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[01.09.09] Touch-IT Leo v1.0

Hey guys, check out my new Rhodium rom
I will update this thread with more info later tonight.
Untill then:
Check it out

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also reserved for future use

Good to see you here mate ... your ROM'S were great on my Xperia ... used 3.5 for ages then 7 as well ... never found a need to change

GLAD TO SEE YOU HERE!
welcome to the world of rhodium!

I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!!!!
Welcome back mate!!
What can I say... Wow...

Hi there, i tried your Rom last night and just a couple of things i noticed that seem to be popping up in a few of these cooked roms...
my Gwes.exe started around 13mb and over night jumped up to 32mb, this is from a fresh install, nothing installed and hard resetted....
Your lockscreen at first fine then eventually displayed the classic only half screen cover issue...
other then that everything worked perfect though i wish total commander was unisntallable...

redmanmark86 said:
Hi there, i tried your Rom last night and just a couple of things i noticed that seem to be popping up in a few of these cooked roms...
my Gwes.exe started around 13mb and over night jumped up to 32mb, this is from a fresh install, nothing installed and hard resetted....
Your lockscreen at first fine then eventually displayed the classic only half screen cover issue...
other then that everything worked perfect though i wish total commander was unisntallable...
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yeah, I know about lockscreen Its made to skin the 230xx ++ builds withe the new 6.5 GUI (big buttons etc) it works better there, but they still have some work to do on that.
Rom is using ram/xip diffrently then most other roms, use more memory, but increase speed in many operations.
ceers

Not enough traffic on htcpedia ? lol

itje said:
yeah, I know about lockscreen Its made to skin the 230xx ++ builds withe the new 6.5 GUI (big buttons etc) it works better there, but they still have some work to do on that.
Rom is using ram/xip diffrently then most other roms, use more memory, but increase speed in many operations.
ceers
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i understand that because it uses modules over .dll however the ram does rise over 32mb and eventually the system just became totally unresponsive until a softreset...

redmanmark86 said:
i understand that because it uses modules over .dll however the ram does rise over 32mb and eventually the system just became totally unresponsive until a softreset...
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hm, I have not experienced same thing, I have not had to reset all day..but I guess it depends on usage
Im just flashing this rom with new 23041, lets see if it works better

are you considering a newer build of 6.5 n manil 2.1 since we all know 2.5 is too unstable for everyday use

romeo0119 said:
are you considering a newer build of 6.5 n manil 2.1 since we all know 2.5 is too unstable for everyday use
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yes I am

Great to see you here Itje.
This is sign from the Lord.

sign..hehe
Working on a update to 23041 w/netcf3.7 final

itje said:
sign..hehe
Working on a update to 23041 w/netcf3.7 final
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Thats sweet, 23041 with manila 2.1, I think that will be the bomb.

Good to see you here itje. I'm pretty sure u have everything you need but if you need anything from me just drop me a line

can you make one with Windows vista taskbar icon set..
and plz make a new build with manilla 2.5 ..
i love youre roms.. all my htc phones had youre roms on it..
only the phones are broken..
good job..
im downloading youre rom now.
and im gonne test it.

Just want to say that all your ROMS look truely excellent....I was wondering can you recommend a previous build which may not look as good as your latest stuff but is more stable and doesnt freeze up on the odd occassion??
Cheers dude your a legend

sfecondi said:
Just want to say that all your ROMS look truely excellent....I was wondering can you recommend a previous build which may not look as good as your latest stuff but is more stable and doesnt freeze up on the odd occassion??
Cheers dude your a legend
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never seen any 6.5 builds that is completly stable...errr...btw, never seen ANY winmo versions that are stable man...its micosoft
joke(?) aside...
If you want stable, then 6.1 builds would be better

the how to?

