ANYONE CONFIRM THAT THEY HAVE A DIAMOND WORKING ON THE 850 3G BAND FOR ATT?
I have been told that the "DIAM130" diamond will work for the 850 3g att band but I am yet to have anyone confirm this! I really wanna get a diamond but 3g is a must for me, so please let us know ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
Yes, I HAVE MY DIAMOND RUNNING ON 3G ON BOTH AT&T FREQUENCIES, 850 AND 1900. It runs perfect with no issues whatsoever. So Lewi, all you have to do is buy any tri-band or quad-band Diamond and not modify it one bit, it'll work flawlessly in the United States. Go get it buddy, it's yours for the taking!
(note: for any user besides lewi, this will not work. don't waste your money.)
Please spend more time searching and less time double posting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414492
Also, your subject is misleading with the ! instead of ?
These are the answers I give to anyone who wants to post the same question over and over all across the forum. Good luck Lewi!
GEEZ
Thanks you all so much for your kindness, yes I have double posted about this and I continue to get a mixed review. If you would spend more time helping then being a jack [email protected]# then maybe you would not only help me but others as well. For the record here are the replys to my threads:
poedgirl posted: I've got 850MHz on 3G here with the 1.00.25.05 radio ROM which came on my device (works on Telstra NextG here in Australia which is 850MHz HSDPA).
MrCalico posted: just got my Diamond Touch today and it came with the
RADIO: 1.00.25.05
ROM: 1.93.456.2 WWE Dated (7/10/08)
O/S: CE 5.2.19965 (Build 19965.1.2.3)
I'm only getting (E)dge on AT&T
No (G) or (H)
My upgraded TILT/TYN II connects to G3 and H at my location here in Los Angeles.
I hope someone figures out a way to get at least a G3 and 850Mhz radio.
Does it just need to be unlocked ??
I have read the many many threads that have been posted about this topic and like most everyone else I am still on the fence as to if there is indeed a DIAMOND that works for the us 3g 850 band! In the same threads that you guys have blasted for me not reading I have seen that supposly there is a "DIAM130" that gets the 850mhz hsdpa 3g band. I am just trying to get someone to confirm it. I am sorry if I have offended anyone, I am just trying to clarify something not just for me but for everyone else!
I think this statement is not only stupid but rude, as I am just merly trying to clarify something:
Black93300ZX said:
Is this guy serious? Can we just like, vote to ban him now? 2 posts in the Diamond section asking the exact same question, so here's the answer you get.
Yes, I HAVE MY DIAMOND RUNNING ON 3G ON BOTH AT&T FREQUENCIES, 850 AND 1900. It runs perfect with no issues whatsoever. So Lewi, all you have to do is buy any tri-band or quad-band Diamond and not modify it one bit, it'll work flawlessly in the United States. Go get it buddy, it's yours for the taking!
(note: for any user besides lewi, this will not work. don't waste your money.)
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Black93300ZX I AM NOT GOING TO STOOP TO YOUR LEVEL AND DOWN YOU IN ANYWAY, I AM GOING TO PRAY AND ASK GOD TO BLESS YOU!
Remember these threads are here to help others and maybe this will answer the same ? for someone else and save them the HARD ACHE AND BLASTS that they may recieve!
I would like to say thank you to everyone in these forums that continue to help and make this a great place to gather info.
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Also, your subject is misleading with the ! instead of ?
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Lewi, I would reiterate what jomo says here and ask that you please update the title of your thread to include a question mark instead of an exclamation point. I for one know that I opened the thread very excited thinking that I was getting new info on a subject that's been discussed so much for the past few weeks.
Thanks.
You think we are only trying to be obnoxious in our replies. You misunderstand. This thread only serves to FURTHER THE CONFUSION. If everyone would just keep the conversation in the limited number of threads, then there won't be so much mis- or incomplete information.
I posted the links to the other relevant and fully vetted threads. Answering the same questions here will not serve any purpose and increases the chances of conflicting information.
