Hi,
I have really googled this but cant really figure it out.
I have been through several excellent custom roms. Good work to you all !
.. but very often they crash hang etc. Sometimes during the day. Often when I charge the phone at night etc.
Is it correct that it is very important to first flash the latest stock rom before you flash the custom rom !?!?
I believed that flashing the custom rom image would replace all prior rom data?
Please help me out !
If I do it is just to flash stock rom with Hard SPL and then hardreset and another custom rom? I read something about someone bricking the phone.
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Lombiz said:
Hi,
I have really googled this but cant really figure it out.
I have been through several excellent custom roms. Good work to you all !
.. but very often they crash hang etc. Sometimes during the day. Often when I charge the phone at night etc.
Is it correct that it is very important to first flash the latest stock rom before you flash the custom rom !?!?
I believed that flashing the custom rom image would replace all prior rom data?
Please help me out !
If I do it is just to flash stock rom with Hard SPL and then hardreset and another custom rom? I read something about someone bricking the phone.
/P
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hi
crashes might happen, right
sometimes it could be the rom, or an app, or rhe sd card, or radio+ril combo,...
its not always easy to trace and single out
some reported that -although indeed everything of the previous rom should be removed during flash- they still fared better when flashing stock before custom
I must say I never did and fortunately also didnt have hlaf of the problems reported by other users
so: find out for yourself, as it cannot be generalised
cheers
Two phones. result very different !
Thanks !
What I really find strange though.
My friend and I have the same X1. Released at about the same time etc.
So hardware should differ mouch.
The rom is flashed so any difference in updates shouldnt matter too much.
After flashing my phone works great and his barely starts.
/peter
from my experience there is a difference
flashing a custom rom only replaces the previous rom
but flashing the latest custom rom replaces (rom+radio+ and 2 other things that i cant remember)
u wont get a problem free mobile after flashing the stock rom
but i'm sure that it decreases them to a very noticeable degree
less freezes better performance etc...
in my opinion: u won't loose anything from doing it, but it might help
so y not to try, it worth the shot
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Just a couple of quick questions, have searched but couldn't find an answer.
Firstly, have been having a few problems with a lot of the custom ROMs I've been using recently, they usually work well for a while, then start going wrong. I've heard you're meant to flash a stock ROM in between each custom one, was wondering if that's true, as I've never seen it written anywhere. I flash using USPL if it matters. Currently using Dutty's Leo R5, which has also just started going wrong for me.
Also out of interest, how would I go about flashing a stock ROM? Same process as normal? And where would I be able to get the latest one from?
Cheers for any help.
Tyrrell9 said:
Just a couple of quick questions, have searched but couldn't find an answer.
Firstly, have been having a few problems with a lot of the custom ROMs I've been using recently, they usually work well for a while, then start going wrong. I've heard you're meant to flash a stock ROM in between each custom one, was wondering if that's true, as I've never seen it written anywhere. I flash using USPL if it matters. Currently using Dutty's Leo R5, which has also just started going wrong for me.
Also out of interest, how would I go about flashing a stock ROM? Same process as normal? And where would I be able to get the latest one from?
Cheers for any help.
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I've never once flashed back to a stock rom in-between custom roms (and I've tried a few) .
But I have also heard that it works for some people having issues with flashing. If you are using uspl, then your stock spl is still intact and you should just be able to flash back to a stock rom (AFAIK in any case - sorry you can see I use hspl)
You can find many of the shipped roms (stock) here
Depending on the rom you choose and your current spl you may get the blue/green screen after the flash, but that would only be due to a rom/spl mismatch.
Thanks for the help, gonna flash a stable ROM for the next few days I think. Just one other thing I've been thinking of, I've got SPL 1.54 showing up in bootloader mode. You know if that's still the one you're supposed to use? Not sure if it should be 1.56?
Tyrrell9 said:
Thanks for the help, gonna flash a stable ROM for the next few days I think. Just one other thing I've been thinking of, I've got SPL 1.54 showing up in bootloader mode. You know if that's still the one you're supposed to use? Not sure if it should be 1.56?
