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Hi Guys.
Some time ago I did a ROM upgrade using one of the ROMS from this site. But for the life of me can't remember who's it was. I'm afraid I'm just not in the same league as you guys on this site who seem to be absolute wizards.
On boot up I am running vs 2.26. I do recall it was one of the first versions that looked like Mobile 6.
Anyway, the ROM has been absolutely fantastic with never a hiccup and has made my phone perfect for me such that I wouldn't consider changing it.
I just have one small problem that I am sure is just a simple registry fix away.
Since upgrading I no longer have the screenlock function available to me and as a result I keep dialling people by mistake.
I have checked the Wiki before posting this to see if anyone else had the problem but can't find anything.
Can anyone please advise me of a fix.
Thanks a stack guys. You all provide an awesome service
Ive been a loving owner of a Tilt for quite a few months now, and have modded, changed, and added to it as much as i can. Recently ive been having a few troubles with the phone keeping a connection, so i figured i would backup things, and do a hard reset to get back to square one.
But i started looking and saw sakajati's new Hyperdragon ROM, and am now seriously tempted to flash this rom instead of just sticking with the WM 6.1 stock AT&T rom i have now. So far ive got everything i apparently need downloaded, and have read and re read the directions, faqs, and every guide on doing it to death.
My problem is i can't see to go through with the first step, i am just so worried about breaking my phone. I don't have the money to get a new one, and this one wasn't exactly cheap since i bought it out of contract. Am i just being overly paranoid?
Well, Its been said that its hard to brick your phone, but if you arent too confident you should have a techy friend handle it for you
Flashing in itself is pretty simple and easy to figure out from the wikis. Just be sure to follow all of the directions to the T. Also, to change roms, you have to use Jump-SPL to flash the Hard-SPL. Once thats on your phone it will be nearly impossible to "Brick"
haha i am the techie of all my friends. I know about using jump-spl to put on a hard-spl. Ive already got the jump-spl program on my phone, i keep getting nervous when i go to run it.
Guess i just wanted someone else to slap me in the face more or less and tell me its ok to do, even with all ive already read.
Well, i took the plunge. Already got HardSPL v3.56 on my phone, and am already more then half way through flashing the new rom. Im still rather nervous, but all is going well so far, so my hopes are high. i really can't wait to see my phone with this new rom, even if i gotta go through and get all the at&t connection settings done. Thankfully theres cabs for that
Thanks for the fast reply by the way
Well it went well I am so far fairly happy with the new rom. Only problem im having now is for some reason my phone wont get a data connection going. I have tried using the rr att settings cab, using the connection wizard, entering in the settings myself, everything i can think of. I hope that doesn't kill this rom for me.
make sure proxy is disabled
That did partially work Thanks for the advice though. Ive now moved on to try another rom. Now that i know how to do it its gettings addictive to try more of em. Onto duttys right now Already tried the new offical AT&T rom and Garmins. Hoping to find that perfect one i like the most
Way its going though i might be cooking my own since i can't find one just perfect for me.
would you mind to upload the att settings .cab mine are messed up and there site to send it is under going maintenance
DO IT! it was nervewracking at first for me (i voided my warrranty with all this good stuff just 2 hours after i got the phone xD)
i cant even tell you how many different roms i have flashed, only problems i have ever had were because of the radio, i can see the paranoia but just do it, and if you mess anything up you can always revert to the stock rom, which you can find on xda somewhere
the way i look at it is the tilt is a little old now, i got mine last december, so if i break it ill get another phone, which i am already saving up for now anyways
First of all Hello everyone, I'm Luke and I'm pretty new to the windows mobile scene.
I've wanted a windows mobile phone for a few years now however price tags were not so appealing to me, but now I've purchased my first windows phone and it should be arriving tomorrow or within the next few days. It also seems that I've bought one at a good time as I'm happy to see a lot of development going on for 6.1/6.5 which is awesome - I like playing around with gadgets more than actually using them.
