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need help pickin a new droid

well my g1 is pretty beat and my upgrade is comin up. i need some recomendations on a new phone. im on tmobile and im thinkin about the cliq since its the only one with a key board. i have big boy hands and the screen key board is a hassle everyone i tried at the tmobile store was a pain in the butt to use. is there any upcoming phones i should wait for that have a key board or is the cliq my only option

With Tmo? The Cliq is the only other Droid with a keyboard. The Nexus One (which I've ordered, so I may be biased) has a larger screen and is supposedly easier to type on.
For the record, I also didn't think I'd be interested in anything without a hardware keyboard... but the N1 caught my eye. Time will tell.

The Moto Droid is the best option with a keyboard. Might want to check out the GSM version of it - might work on T-Mobile 3G, but you won't be getting a subsidy contract for it.

I know you want a hard keyboard but... Nexus One.

iPod touch has a 3.5 inch screen, had it for a week and can type as fast as I can on G1 Hard kb
Nexus One has a 3.7 inch screen, just as fast with less mistakes, I bet

Gotta love when people listen, nexus this and that is all people waffle about.
Been looking to upgrade myself but screw the nexus and virual bloody keyboards! I want a keyboard plain and simple!
Google need to quit trying to be a fookin iphone! Looks like me and my G1 will just have to wait and see. There are a shedload of new devices coming with the android operating system so i'd sit back a few months and see what pops up.
Nexus can kiss my shiny white butt cheeks!

Almost pooped myself by thinking really n trying to conect WTF this thread has nething to do with development? Another thread to wreck the f up

BrutalHoe said:
Almost pooped myself by thinking really n trying to conect WTF this thread has nething to do with development? Another thread to wreck the f up
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Well seeing as this is general and not development, need a map and a pair of glasses?

shadowch31 said:
Well seeing as this is general and not development, need a map and a pair of glasses?
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lol
My contract ends the 6th of june, so hopefully there will be a good phone with a hard keyboard out by then. I could probably use a soft one fine but, well, i don't want to Also, nothing about the nexus one really stands out for me. Yeah, sure, spec wise it's amazing, but the android it's running is just too similar to what i'm running on my G1 atm. I want something different tbh!!
I do like the look of the X10 though, shame it doesn't have a keyboard

shadowch31 said:
Well seeing as this is general and not development, need a map and a pair of glasses?
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lol i think he thinks hes cool......
i would choose the nexus myself...

Advice for old Tilt

I've upgraded recently from my old AT&T Tilt to the Motorola Backflip. So I now have an extra WinMo phone (with an old Android ROM on the SD card somewhere) that I no longer have to worry about bricking.
Any advice/opinions on some cool things to do with this phone?

Sell it for cash and take your family out for a nice movie or dinner.

HD2 Envy
Maybe eBay would be good way to sell it.
I'm still on my Tilt. It has served me well. I'm ready to upgrade.
A friend at work has the HD2, and it is great. But, I'm pretty married to the AT&T network, at least for now. And the HD2 unlocked would be expensive to get, and it wouldn't work on 3G
The version coming later in the year for AT&Tm from what I understand will run Winmo7, and I have no interest in a locked OS.
So then maybe Android, but it's not quite there yet for me.
So, hopefully the Tilt will last a while longer for me.

Appreciate the responses. The eBay thing would work if I felt that the phone was in good enough shape to resell. Unfortunately, the keyboard doesn't work well (have to press the buttons just right and sometimes 2x). It's a refurb that was sent to me to replace my original N.I.B. unit and it's never worked as well as the first. So I'm really looking for some kind of fun project to do with it. Whether that means using it as just a PDA with WiFi or installing some flavor of Linux or taking it apart and using the parts for something cool. That sort of thing.
I know there's some pretty crafty people here - bring it on!
P.S. Failed to mention that the phone is jailbroken already. Don't remember which ROM I installed last on it.

I always keep phones and they tend to end up as ornaments so don't think i'm best person to respond but...
Sat Nav\MP3 Player\Retro Arcade Game Player
Or get your head in the kitchen and don't worry about bricking it

hahaha he said jailbroken.

ChumleyEX said:
hahaha he said jailbroken.
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Yeah i chuckled

stylez said:
Or get your head in the kitchen and don't worry about bricking it
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Give it to me so that, I can get into the kitchen and cook without having to worry about bricking my only business tool.