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Is it still 1.54.0000? This is actually an updated stock spl which you loaded when using uspl, so you should be able to just flash one of the later version stock roms. There is no need to downgrade your spl to your original (unless of course you need to return your phone for service)
1.56 is only as a result of using hspl and AFAIK there is no stock 1.56 version.
ClydeB1 said:
Is it still 1.54.0000? This is actually an updated stock spl which you loaded when using uspl, so you should be able to just flash one of the later version stock roms. There is no need to downgrade your spl to your original (unless of course you need to return your phone for service)
1.56 is only as a result of using hspl and AFAIK there is no stock 1.56 version.
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Ah that's alright then, yeah it is still 1.54.0000. I'd just seen something about SPL 1.56 mentioned, so I wondered if there was a newer version of that stock spl. I'll find another ROM to flash for now, seems like I've been doing everything right. Thanks again for your help.
Tyrrell9 said:
Just a couple of quick questions, have searched but couldn't find an answer.
Firstly, have been having a few problems with a lot of the custom ROMs I've been using recently, they usually work well for a while, then start going wrong. I've heard you're meant to flash a stock ROM in between each custom one, was wondering if that's true, as I've never seen it written anywhere. I flash using USPL if it matters. Currently using Dutty's Leo R5, which has also just started going wrong for me.
Also out of interest, how would I go about flashing a stock ROM? Same process as normal? And where would I be able to get the latest one from?
Cheers for any help.
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Flashing back to stock ROM worked for me, my spl has bee upgraded since i started flashing (first one was Dutty 3.9XT). This solved many of my problems encountered flashing the latest Win 6.5 + Manila 2.5 ROMS.
Tyrrell9 said:
Ah that's alright then, yeah it is still 1.54.0000. I'd just seen something about SPL 1.56 mentioned, so I wondered if there was a newer version of that stock spl. I'll find another ROM to flash for now, seems like I've been doing everything right. Thanks again for your help.
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My pleasure - hope you come right.
jigners said:
Flashing back to stock ROM worked for me, my spl has bee upgraded since i started flashing (first one was Dutty 3.9XT). This solved many of my problems encountered flashing the latest Win 6.5 + Manila 2.5 ROMS.
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What stock ROM have you been using? I've only been having problems with 6.5 roms, 3.9xt was the only one I've used so far that's worked flawlessly.
Hallos Tyrrell9,
they usually work well for a while, then start going wrong.
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Fortunatly we are dealing with a form of Windows and as in any windows there is not so much difference. This means that it is silly to think that the same windows OS u installed is running as well or the same as to when u first installed it. We have to MAINTAIN it....
Think of ur phone rom as if it were a windows version on a regular PC. What happens after a few weeks is that it gets cluttered with unnused registry keys (even from installing and uninstalling apps), cache files, temp files and all other junk that gets installed by default. This means that u as a user have to clean it once in a while to get get rid of all this stuff that is going to make ur windows and thus ur phone slow after a while. Fortunatly there is help for us to do so. I use Pocket Mechanic and SKTools for this reason. Another thing is that u can look at the windows startup folder to see what is started. The less it is starting the faster and snappier ur phone will be..
I think it is also silly to think that u have to reflash a new rom every other day. I only flash a new rom if i see some major upgrades in the new one.
I hope this helps some...
Greetz
Caved
caved said:
Hallos Tyrrell9,
Fortunatly we are dealing with a form of Windows and as in any windows there is not so much difference. This means that it is silly to think that the same windows OS u installed is running as well or the same as to when u first installed it. We have to MAINTAIN it....
Think of ur phone rom as if it were a windows version on a regular PC. What happens after a few weeks is that it gets cluttered with unnused registry keys (even from installing and uninstalling apps), cache files, temp files and all other junk that gets installed by default. This means that u as a user have to clean it once in a while to get get rid of all this stuff that is going to make ur windows and thus ur phone slow after a while. Fortunatly there is help for us to do so. I use Pocket Mechanic and SKTools for this reason. Another thing is that u can look at the windows startup folder to see what is started. The less it is starting the faster and snappier ur phone will be..
I think it is also silly to think that u have to reflash a new rom every other day. I only flash a new rom if i see some major upgrades in the new one.
I hope this helps some...
Greetz
Caved
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All true, but some of us have this strange addiction that needs to be satisfied regularly....