But here is the catch, whilst I've posted this in the HTC TD2 section here, the phone I've bought isn't actually a TD2. At least not an official one. It's one of the Chinese models found on eBay. I don't want a moral debate going on here - it was a bargain and it's my first step into using a Windows phone which I'm looking forward to for a decent price. It looks like a TD2 and the seller has claimed it is 'OEM Produce' however I don't believe him really.
What I wanted to ask was how will I go about flashing, updating, installing ROM's and the such on this phone? Will it be more than enough to follow instructions for a standard TD2? I hope someone here who understands hardware device and such will be able to clear that up for me.
The phone is using the same processor as the original TD2, and has the same resolution etc. Not sure if it has the same amount of ROM/RAM however it's being shipped with WM 6.1 so it has enough I presume. Are there any other hardware differences that will effect the ROM's I can use? Can I even use the same ROM's you guys are using? I don't care about the lower quality camera and less important things like that.
Thanks for any advice (sorry it was a bit long winded)
Please scroll down to see my most recent post! Thanks!
Thats is a very tricky question you are asking here.
First of all, nothing is certain or guaranteed of what you might receive there. After all, the product you receive will be a counterfeit phone, a fake trying to mock a real TD2. And as with any fake products you get the same quality issues. How do you know for sure that it has the same processor?? Just because they write it there? The same can apply to the RAM, ROM, Display etc.! It is in my opinion HIGHLY unlikely that the phone you will receive, will have anything in common (technology-wise) with the real TD2. The TD2 combines a lot of recent technology like that hd screen, cam and ram. What you will find underneath of yours might be a mash-up of older HTC phones like the Diamond or even older..who knows!? You can continue this uncertainty with the Windows that phone is running...it will be some homecooked release that is made to work with the components the phone features. As they will be different to TD2 as we have clarified earlier, the ROMs available here will most certainly not work ideally with yours....and i would be highly surprised to see a forum that will be dedicated to a fake TD2 lolz. Anyways, I think you get my point...I dont really see why you would ship yourself a chinese mock-up to start with a Windows Mobile phone...I dont, really. There are so many nice cheap hq HTC phones out there that still support 6.5 to-date. I have been using a HTC Excalibur (S620/621/Dash) for like 4 years and kept buying the same phone since then because i LOVE it. The quality is superb and it runs Windows Mobile 6.5 like a charm. You can pickup a brandnew unlocked one for $100 at the bay. Just a week ago i decided to upgrade and bought a new TD2...not here yet but same as you i am very excited Im sorry that i drifted off into a moral debate by the way
If you really want to embark on trying to update your phone you will have to analyze the rom closely to see what phone's ROM it is actually running. This will help you to find the according forum in here.
Good luck
I concur with vivid22, The internals of your phone will certainly be different to those of the original HTC build and as such you may have many unforseen troubles if you do flash the rom.
But if you decide to proceed with a rom flash i would be very interested to hear of your results.
You may also be interested in using some benchmark software and comparing how your phone performs compared to ours, maybe you can discover if the CPU is indeed the correct performance. Its all quite interesting.
Oh and welcome to the forums
Thanks for your responses guys! Very informative.
While I'm not going to respond to the most obvious statements like it being a counterfeit and it sucking etc in much detail because of course you are right! but I knew this when I bought it. The price is the real difference here and I don't mind if I can't flash it but I too am interested if it will actually work .
I'm still waiting for the phone to arrive and yes you both are right it has a very high chance that it is using different internals and I expect this, however the seller seems to state its using very similar hardware.
I will be more than happy to mess around with it, I guess I will dump the ROM first if I can then try installing some 6.5 etc - no problem trying I guess. I must say I've seen some clones from merimobiles.com (or something) with TouchFlo and I think even WinMo 6.5 but then again obtaining those ROM's will be a quest in itself. Not sure if mine is being shipped with TouchFlo, it has it in the screen shots on the listening but that really counts for nothing .
I have seen a few threads on these devices and their flash capability but not any with any definitive results so hopefully I can get the ball rolling. When I actually receive my product I will be able to tell if it is actually using the same processor, etc.
