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Hi all,
Am tearing my hair out trying to figure this one out! I've got:
Windows Media
Coreplayer
GSPlayer
(Flash, not sure if this is needed)
All installed, as I'd like to listen to a radio station stream that I work on/manage the internet stream/technical setup for.
However it just won't connect at all! I have managed to play another shoutcast stream, but still never managed to get this one working.
Can anyone advise on why this could be? The stream in question is:
http://mobile:[email protected]:8000/hartlepool-mp3
Which works fine on all other players on the PC, etc, but cannot seem to figure why its not working on my Kaiser.
Thoughts/things to try, etc please!!
Can't see the link in full to analyse, or click it to open it.
Please repost it, perhaps not as a link but just as text and I'll take a look in the morning.
Cheers,
Joe
Oh strange when I pasted the link it was just a link, must have been the forum software that auto-linked it. Here it is, just cut the spaces out
http :// mobile:user @ arctic.thebmwz3.co.uk:8000/hartlepool-mp3
I've been trying a few other things here, and still cannot seem to figure out what is wrong with the stream/player on my Kaiser.
I've tried changing the stream from mp3 to ogg, same problem, have also set it not to require the username/password authentication, same problem.
Not sure what to try, anyone??
I stream a few stations, here's what I did;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350675
Good Luck.
Thanks for the tips, unfortunately since this is a small UK regional/community station that I operate, it isn't in any public listings, so cannot stream via pages or other links.
The bit i'm struggling with is why the kaiser won't stream the link, as its a fairly standard CBR mp3 streamed from icecast2 at 64kbps/22kHz and I cannot stream either over 3G or wlan when I'm at home, so that negates and proxy or anything like that with my cell provider, so it looks like I'm struggling with some form of incompatibility with my audio applications and the stream that I'm running.
Help! Don't suppose any kind souls out there can try my stream I posted and see if they can play it on their kaiser?
Thanks everyone for your input, its been driving me mad this!!
andyb2000 said:
Help! Don't suppose any kind souls out there can try my stream I posted and see if they can play it on their kaiser?
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I tried the stream as posted, with .mp3 rather than -mp3, and without the mobile:[email protected] both as . and -
It couldn't even find the stream! Kept saying the file (etc, not typing the whole message) could not be found. Tried it on a couple of other streams for local radio I know of in South Wales, and it was fine. Couldn't seem to handle Radio 1 tho, but no loss there...
I have no clue about streams, so can't help with what might be wrong, but least this confirms that a Kaiser and WMP will run streaming internet radio. Maybe there is something on the config that a PPC couldn't handle? Does this stream work for you:
http://gmga.planetwideradio.com/RealWales
Thanks Steve, thats what I was wondering. Yes your link works fine which confirms that the streaming to my WM kaiser is fine, its obviously how I'm handling my own stream.
Interesting that you've tried all the combinations that I did, and with no luck, and yes very strange it doesn't find the feed at all and errors with unknown url, etc, I'm wondering if its somehow because the stream runs on port 8000 instead of 80?
However, in pocket IE, you can get to http://arctic.thebmwz3.co.uk:8000/ which is the admin for my icecast2 server, so PIE does seem to accept the alternative port too.
I'm very confused! I'm going to post to the icecast2 forum to see if there are any answers, but anyone else can give me any pointers too??
Cheers!
Right,
Chatting to the Icecast streaming developers, they suspected the authentication being the problem.
So I disabled authentication and sure enough the stream connected immediately, so I suspect there is a bug in the internet/backend on the WM that doesn't interpret multiple colons correctly, as obviously I had two in the URL, one for the TCP port number to use, and one to separate the username/password.
So think thats the problem.
Mobile YouTube:
http://m.youtube.com
Just upped a video and tried searching on the mobile site. It was searchable and could view it with the HTC Streaming program.
This is why i made this post:
Splitter said:
I get the "can't open URL" error message on my VZN 6800... any thoughts?
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The whole reason for me posting this cab is because youtube changed the way that files are played. So the TCPMP and FLV plugins no longer work.
EDIT: There is a new flashvideobundle released fixing the youtube with tcpmp problem.. The link is below. Includes the right version of TCPMP also..
http://rapidshare.com/files/87069205/TCPMP_and_Video_Bundle.rar
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I can't watch any vids from that site, HTC streaming media says "No network could be found" Tried all my connections in the options tab.
It doesnt matter if I'm connected via 3G or through my local DSL connection via USB, same result.
I'm using HTC streaming media 2.20 (Build 1007.717)
Whats your version SH4YD33?
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Install this version over what you have now. open the options and make sure that the network is set to what you want it to be.
http://rapidshare.com/files/86429318/HTC_Streaming_Media.cab
There you guys go who dont have it.. It also places a Youtube link in the start menu for easy access to the site. Give it a try.