hi, i just got my x1 a few weeks back and im looking to upgrade the rom and what i realized is it involves many more steps than what was required for my universal before?
i upgraded the official rom via the SD card method and that worked like a charm. But what i dont know is which rom can i upgrade to on my x1... as it seems that they are all based on R2... R3... etc?
so what im lookin for is a fast and simple answer on which roms i can upgrade on my x1. The method is not a problem. The rom selection is. And plus, which is the best rom you would recommend?
thankx

The best way is, imho:
Check the threads here. In each, you can find a description of the ROM,
a discussion about possible bugs and solutions, and recommendations from
the xda community.
Basically, you can flash any ROM you will find here. Some like the newest,
more "unofficial" builds of WinMo 6.5 with the Windows start menu at the
bottom, others prefer the "official" build with the menu at the top.
Again others prefer either a Windows only ROM, some Manila 2.1, some the
"latest" version 2.5, these are from the "Leo".
Almost the same applies to the radio/rilphone version.
If you have some spare time, make your own trials - start maybe with the
ROMs from agent_47, NRGZ28, spikegotti, itje, MrRusch... and soon, you
will have your very own, personal preferred solution.

thanks. another question? what is "manila"? unfimiliar with this term.

mazlano27 said:
thanks. another question? what is "manila"? unfimiliar with this term.
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Manila is the user interface by HTC, which seems to be a favorite of many
X1 users here at xda - there are many ROMs which are cooked with it.
Version 2.5 is taken from the upcoming Leo model, while 2.1 is from other
models, such as Rhodium and Topaz - those are the closest to the X1 from
hardware specifications. One kind of a "disadvantage" in the perception of
some users in the 2.5 version is missing landscape support for virtually all
functions, while 2.1 is fully landscape.
Manila brings eye candy, but also finger friendliness to WinMo devices. You
can easily recognize it with the big digital clock at the home screen.

tictac0566 said:
(...) One kind of a "disadvantage" in the perception of some users in the 2.5 version is missing landscape support for virtually all
functions, while 2.1 is fully landscape.
(...)
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I'd like to point out that the 2.5 version seems to be a little heavy for the X1.
The manila 2.1 from Rhodium\Topaz have a nice look & feel to them. Also battery life is VERY good with these versions (3 to 6 days on a single charge, depending on how you use your X1). Manila 2.1 does not have the Facebook and Twitter tabs, and has different Favorite and Home screen layouts.
My advise would be to go with a manila 2.1 ROM. My personal favorit is the FireStorm Rhodium\TOPAZ by Agent_47. It's loaded with lots of extra programs, and runs very stabile.
Excelent everyday use!

FireStorm Rhodium\TOPAZ by Agent_47? will give that a try? the htc leo is the HD 2 yes? and thanks for the clarification on the manila. been a great help. Is there much difference in the manila and the touch flo 3d cab? the cab seems to be stable too... and im not a big fan of wm6.5. ive never tried it before... how much free ram is there after the update?

mazlano27 said:
FireStorm Rhodium\TOPAZ by Agent_47? will give that a try? the htc leo is the HD 2 yes? and thanks for the clarification on the manila. been a great help. Is there much difference in the manila and the touch flo 3d cab? the cab seems to be stable too... and im not a big fan of wm6.5. ive never tried it before... how much free ram is there after the update?
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Manila is actually a nickname of what was called TouchFlo3D earlier, and to
complete the confusion, you will maybe read "Sense" sometimes, too. In fact,
that is again the same. Most people here use "Manila" and versions 2.1/2.5.
To install Manila with a cab is definitely quite a fast procedure, but the real
performance of your device will not be as fast as possible - even if stable.
The free RAM is different from ROM to ROM, lower WinMo "pure" ones are
somewhat around 30% memory usage, the lowest Manila ROMs are at
around 35-40% with 2.1, 45-55% with Manila 2.5 - but then again, this is
different from ROM to ROM.
In the sum, maybe a Touch X 10.8.2 or agent´s "Photon" ROM (standard)
could be a good point to start.
Once your are happy, the chef most probably will not be unhappy if you
take care of his/her donation fund...
Happy flashing!