I believe you will find that Hard SPL will not flash to unlock your device.
Many here have tried with the same knock-offs.
Unlock in which way do you mean?
Network unlock? (assuming not)
Maybe worth noting: The guy who is selling these flashes the phone with the version of WinMo (language-wise) that the buyer asks for before shipping out. Meaning they can be flashed, however with what ROM's and what method I've no idea. Might ask him?
Ok if I'm going to poke around this I have two questions to ask that will help me determine things about the phone:
(They may seem very dumb but I just need to clarify)
1. Is there a way to find out the Hard SPL version without installing a new one? Like the current one it has.
2. Is it possible to get into the Bootloader no matter what Hard SPL version you have?
Lukeff7 said:
Unlock in which way do you mean?
Network unlock? (assuming not)
Maybe worth noting: The guy who is selling these flashes the phone with the version of WinMo (language-wise) that the buyer asks for before shipping out. Meaning they can be flashed, however with what ROM's and what method I've no idea. Might ask him?
Ok if I'm going to poke around this I have two questions to ask that will help me determine things about the phone:
(They may seem very dumb but I just need to clarify)
1. Is there a way to find out the Hard SPL version without installing a new one? Like the current one it has.
2. Is it possible to get into the Bootloader no matter what Hard SPL version you have?
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No, SPL unlocks the OS, not the SIM.
Bootloader mode is how you determine your current SPL.
Okay. So I should be able to (hopefully) get into bootloader and find the SPL it currently has.
Well I guess thats it until I actually recieve the phone, cheers guys I'll post how I get on for the people who are interested.
It will be very interesting to hear about it. hope you get what you ordered?
God luck
Well, I'm back, for anyone who is interested!
Phone finally came, snow over here in the UK slowed it down haha!
So, the phone is very good for what I paid, and very nice.
I'd like to go about flashing it though, as it's currently running 6.1 with SPB Mobile Shell. SPB is very nice, but I really like the look of Touch Flo.
Now while cosmetically the phone looks pretty close to the TD2, it has a few things like no front camera (don't really care) and the zoom bar also seems to do absolutely nothing. The phone runs as smooth as it should. It has no g-sensor as far as I can tell, shame but doesn't really matter.
All of this sounds like it has no chance, I think it even has less RAM than it was meant to but I'm not sure... But here is why I am still curious about trying:
Windows Mobile is reporting that it is using the 528Mhz MSM7200A processor.
That is what I believe the real TD2 uses, correct me if I am wrong.
If this means it is using the same chipset or what-have you as the TD2, I don't know. This is why I need help.
Really, what I am asking, is what kind of things can I look at in the phone to tell what I could possibly flash it with?
Do you think the HardSPL utility you all use will work with it? Is there even any way to tell, or should I just try anyway? And could that break the phone beyond repair? Is there a way to find out the real specs of this phone, because it may have been modified so that it read that processor name?
What do you guys think. I'm willing to try all sorts, I just don't want to brick it with no way of getting it back that's why I am just asking for opinions before I do it anyway.
Thanks
You will brick your phone for sure if you try a rom for Diamond2, search this forum for chinese ROM (I saw it somewhere on another thread in Topaz section), but watch out that you will have a clean windows without customizations includind TF3D.
Hello folks, I know ill have no problems flashing the phone to a new rom (not worried about bricking it) but one thing after searching these forums I havnt found is how hard is it to go back to stock if you dont like said rom
I dont even know why I am flashing it, my phone works great, seems snappy enough but im one of those types of people that just has to toy with things.
So id just like some information for you guys first what i asked above but also why do you use custom roms does the phone work better, all I read about is apps not working? is there an added benefit to flashing?
Most important to me though is how hard and the steps to revert back to stock
Thanks alot
sprockets2000 said:
Hello folks, I know ill have no problems flashing the phone to a new rom (not worried about bricking it) but one thing after searching these forums I havnt found is how hard is it to go back to stock if you dont like said rom
I dont even know why I am flashing it, my phone works great, seems snappy enough but im one of those types of people that just has to toy with things.