Noob questions Samsung Moment vs Htc Hero

Going to be getting a new phone for my birthday this week. This will be my first ever smart phone. I have sprint and was wondering what the recommended phone was. The Sprint store has both the Hero and the Moment. The only diff. seems to be the full slide keyboard. From a total noob perspective can both be rooted and have hacked apps put on them. I didnt see a guide or section for the Samsung Moment thats why I ask. Anyways any help would be most welcome thanks again in advance for all your help

Wait 3 weeks and get the EVO. If you're impatient, get the Hero. Anything is better than a Samsung.
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Also, please dont ever discuss "hacked" apps here. Its illegal and Xda and the community does not condone "Warez" here.

VinceOB said:
Wait 3 weeks and get the EVO.
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agreed. close the thread end of discussion.
If you can afford the EVO then you should wait. Otherwise, if you really can't put that extra $100 into the EVO then I say the Hero but I am biased. What I feel it really comes down to with these types of phones is what you state... the keyboard. Some people really need a physical keyboard and some don't care. That is the biggest factor in my opinion and one of personal preference.
Just remember you can bring the phone back in 30 days and get a different one if you don't like it.

Get the Hero and you will be able to go for the EVO when it comes out with Sprints 30 trade in policy. This way you can get used to an Android phone to start.

Do you want a keyboard or not??

also you might not want the evo because if you are in a 4g area there is a mandatory $10 a month charge.
Keep that in mind if you are considering that option. Supposedly if you are not in a 4g area then they don't charge you.

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Supposedly if you are not in a 4g area then they don't charge you.
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I was in a corporate store yesterday, asking that very question. I was told you pay the $10 whether or not your area has 4g. On the upside, I did put my name on the waiting list. You better believe I'll be there at 8am on 6/4 to pick mine up!

I went from having a blackberry to the Hero and I definitely miss having a physical keyboard. There are better keyboard apps you can get on the market that work better than the one installed on the Hero. Add a screen protector and it'll help your typing accuracy as well.
But, if you don't mind the bulkiness of the Moment then go with that.
Both phones can be rooted. You can find a lot of info on XDA if you put in some time.
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thanks
I think I will try the Hero out and see if the not having the keyboard will be an issue. if it isnt that bad then with the evo and its larger screen then I think i will def be able to get used to it. the $10 a month isnt that big of a deal if it really is sooo much faster like they claim. I just want to say thanks again to all those who took the time to reply

hero vs moment
the difference is not just the KB..
Moment is Samsung and they do not support the product well once they release the next phone.
It does not have the HTC sense, I really like sense. some say they prefer plain android.
Moment has higher hardware specs, but some say the Hero runs better and more responsive.
Moment does not have the same amount of support from forums like XDA.
also.. I am bais!!!!

Google confirms no Nexus Two=Higher Resale Price for Nexus One?

Sadly, Google CEO Eric Schmidt has confirmed that there wont be a Nexus Two:
http://androinica.com/2010/07/05/go...oming-that-means-a-nexus-two-is-coming-right/
Im actually really disappointed, as I planned on selling my Nexus One to upgrade to the Nexus Two. Then it made me wonder....I wonder now if the resale price on the Nexus One will go higher, as this is the only phone Google had directly manufactured for them?
I managed to get 120 euros for my old G1 when I sold it, and it was a year old (I babied it and kept it in FLAWLESS condition). I paid 370 Euros for my Nexus One (contract free) from someone who had purchased it from Google directly and only had it for a week. I wonder now if when January comes around, if I can get more for it now?
Would you sell your Nexus One later this year if you knew you could get more for it than what you paid? And if you could, do you think its worth it to sell it or hold onto it? Do you think Nexus Ones that came directly from Google vs a carrier will be worth more?
Thoughts?
Discuss

I paid $199 for my AT&T 3G Band Nexus One & Dock... I'm pretty sure I could get back what I paid now, even if they do make a N2

They should release a Nexus 2 but as a limited edition phone...just make like 200K of the handsets...high quality...make a flagship Android phone...it'd go great with the dev and geek community. A Nexus every year.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
They should release a Nexus 2 but as a limited edition phone...just make like 200K of the handsets...high quality...make a flagship Android phone...it'd go great with the dev and geek community. A Nexus every year.
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Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone

Then what will be the next phone to receive updates without carrier consent? Or the next developer phone entirely? Or the next phone with fastboot OEM unlock? There may not be a Nexus two, but there needs to be a equivalent.