thanks buddy uve been a great help. one last question, i have just upgraded my rom using the micro sd method. if i wanted to go back to my wm 6.1 official R3A rom which was released a lil over a week back, could i use that .nbh file to downgrade as if upgrading?
what im trying to ask is i just put the R3a rom file in my formatted sd card and load the phone in boot loader more and let the magic happen or a more complex process is required like backin up and restoring stock rom?

mazlano27 said:
thanks buddy uve been a great help. one last question, i have just upgraded my rom using the micro sd method. if i wanted to go back to my wm 6.1 official R3A rom which was released a lil over a week back, could i use that .nbh file to downgrade as if upgrading?
what im trying to ask is i just put the R3a rom file in my formatted sd card and load the phone in boot loader more and let the magic happen or a more complex process is required like backin up and restoring stock rom?
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I´ve seen your 2nd thread asking about speedy ROMs, and it seems you´re
already happily flashing...
Here´s the link for what to do in warranty/service needs...

yes happily flashing indeed. thanks buddy. just played around and got the hang of it. i understand it now.

Searching for a pure 6.5.3 Update

Hello folks,
I appriciate the hard work of all the chiefs. The Roms a most of the time close to perfect.
But, since they are usually customized by the chiefs, they are not 100 % that what I am looking for.
This is why am asking now, if one of chiefs could just bring out a pure windows mobile 6.5.3. update with only the basic stuff in it.
This might be an idea for the other windows versions as well, as some people prefer 6.5.or 6.1 versions.
I thank you folks in advance, if someone eventualy comes up with that rom.
Cheers
Jens

100% pure would mean the camera would not work
the optical "joystick" would not work and the led's would not work
everything that x1 got that is not "normal" wm is a customisation

Well,
let me then adjust:
It would be nice, ifit is a rom as pure as possible, with all the basic features as there is the camera, joystick, led etc.
It should not have other software , like panels, widgets, themes etc.
This would be me request.
OR, if possible, having a software, that would allow me to delete all the precooked stuff that I do not need.
Anya, this is only an idea. Maybe on of the things is possible.
Cheers
jens

I think Christian's clean 6.5.3 ROM is pretty close to what you are hoping for.

Well, I have that one on my X1 right now,
and you are right: It is the closest I can get right now. But there is still a whole lot of MB used in that rom. About 135 Mb. It has alot of themes ands applications in it.
If I look at gtrabs pure 6.5 beta version, which has only about70 MB size.
This is why I suppose, that the 6.5.3 Version could be reduced to a minimum.
This is why I hope, somebody would upload a very pure verison.
Cheers
Jens

Try 826x. It's my fav at the moment! Just search google for 826x!

jobarr said:
Try 826x. It's my fav at the moment! Just search google for 826x!
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Hey, thanks for the advice, I'll try it out.
Is it a fast and stayable rom?
Cheers
Jens

ring-bearer said:
I think Christian's clean 6.5.3 ROM is pretty close to what you are hoping for.
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I have been using Christian's 6.5.3 Rom build 23518 for about a week now. I absolutely love it, surprisingly stable too. This is the cleanest 6.5.3 around and I highly recommend it

I guess that by the moment the
[Sutyi's SECOND ROM] UPLOADED -> 28205_BASIC
is the newest one close to what you have asked for.

jumper0 said:
Is it a fast and stayable rom?
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It has been for me.

jobarr said:
It has been for me.
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I have it on the X1 right now, but that rom is unfourtunatly packed with software which I do not need.
Is there a way to get rid of the unneeded software? Like deleting themes and panelmanager. It is not listed in the "remove software" section.
Nevertheless, the rom is quite fast, though not as fast as christians rom is.
@ st-mark: isn't sutys roms a 6.5 rom and not a 6.5.3 rom? I thought he has the windows start button on top and not at the bottom.
Cheers
Jens

st-mark said:
I guess that by the moment the
[Sutyi's SECOND ROM] UPLOADED -> 28205_BASIC
is the newest one close to what you have asked for.
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I am trying it right now, and you are right. This one comes really really close to what I need. In fact, I think it is what I need
Thanks for the info. And by the way, it is a 6.5.3 version even though it is marked as a 6.5 version
Cheers
Jens