So id just like some information for you guys first what i asked above but also why do you use custom roms does the phone work better, all I read about is apps not working? is there an added benefit to flashing?
Most important to me though is how hard and the steps to revert back to stock
thanks alot
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Well, all you need to do is download the stock RUU which will return your phone to it's original factory settings. There have been a few people who've encountered an error running this utility to retorn to stock but it has been very rare and has only affected a small percentage of the population of hero owners. Worse-case scenario, you can try and get a warranty replacement or use your TEP plan if you are enrolled in it.
I find I enjoy the phone more with a custom rom for several reasons. It feels more responsive and usable, also I am a true gadget-head and tweaking customizing and playing around with my phone is just in my nature. Android as a platform is well suited to this kind of mentality and is even encouraged.
Of course there is also the current situation we are in that we are able to run a newer version of android than what is available from the manufacturer at this time.
Then you can get into custom themes etc etc.
I had my TILT 2 for almost a year now. I don't know what to get. I am kind of scared which ROM to install. I read the forums but most of them are too in depth and complicated..a noob like wouldn't understand anything. My phone lags and freezes a lot. Can ROM solve this issue? If so what should I get? I am getting bored and annoyed with my phone please help. I know I am gonna get a lot of comment like "read the forums or something" I've been reading them and they don't really give the info I need.
I appreciate any suggestions and advices.
Thank You
JRM.joaquin said:
I had my TILT 2 for almost a year now. I don't know what to get. I am kind of scared which ROM to install. I read the forums but most of them are too in depth and complicated..a noob like wouldn't understand anything. My phone lags and freezes a lot. Can ROM solve this issue? If so what should I get? I am getting bored and annoyed with my phone please help. I know I am gonna get a lot of comment like "read the forums or something" I've been reading them and they don't really give the info I need.
I appreciate any suggestions and advices.
Thank You
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The stock ROMs are generally pretty bloated and prone to freezing. I would recommend that you read the Hard SPL thread, then go ahead and flash the Hard SPL. This will enable to you flash any ROM you like.
Once you have done that first step, just choose a ROM (look over the various choices in this section). You can always flash a different choice later.
WARNING: Make sure your phone is GSM before flashing a ROM from this forum!
^^^^ what he said
You've got nothing to lose and everything to gain by flashing a custom ROM - you can always try another one or go back to stock if you don't like it. Just make sure you back up any data that you want to restore (e.g. contacts, messages etc) before you flash.
All the info you need are in the stickies - e.g. the HardSPL thread for flashing HardSPL, and the "Flashing your First GSM Rhodium ROM" thread.
If you're not sure which ROM to pick, you could always just pick one of the most popular ones to start with, based on the assumption there must be a fairly good reason for those to be the more popular ones.
what I did
Hey
I am about to flash my phone too. I also have it for more then a year ( since last September ) and i did a bit of research just for piece of mind
The most important step is Hard SPL this is so if something goes horribly wrong u can still re-flash it to try and repair the damage ( someone confirm this: there no hardware damage done when u flash , its all just software), besides its also needed in order to flash custom roms aka cooked roms.
For what custom rom to get I did the folowing: sorted the threads based on stats ( posts / views ) and looked at the most popular ones and something struck: Energy rom by NRGZ28 is BY FAR the most popular one, so it must be good for a 1st try then some new unknown cooked rom
Also if you would like to get more info I found this youtube video ( 20 mins / 2 parts ) very informative:
Since I'm new and can't post links search for " Real Time ROM Flashing " and u will find it.
Goliath.ro said:
Hey
The most important step is Hard SPL this is so if something goes horribly wrong u can still re-flash it to try and repair the damage ( someone confirm this: there no hardware damage done when u flash , its all just software), besides its also needed in order to flash custom roms aka cooked roms.