Version: 2.20 Build (518.700)
Here is the article:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,141804/article.html
Edit... Look above
I can't watch any vids from that site, HTC streaming media says "No network could be found" Tried all my connections in the options tab.
It doesnt matter if I'm connected via 3G or through my local DSL connection via USB, same result.
I'm using HTC streaming media 2.20 (Build 1007.717)
Whats your version SH4YD33?
Seems ok for me, it open up stream media player and connecting......, still connecting......, only gprs availble right now, might take a little bit longger time. Looks going to connecting forever!!! No luck!
Could it be that youtube have blocked non-us ip-addresses?
When I click connect it pops up a dialog with a box that has:
rtsp://
In it. I tried putting http://m.youtube.com and rtsp://m.youtube.com - it errors with invalid URL.
Any idea how to proceed?
Found out that some mobile operators doesn't allow direct access to internet, hence rtsp protocol won't work.
However found that tcmp + flashbundle works great.
Note: this is for the non-mobile site, www.youtube.com
Might be a little more bandwith demanding.
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Found out that some mobile operators doesn't allow direct access to internet, hence rtsp protocol won't work.
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Yup, as has also been explained in several of my Mobile YouTube-related articles. Unfortunately, the majority of them use NAT.
rainersnookh said:
Found out that some mobile operators doesn't allow direct access to internet, hence rtsp protocol won't work.
However found that tcmp + flashbundle works great.
Note: this is for the non-mobile site, www.youtube.com
Might be a little more bandwith demanding.
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I get the "can't open URL" error message on my VZN 6800... any thoughts?
Splitter said:
I get the "can't open URL" error message on my VZN 6800... any thoughts?
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The whole reason for me posting this cab is because youtube changed the way that files are played. So the TCPMP and FLV plugins no longer work.
thanks!
Thanks,,, it works great on AT&T
Not sure if this is related, but I have both the flash bundle and the tcpmp installed and I still get an error message when trying to play something on m.youtube.com
error code is 0X8007274D
I tried this both in IE and opera and it's the same. Thanks
did this just recently happen??
i was at the beach with my friend yesterday and she told me to go on youtube to see somthing and the video wouldnt work.
I have a feeling T-mobile Uk block the ports for streaming video. i open the browser fine, go to youtube fine, open the link fine, streaming media opens and tries to connect and i get a network failed mesage. I tried it several times and got the same thing
FlashVideoBundle has been fixed and is on the first post.
youtube
hey guys why i cant stream youtube videos using opera mini,but it works fine with internet explorer,thankx in advance
dolbe said:
I have a feeling T-mobile Uk block the ports for streaming video. i open the browser fine, go to youtube fine, open the link fine, streaming media opens and tries to connect and i get a network failed mesage. I tried it several times and got the same thing
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I am on t mobile too and get the same message (as I do with BBC newsclips). I have yet to have any streaming video at all on my Vario III.
Is there a solution to this problem anyone?
give it a try now thanks for sharing the tips and the s/w
thanks so much SH4YD33 ! finally my tytn II can play youtube video like a champ
princemqh said:
hey guys why i cant stream youtube videos using opera mini,but it works fine with internet explorer,thankx in advance
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I guess it's because Opera Mini re-directs the page to another one which re-processes the page itself so that you can view it on your mobile... Ok, the explanation is not very detailed and professional
Anyway, it works like that.... at least, I read that!
Hi.
After hours of searching and reading here and endless talks with my mobileoperator without any luck, I turn to this fantastic community for your help.
My mobileoperator offers a "newspackage" which includes access to livestreaming of some of their tv programs. These are supposed to be viewed in Streaming Media, but I can't get it to work. I get a "Network cannot be found" error. It works on my Hermes, so I'm wondering if this is due to the lack of videodriver or if it's something else TyTNII related? All I can find here when searching is solutions to YouTube viewing problems.
Does anyone have any ideas or something I can try?
I'm using an original HTC WM 6.0 ROM (5.2.1620 18125.0.4.2) DK-version, but I don't mind to have a WWE version of Streaming Media, if that's gonna fix my problem.
Thank you in advance.
How is the media streamed?
Through RTSP, MMS, HTTP, ASX,...?
Normally this can be seen by checking the 'prefix' of the link or the extension.
I presume you have already tested every possible type of data connection to stream the data? (Wifi, EDGE, UMTS, 3G - whichever is applicable)
Streaming Media not connecting
TorbenKB said:
. . . Streaming Media, but I can't get it to work. I get a "Network cannot be found" error. It works on my Hermes, so I'm wondering if this is due to the lack of videodriver or if it's something else TyTNII related? All I can find here when searching is solutions to YouTube viewing problems. . .
