2 program zic with an equalizer but no program to boost the bass or do like all MP3 player!
Strange no ?

As a person who enjoys quality music, I'd tell you to use your headphones to color the sound rather than the player. It's better to have more bass-responsive headphones than to boost bass and make it sound like crap, if bass is what you're looking for.
Just a note though, most people don't even know what the heck bass is, and seem to think mid-bass is good.
Sorry for the rant. I guess I appreciate quality more than most people.

Soaa-, I agree with you - half anyway. I have pretty damn good earphones - and it's always good to have an EQ, even if someone doesn't have good ear/headphones - or if they are using the Hero's speaker/s, it is still nice to have an equalizer - to change your music into noise - or to make it seem less tinny. Or whatever.
Bottom line: We need an EQ app; at the same priority as an app that can play your music backwards and at different speeds...

How hard can it be?

n00b001 said:
How hard can it be?
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SAmsung galaxy s vs nokia (nokia gets edge)

Hi guys...
I recently bought the samaung galaxy s and I am very disappointed about the music quality (basically the very poor bass or bassless audio) ..
Being suspicious of wether it's the stock headset performing bad or it's the galaxy itself which sucks I decided to conduct an experiment..
I connected the stock headset of samaung galaxy to nokia's 5230 and I was very shocked believe me the music quality..the bass was rich and exactly what I wanted...
Now I connected the stock headphones to my Sony NWZ-E443 Walkman...and violaaa...even better music and bass....
Now I've installed the vodoo sound kernel, but it doesn't do much with the bass..heard people suggestions for buying senhisser or sony's headphones..but I am worried about one fact is that why isn't the same stock headphones performing good in my galaxy S...
Has it got something to do with impedance, sensitivity and other technical stuff..or simply it's not the galaxy cup of tea..
I don't understand why you need to buy $50 headphones from third-party after buying a $650 phone..still being un assured of getting good sound..feels pissed nokia 5230 being $110 performs better
WHATS THE CATCH ?????

My view is the opposite of yours .
Bass is a sound distortion not normal sound .
Measurement should be at neutral as the sound came .
How much the extra bass sounds is also measured with the treble to give the dynamic range .
jje

I use Poweramp from the market, it is a music player but with a built in equaliser with a lot of presets to choose from, you can hit the bass up on that and notice the difference, I know its not a free app, try the 12day trial, better than spending X amount on headphones
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Is it not the galaxy S, that suppose to have one of the best sound chip integrated? (Wolfram something something). Even better than Ipod.

I personally have found the sound on the Galaxy S to be excellent...so much so I have stopped carrying around a separate MP3 player (Zune HD for tha win) when I don't need my full collection with me.
However i would definitely recommend installing a kernel with VooDoo sound to make the most of the hardware. I also use PowerAMP (great, great software with a very useful EQ) and move back and forth between the stock Samsung earbuds when I want to be able to take calls easily while listening, and Etymotic HF5s when I just want to focus on the music.
With a little software/hardware attention, the Galaxy S is a first class music player, without doubt.

From what I've read, it's one of the best sound chips but the drivers suck atm, supercurio seems to be releasing Voodoo drivers up to date as they are released and Voodoo control app updates every other day you can especially notice the difference with the fm radio, make sure your headphone amplifier is on maximum in Voodoo control app and you should see a difference
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The audio is Clear Crisp and loud Enuff !....but as i said vodoo sound kernel, but it doesn't do much with the bass
The audio just lacks the Bass throbs , pumps beats.... somehow i think badly designed equilizer from samsung is the culprit !....