My nexus is going in my permanent collection I think. It's too nice of a phone to sell when I'm done with it. Maybe I'll change my mind later, but It's almost like a collectors phone in a way.

Dai323 said:
Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone
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yep...and then it's exclusive status will cause it to sell out faster...maybe the year after they can up it to 500K and soon the Nexus brand will be widely known as quality and exclusivity..."oh you have an iPhone 6? well **BAM** I have a Nexus 3, you were saying?"

You guys are forgetting that Google has never really been about content CREATION. The nexus was some kind of weird test for them and their production/marketing teams. They're much happier (as an organization) to either be a link from others' created content or to provide backend support for others. They don't want to be in the production, direct selling, QA, and support business. This is why you'll probably never see another google phone.

very disappointing, but a pretty cool way of backing off. not like apple where they give you the 3G then the 3GS, hate their upgrades.
i dunno what i'm supposed to get after the N1 grows old someday.
planning on getting another one before the online store closes.

jjss75 said:
very disappointing, but a pretty cool way of backing off. not like apple where they give you the 3G then the 3GS, hate their upgrades.
i dunno what i'm supposed to get after the N1 grows old someday.
planning on getting another one before the online store closes.
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lol, my exact thoughts...I have NO idea what my next phone is gonna be now :-(

they could have at least made a few improvement and release Nexus 2.
all i want is SAMOLED, FM-tuner......and.....thats it i guess.

kolyan said:
they could have at least made a few improvement and release Nexus 2.
all i want is SAMOLED, FM-tuner......and.....thats it i guess.
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dedicated GPU and the newer multitouch sensors....oh I'd like the touch buttons to be either heavily improved or replaced with good quality hard buttons that look like the Legend's

Just bought mine. Don't think I will sell it until a see a dual core gsm phone. But even then the Nexus is just soo nice!

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Just bought mine. Don't think I will sell it until a see a dual core gsm phone. But even then the Nexus is just soo nice!
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That's rumored for this winter: http://androidspin.com/2010/06/24/rumor-dual-core-800mhz-phone-hitting-t-mobile-before-holidays/

im gonna hang on to alexis, my nexus, for a bit and retire it as i did my adp1. i think the htc sidekick looks like a worthy replacement in the specs but if its got a ui over stock android im out. Nothing beats having a unbranded device.

i was really looking forward to nexus successors. As a TMobile customer it was my strongest hope of having high powered stock Android options
But what if gingerbread doesnt eliminate other skins like google hopes it will? These other stupid companies have worked hard to put their stupid skins (other than HTC's Sense obviously) on these otherwise great android phones, maybe they wont want to just drop their development.
Then maybe Google would release a phone to display their own UI like they put out the nexus to set the previous bar...

Dai323 said:
Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone
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Honestly mate, that's what's happened to the iPhone, don't cha think? At least that's how it is in Singapore. Every other schmuck has an iPhone. To think that not too long ago, anything with an "i" as the first letter in its name was something to be proud of. Now it's a phone for the masses.
What I'm trying to say is, I suppose Schmidt had his heart in the right place when he decided to announce that Google's pulled the plug on the project..
However having said that, a "limited edition" every year (to the date, e.g. 5 Jan 2011 for N2) would be wicked

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i was really looking forward to nexus successors. As a TMobile customer it was my strongest hope of having high powered stock Android options
But what if gingerbread doesnt eliminate other skins like google hopes it will? These other stupid companies have worked hard to put their stupid skins (other than HTC's Sense obviously) on these otherwise great android phones, maybe they wont want to just drop their development.
Then maybe Google would release a phone to display their own UI like they put out the nexus to set the previous bar...
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We're all aware of Google's "Do No Evil" motto aren't we? Taking that into consideration I'd say that a more likely route Google may take is to mandate that its partners (Moto, HTC, Acer, etc., ) must, to the best of their abilities, educate their customers on the choices they have (stock vs. something-meatier-on-top [e.g. Sense UI]), and to allow these customers to easily switch between UIs.
Remember how in the earlier builds of HTC's Desire, you could actually "force stop" the Sense UI like any other app? Something like that, just intentional this time

