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Question regarding everyones happiness with the CDMA Hero.

Hi all, Im finally giving up on my old HTC Tilt and want to move to actual android device. Through my work i get amazing discounts from sprint and thats leading me to either get the Moment or Hero, I must admit im scared of ditching the hardware keyboard. I also get ok discounts with verizon and would be able to get the droid for just over $100, versus $30 for the moment or hero. Do you think the droid would be worth the extra 70? Im scared to not have XDA-dev anymore and dont know when rooting would be possible with the droid. any advice would be great. thanks all and sorry if the questions are dumb

The question is how much is the Verizon data plan? NOthing can beat the sprint plan I have( Family Plan).
Droid is the darling now and give it a month, it will be rooted. What would be nice is having the actual correct way to achieve root. There is no way the developer won't let themselves have root.

based on total cost of ownership, sprint is the way to go. the droid is faster, and has android 2.0 but the hero is going to be getting it soon and the moment is getting some type of upgrade as well. in my eyes the droid is comparable to the moment but with a bigger screen, but the moment has a much more crisp display. it is beautiful. my dad has it. i have a hero. ma b im biased but i say hero. lol!

I guess it is difficult to really say since I have and adore the Hero. Frankly, the new droid is too boxy and I like the software keyboard.

i prefer the hero because it has HTC and i love there designs on the software i have the touch vogue now the hero best choice i made

I went from a hardware keyboard on the Q, Mogul, and TP to the Hero. It took me about 30 minutes to get used to the SIP-only input, but I love it.
I guess it helped that I was using a modified SIP on my Mogul and TP, but software keyboard on the Hero is really not bad - I have the spell check and suggestion settings turned on, so even if my chubby fingers hit the wrong part of the screen, 9 times out of 10, it gets fixed before I'm ready for the next word.
My only complaint about the auto-suggest / correct on the Android over WinMo is that WinMo would suggest phrases that you've used in the past, and give preference to common words. Android makes no such distinctions (that I've seen).
If you get good discounts with Sprint, then I'd suggest going that way. Sprint's EVDO is excellent and seems to be getting better all the time. I get 25% off my bills, which makes the already cheaper data plan basically free (not really, but compared to $35 - $50 from other carriers).

with sprint i would get 23% off a month, no activation fee and the hero or moment for 29.99. Its really hard to pass that up for so dang cheap, and my monthly bill would be roughly $24 dollars cheaper then verizon. So the droid would be really costing be $600 more then the hero/moment.

k2rolla503 said:
with sprint i would get 23% off a month, no activation fee and the hero or moment for 29.99. Its really hard to pass that up for so dang cheap, and my monthly bill would be roughly $24 dollars cheaper then verizon. So the droid would be really costing be $600 more then the hero/moment.
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I went from a Samsung Instinct to HTC Hero - night and day difference. My wife is still using her Instinct, says she'll replace it when it breaks. There is so much more you can do with the HTC Hero than a standard phone, plus the widgets just make it awesome. I love the HTC Sense and 7 home screens. Coworkers with their "icon only" iPhones were amazed at how smooth all my screen transitions were. Plus, I've got it fully integrated (like everyone else) with Google contacts/calendar/etc., and Google Voice is awesome.
With the Android OS I don't really think you can go wrong with a phone, there will always be updates so long as the community is around. And by the time the community is dead, you'll probably be able to run a web server off your phone instead of just junking it

My path led me from normal flip phones to the iPhone (my first smartphone), iPhone 3G, Palm Pre (about the time the iPhone 3GS came out and I got sick of paying so much money for a device that didn't let me listen to pandora while doing other things), HTC Hero...and I love the Hero with it's customizability and the bit of multitasking. I love the software keyboard (I got spoiled on the iphone software keyboard and much prefer it to a hardware one) and multitouch support and I am loving the Sprint plan (saved me $20/month from AT&T which is like giving myself a $240/year raise!). And ever since I got into the smartphone market I want and love tethering...I jailbroke all my iphones to get it, I rooted the pre to get it and now I've flashed my hero to MoDaCo to get it. So far, the openness really speaks to the urge to tweak and experiment I have so Android will likely be where I stay for a while.

