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Hello fellow Kaiser users,
I don't know if this happened only with me or others have experienced the same.
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
Is there a solution?
It is really bugging me when I'm typing an SMS or typing something down.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Hardware suggestions also I will try on my own risk.
fireblade63 said:
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
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Same problem here, but I started noticing it after 4/5 months of use. Would like to know about a solution also.
I feel your pain, this is what is really killing me because the keyboard is a very big part of the phone, and I've only been using it for 7 months. If i knew it would become this unresponsive i would of got an i phone because this phones on screen keyboard and transcriber is useless.
It happened to me after 7 months. The "c" key on my tilt started to become unresponsive so I called up at&t and had it warranty exchanged for a refurb. This second one was already even worse than the one I'd just sent back, so I had them send out another one. This third one is fine, although the "c" key (again, oddly enough) doesn't click like the others. It's responsive, but feels a little different. I didn't feel like going through the exchange process again, so for now I'm living with it.
My 1 month old refurb tilt doesn't type the keys when I press them sometimes. I should have that fixed. I thought it was a software problem...
My brand new XPS M1530 does the same thing sometimes. I guess I reckoned it was just me not pressing on the keys hard enough or something like that...
So I'm not the only one with the problem...
But no solution?!
Even a hint of what might be causing this would help..
have you guys tried using the disable XT9 cab ?
yes
I think it is H/W cleaning related
How to clean is the deal...
you can find disassembling guides on mikechannon's web. just follow the disassembling instructions and after you remove keyboard, try cleaning it.
Same problem for me.
I'm always very carefull with my device, and don't use the hardware keyboard very often.
Now for some letters I really have to press harder to make them work.
I have my device for only 6 or 7 months.
Have had my Kaiser for 6 months now and the Y and B keys are starting to go out. For the past couple weeks I have been considering sending it in for warranty exchange but I have taken very good care of my Kaiser and worry about what I would get back...
Anyone eager enough tried disasembling and cleaning?
Moreover, did it work?
funny thing here is that I get more unresponsiveness in the right side of the keyboard (enter; L; P; direction keys).
It is a real pain...
Most prolly will do it soon
Will let you all know of the outcome
Same here.
Had mine 8 months, the W key is worst, takes a really heavy press to get it to work, has been like that for about 5 months.
Now the B is also getting bad, so is the S.
If i'm likely to get a refurb back i guess i'll just put up with it until my contract is up.
I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.
Hey man,
since you had quite some ppls share of PPCs;
did you disassemble any of them before?
Do you think it's a good idea to do it myself?
I'm extra careful normally but I'm having doubts
kdskamal said:
I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.
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Similar problems here with my Tilt. FN, CAP/SHIFT, N are all problematic for me.
Has anyone tried a spray liquid electronic "contact cleaner" on a device like this before?
Weird
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?
killerbeans said:
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?
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You are correct sir! Just run "disable xt9" (found plenty of places on the kaiser forum) and your problem should be fixed.
I too have had this problem. I noticed it with the d, r, and space bar keys. Interestingly enough the keys that i press often (Take A for example [I have it mapped to the A button in PocketNesterPlus]) aren't hard to press at all. What I'm trying right now is pressing the problem keys over and over again to see if they "loosen up". Best Case Scenario: It works. Worst Case Scenario: I ruin an expensive piece of equipment.
Update: This might be working. To test which keys were unresponsive i typed abcdefghijklmnop.... without exerting any extra effort. The keys w and r didn't show up so i kept working them. I repeated the test and I got r to work. perhaps i am unknowingly pressing r harder, or perhaps not.
Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
might be "m2d" not compatible ... hair wired ..
I wonder ..whether we can install window CE from pc to h/p through usb link ...
"Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts"
r u using original usb cable ..b'cos now a day I saw many only using normal "small" usb cable head which easily spoil the connector at phone ... too loose for that sharp..
l3urton32 said:
Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
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Go to Start/Settings/System/Clear Storage
and your usb is probably whack
@kaiserII...your usb is whack, haha. that **** made me laugh.
having same exact issue
ya it happened to me sunday night, having exact same problem. keyboard doesnt work, and my front buttons dont work exept for the the center button which ends up opening the start menu (wrong command). Im over my 1 year warrenty and not sure what to do. Had to buy a cheap 40 dollar nokia for the time being, please help if someone can. Oh and I did a hard reset, and it didnt fix anything. Booted android with it and 1 out of 5 times the buttons came back, this is really weird/vexing.
l3urton32 said:
Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
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Exactly the same thing has happened to me!! Coming on randomly, draining the battery really quickly and the same keys doing the same things as yours i.e. nothing or Start menu. The backspace and space don't work on the on-screen keyboard either. Is it the end of the road or has anyone the slightest idea what the hell to do!?!?!?
Same issue but slightly different
2 days ago I started hearing a noise from my phone that was not something I normally hear. After checking my phone I found out it was the voice recorder program opening up on its own. It started repeatedly doing this and recording automatically. I had to hold down the close option (X) and before it would stop. AFter a reset and when the phone wakes up it always does this now. Along with all these whacky problems my hard buttons stopped working. My scroll wheel and D-pad sometimes work and only the up, down, left and right arrows work on the keyboard. Camera button seems to work sometimes also. All others have stopped responding. Except for holding the power key. I just reflashed my phone to latest phoenix ROM and problem is the same. Is this it for the phone or is there a fix.
Anyone??? Please!!
Try this free fix
I had the same problem as the original poster. My fix was to download AE Button Plus trial and use it to reset my keys to their original setting. I did not have to do the keyboard, just the external keys. Now my tilt works like it used to.
This fixed the problem when clear storage and reloading roms did not.
It doesn't hurt to try since the trial is free.
Good Luck,
Will
same here... help pls...
any one yet has found a solution for this issue??? 2days ago my Kaiser suddenly started with same problems, buttons dont work and the recorder goes on, any one yet found a way to fix it??? thanks...
I have no idea if this will actually help anyone but I installed japanese input on my kaiser once and during the process a registry got edited that stopped my hardware keyboard and the hardware keys (front keys) from working and the fix was to correct the value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010411]
edit the 0010411 value to "00000409"
again I have no idea if this will help but it wouldnt hurt to check to see if the registry somehow got changed. Goodluck and I hope you guys figure it out.
didnt work...
dantegl36 said:
I have no idea if this will actually help anyone but I installed japanese input on my kaiser once and during the process a registry got edited that stopped my hardware keyboard and the hardware keys (front keys) from working and the fix was to correct the value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010411]
edit the 0010411 value to "00000409"
again I have no idea if this will help but it wouldnt hurt to check to see if the registry somehow got changed. Goodluck and I hope you guys figure it out.
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thanks anyways "dantegl36" but it didnt work...
I have the same issue
This is intresting, I just posted on this, as I am having the same issue, which of course just started a few days ago. I have the updated UI as well but I installed it as well.
Any idea how to fix it??
keyboard fix "edfc" problem
yes , kaiser tweak slide wake disabled ...it OK
Greetings from Olsztyn Poland
Unfortunately, the problem returned it was only a temporary improvement, sorry
For my tytn2 after rom upgrade, the front buttons do not respond except the central one. the side buttons are responding under the win only but in the bootloader screen they don't respond. and I cannot make a hard reset.
I did a hard reset through the setting menu but still the problem has not been solved. Adding on that the keyboard doesn't work except the arrow keys.
Do anyone can figure a solution for that. except the hardware problem bec I am out of warranty.
Did anyone was able to solve the problem fully?
oo wow, i have the same problem. hope theres a fix
adding to that the the bluetooth is turnino on by itself even if I switched it off and the device by itself after time of switching it off it refuse to start again unless I did a soft reset.
I tried all the avilabe suggestion but nothing worked.
Hiya
This seems to be a problem with the TyTn II - there are several threads in this forum about it, none of which have any working solutions that I ever found...