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HardSPL removes the SPL lock which normally only allows flashing of ROMs officially released by your carrier. Without it, you won't be flashing anything, except official ROM updates from your carrier. Yes, HardSPL allows you to run Task29, which formats/wipes the memory. And in some cases this can help you recover from a bad flash. Sometimes flashing back to the stock ROM can help you recover as well.
Goliath.ro said:
Hey
IFor what custom rom to get I did the folowing: sorted the threads based on stats ( posts / views ) and looked at the most popular ones and something struck: Energy rom by NRGZ28 is BY FAR the most popular one, so it must be good for a 1st try then some new unknown cooked rom
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Energy ROM is what I use, and I love it. Its a good tradoff of speed/stability and looks/features. But some feel its not the fastest or most "lightweight" ROM out there. If you want that, some people have recommend Jackos or Valkyrie. Also, lots of people like Deep Shining.
There really is no "best" ROM. It depends on whether you prefer eye candy or speed (or somewhere in the middle), what kind of apps you like to have cooked in, etc.
But I agree to the previous advice given to the OP. Flashing a custom ROM will fix many, many things over the stock ROM. Your phone will be faster, more stable, and have more functionality and features. Figuring out how to flash a custom ROM can be a little intimidating at first. But once you've learned how to do it, its really a snap. And then you will wonder why you ever waited so long to do it! Just make sure you read all the "stickied" guides, read as much as you can about the ROM you are flashing, and follow the instructions carefully.
JRM.joaquin said:
I had my TILT 2 for almost a year now. I don't know what to get. I am kind of scared which ROM to install. I read the forums but most of them are too in depth and complicated..a noob like wouldn't understand anything. My phone lags and freezes a lot. Can ROM solve this issue? If so what should I get? I am getting bored and annoyed with my phone please help. I know I am gonna get a lot of comment like "read the forums or something" I've been reading them and they don't really give the info I need.
I appreciate any suggestions and advices.
Thank You
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I recommend Jackos S2 Rom. It is by far the fastest rom i've tried. When you first flash it, it looks very close to a stock rom and it works great just like that and if you want to, you can modify it to your liking. If you want to take a look, you can find the thread here--->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632617. If you want to see what it looks like modified, take a look at my profile pic. Jackos rom has been what i've used for the last few months. Like everyone else before me said, do the HSPL before anything.
Thanks everyone. Really really appreciate all the comments. You guys definitely gave me enough ideas and confidence to flash my phone. I can't wait XD
JRM.joaquin said:
Thanks everyone. Really really appreciate all the comments. You guys definitely gave me enough ideas and confidence to flash my phone. I can't wait XD
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You can also read ROM reviews on The Wingster. But there's no best ROM as everyone said. Find something that fits what you need....
If you want SPEED: Choose a Sense 2.1 ROM or even a ROM without Sense (a.k.a. Titanium)
If you want FEATURES: Choose a Sense 2.5 ROM, with CookieHomeTab or another similar enhancement. They will be slower overall, but they have some neat extra features.
Go with Windows Mobile 6.5.5 unless you really like the Windows Mobile 6.5 design.
Then test out a few ROM's and see what works for you.
If you need any help, in addition to the forums, you can use the Support link on The Wingster and I can help you out. But if you read all of the instructions, everything should work well!
I did my little research and I believe it's a GSM. My phone is TILT 2..is that right?
JRM.joaquin said:
I did my little research and I believe it's a GSM. My phone is TILT 2..is that right?
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If you bought your phone from AT&T, then YES it is a Tilt 2, which is GSM.
Your phone is always GSM except if you bought it from Verizon, Sprint, or Telus. Every other provider (T-Mobile, AT&T, and worldwide ones) is GSM!
So if yours is GSM, pick any ROM from the forums here.
Check under the battery if it takes a SIM card its gsm..
jcxtreme30 said:
Check under the battery if it takes a SIM card its gsm..
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Umm, no, that's wrong, sorry. CDMA phones still have a SIM card slot.
steviewevie said:
Umm, no, that's wrong, sorry. CDMA phones still have a SIM card slot.
