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Do you prefer a clean version of WM6 or with extra applications?
And which applications do you like?
C_shekar - I think you need some investigation which kind of soft user needs.
So let us post our vision of required soft preinstalled in ROM.
as far as I understand we taking about freeware.
My List:
1. Touch flo (if there are any possibility)
2. Dict
3. Alreader light 2\Hali reader
4. Total Commander Mobile
5. TCMP
6. Pdf - viewer
7. WM5-storage
8. Some sort of timer.
9. ICQ application (qip for example)
10. Gsplayer
11. Rar mobile
1. No RAM disk
2. 24MB Pagepool
3. TouchFlo
I think the ROM should stay clean, so the user can decide what apps he wants to add.
I think one can only add the HTC home tab thingie!
Cheers
divocak
no ram disk ??
man are you mad ?
for what reason you need all amount of RAM ?
Are you know that without ram-disk device SLOW DOWN ??
But I`ve agree to save some extra mem by lowering page poll. (I think 16 mb will be ok )
No, just leave the pagepool at 32 as I think it's neccessary to keep the Rom goes fast. No more software should be added I hope 'cause users can add them in later on. Just all the important fixes and patches. And that's all. Anyone want to personalize the ROM can do that by creating an extendedRom in their SD, is it, so just try to keep the version pure (one of the best exapmle is buzz 3.33). But, the ROMs that personalized before by certain developers are appreciated as well.
obaz said:
divocak
Are you know that without ram-disk device SLOW DOWN ??
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Oh i dont know that - i think that ram-disk is only for storage. thanx for info.
I agree. The upgrade rom should be a clean one so a person can choose exactly what software they require and will use. We must also remember that we all use our PPC for different reasons so there will never be a rom with software we all want or need.
Clean and Clear
Hello!!! Yes I think the WM6 should be clean version, if someone wants to install apps they can do so. The reason to keep the clean version is to make the device run faster.
Although there should be a clean version but also there should be a choice of software (seprately given). If need be people can install them on their Device.
Kind Regards
Jay
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
some softwares are necessary...
because not all of Himalaya users are goood at play the phone,they need it quick and all-in-one.
may be we can cook 2 ROMs,one clean version of WM6 and one with extra applications
Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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But not installing extra software will give choice to people what to install and what not to install. Dont you think it would be a good idea to leave it to people regardless of space or memory issues?
Kind Regards
Jay
very very clean please
What I personally use from 2003 and 2005 ROMs is:
phone
contacts
notes
tasks
calender
SMS
activesync
camera
windows media
bluetooth for mono headset, gps receiver, audio over car radio (behaves like mono headset and mutes for phone or navigation)
connection manager
picture viewer
sometimes Word, wouldn't miss it
Never used:
games
download agent
file explorer
gprs on/off
internet explorer
internet sharing
modem link
search
Powerpoint
WM5torage
email
Very unwelcome: certificates
I do use all settings from the tabs Personal and System, from the connections settings I only use Bluetooth
But -although a contradiction to my wish for a very clean ROM- I do believe that not only I, but most of us do like some features like smartdial, TouchFlo, PDF, VERY LOUD ringtones and repeating alerts for notifications, missed calls, missed txt messages and so on. And localisation would be very welcome too.
Theoretically it would be best if either during the flash operation or at first boot after flashing it would be possible to make your own selections using some kind of wizard/script that would be intelligent enough to warn for example that the help files will no longer be available if you remove IE, that probably SMS will no longer be available if email program is not installed (I guess).
Maggy said:
What I personally use from 2003 and 2005 ROMs is:
phone
contacts
notes
tasks
calender
SMS
activesync
camera
windows media
bluetooth for mono headset, gps receiver, audio over car radio (behaves like mono headset and mutes for phone or navigation)
connection manager
picture viewer
sometimes Word, wouldn't miss it
Never used:
games
download agent
file explorer
gprs on/off
internet explorer
internet sharing
modem link
search
Powerpoint
WM5torage
email
Very unwelcome: certificates
I do use all settings from the tabs Personal and System, from the connections settings I only use Bluetooth
But -although a contradiction to my wish for a very clean ROM- I do believe that not only I, but most of us do like some features like smartdial, TouchFlo, PDF, VERY LOUD ringtones and repeating alerts for notifications, missed calls, missed txt messages and so on. And localisation would be very welcome too.
Theoretically it would be best if either during the flash operation or at first boot after flashing it would be possible to make your own selections using some kind of wizard/script that would be intelligent enough to warn for example that the help files will no longer be available if you remove IE, that probably SMS will no longer be available if email program is not installed (I guess).