Whether you believe it or not, my direct and abrupt post was meant to improve your chances of getting the right answer.
And yes, for the love of all that is good, you shouldhave at least changed the thread title. Or let's just let this one die and keep the conversation in the other, original threads.
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You think we are only trying to be obnoxious in our replies. You misunderstand. This thread only serves to FURTHER THE CONFUSION. If everyone would just keep the conversation in the limited number of threads, then there won't be so much mis- or incomplete information.
I posted the links to the other relevant and fully vetted threads. Answering the same questions here will not serve any purpose and increases the chances of conflicting information.
Whether you believe it or not, my direct and abrupt post was meant to improve your chances of getting the right answer.
And yes, for the love of all that is good, you shouldhave at least changed the thread title. Or let's just let this one die and keep the conversation in the other, original threads.
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Never mentioned you being obnoxious jomo25, I actually thank you for posting the already posted threads for those who havent read them just wish I would have done it first =o)... I am sorry if i mislead anyone on the title description and I just changed it, apparently alot of people still are like me and really cant wait to have some one verify WE DO HAVE A 850 3g diamond that will work for the US! (Noticed the 168 views already for this tread)
lewi1032 -
Your example of the two posts with contradictory information is a perfect example of why your creation of a new post to discuss an issue already covered in other posts is a problem.
If just ONE post exists and people reply rather than create a new post, contradictions such as you experienced will be apparent and can be rectified. If there are multiple posts, there is a good chance people following only one of the post threads will only see half of the discussion and contradictory information will not be apparent and so not rectified.
This is a problem in this forum since many people are posting in a hurry without searching first to see if their question has already been asked. Continuation of this pattern will diminish the usefulness of this forum, to everyone's detriment. This is a BIG concern for long time posters who are trying to help people like yourself get answers, so as episodes of this behavior increase, their tempers flare.
It is considerate to understand the informal and formal rules of any group of people and abide by them, including a newsgroup, especially if you are asking for something. Not doing so sends the message that you don't care about something they value - don't be surprised if they respond negatively.
You can also try doing resarch outside this forum - for example, if you're interested in finding out about the existance of a US 3G Diamond, you might want to try searching using Google. You might be surprised what you find.
lewi - thanks for asking about this. I have a Diamond with the .05 radio and it is working on EDGE with AT&T for sure. I'd love it to work on 3G! It's not at all clear to me a) whether it would switch to 3G automatically if it could, or b) if it would need some configuration. Moreover, it's not clear to me how one can tell which frequency the radio is currently operating on.
landshark said:
lewi1032 -
Your example of the two posts with contradictory information is a perfect example of why your creation of a new post to discuss an issue already covered in other posts is a problem.
If just ONE post exists and people reply rather than create a new post, contradictions such as you experienced will be apparent and can be rectified. If there are multiple posts, there is a good chance people following only one of the post threads will only see half of the discussion and contradictory information will not be apparent and so not rectified.
This is a problem in this forum since many people are posting in a hurry without searching first to see if their question has already been asked. Continuation of this pattern will diminish the usefulness of this forum, to everyone's detriment. This is a BIG concern for long time posters who are trying to help people like yourself get answers, so as episodes of this behavior increase, their tempers flare.
It is considerate to understand the informal and formal rules of any group of people and abide by them, including a newsgroup, especially if you are asking for something. Not doing so sends the message that you don't care about something they value - don't be surprised if they respond negatively.
You can also try doing resarch outside this forum - for example, if you're interested in finding out about the existance of a US 3G Diamond, you might want to try searching using Google. You might be surprised what you find.