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Only CDMA Worldphones do have a sim slot.
Sorry guys, but I´m a little bit noobish about that. How can I get if I am "GSM" or "CDMA" with Touch Pro 2 for sure ? I still don´t get the signs of recognizing....
I saw some thread about it, but still do not understand the problem of this separation.
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Only CDMA Worldphones do have a sim slot.
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Yeah but this is the Rhodium forum, and were're talking about Rhodiums. So my answer was about CDMA Rhodiums (which are Worldphones).
Unilqadium said:
Sorry guys, but I´m a little bit noobish about that. How can I get if I am "GSM" or "CDMA" with Touch Pro 2 for sure ? I still don´t get the signs of recognizing....
I saw some thread about it, but still do not understand the problem of this separation.
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Take the back off your phone, remove the battery, and look for some lettering under there. It should say "RHODxxx", where the "xxx" are three digits.
RHOD100, RHOD200, RHOD300 (and variants) are GSM. RHOD400 and RHOD500 are CDMA.
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Umm, no, that's wrong, sorry. CDMA phones still have a SIM card slot.
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Yea only a dual band phone would still have a slot if it has gsm slot its gsm or dual band point blank... Know what your talking about before you speak..
can a world phone use these roms?
i just got my touch pro 2 off ebay for $200, new in box, which is a pretty good deal. Anyway I want 2 flash one of these roms. The phone's original company is Telus. This phone's marked RH0D500, it's got a GSM slot but is listed as CDMA... (I'm on at&t) From what I read it seems that this has to be treated as a CDMA phone? r there any cdma roms that will still allow me to get corporate emails and use all the good functions of this phone? Oh if anyone's interested the guy i got it from on ebay has like 5 more, but if they're only going to work with CDMA roms then people should probably not buy them for that reason...
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i just got my touch pro 2 off ebay for $200, new in box, which is a pretty good deal. Anyway I want 2 flash one of these roms. The phone's original company is Telus. This phone's marked RH0D00, it's got a GSM slot but is listed as CDMA... (I'm on at&t) From what I read it seems that this has to be treated as a CDMA phone? r there any cdma roms that will still allow me to get corporate emails and use all the good functions of this phone? Oh if anyone's interested the guy i got it from on ebay has like 5 more, but if they're only going to work with CDMA roms then people should probably not buy them for that reason...
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As far as I am aware "RHOD00" is not a valid marking. Is that a typo? Or maybe you should look again. It should be RHOD100, RHOD200, RHOD300, RHOD400, RHOD500, and there may be some variants, like RHOD210. But there should be 3 digits after "RHOD" under the battery. Looking around the net, the Telus version should be RHOD500.
All the "CDMA" variants of the Touch Pro 2 actually also have a GSM radio as well (and therefore a SIM slot) since they are intended for "World" use (international travel). This is because CDMA alone is nearly useless for foreign travel, since most countries outside of North America use GSM. So the presence of a SIM slot will not tell you whether its GSM or CDMA.
For the purposes of these forums, the versions of the TP2 that are CDMA/GSM are considered "CDMA" and can only flash the CDMA ROMs. Phones that are solely GSM radio should only be flashed with GSM ROMs. Flashing a GSM ROM to a CDMA/GSM Rhodium will render it inoperative.
The Telus version of the TP2 looks to have the correct GSM bands (850 and 1900 MHz) to work on ATT. But the phone will need to be SIM unlocked, if it isn't already. If you Google around, you will find some posts on the net (and probably on here too), where people have gotten the CDMA/GSM versions to work on AT&T and T-Mobile, so it should work (if SIM unlocked). But it appears you will only have EDGE data speed, not 3G, since the HSDPA/UMTS radios seem to be missing from the Telus version, based on looking at the phone's specs.
You would have been better off buying the ATT version of the phone, the Tilt2. Its the only version that has the necessary hardware to get 3G data speeds on the ATT network. And you should completely understand all the specs before you buy any phone that isn't from your carrier.