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Ya but this is personal List of what you use, if developers starts building personal roms, it will be never ending story.
What I suggested is to build a clean rom, Hyman said the right thing. Build one with basic clean rom and the other with fully loaded and whoever wants which ever they can pick their choice.
Kind Regards
Jay
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But not installing extra software will give choice to people what to install and what not to install. Dont you think it would be a good idea to leave it to people regardless of space or memory issues?
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Personally, I don't think so.
If one wouls want to install some software (common used, for example) he would install it in storage mem. And I could make it into rom instead.
If you don't want to use it - just don't use it
One day we would make a kitchen - and then all could make their own personal rom.
Personally, I can tell you that I'm going to release a clean and speed tweaked rom - once, and then I'm going to start releasing my personalized one.
It seems like we all get the answer now. One pure version and one with all modification that builder desires. No more discussion I guess
bearshare said:
It seems like we all get the answer now. One pure version and one with all modification that builder desires. No more discussion I guess
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yes..i agree with you
jaytheguru said:
Ya but this is personal List of what you use, if developers starts building personal roms, it will be never ending story.
What I suggested is to build a clean rom, Hyman said the right thing. Build one with basic clean rom and the other with fully loaded and whoever wants which ever they can pick their choice.
Kind Regards
Jay
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I wanted to give insight in how I use my Hima, it is by no means a wish list for a personalised ROM. (although volunteers are welcome to cook one for me ;-)
I hope others will give similar insight in their uses.
When I flashed to WM5 I thought I was using a clean ROM. It did come with Powerpoint and Exell, IMHO a waste of space. It didn't come with a working smartdial and it took me a full day to find a smartdial that works on one of my Hima's but not on another almost identical Hima. IMHO an awful waste of time unless you like to reinvent the wheel.
I've seen discussions in other threads about what they do/do not call a "clean" ROM. IMHO a clean ROM should offer as much basic functionality as possible. I believe Smartdial is one of these basic functions.
But every piece of software that you can find elsewhere, like Powerpoint and Exell should in my opinion be left out of the clean ROM, right?
A kitchen would be a good idea. A kitchen with a clear step by step manual that any noob can follow would be even nicer. Perhaps such kitchens were around before the ftp site closed, I'm only here regularly since a week or two.
I downloaded two files with the word kitchen in its name and unfortunately neither explained to me how to use it.
Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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You r absloutly right
Rudegar said:
removing the extra applications will not give more storage
it will not give more memory
it will just mean that the rom part of ones flash is left more empty
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I can't agree with you any more
I was wondering if someone could please help me as I am a complete noob at this. I recently purchased the Tilt (Kaiser) and I love it. My question is what is the best emulator for SNES to run on the tilt and can anyone give me a step by step instruction on how to put it on my phone. I was also curious as to how to put Shadow Of Legend on as well (cant seem to do it). I have plenty of space as I have a 4gb sdhc card. Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you in adavance.
Nick
There are quite a few emulators around. Some people like one and some people will hate it. It's all about personal prefs really.
Have a look around the web http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=snes+emulator+for+pocket+pc&meta=
find a few and install them.... usually they are just a cab file that needs putting on your device and then clicking to run it exactly the same as any other PPC bit of software
Yo guy, stop making the same thread over and over again. The mods keep closing them for a reason you dope.
Sorry man im just getting overly frustrated with this i cant seem to get it on my phone i dont know exactly what to do.
Ok, I'm going to try and close this topic once and for all...
I went to http://www.spicypixel.com/web/page/morphgear/Download.aspx and downloaded MorphGear and SNES9X MorphModule by clicking on the link [CAB].
I then extracted both of the resulting ZIP files on my Vista box, and copied them to my phone using WM Device Center. After the copy was complete, I tapped on both CABs to install them (to Main Memory). I then copied one of my SNES games to my phone (I will not provide any of these because they are illegal unless you have the physical cartridge in your possession).
I then went to Start -> Programs -> Games -> MorphGear, and launched the program. THERE WAS NO MENTION OF NEEDING A SERIAL NUMBER, MorphGear is an open source application.
I then clicked on the Open file icon and browsed to where I copied Super Punch Out (my SNES game of choice) to, and tapped on it to open.
I spent 30 minutes playing it at FULL 60fps with NO slowdown due to piss poor video drivers that we have to work with.
Please do not take this next part the wrong way, but if you do not know how to install a CAB file or copy files to your device using either ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center, you need to do A LOT of reading before you attempt to do anything other than make/receive phone calls on your device.