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On AT&T here in USA, I get this error if the hidden proxy is enabled. Don't know if you have a proxy with your carrier - if you do, try disabling it.
Dr. Strangelove said:
How is the media streamed?
Through RTSP, MMS, HTTP, ASX,...?
Normally this can be seen by checking the 'prefix' of the link or the extension.
I presume you have already tested every possible type of data connection to stream the data? (Wifi, EDGE, UMTS, 3G - whichever is applicable)
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Thank you for your reply.
It's streamed through RTSP..
I have tried a lot of different settings and even a few versions of HTC Streaming applications, without luck. When I first had my Hermes it didn't work, but after installing a Dopod 838 ripped Streaming player, I had it running.. Sad thing is, I can't find a similar rip for the Kaiser..
cushcalc said:
On AT&T here in USA, I get this error if the hidden proxy is enabled. Don't know if you have a proxy with your carrier - if you do, try disabling it.
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Thanks for your reply.
No proxy...
I have done a lot of testing myself some time ago because I wanted to stream my own media over Wifi to my Kaiser.
But I never got it to work.
I had 2 RTSP servers running: VLC player and Live555 Media server.
=> Connecting over PC to the RTSP server: no problem
=> Connecting over home network (Wifi) to RTSP server (my PC) with Kaiser: NOT working
I tried the following apps:
Streaming Media app
Windows Media
TCPMP
Coreplayer
RealOne Player
PocketTV
VLC player PocketPC edition (discontinued project)
mPlayer PocketPC release
Absolutely none of these applications worked... Every app produced its own error.
(I switched to Orb but that is not relevant to your problem)
NOTE: Coreplayer v1.2, which will be released later today (21 Feb '08), will support RTSP. This might solve the problem...
Check these threads: http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=717.0
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=717.msg4032#msg4032
Let's hope for the best!
Dr. Strangelove said:
I have done a lot of testing myself some time ago because I wanted to stream my own media over Wifi to my Kaiser.
But I never got it to work.
I had 2 RTSP servers running: VLC player and Live555 Media server.
=> Connecting over PC to the RTSP server: no problem
=> Connecting over home network (Wifi) to RTSP server (my PC) with Kaiser: NOT working
I tried the following apps:
Streaming Media app
Windows Media
TCPMP
Coreplayer
RealOne Player
PocketTV
VLC player PocketPC edition (discontinued project)
mPlayer PocketPC release
Absolutely none of these applications worked... Every app produced its own error.
(I switched to Orb but that is not relevant to your problem)
NOTE: Coreplayer v1.2, which will be released later today (21 Feb '08), will support RTSP. This might solve the problem...
Check these threads: http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=717.0
http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=717.msg4032#msg4032
Let's hope for the best!
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Hi Doc
I'm really happy for your advise. I'll keep my fingers crossed for the new release of Coreplayer, and hope that it will solve my problem.
Thank you, Sir.
Confirmed: CorePlayer 1.2 works with RTSP streaming
Hi Dr. Strangelove.
Thank you again, for your superb answers and possible sollutions to my question. I just downloaded CorePlayer 1.2 and .... tadaaa.... I have streaming video now. It's gonna be a great weekend!
Would MLB.tv work on my mobile phone over HSDPA/3G or EDGE?
Also, would this get past blackout restrictions which are done by ip address?
Thanks for any info
According to a generic non-XDA Google search, it does not appear that MLB.tv will work on the Kaiser. On the PC side, it requires Flash 8 or higher.
However, I did come across a post that uses Slingbox to stream MLB.tv to a Treo over Sprint's network. As long as you're in a good 3G area, that could be a viable option. (Probably won't help with the whole blackout by IP though)
Check it out here: http://forum.treonauts.com/palm-smartphones/treo-700p/3657-mlb-tv.html
Actually, it doesn't require flash player as you can access the "old version of the stream" from MLB.tv page.
I do want a slingbox though!!!
how do I get to the old verison on the mlb.com page?
Does it work with the old version on a PPC?
Does anyone know of a player that plays VC-1 (Windows Media Video 9 Advanced codec). If so I may have a solution for the mlb.tv problem.
is it comeing to android ? i think i read somewhere is was like 2 weeks ago cant remember exactly where is this true?
and is there any tv sreaming apps for android?
Search Marketplace for "Beebplayer"
Works well over WiFi - No download and its not offical.
Has anyone got this working on 3G in the UK? Or anywhere for that matter?
I keep getting "Cannot play this video" which apparently means the carrier does not support iPlayer (?)
Does this mean that T-Mobile UK block the iplayer ports? Could we get this to work with an ssh tunnel or something?
It doesnt seem to be in the market anymore????
Anyone have the apk?