I spent ages trying different ROMS, Radios and pressing of buttons and haven't found a solution - other than to disown the TyTn II and get another phone! I did pick it up again the other day and it is still refusing to have working buttons or keyboard (as reported by others, only the central buttons seems to work all the time as a Start Menu button).
I did manage to stop it eating battery at a ridiculous rate by turning it to specific radio settings rather than letting it find its own GPRS/ 3G and phone band. I think it was in this thread
I was considering sending my TynTn II to HTC, but I'm not sure it's going to be worth the postage and their service fees as I've already replaced it with a Touch Pro 2. Then again if we ALL sent them in, they might acknowledge some sort of problem with this model.
samstables said:
Hiya
This seems to be a problem with the TyTn II - there are several threads in this forum about it, none of which have any working solutions that I ever found...
I spent ages trying different ROMS, Radios and pressing of buttons and haven't found a solution - other than to disown the TyTn II and get another phone! I did pick it up again the other day and it is still refusing to have working buttons or keyboard (as reported by others, only the central buttons seems to work all the time as a Start Menu button).
I did manage to stop it eating battery at a ridiculous rate by turning it to specific radio settings rather than letting it find its own GPRS/ 3G and phone band. I think it was in this thread
I was considering sending my TynTn II to HTC, but I'm not sure it's going to be worth the postage and their service fees as I've already replaced it with a Touch Pro 2. Then again if we ALL sent them in, they might acknowledge some sort of problem with this model.
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can I know how did u mange to change the rom? bec even my side buttons refuse to work whenever I am at the bootloader screen and the upgrade through the active sync failed.
Hi all,
Since a couple of weeks my X1 has the following problem.
- Key on the front do not work
-- Backlight lits up but no responce from key or wrong responce (starts dailing last number)
- keyboard no responce
-- keys lid up but no correct responce
-phone starts dailing last dailed nr automatically (phone laying on table and not touching it, it still dailes the last nr at random times)
-restarting no help.
-soft restart no help
-battery removed and wait >4 days... problem solved but returns after 3 days (give or take)
Had windows 6.1 installed at first when the problem started.
Now I have 6.5 SEX1 version installed but same problem occurred.
anybody ideas?? or even recognize the issue? could not find a simmilar issue
kind regards
Wally
Sounds like you have hardware issues. Still got yer warranty? If so, reflash orignal everything and send it back because its obviously more than a firmware problem
Hmm... sounds bad..... I have no Warrenty anymore.... does this mean my phone will slowly but surely turn into an nice brick.....
any ideas how to fix this... except buying a new one....
You could try disassembling the whole unit, and cleaning all of your contacts and ensuring that all of your connections inside are secure.
No guarantees it will help, but if you are at the point of giving it up for lost then it couldn't hurt.
Cleaned my phone today... took it appart to the last screw, cleaned it..... unfortunately no help.
Responds to the 1st button, then no responce to the following...
Well, if it's only the buttons, you could use an application like AE Button Plus to disable them alltogether. Then you can just only only the screen itself to control the phone.
Thanks for the suggestion, but that is not what I am looking for .... (yet)
I hope there is a way to fix this, hopefully somebody had the same issue and was able to solve the issue.... if not... I can always use that program then.
Wally850 said:
Thanks for the suggestion, but that is not what I am looking for .... (yet)
I hope there is a way to fix this, hopefully somebody had the same issue and was able to solve the issue.... if not... I can always use that program then.
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I've been lurking these forums for a while and I have never had, or seen reports of the problem you describe. I'm assuming you tried the search function (google) as well. If that turns up empty too, you're out of options.
Had a very similar problem when my phone got slightly wet, dropped from ear under tap when washing my hands. Problem didnt show for a few days so didnt think it was the water, but in case it was I heat soaked it by leaving it behind glass on a sunny day while charging. It got very hot but after a few treatments it was cured and has been ok for a year.
It realy was unuseable as the keyboard and all buttons were giving totaly false random responces.
Worth a try.
Yes I searched on Google as well... no help unfortunately.
Although I took my phone appart, and cleaned it so it should be dry.