Good luck, and I hope this helps.
to begin with, i want to tell you all how glad i am to have found and be a part of this community which taught and showed me a lot of things on how to configure and set up a decent working version of Windows Mobile. this is my first winmob phone, after having a dozen java/symbian/s60 operated phones.
i chose the HTC over the iPhone mainly because of the huge possibilities of tweaking, but for an inexperienced (WinMobile) user like me, to kick it off in the right way might prove to be harder than at first expected. so i decided to create this topic not only to ask for your help but hopefully to lay down some basic guidelines for all users new to this forum and to WinMob.
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my ROM version is 1.37.401.3 and my Radio version is 1.00.25.03 - that's how i bought it from store.
1. i installed the advanced confing utility but some options there don't work for me (e.g. Show SIM contacts - disable[doesn't work] or X button - close app [same]). why is that ?
2. is it in anyway possible to modify my start menu app list cause it laggs for about 2-3 seconds before opening the huge list i have there
3. what does the Radio version mean ? from what i've read on these forums, i'm thinking it has to do more than with the basic radio app, right ? what exactly does the higher version (.05) improve ?
4. the ROM version - correct me if i'm wrong .. are there official ROM versions from HTC that can be downloaded from their site that work regardless of the tweakings done to the phone? and how are user made ROMs better ? is there anything consistently better than my current version in terms of battery life and performance ?
5. i've read the manual and it says that the win media player supports .avi files yet mine doesn't open one. anything special i need to know of ?
6. what programs can i install apart from those i've found here? say yahoo messenger, if i don't want to use win messenger. and if that's possible, are there appz especially made for winmobile cause i doubt it that an ordinary PC .exe will work the same
7. is there any way to use the camera from the front of the phone for photos?
8. is there no other possibility of turning the phone ON from sleep mode other than the power button ? if not, where's the timer that sets how many seconds pass before entering sleep mode?
9. if i got it right, tomtom7 is a gps navigation program, right? does it work stand-alone? i mean, no external receiver? and does it connect to the internet while in usage ? what about google maps?
10. any other useful programs to recommend other than the ones found within this section of the forum ? i've read about users using Total Comander.. where can i find that ? or is it the normal PC program ?
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i know these are a lot of questions but honestly these were the first things that popped in my mind after using this phone for nearly 5 days now i'll be grateful for whatever answers, advice and solutions you'll be kind enough to provide.
8. Take out the stylus - wakes it up. Just got mine today and found this out by accident. After all - why read the manual??
9. TomTom 6 is the version I bought for my Trinity, and it works just fine on my Diamond. I just chose Com Port 4 for 'other bluetooth receiver' and it works without the need for an external bluetooth GPS receiver. Curiously it turns bluetooth on while TT is running - then turns it off when stopping TT. Does it really need to connect to itself via bluetooth? Any readers got an idea?
domnu' iliescu,
a. go to:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Diamond
and learn a few basics and in special a few therms some "slang"
b. go to:
http://modmydiamond.info/index.php and learn how to hardspl and flash a new ROM.
the "cooked" ROMs are by far better than the original one (the one u have for example). is like buying a car and using a kit to tune it, make it the way you like it. you tweak the motor and you''l get less consumption (more memory and longer battery life), more speed (faster and smoother diamond) and so on. escuse my car analogy but the thing i love even more than my diamond is my car (i wonder, is it really in this order?).
now, my answers to yr question. i might be wrong on some of the answers but there are enough ppl here hapy to correct me..lol
1. there is a high probability that flashing a new ROM will change that (see a.)
2. for sure flashing will solve it.
3. in simple words, the radio is the function that allows you to make calls, use bluetooth or yr gps. connectivity. see my a. for more info.
4. see the beginning of my replay namely, point b.
5. don't know why, again maybe a new ROM will solve this (strange ..)
6. live it to later. there is somewhere here a post regarding applications and programs supported by diamond. first flash new ROM and new radio, get familiar with the device and forget about applications. there are a few "must have" but again, l a t e r .
7. the camera is for video calls. why do u need to used when u have a better (much better) one dedicated to taking pictures?
8. pull out the stylus is my favorite.
regarding "the timer":
- go to settings/system/power/backlight for adjusting the backlight and go to settings/system/power/advanced for what u call "sleep mode". btw, it is in diamond's manual!
9. the diamond has an internal GPS. no need for external (see yr manual again). you can choose between lots of navigation programs. tomtom, igo8 and google maps (never used google maps, maybe somebody else is going to help you). i am using igo8.