Undoubtedly and Unashamedly a member of Flashaholics United
Hallos ClydeB1,
If u enjoy flashing 4 roms a day to see if one or other rom will run better go right ahead, that seem to be a hobby in itself for some people. If thats is doing any good to you or ur HD ? Doubtfull but who am i to judge...
I just said that things don't have to go bad after a period of time becouse it doesn't have to be that way, u are the boss and not ur windows OS.
Greetz
Caved
After flashing my HD to Mikenificent 6.0 my phone locks up spontaneously pretty often.
It occusers mostly after an install or sometimes after a sync (I use MissingSync). Other than that I don't see reasons/similarities.
Why does this happen? And can it be solved.
I'm pretty annoyed by the fact that I have to install and configure everything over and over again.
What I did do:
-reflash Mikenificent 6.0 two other times (using SD card as I always do)
Is there a general solution/cause?
Thx in advance!
A solution that seems to work although it is a bit of a PITA, is to flash back to stock rom and then flash to the cooked rom again. This tends to resolve these "strange" issues.
Arie83 said:
After flashing my HD to Mikenificent 6.0 my phone locks up spontaneously pretty often.
It occusers mostly after an install or sometimes after a sync (I use MissingSync). Other than that I don't see reasons/similarities.
Why does this happen? And can it be solved.
I'm pretty annoyed by the fact that I have to install and configure everything over and over again.
What I did do:
-reflash Mikenificent 6.0 two other times (using SD card as I always do)
Is there a general solution/cause?
Thx in advance!
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try flashing stock rom, then flash another rom (i mean not just mikenificent)
Thanks for your answers...
I'm trying to reflash with a stock ROM now...
After the change to stockrom everything is back to normal
I'll keep you posted what happens after the reflash with a cooked ROM
Problem solved!
Reflashing with stock rom indeed did the trick. Mikenificent 6.0 works flawless now...
thx!
Great news. I'm sure that is a relief to you. Glad to hear the stock rom reflash worked and thanks for the update
I had posted a similar thread earlier, but it had a different reason and a different solution, yea, KL7 was the solution..but its been a week since I upgraded and now unfortunately my note is becoming slower!!!
what could be the reason. Im on stock kl7 meant for DBT. i had s2 earlier (nw its with my wife) and i really miss the superspeed s2. i have a iphone 4 with me (secondary phone) and now due to timesaving efforts im using more of iphone 4 eventhough i hate the small size. (pls dont call me a iphone fan!!!). i need note's display and size and s2's speed!!
any latest stock rom's??? (non wipe versions???)
khan.dharvesh said:
I had posted a similar thread earlier, but it had a different reason and a different solution, yea, KL7 was the solution..but its been a week since I upgraded and now unfortunately my note is becoming slower!!!
what could be the reason. Im on stock kl7 meant for DBT. i had s2 earlier (nw its with my wife) and i really miss the superspeed s2. i have a iphone 4 with me (secondary phone) and now due to timesaving efforts im using more of iphone 4 eventhough i hate the small size. (pls dont call me a iphone fan!!!). i need note's display and size and s2's speed!!
any latest stock rom's??? (non wipe versions???)
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Why don't you use Custom ROM??
ranjan.alva said:
Why don't you use Custom ROM??
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ive never used custom rom in any of my android devices..ive following 'fears'
1. will it affect any major aspect of the phone (ive seen many threads like battery issues,wifi issues etc etc..)
2.if later i want to update latest firmware via kies, wil that be a problem>?
3.will i wipe out my data/apps etc?
4.which is the best custom rom available?>
khan.dharvesh said:
ive never used custom rom in any of my android devices..ive following 'fears'
1. will it affect any major aspect of the phone (ive seen many threads like battery issues,wifi issues etc etc..)
2.if later i want to update latest firmware via kies, wil that be a problem>?
3.will i wipe out my data/apps etc?
4.which is the best custom rom available?>
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1. Possibly. Possibly not. Depends on the ROM. Usually the ROM developer will provide detailed information about what's working, what's working better, what's working worse, and what's not working at all. It's up to you to find the best overall fit.