I'm happy with the phone but not completely satisfied. It has some issues which need to be resolved, particularly the ROM memory leak which occurs using Bluetooth. I can't use bluetooth at ll for now. The calendar issue and the mono headphone issue also needs resolving. I have not had an issue with dust under the screen (knock on wood) but that would definitely be a huge problem if it occurs.
Even with these issues this phone is the best phone I have ever owned. There are phones that are arguably better (iphone 3gs, droid) but imho this phone is the best value for the money by a long shot. I pay about $52 a month after my 25% discount. My plan is better than if I were with Verizon or ATT and paying $$100 or $70. Sprint coverage in my area is superb as well, ATT sucks. I also get to upgrade phones after 1 year at new costumer rates because of premier status so I get to enjoy this phone for now and a year from now I can get a Hero 2, Dragon, Iphone? on Sprint.
Sprint still has it's shortcomings though. I have always dealt with very courteous csr's but internal communication is really an issue with them. They all seem to know something different and particularly getting a targeted update date is impossible. Verizon on the other hand is amazing at this, within one week of the Droid and Eris launch they had many of the issues documented and disseminated the info to it's employees. There was even a "leak" so users have some idea update dates.

Windows 7 update?

Would it be possible to update Imagio to WinMo 7 when it is available?
Thanks,
Mark

No. If I read right the min requirements for 7 Series is a Snapdragon. That's a 1GHz CPU, the Imagio only has a +500MHz CPU. I'm sure once we get an HSPL someone will be more then happy to cook a rom. But It will run like crap, if at all.

no update even the hd2 will not get it

no 6.5 hardware is capable of running 7.

Thanks for all the clarifications. Appreciate that!

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no update even the hd2 will not get it
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LOL The HD2 will get it. That's like the only phone that will.

What really gets my panties in a bunch.... wait... did I just type that out loud? ... is I was assured at the time of purchasing the Imagio that it would most definitely have winmo7 available for it when it was released. It was repeated over and over that winmo6.5 was simply an interim solution until 7 was released. It was THE determining factor for purchasing the Imagio and signing a 2 year contract. As for Microsoft... I'm through with buying any phone containing windows mobile OR phone... Winmo6.5 is the Windows Vista of the PDA.... a complete POS considering it was released to compete against the iphone and the droid.

Thanks, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Man I don't even care about WinMo 7 anymore lol.
Not a fan of the interface.
Do want 6.5.3 though.

I'm looking forward to WinMo7. I just hope that we can get this unlock bull**** taken care of before it comes out - which I'm sure won't be for quite a while yet if I know Microsoft! Yeah, I know that they're saying it'll be out soon, but I seriously doubt it. On the other hand, I love this Imagio so much that I'm not really missing the hard unlock. So, lots to see about....

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What really gets my panties in a bunch.... wait... did I just type that out loud? ... is I was assured at the time of purchasing the Imagio that it would most definitely have winmo7 available for it when it was released. It was repeated over and over that winmo6.5 was simply an interim solution until 7 was released. It was THE determining factor for purchasing the Imagio and signing a 2 year contract. As for Microsoft... I'm through with buying any phone containing windows mobile OR phone... Winmo6.5 is the Windows Vista of the PDA.... a complete POS considering it was released to compete against the iphone and the droid.
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weeelllll.. now hang on a sec. i dont think it was ever designed to be a competitor of iphone, per sey. that said, i think that *every* smartphone/ppc is positioned to compete w/the iphone. as for it not being able to run winmo 7, who cares?? just get another phone once it comes out..u do realize that it's going to be some time before it does finally make it to the hallowed shelves of verizon - i don't care *what* they say. w/verizon and microsoft it's always 'i'll believe it when i see it'. as for droid, haven't seen it yet but am planning to make it into a verizon store this weekend - very much doubt it but that's the plan as of this second!! so stick around m8.. u may be pleasantly surprised..