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Thank you for your great post, I have been on google and have done a ton of research outside of these forums, and like i have posted in one of the forums I have not seen anyone saying they have a diamond working here in the us on 3G! It is so hard to go by what "websites" say on the specs because so much of there information is just cut and pasted and usually wrong. For instance COMP USA had on there site where they were selling the diamond that worked for US 3G and they got so many orders and calls on it that they finally relized that they were wrong and it didnt actually work, so they changed it.
here is the link about that http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/...-surfaces-at-compusa-with-quad-band-connecti/
here is a link saying that there isnt any diamond that is compatible with the hspa 850 band at this time:
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/07/25/diamond.gets.gsm.850.edge/
THIS WOULD EXPLAIN THE PEOPLE SAYING THEY ARE ONLY GETTING GSM (EDGE)
but here is also another link saying that the fcc has approved the us 3g band diamond:
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/2...ts-fcc-approval-with-us-3g-hsdpa-support.html
BUT THIS WOULD EXPLAIN THE PEOPLE SAYING THAT THERE IS A 3G BAND DIAMOND "DIAM130"
AS YOU CAN SEE I HAVE DONE ALOT OF SEARCHING AND STILL IT IS HARD TO GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER.
Thanks for all the input from everyone and maybe one day we will get someone to actually post "I HAVE A DIAMOND IN THE US AND ITS WORKING JUST GREAT ON 3G" =o)
Until then I guess I will just have to live without the beautiful VGA screen and make do with my tilt.
Okay, Lewi, you want a PERFECTLY CLEAR CUT AND HONEST ANSWER...
Here we go, it's been said a million times...
THE NEWEST ROM FOR THE DIAMOND...
ENABLES 850MHZ GSM ONLY...
THEREFORE...
YOUR DIAMOND NOW HAS...
850/900/1800/1900 GSM....
900/2100 UMTS...
WHICH WILL NOT WORK ON AT&T'S 3G BANDS OF 850 OR 1900.
Case closed, no matter how many times you ask in this section, the ROM development section, or any other for that matter, this is what is known.
Thank you for your POSITIVE reply =o) So does anyone have any news on this http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29...a-support.html or when it might be available?
lewi1032 said:
Thank you for your POSITIVE reply =o) So does anyone have any news on this http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29...a-support.html or when it might be available?
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Black93300ZX said:
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http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29
RavenGirl said:
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29
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Well THAT'S a disappointment. Just confirmed that no Diamond, unless made for the US, will work with US 3G bands ever. Good luck to those people who bought European versions to have them early.
Howeverrr, if I do recall, I think the Touch Pro has all radios in it... Didn't someone post on here about the project leader for the Diamond saying how they had to remove the US radio to make it so slim? Hmm...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2471618&postcount=54
It seems he's right.
And things just get curiouser and curiouser... Why doesn't the Touch Pro FCC test mention WCDMA? Is it because the ROM is locking it like 850 GSM in the original Diamond, or was it left out of that too?
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http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29
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Well that might be good for some US folks. But doesn't cut it for me. I need tri-band 3G. I travel to Asia way too much to go without 2100 3G. Heck this new phone won't even work in Korea or Japan. Sad how they are taking a step back in functionality here. My current TC works almost everywhere in full 3G glory. No TD will be able to do that. Truly disappointing if true. Between this and the Omnia drama, I might be done with WM.
I just don't understand at all how this phone works on Telstra NextG (850MHz HSPA) with the 1.00.25.05 radio ROM and yet it doesn't work on the US carriers, doesn't make sense to me.
US TD
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=23369
jomo25 said:
Well that might be good for some US folks. But doesn't cut it for me. I need tri-band 3G. I travel to Asia way too much to go without 2100 3G. Heck this new phone won't even work in Korea or Japan. Sad how they are taking a step back in functionality here. My current TC works almost everywhere in full 3G glory. No TD will be able to do that. Truly disappointing if true. Between this and the Omnia drama, I might be done with WM.
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The Touch Pro should work everywhere with 3G... If it still has the radio like we suspect it does.
Is there any way to update the radio on the triband Diamond to get 3G service in the USA?
Thanks for the help!