Sutyi's SECOND ROM
Check out the thread. The lite version just appears (at the bottom of headmessage).

st-mark said:
Check out the thread. The lite version just appears (at the bottom of headmessage).
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Dude, that one wasn't online this afternoon.
I'll try it out right now.
Thanks.
Cheers
Jens

jumper0 said:
Dude, that one wasn't online this afternoon.
I'll try it out right now.
Thanks.
Cheers
Jens
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Hello i would love to here an update compared to christians rom wich is what i am currently using. Speed and Stability is my main concern.

jdogg4000 said:
Hello i would love to here an update compared to christians rom wich is what i am currently using. Speed and Stability is my main concern.
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Well, I tried Sutys Roms and the 826x Rom
The 826x Rom was acually pretty nice. It was quite fast and stable, even though it was loaded with a lot of other software. People who like the X2 Stuff should have a lock at that one. (the 826x was marked as a 6.5.5 Rom)
The size of the Rom was about 136 MB as far as I remember.
Compared to Christians Rom I felt, that Christians Rom was a bit more fluent, but almost no difference in Speed and Stayability. The 826x Rom has a different Software package. There were some nice apps included like powerradio, and some other stuff I haven't seen before. So the 826x is worth a try, though it has a lot of software included.
Sutys Basic Rom was a little problematic for me. I had troubles with the screen turning off after waking the device up. This happens two to three times and then I got to the homescreen.
This procedure happend often (well, often: I used the rom for about 8 hours . Suty wrote, that this might have been because of the SmartLock Programm. I do not know if other users had the same problem.
Besides that it went quite fast, though in my eyes not as fast as Christians Rom. And there were still some apps I would not have needed.
Finally Sutys Lite Rom:
That one is for me right now the optimal rom. It does not have a lot of fancy apps included. In fact, more or less only the basic and needed stuff to get the X1 working (Including camera etc.).
The Rom Size is about 70 MB or less, as far as I remember.
It is really fast and stayable. No problems yet with this Rom. (Only one activesync thing, but that was not caused by the rom, but by my desktop).
If one needs a real clean and light version, Sutys lite Rom is the one I would recommend.
Cheers
Jens

What about batteries?
I'm using Sutys Lite Rom too.
And I met a battery trouble, described at the page#13.
I wonder if you have the same? Or may be some of my software spoils?

st-mark said:
I'm using Sutys Lite Rom too.
And I met a battery trouble, described at the ...
I wonder if you have the same? Or may be some of my software spoils?
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Build 28205 had battery trouble on X1.
It's my conclusion after...
Reading many posts here..
Testing few X1 Build 28205 roms..
For example...
On Christian 28205 build rom (version 3.904) in 12 hours, phone lost 49% of battery (sleep time, all things off, etc.), but on build 23518 (version 4.001) battery works fine for me now (still testing).

Something unbelievable
On the last two days my batteries drained totally in ~16 hours.
Today I used phone in the same intensivity, but I have ~40% else at the end of the day. Fantastic! I'm going to renovate the ROM and use it for few days with NO third-pary software installed.
Sorry for my English too ;-)
PS: Take a look at my last message at the subject thread.

dawidmos said:
Build 28205 had battery trouble on X1.
It's my conclusion after...
Reading many posts here..
Testing few X1 Build 28205 roms..
For example...
On Christian 28205 build rom (version 3.904) in 12 hours, phone lost 49% of battery (sleep time, all things off, etc.), but on build 23518 (version 4.001) battery works fine for me now (still testing).
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I kinnda disagree...the 4.001 also drains the battrey...i installed it for a day, charged it 100%..went for a bath, came back and saw after a couple of messages and 1 call, the battry was 86%....so, yea the battrey issue still persists...but now im looking forward for a WinMo 6.7..