10. total commander is somewhere as a cab file in the thread of one of the many ROMs here. i'll look for it or i'll upload mine somewhere.
important!!
read diamond's manual, keep reading in the forum, ask only after you are certain that the answer is not somewhere here (use search function) and read again some more! "invatzatzi! invatzatzi! invatzatzi!
good luck! Noroc!
On point 8, has anyone managed to wake the phone up/bring the screen light back on without pressing the power button or removing the stylus? Pushing the central button or even the home button would be better.
iliescu902 said:
1. i installed the advanced confing utility but some options there don't work for me (e.g. Show SIM contacts - disable[doesn't work] or X button - close app [same]). why is that ?
You should install diamond tweak, you'll find it on the forum, for easyier twaeking, it got 40 tweaks incl, and you can easy just disable or enable there.
if you hide sim contacs, it will be reset to show again after a soft reset i think.
4. the ROM version - correct me if i'm wrong .. are there official ROM versions from HTC that can be downloaded from their site that work regardless of the tweakings done to the phone? and how are user made ROMs better ? is there anything consistently better than my current version in terms of battery life and performance ?
Yes there is a new rom out, 1.93, you can download it from htc.com, htc e club, register there, and then register your product when you are logged on, and you should be able to install it.
5. i've read the manual and it says that the win media player supports .avi files yet mine doesn't open one. anything special i need to know of ?
Install TCPMP/core player, .avi, .mpeg etc. works there, best player for movies imo.
7. is there any way to use the camera from the front of the phone for photos?
Yes there is, when you use camera, go on settings and press the icon with 2 cameras on, and it will switch to the camera on the front
10. any other useful programs to recommend other than the ones found within this section of the forum ? i've read about users using Total Comander.. where can i find that ? or is it the normal PC program ?
NoData, tcpmp, S2P(music player), diamond TF3D config, diamond tweaks is some of those i find very good to have.
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Title says it all!
I popped both the new sub-forums' thread cherries
Well of the app I have installed I would definitely keep Batti, Google maps, WM6 RDP and Xperia tweak.
Me likey
i use
fring
Skype
SPB Backup
SPB Travel
Coreplayer
Igo8
Resco File Explorer
Xperia Tweak
Touchpal
and Virtual Pool mobile
that is what i install and where i will stay
I'd like
Quick menu
Total commander
.net 3.5 and .netcfg
flashlite 3.1
s2v (with permission obviously)
TF3d
WKTask
fdcsoft taskmanager (and defaults for regedit etc set up)
SKTSync
look this video with touchflow3d in action (I want this app)
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2008/11/06/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-touchflo-3d-demo-video/
Fidalgos said:
look this video with touchflow3d in action (I want this app)
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2008/11/06/sony-ericsson-xperia-x1-touchflo-3d-demo-video/
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we already have that, Im using it now.
Working Flash (for youtube and stuff)
A youtube app
Total commander
Coreplayer
TF3d
Latest Opera Mobile 9.5
Flash support
Total Commander
TouchFlo3D
Battery Meter or changed battery icons (e.g. FInixNOver's)
crap removed (trailers, sample albums, etc)
Google Maps, GMail 2.0 java app, Opera Mini 4.1 java app
Skype
PocketRAR
No apps what-so-ever, just a basic, base rom, that includes a folder full of cabs, with a launcher than allows you to select which cabs to install.
Flash the new rom, then manually exec the launcher, put ticks next to the apps you want, networks you want setup etc, then hit the go button and sit back while your device gets only the stuff you actually want installed.
Thats my ideal!
Nigel
veletron said:
No apps what-so-ever, just a basic, base rom, that includes a folder full of cabs, with a launcher than allows you to select which cabs to install.
Flash the new rom, then manually exec the launcher, put ticks next to the apps you want, networks you want setup etc, then hit the go button and sit back while your device gets only the stuff you actually want installed.
Thats my ideal!
Nigel
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Seconded! I like to choose!
just a plain basic rom with basic utilities like CE commander, network wizard, java, mms, enlarge start menu. No trial (spb-something), no beta (tf3d... I can update myself tnx ), nothing
THJahar said:
Seconded! I like to choose!
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Thirded
veletron said:
No apps what-so-ever, just a basic, base rom, that includes a folder full of cabs, with a launcher than allows you to select which cabs to install.
Flash the new rom, then manually exec the launcher, put ticks next to the apps you want, networks you want setup etc, then hit the go button and sit back while your device gets only the stuff you actually want installed.
Thats my ideal!
Nigel
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Actually this is a cracking idea!
guru_fordy said:
Actually this is a cracking idea!