Cheers
estecman said:
It doesnt seem to be in the market anymore????
Anyone have the apk?
Cheers
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It is still in the market, just a bit hard to find. You need to search for 'beebplayer'
Attached the apk (zipped) anyway.
Cheers for the zip!!!
Thats totally weird I did of course carefully search for beebplayer and I never got a hit?!
Anyway I'll try the apk, thanks.
for any who can't get it to work, it needs 1.5 firmware.
This is an impressive implementation, and the only choice to hand, however as the owner of both an iPhone 3g and a white G1 i have to say the the comparison between the two shows up just how much better the iPhone h.264 streams are to the mobile streams used via the mobile iPlayer portals.
It's a shame these streams can't be utilised by the developer, but I imagine the G1 just doesn't have good enough graphics acceleration to cope with it
leoni1980 said:
This is an impressive implementation, and the only choice to hand, however as the owner of both an iPhone 3g and a white G1 i have to say the the comparison between the two shows up just how much better the iPhone h.264 streams are to the mobile streams used via the mobile iPlayer portals.
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Getting the iPhone streams on there was my first choice - in fact all the code to resolve the streams is in beebPlayer but unused. The problem is that the G1 can't play the iPhone streams.
leoni1980 said:
It's a shame these streams can't be utilised by the developer, but I imagine the G1 just doesn't have good enough graphics acceleration to cope with it
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Actually, the G1 is more than powerful enough. The problem is that the iPhone streams are in a .MOV container that the G1 video player can't decode. It's annoying - it's SO close to being MP4 which would be perfect, but of course Apple had to ruin the party!
Does that mean if the streams weren't in a .mov container we'd be able to use the direct iPhone iplayer page using the Steel browser and the iPhone user agent spoof option?
That would be pretty cool.
Impressed as I am with this app the mobile streams are just too poor for me.
Hi DaveJ!
Is there any chance you could put server/port options in beebplayer (or release source code) so that I can play around with getting it to work through a proxy? I'd love to be able to use this app over 3G...
Thanks for making a great app! (and great maps )
leoni1980 said:
Does that mean if the streams weren't in a .mov container we'd be able to use the direct iPhone iplayer page using the Steel browser and the iPhone user agent spoof option?
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Nearly... the next issue there would be to deal with the media player spoofing, as iPlayer checks the HTTP request and expects it to be exactly the same request and behaviour as the QuickTime player on the iPhone, and is actually the trickiest bit to copy.
In Python, this was fairly easy to forge. On Android's Java however, it likes to make forging this very difficult and is what gave me most of my problems when I last tried it.
Billthe4th said:
Is there any chance you could put server/port options in beebplayer (or release source code) so that I can play around with getting it to work through a proxy? I'd love to be able to use this app over 3G...
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This is theoretically possible, but is actually pretty similar to the iPhone media player problem - it would need a custom video player app, rather than the one built-in to Android that beebPlayer currently uses (beebPlayer never touches the video streams itself.)
I'm already toying with the idea of a custom video player which would deal more pleasantly with errors (particularly "Video cannot be played" could use a better description!) but it's not my priority right now unfortunately.
Have you seen the Windows Mobile implementation of iPlayer done by a guy here at XDA-Devs? (It's called myPlayer)
That can use VLC on a desktop PC to re-encode the BBC streams to more suitable sizes for mobile devices, this also gives the option of viewing live tv channels (which the BBC now broadcast online) as the mobile app uses telnet to command VLC to open the BBC stream, convert it on the fly.. then streams it to the phone.
Would be great to have something like that on android, and may help with the quality issue of using mobile streams?
Any chance we can make use of get_iplayer?
i like this app. im only really able to run it over 3g when i use adrenalin
since running JACs hero roms beebplayer is working for me on 3g as well as wifi with t-mobile UK.
I don't know if this is a change in T-mobile's blocks on streaming or because of the hero rom. but shhhhhhh keep it quiet, I don't want TMob to switch it off again...
MyPlayer
Any chance you could get together with the developer of Myplayer for Windows Mobile? I really like Beebplayer, works a treat on my Hero ... but I'd really really like to be able to listen to Radio 5, which Myplayer lets you.
Cheers
what a great (not previously found) app.... thank you.
Been watching the wifi stream over 3G without a problem couldnt ask for anything more.
t-mobile UK
JF ADP1 1.5
great app,
this app is great!, couldnt find it with a search on the market place, if you have trouble, view all applications in the marketplace and keep scrolling till you see it, i couldnt find it with a search for some reason,
this app works like a charm over wifi, really fast and great quality,
i have a g1 and on the network "three". I have no problems with using beebplayer over 3g, the app also tells you the download size just in case your on a limited data plan.
this is a must have application, just wish thier was on for demand 5, and channel 4od.