Best Sense 2.5 Rom?

I've stayed away from anything Manilla for months now. I was tired of a sluggish interface. However I was thinking about giving it another shot to see what our fantastic chefs were able to do it it. So in everyone's opinion what is currently the FASTEST 2.5 rom out there that uses the WM 6.5.5. Any input would be much appreciated.
Oh and another thing I was curious about. Another reason I stopped using it was because it didn't really cooperate well with Iconsoft Phonex. Does anyone know if they clash still? (One example of a problem i had was HTC favorite contacts wouldn't go through to place a call when clicking a contact)
thanks

opinion here
read, try and find out 4 yourself
best

I am asking for speed, that is something measurable. I remember people would ask these all the time and quite often there was a general consensus like "Try Touch X Final. Its super fast!" or "Oh man! spikegotti's UnOff series is the best!"
So i was just wondering if there was a specific ROM that most people had more success with than others. If you don't have an answer or are annoyed by the thread I am sorry, but no one is forcing you to post an answer. I was just looking for anyone that had legitimate input. I'd prefer not to completely waste two days flashing every single ROM only to find out that i still dont really like manilla

Well, then do some research on your own. You know, users talk about how they felt the speed is like in threads of different roms. Have a look what rom appeals to you and then read some comments...would not be bad, would it?

I agree with other people, but I would also advice to start your searching from Valkyrie TR 6.0.28232

Try Valkyrie's rom. In my opinion it's fast,stable and you have all needed applications preinstalled

To help your case:
click the link in my signature. There are pretty good, fast, stable and bug-less roms on that blog. Also you could try blaze or valkyries like it has been mentioned already.

So except Valkryie is there another ROM that has Sense 2.5 and stable...Thanx a TON!!

I've just installed this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637679
and its quite good so far.

Touch-IT BR 21893
I've flashed this one awhile ago and its working perfectly for me. So fast and stable but i disabled HTC messaging, u can search for the cab here in the forum... Cheers!

Go for Rotastrain's Blaze!
It's fast and stable, and any bugs are usually dealt with immediately.

SonyXperia said:
I've just installed this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637679
and its quite good so far.
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Does the battery drain, also do u have the SOD(Phone freezing after sleep mode) and more than that, is it stable??

I genuinely recommend NRG's Energy Leo 23541 build - i've been using it for just over a week and it is simply amazing; with all my own apps added to the plethora of USEFUL apps already installed, it still flies along at top speed.
Note: Best practise is always to flash the ROM, then hard reset (Press the reset button whilst holding down the two front buttons under the screen) - this ensures best speed/stability!
See the ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
Baring in mind i'm a tight b****rd; i have actually donated for this ROM. That says something!!
FingAZ.

dalgibbard said:
I genuinely recommend NRG's Energy Leo 23541 build - i've been using it for just over a week and it is simply amazing; with all my own apps added to the plethora of USEFUL apps already installed, it still flies along at top speed.
Note: Best practise is always to flash the ROM, then hard reset (Press the reset button whilst holding down the two front buttons under the screen) - this ensures best speed/stability!
See the ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
Baring in mind i'm a tight b****rd; i have actually donated for this ROM. That says something!!
FingAZ.
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dONT U get the SODs???I hvae heard that u have to update the radio also..im not very sure if i want to do that....

circleofomega said:
Does the battery drain, also do u have the SOD(Phone freezing after sleep mode) and more than that, is it stable??
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Hi,
My battery doesnt drain any faster with this ROM installed I get normal battery life.
Not sure about hte SOD issue you speak about.. if you mean does the phone freeze after I've unlocked the screen lock then no I generally havent experianced any freezeing on the phone since installing this ROM so basically I find it very stable.