2. You'll have to do a CWM backup and flash back to stock in order to use Kies. Then again, that's kind of a moot point if you're using a custom ROM anyway. Usually dev's will bake in the latest/best working firmware into their ROM's anyway, so Kies really isn't that big of an issue. I've personally never had a need for Kies; I've always just used Odin. It's way better anyway.
3. Depends on the ROM again. However, coming from stock to a custom ROM, it's highly recommended that A) you do a backup of your stuff and B) you perform a full wipe (keep your backup data in tact obviously).
4. That's up to you really. What may be the best ROM for me might not be well suited for you. Have a look in the dev section and see what's out there!
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
1. Possibly. Possibly not. Depends on the ROM. Usually the ROM developer will provide detailed information about what's working, what's working better, what's working worse, and what's not working at all. It's up to you to find the best overall fit.
2. You'll have to do a CWM backup and flash back to stock in order to use Kies. Then again, that's kind of a moot point if you're using a custom ROM anyway. Usually dev's will bake in the latest/best working firmware into their ROM's anyway, so Kies really isn't that big of an issue. I've personally never had a need for Kies; I've always just used Odin. It's way better anyway.
3. Depends on the ROM again. However, coming from stock to a custom ROM, it's highly recommended that A) you do a backup of your stuff and B) you perform a full wipe (keep your backup data in tact obviously).
4. That's up to you really. What may be the best ROM for me might not be well suited for you. Have a look in the dev section and see what's out there!
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thanks, so custom rom is one solution which i would definitely look into. and it was seriously helpful reply.
khan.dharvesh said:
ive never used custom rom in any of my android devices..ive following 'fears'
1. will it affect any major aspect of the phone (ive seen many threads like battery issues,wifi issues etc etc..)
2.if later i want to update latest firmware via kies, wil that be a problem>?
3.will i wipe out my data/apps etc?
4.which is the best custom rom available?>
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yeah you got some points ter, even me too still in Stock rom coz am waiting for CM9.
am i only one who's having trouble with downloading PhilZ kernel?
i've tried every single links but it seems like all the links are broken.
i really need to get it coz my phone is completely brick at the moment.
the worst problem is that i set the stock rom so many times but it never works.
whenever i install stock room on my phone, it comes totally brick and only custom rom is available to use.
what do you guys think abt this issue?
please leave anything.
Links work.
Maybe you can start with telling what Rom you install and how you do it and what exact error messages you get.
Let's say i got a rom that performs amazingly,super fast tab switch,good at multi tasking,25k in benchmark.
Then I want to try a new rom,so I flash the new rom after cleaning my devide,as i should do.
But I don't like it or whatever and I want to return to the old one. But after I flash the old rom the performance is extremely bad,getting random systemui FC ,reboots,etc.
Why is this happening? Right now I'm running out of roms that I can use on my phone,as I cannot go back to the ones that I really liked. Please help
It also happens when a developer posts a new build of a rom. If i got the previous build installed and i flash the new one,the rom is broken again.
darkkfruit said:
Let's say i got a rom that performs amazingly,super fast tab switch,good at multi tasking,25k in benchmark.
Then I want to try a new rom,so I flash the new rom after cleaning my devide,as i should do.
But I don't like it or whatever and I want to return to the old one. But after I flash the old rom the performance is extremely bad,getting random systemui FC ,reboots,etc.
Why is this happening? Right now I'm running out of roms that I can use on my phone,as I cannot go back to the ones that I really liked. Please help
It also happens when a developer posts a new build of a rom. If i got the previous build installed and i flash the new one,the rom is broken again.
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I use Philz recovery and before flashing a new rom i just simply hit Clean up to install a new rom.
I never faced any of the issue that u mentioned. Try following what i said.
If u are using a lollipop rom then u may face systemui FC ,reboots as there is a bug which is experienced by some users.
I tried every recovery, twrp with full device wipe,cwm with their wipe,and philz with full wipe and the one you mentioned.
The issues happen in every rom,wether it's 3.2,4.4 or 5.x.
darkkfruit said:
I tried every recovery, twrp with full device wipe,cwm with their wipe,and philz with full wipe and the one you mentioned.
The issues happen in every rom,wether it's 3.2,4.4 or 5.x.
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Return to stock by flashing ftf through flashtool and start from beginning.