I think you need to use google
nop
the answer is NO, so if you find something please send me a private message, you can upgrade your RADIO and use the 850 band to transfer voice, but not use the speed provided by the 3G network... some software restriction i think... please write me back if you find something about it
Please respect others' time and effort. Someone asks this EXACT SAME QUESTION at least once a week, and the definitive answer is that the European version of the Diamond (DIAM100) DOES NOT HAVE THE HARDWARE TO TRANSMIT/RECIEVE UMTS (3G data) ON THE 850MZ BAND. IT CAN ONLY TRANSMIT/RECIEVE GSM (voice) ON THE 850MZ BAND.
A NEW version of the Diamond (DIAM110) has been through the FCC that has 850 Mhz UMTS, and that version DOES NOT have 900 Mhz UMTS (the one used in Europe and on the DIAM100).
If you had followed the rules of this forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=429) and were considerate of other people, you would have used search before posting this topic. Please read those rules before posting. As a "senior member" I am surprised you didn't search on this topic before posting this question.
Give me a break!
Blow hard!
HI, i want to know if I can buy the EUROPEAN version and install the radio of the AMERICAN version and it will solve the problem with the 850 hsdpa band?!?! I live in COlombia so i need 3G in 850..
PLease let me know as soon as posible
Actual european version are quad band because there are loaded with a 1.00.25.07 radio so it should be ok
850 not in hsdpa
i have same problem, where can i get the radio version that is mecioned 1.00.25.07??
Why don't you use "search" on the forum ?
i have used SEARCH and i can't find an answer, if you know the answer tell me or send me the link to the thread, ok?
i need to know now because i want to buy a diamond, so i need to know if I can buy the european version and upgrade it or go directly to the american version.. i need hsdpa in 850/1900 I live in America
Mrok said:
i have used SEARCH and i can't find an answer, if you know the answer tell me or send me the link to the thread, ok?
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Calm down buddy! As suggested to you by other members, you can use the "search" function.
Apart from that, there is no definitive answer to your question and there are a lot of other people (including myself) who are looking for that answer. The experts are still trying to figure out if North American 3G can be enabled on the EU version or not. Hold your breath and keep browsing the forums for latest updates.
ok, thanks a lot for your answer, i will be looking around iin the forum
straight to the ROM development forum and you'll see it right away :\
I just bought the European version without knowing and I can't even get EDGE to work and I'm with AT&T. Do I need to upgrade anything for at least EDGE to work?
Nevermind I found the settings for EDGE. Hope theres a fix for the 3G.
maybe flash some radio?
tonyio said:
maybe flash some radio?
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No, it is a hardware issue. Try a search, this has been addressed a lot.
i found specifications that says it is have UMTS 1900 like ATT use...
that's the reason i asked abt it.
thnx
tonyio said:
i found specifications that says it is have UMTS 1900 like ATT use...
that's the reason i asked abt it.
thnx
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Again, a quick search will reveal there are two Blackstones. T8282 which has 900/2100mhz bands, and T8285 which has 1900mhz. bands. So if you have a T8285 it will work for US AT&T.
Problem with my HD...PLEASE HELP
Recently, I flashed a new rom to my HD. It was working fine in the first few days. But now, I cannot make a call or receive a call but it shows I have full signal. I am using radio 1.09.25.14 PLEASE HELP! THANKS
This is stupid. This is why no one should respond to questions that a search could easily answer, all the crazies come out. Never should have responded. Can we close this thread?
Already been covered countless times in General Discussion forum (where this should have been opened in first place). No need to duplicate
Thread closed
p.s. please read and abide by forum rules in future!
Sorry for a new thread as I was following a thread on this topic but I can't find it now. All I find now is a 2000 page thread where people are changing the radios with custom roms but I don't know if that enables the missing frequency for the few of us trying to use dev HTC One on T-mobile. Or if someone has achieved enabling the 1700 AWS band for T-Mobiles HSPA+ (4G).
If this is frequently asked feel free to delete and add to the FAQ thread. And thank you in advance.
Interested in this as well, and willing to be a guinea pig..
im interested as well, anyone h ave any headway on this?
Not happened yet