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I agree. No panels either. Completely basic.
*I'm still waiting for flah 9-10 support but I doubt that is going to happen anytime soon.
THJahar said:
Seconded! I like to choose!
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I forth....this needs to be done...
who's the top rom specialist... i need some help on a projevt.
i call it...
Operation Panelstine Freedom...
Panels running touch hd
A workin skyfire because we need a full functional webbrowser
ROTFLMAO
harvsingh said:
I forth....this needs to be done...
who's the top rom specialist... i need some help on a projevt.
i call it...
Operation Panelstine Freedom...
Panels running touch hd
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ROTFL! "Panelstine"! MUHAHAHA...
The idea for the basic ROM with separate CAB folder sounds great.
I'm also a big fan of Windows Side Show, if you haven't seen it yet you should definitely sheck it out. It's an app using BlueTooth to control your Vista machine, e.g. Windows Media Player, PowerPoint, Outlook, Facebook, etc. Very cool app I must say, but if the basic ROM will get cooked I can install that again myself.
As well as also liking to choose! I would also like to see Remote Sim Access for connection to certain handsfree car kits...
This notion of installing cabs after the flash is all well and good but they will take up storage space, you can't install them to the rom after the flashing procedure so they need to be built in before the flashing procedure to get them into the rom space, maybe one day there'll be a simple chooser to allow people to build their own roms but it's still a long way off..
There is a system to allow people to install their own cabbed software automatically it's called UC and developed by Sleuth255 there's a config builder for it here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371832
the rom needs to be built as UC compliant to do this but that's not hard.
The Rom has 512mb of space, this can't be used after a rom has been flashed, so unless you fill it with applications it's going to remain empty and be wasted. it shouldn't be used for apps that get updated regularily 'cos that's a pain to overwrite, or commercial apps 'cos that restricts what people can use.
IMHO It's better to have all the essential apps (and things like tf3d) built into the rom and save the 256mb of storage for apps that are updated frequently or commercial stuff.
Hi
I see what you mean, but given that the X1 has loads of storage, I cant see post install of apps being an issue. You would have to install every app on the planet to fill 256MB? Apps that have huge requirements (tom-tom etc) would just use the SD card?
Additionally, this would mean that those apps had an entry in 'remove programs' and thus could be easily upgraded when new ones came out - or removed if no longer required. Also, you would not need to flash a new rom just to get the latest TF3D installed.
Personally, I just don't have the time to re-flash more than once every 6 months - it takes too long to get the device back into a state where its usable again.
I think this convenience is a small price to pay for under utilising the 512MB of ROM.
Nigel
Hi there. I have had my Nexus One for a week now, and so far im finding it ok - I havent really used it much though. Anyway, I have a few basic questions which are really confusing me, but I know could be simply answered by all you Pro's
Anyway, here is what I want to be able to do. What I want to do is be able to make/select my own Icons to open up applications or folders..
1: Have an Icon/picture of a game controller (or something which symbolises gaming) Then when you click on the Icon it opens a folder full of my games.
2: Have an Icon of something which symbolises Pictures. When you click on the Icon it will open up my gallery.
I Currently have Desktop Visualizer. I know with that you can select a picture and then select what you want to open with that. But I dont know how to make it so that it opens a folder when clicking not an application??
Do I need a different application? Also, Do I download the pictures/Icons on my PC then put them over to my SD Card, or just get them straight on my phone?
Last question, If I want to combine two images (Lets say for example two different types of controllers) into the one image, What software on my pc/application on my phone would I need?
Sorry if that doesnt make sense, its as english as I can make it. All help is greatly appreciated
Get Bettercut or FolderOrganizer. Look for them in the market. They will allow you to customize your app's icons and shortcuts. You should read up on how to use it, it's pretty simple so I'm not going to write it here.
The best way is to download and install "icon Packs" apk's (there are so many on here and on the markets, BIG THANKS TO THE MANY CREATIVE PEOPLE OUT THERE.). It works very well with the above apps.
to download pictures/icons on your pc to the sdcard:
1. download ASTRO file manager (free)
2. connect your phone to pc via usb, then turn on connection (make sure you have usb debugging turned on)
3. once you are connected, then your sd card becomes a "removable storage drive" and you can just copy & paste any files from your pc to the card like you would if you had an external drive.
I don't know if you want to use your phone to combine images or pictures. it will be pretty hard with the controls. i would say do it on your pc and then just transfer it over to the phone.
Thank you Thank you Thank you. Using Folder Organiser now and is exactly what I wanted. Thanks heaps for everything