Never say Nokia is better than any Android phone, no matter what!
That said, I enjoy the sound of my Galaxy S but even if some hardcore nerd proves that a Nokia phone -- any one among the lots -- is good in music than SGS, I will still remain too much happy with SGS (aka the best android phone in India).
BTW, try various equalizers in the PowerAMP, you should be good. One more thing though, I think N8 us better in Camera than SGS. But still, if I'm to rate SGS and N8, it would be:
SGS - 8/10
N8 - 4/10 (anyone who doesn't know why, is just lame, or trying to be one)
Android is Future! And you'll hear some newly appointed (other than Elops) nokia chief making an announcement of Android Adoption by Nokia in 2013-14. Sooner, if Nokia's lucky.

Stock head phones will almost always suck. You need to spend a fair bit of money to get accurate sound reproduction. I use a quality set of sealed ear buds with my sgs, and base reproduction is excellent.
A phone company is never going to include the $100+ headphones required for an audiophile with a phone... Most people would never use them, so it would be a waste.
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Chill guys any nokia phone stand nowhere in front of our Galaxy S
just talking about the audio part which bothered me
How about trying these headphones
http://www.sony.co.in/product/mdr-xb20ex
Or any tested suggestions ? Senhiesser may be ?

Problem solved !!! Awesome Music
Solution
Sony MDR-XB40LP
Sony MDR-XB20LP
Sony MDR-XB300
Sony MDR-EX50LP

Consider using Voodoo Sound

Try rock eq in official music player is very amazing mixed with voodoo kernel ... Too Loud and so clean sound, better then any expensive limited mp3 device!
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I had also this "bad" experience with combination of voodoo and poweramp and then I found this thread which solved everything... if you do this with poweramp, remember to disable the eq from PA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921736
Cheers
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Poor sound quality

Hey all
About a week ago my Galaxy S was stolen at a festival, so yesterday I bought myself a second hand O2X. I like it a lot even though there's no stable ICS rom available as of now.
The only thing I dislike about the phone is the fact that it's speaker quality (the bottom one for music/video) is so horribly bad compared to the Galaxy S. Especially when you realize that they advertise this phone as Dolby Mobile capable. It's just so quiet and weak and it does not seem to pronounce any bass or treble correctly.
So I'm asking you O2X users: is there some sort of tweak available that brings out the real power of that speaker?
Running CM7 2.3.7 btw. Thanks!

The speaker itself won't be loud nor specialy good but you can try to flash a kernel with voodoo sound (fe ETaNa's kernel).

he is talking about the SPEAKER sound. voodoo only alters the volume of headphone output.
yeah, its a gripe that the speaker is so quiet, but it actually is a really high quality speaker, only not used to full potential.
what most people do is use the dsp manager app to crank up the freq's at the speaker graphic eq. adds distortion, but what ya gonna do.
f**k LG's "devs"
edit: dolby mobile is pure crap, which works only in original music and video app AND also only works for headphones. (it friggin distorts the bass a lot, i hated it. power amp way better)

[Q] Beats audio sound quality question

I'm considering picking up this phone and I've seen quite a few claims that if you disabling Beats will "replace the beats profile with one that reduces audio quality" instead.
Anyone confirm/deny this? If it's true, does it make a large difference? Are there any ways (Custom ROM, kernel, etc..) that fixes this problem?
PLEASE NOTE: I do not want comments on how the beats audio sounds better than anything else - I want comments on if turning it OFF will degrade the sound quality as some people claim.

It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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bornotty said:
There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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jdgreat4 said:
It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?

imho, it seems just making the volume louder, but cannot hear much difference... would anyone advise me if there is some kind of settings/ EQ etc? I can't find that... thanks