Which is the best rom with sense and gtx theme?

i'm considering flashing a WinMo 6.5 rom with sense 2.5
which is the most reliable and the fastet one out there with GTX theme?
Should i go with Energy ROM?
sry but I don't understand the whole sense, MaxManila and Cookie home tab
so any help will be greatly appreciated
thanx in advance

I wouldn't go for Energy, the battery life is horrible, I even got a new battery.

then which one do u recommend??

wesjeex3 said:
I wouldn't go for Energy, the battery life is horrible, I even got a new battery.
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ROTFLOL

i downloaded Energy Gtx rom 21905 build
but i want to remap the volume up/down to adjust volume
i tried to search but i couldn't find any help

By the way, I use Energy ROM gtx aswell and my battery life is fine! Usually 2,5 days before I have to recharge.

@wesjeex3 Energy's battery is fine, maybe the problem is with your rom, or you're forgetting something running in the background?
Which is the best rom WITHOUT Sense? I find in not that usable and i'm not so much into eyecandy... Valkyrie was fine, but got some bugs...

I'm on Valkyrie Firestorm and using GTX.

i have been messing around with energy for a couple of hours and till now it works fine it impresses me most of the time with some features so i guess its fine except the volume control thing i can't control volume any help?

Ok, then I'll reflash it. The cause I flashed another ROM was because the one who wanted to call me, get my voicemail.

Jack V5.X
For me the best Sense ROM for X1 is the one from jackleung. I use his ROMS since Jack 3.X, that was WM 6.1.

SPIKY'S Roms, 1000000% fast and stable. flash it and you wont regret.
"http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564028"

There was a member called WildKID (u know whom i am taklng about) he had a ROM that was superb..sense 2.5 with WINMO 6.5..i have a kovisimg.nbh..if u want it

Wild Child probably...
I don't really like these kind of threads, but I consider stickying one, best with a rather neutral title, so all opinions, experiences, feedback, performance hints,... to all roms related can be collected in one single thread and not in 200 as it is now, either extend this or maybe this here w/o restriction to sense and gtx
opinions pls, either as pm or post (which will be deleted later on to keep the thread clean and on-topic)
Mod. edit: not dev related, moved to general

it'd be a great idea to extend this post rather every1 starting there own thread
if all reviews and info about ROMs r in one place, people will only have to search and read

Wild Child untamed v1.3 kikcs ass!!
Thumb's Up for Wildchild's untamed 1.3 ROM,it proven itself to be absolute rock solid for me!
** EDIT: Im sorry didnt read the title properly,
!No GTX on the rom, but if you need reliability go for this rom!***
Let's put it this way, I need a phone that is reliable to me, it should wake me up in the morning!So i really can't use those overnight freezes.
I need to be able to charge the phone whenever its needed without risking any unexpected SOD's.
I need it to have a fingerfriendly OS, so i really needed a WM6.5 rom.
with Htc SenseUI! All Sense2.5 Roms and most sense2.1 Rom's caused my phone to freeze while charging overnight, or leaving WIFI connected.
Flashing Wildchilds rom whas such a relieve(Winmo6.5+Sense2.1+SE Panels+plenty of storage to add whatever you like!)
To bad SE didnt build this rom themself as an upgrade. It revived my Xperia to a kickass phone and kept it that way for at least the last five months.
Good luck,
Jeffrey

circleofomega said:
There was a member called WildKID (u know whom i am taklng about) he had a ROM that was superb..sense 2.5 with WINMO 6.5..i have a kovisimg.nbh..if u want it
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WC is now on HTCPedia.

WildChild disappeared
circleofomega said:
There was a member called WildKID (u know whom i am taklng about) he had a ROM that was superb..sense 2.5 with WINMO 6.5..i have a kovisimg.nbh..if u want it
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hi pls could you give me a link to this wildchild rom or maybe PM me
i've been looking for it for a while