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We're all aware of Google's "Do No Evil" motto aren't we? Taking that into consideration I'd say that a more likely route Google may take is to mandate that its partners (Moto, HTC, Acer, etc., ) must, to the best of their abilities, educate their customers on the choices they have (stock vs. something-meatier-on-top [e.g. Sense UI]), and to allow these customers to easily switch between UIs.
Remember how in the earlier builds of HTC's Desire, you could actually "force stop" the Sense UI like any other app? Something like that, just intentional this time
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yea you could forcestop the sense homescreen, but that's about it...you couldn't do anything about the systemwide integration of sense.
If these OEMs made their skins like home replacements or something and simply disabled stock launcher that'd be great...that way regular joes would use their OS and the more tech savvy people would easily disable the OEM home replacement. Then updates would probably happen faster as well.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
lol, my exact thoughts...I have NO idea what my next phone is gonna be now :-(
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I don't think you need to go looking for a phone as such, I think they find you in a way.....
I went to the shop for my upgrade and saw the G1 for the first time, bang! that was it! that was the handset I wanted.
I then wanted the Hero and I'm now on the Nexus.
Of all the phones out now there is truly not one I want, I'd love a mash up of a couple though! (Samsung S Amoled screen, Desire radio, 8mb camera with Dual flash, HD video, hard buttons...etc).
Basically, until a new hadset comes out, makes me want I don't go looking.

[Q] Is it worth getting a G1??

Hey all,
I'm wanting to get another Android phone as I got rid of my HTC Wildfire. I'm thinking about getting the G1 as its cheap and seems as though it can perform well.
I'm looking at buying one that is locked to T-Mobile and has the newest carrier updates on. My question is can it be unlocked? and does Cyanogen mod perform well?
Thanks!

It would be worth having one now, but getting one from fresh... that would depend on how cheap you can get one and if you think you need a hard-QWERTY. The G1 is quite old... and you may be more content with adding more funds for a G2.

I recently bought a G1 for cheap, and it is great currently have it running gingerbread which works really quite well, a lot more so then i thought cyanogenmon 6 did.
I also believe that they can be unlocked quite easily as well

Thanks for the info

I'm looking at a G1 also, coming from a CDMA Moment with 2.2.2 and looking to switch to GSM. The Moment has a faster processor(?) but is not a very good at some things, like being a phone. Is the G1 a good PHONE? I can get a good ROM for the things I want but does the phone part work well?

G1 okay phone, easy to mod. if you like tinkering.
G1 is an okay phone. My partner at work uses a Blackberry, he can't hear the person at the other end without an ear piece, I don't have that issue on my G1.
I do NOT love my G1, it's bulky/heavy and I don't feel the build quality is as good as some of the other phones. The Speaker is on the back of the phone, opposite from the display - seriously who does that? Samsung for example always puts the speaker above the main screen.
The Keyboard has very small keys but it IS a 5 row keyboard, you can get good with some practice, but some of the newer phones, ex: T-Mobile Sidekick 4G has a keyboard/CPU/display that I almost can't believe how good it is, however they have the dumbest overlay I've ever seen, haha, can't have it all I guess.
The G1 is reliable, it's just not very pretty, if it's cheap, it's a deal.

Hi,
I am contemplating putting my G1 up for sale.
It is the one in my Signature.
Lemme know.
Heeter

If you don't play big games, g1 is enough, however, you cannot buy a new one now.
If I were you, I will buy another new phone.

I suggest a HTC Wildfire at least :/ g1 is maybe just too slow even for normal use if your gonna even get apps :'(

Honestly, no. Get a higher end device and you will be much happier.. I just got a HD2 and it is a huge improvement over the G1, and very worth investing in.
The G1 can't run many of the apps on market because it is too slow, including live wallpapers, angry birds rio, etc..

It depends on how much you can get if for. I got mine for US$50 used a few weeks a go. It's really slow and low on capacity but it's a great entry phone to Android for me. Learned a lot with it. It works great as a phone. And the best part is, if I brick it, I will not feel bad. Just pull the SIM and move to the next cheap phone I can find.
Just saw someone selling one for $30 on craigslist. I would definitely get that one if I haven't got this one.

I completely agree with the above statement ^^

I would love to get an G1 for a nice 2nd/back up phone since my bb 8900 curve have self rebooting problems
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