Timmyfoxeh said:
Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser, meaning that it adjusts to the audio input so that the output isn't distorted and sounds as good as it can on a software level, sure you can create sound like this with an EQ, but then you may have to create sound profiles for ever genre rather than just playing it, but for the record it creates better sound quality which is consistent with all music types that i've tried it with. (magic )
Bass is stronger, delivering a crisper yet softer bass as opposed to a punchy crackle which you'll find on other handsets, trebles are fair and i've heard much louder but in terms of actual clarity it's right up there with the best, mid levels are decent too, so if you want a treble sounding phone then this isn't for you, but for everything else and for the whole package this is where it's at.
I'm referring to the sound that the phone itself delivers, if you were to couple this with a decent set of headphones (i got a pair of solo beats for free with my phone from carphone warehouse, i think they've sold out now) the sound is phenomenal, for picking up and playing a song it is second to none, not the galaxy s4 nor any of the other top of the range handsets can compare to it, the reason for this is because HTC has obviously done it's homework for the audio part of the system and used it as a major selling point.
I'm by no means a music enthusiast but i love them and several of my friends who are music enthusiasts (some producers and DJ's) have said that the sound is superb, obviously not as good as a studio but lets not forget that this is a phone that we're talking about here and for what it is it won't be beaten.

dladz said:
AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser
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Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
dladz said:
Bass is stronger
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That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?

Timmyfoxeh said:
Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?
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Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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dladz said:
Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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None of these replies have answered my question about it though. so let me rephase:
I've seen several reviews claim that this phone use 2 different profiles for Beats audio;
1. The ON profile which activates the "enhancement"
2. The OFF profile which, rather than just deactivating beats audio, will reduce the sound quality below that of what the DAC is capable of.
Now may I have any comments relevant to this question (rather than just saying the sound quality of this phone is good or bad).
Also, not all stores here allow you to try out the phones like so unfortunately.
EDIT: Thanks to the LinusTechTips forum I found this video which pretty much explains what I've been saying: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdbn_pmxFic

Timmyfoxeh said:
Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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I think it's much clearer, and s bit louder. But clearer. I used to have an HTC sensation, where in the middle of your video or music you had a toggle to turn off Beats. And trust me, there is a difference. I even record university lectures on it, and beats tunes out the background noise and boosts that of the speaker. It does wonders . But you can always get the phone and turn off Beats and download an equalizer from the pay store.
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We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones. The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
3. Turning off beats does not seem to activate an "intentionally low quality profile." That wouldn't make any sense, it's just a tweaked equalizer...
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Xerro-Five said:
We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones (you mention in passing a pair of sens). The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
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Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.

Timmyfoxeh said:
Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.
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Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Xerro-Five said:
Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.

Timmyfoxeh said:
Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.
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Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Sorry meant galaxy nexus

The Sp Audio Loadness

Hello Guys
I want to get the SP , but I heard from some reviews that it have a very low audio volume when using headphones , is that true? and if it is true how low is it, I'm taking the subway everyday to work and I'm afraid that I won't hear my music , I don't care about the loudspeakers I'm setting my phones to vibration anyway. thanks

Its loud on headset but a noun for the ear.
Maybe the end of the test jis helpful.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sp-review-924p7.php
But u can change
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2370047

joke19 said:
Its loud on headset but a noun for the ear.
Maybe the end of the test jis helpful.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_sp-review-924p7.php
But u can change
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2370047
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yes I saw the gsmarena test but it says on the description the sound when pluging a headphone is pretty low

hmmm , I guess I'll look for something else , too lame that sony is one of the leading companies in Audio products but they can't make a phone with proper audio quality .
I like the sp so much it looks good perform good but something little as sound volume can mess it up.

No complaints here. I use headphones while running and I use etymotics while on the motorcycle (in a helmet). I'm no audiophile and it sounds just great to me. Clean and crisp.

cyapalmpos said:
No complaints here. I use headphones while running and I use etymotics while on the motorcycle (in a helmet). I'm no audiophile and it sounds just great to me. Clean and crisp.
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Thanks for replying , but what do u think about the loudness , is it enough or its low?

The standard headset that comes with the SP just sucks, plug in your average headphones and there is nothing to complain about..

Thanks a lot guys

the sound is awesome, like others have said the standard earphones suck terribly. i use my sp with a surround system in my room and it sounds just as good as my mac or iPod which have magnificent audio. the built in speaker is LOUD much louder than an iPhone or s4 and theres minimal distortion at max volume