I can always put in in the oven and heat is up to .. lets say 55 degr.C and leave it for an hour to bake..... need frosting on that afterwards....
tell you more tomorrow
just tried my luck using the oven.... no help.
I am out of ideas....
think I will try that buttonprogram afterall....
thanks for helping
Did you use this tutorial??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535664
My red power/call end/sleep button stopped working two days ago. It won't respond in any way and it just happened in the middle of the day during normal usage. I tried a full wipe and that didn't fix it. I'm past my warranty with HTC so I cannot send it back. Any suggestions for a hardware fix or for formatting another key to function in the way the power button used to?
EDIT: I am going to try and remap my keys to make the phone usable now, but I was hoping to sell the phone so any suggestions on how to fix it would be great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551344&highlight=MOD
This was probably the closest thing I could find to what you're looking for.
Hope this helps, and good luck. :/
Thanks Spartus for point that thread out. I have pouring through the forum and must have missed that one. I am going to try it out.
I know it's been said before i've googled it and stuff but when the delete key is hit on my keyboard i get a JHGL and a volume lower key and if i hit the back key on my phone i get a U542i3 input. the phone has NEVER been dropped in water and it just started happening randomly.
is there any solutions i can do myself to open it up and fix it? Im not covered under warranty so that's not an option for me.
ryohazuki said:
I know it's been said before i've googled it and stuff but when the delete key is hit on my keyboard i get a JHGL and a volume lower key and if i hit the back key on my phone i get a U542i3 input. the phone has NEVER been dropped in water and it just started happening randomly.
is there any solutions i can do myself to open it up and fix it? Im not covered under warranty so that's not an option for me.
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You can take it apart and clean it.
But first, I would investigate possible SOFTWARE issues. Wipe it clean and load a new system on it.
Yeah, my friend gave me the phone stock when it had the problem then I wiped it flashed it etc and the problem still occured.
Can you confirm if this worked? I have a similar issue:
I have a similar problem but not as severe. Almost all buttons work ok, just the buttons in the middle of the hw keyboard like y, h, b and space sometimes print other stuff, b sometimes writes a few characters and opens up the search, n sometimes writes some characters with an 'enter' in between etc. and these random outputs are usually the same, ie I get the same stuff by pressing b over n over again. They work fine after some pressing, and I've noticed if I press these keys immediately after pressing something else, they work fine. The problems has persisted through rooting, flashing, radio change, bootloader change etc. Anyone know what this problem is? Is it a hardware issue should I get it checked? The hardware guys here charge so much I have to be sure before I take this to them. Any way I can correct it myself? Any help would be appreciated.
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Please let me know.
My torx tools aren't small enough so I haven't bought a pack yet to actually try it yet. Im really interested in fixing this G1 so im not sure yet what to do.
Hi ryohazuki!
ryohazuki said:
I know it's been said before i've googled it and stuff but when the delete key is hit on my keyboard i get a JHGL and a volume lower key and if i hit the back key on my phone i get a U542i3 input. the phone has NEVER been dropped in water and it just started happening randomly.
is there any solutions i can do myself to open it up and fix it? Im not covered under warranty so that's not an option for me.
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I'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem.
On HTC Dream there are several GPIO's involved with scanning the keypad, hardware keys and trackball sensors.
These GPIO's of the SoC (MSM7201A) inside are connected to 4-line ESD circuits to protect the chip, prevent voltage peaks and stuff.
Please have a look at this post or read the whole thread.
I found out that these circuits might be harmed by some electrical effects. As a result some of the GPIO's are shorted and affect the behaviour of your device in a strange way.
It's not sure what exactely causes this short circuit... maybe some peak voltage while using the wall charger or some strange inductive effect.
Maybe these protection circuits are little bit weak concerning electrical specs.
Whatever, as you might see at the date of my posts in that thread, i fighted several weeks to solve this issue and i'm pretty sure it's the same effect that causes your device to go mad.
Regards,
scholbert
I have this exact issue. I can rework/solder very small parts and would be willing to try your fix but I really don't think it can be a hardware issue, one because everyone gets the same gibberish and two because all keys function normally in recovery console. What am i missing?