hdokes said:
What really gets my panties in a bunch.... wait... did I just type that out loud? ... is I was assured at the time of purchasing the Imagio that it would most definitely have winmo7 available for it when it was released. It was repeated over and over that winmo6.5 was simply an interim solution until 7 was released. It was THE determining factor for purchasing the Imagio and signing a 2 year contract. As for Microsoft... I'm through with buying any phone containing windows mobile OR phone... Winmo6.5 is the Windows Vista of the PDA.... a complete POS considering it was released to compete against the iphone and the droid.
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Why would you ever believe a saleperson from any cell provider? Specially on Minmo7. Odds are heavily in favor of you knowing way more than they do, even if you know nothing about nothing.

Most of the dudes that work in the VZW stores are lucky to remember their names.
I did read on a MS blog that WM7 would not be available for the phones that preceded the WM7 phone.

7 wont be on 6.5 phones. no matter what, it isnt happening.
its PHYSICALLY not possible.
hope for 6.5.whatever and be thankful if you get it.

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weeelllll.. now hang on a sec. i dont think it was ever designed to be a competitor of iphone, per sey. that said, i think that *every* smartphone/ppc is positioned to compete w/the iphone. as for it not being able to run winmo 7, who cares?? just get another phone once it comes out..u do realize that it's going to be some time before it does finally make it to the hallowed shelves of verizon - i don't care *what* they say. w/verizon and microsoft it's always 'i'll believe it when i see it'. as for droid, haven't seen it yet but am planning to make it into a verizon store this weekend - very much doubt it but that's the plan as of this second!! so stick around m8.. u may be pleasantly surprised..
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Man! I'm self employed and still don't have the disposable income that a fair amount of people have in these forums. In the current state of the economy who can afford to purchase phones every time a new one comes out? I sure can't.
Regarding Win 6.5.... loaded the most recent update to it and it's made a ton of difference regarding the use of the phone, speed, and the constant lockups I was experiencing prior. At this stage I have settled into the Imagio and have loaded a ton of apps that make it much more convenient in just about every aspect of my day. Figure since Win7 will never be available I'll take the plunge soon and load one of the new roms on it. Also curious to try out the droid OS now available.
Still... while there was a great deal of initial enthusiasm regarding the Imagio... it looks like that enthusiasm has died off really quick which would seem to translate to less being done to continue to enhance the product on all fronts... including here.
Time will tell.

hdokes said:
Man! I'm self employed and still don't have the disposable income that a fair amount of people have in these forums. In the current state of the economy who can afford to purchase phones every time a new one comes out? I sure can't.
Regarding Win 6.5.... loaded the most recent update to it and it's made a ton of difference regarding the use of the phone, speed, and the constant lockups I was experiencing prior. At this stage I have settled into the Imagio and have loaded a ton of apps that make it much more convenient in just about every aspect of my day. Figure since Win7 will never be available I'll take the plunge soon and load one of the new roms on it. Also curious to try out the droid OS now available.
Still... while there was a great deal of initial enthusiasm regarding the Imagio... it looks like that enthusiasm has died off really quick which would seem to translate to less being done to continue to enhance the product on all fronts... including here.
Time will tell.
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Yeah, I hear you. It does get quite expensive. But think of it as a hobby.. That might help justify its cost. Or, stick w/what you have and love it. All these phones have serious sweetness creds. Before I bought the Imagio, I was using a 3 year old Touch. It suited my purposes fine and I bought the Imagio only bc my Touch was all scratched and generally messed up.

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Yeah, I hear you. It does get quite expensive. But think of it as a hobby.. That might help justify its cost. Or, stick w/what you have and love it. All these phones have serious sweetness creds. Before I bought the Imagio, I was using a 3 year old Touch. It suited my purposes fine and I bought the Imagio only bc my Touch was all scratched and generally messed up.
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Oh, and as for WinMo7...meh. But if it really *is* something great and wonderful, that could make a difference for me. But I highly doubt it.

ShakespearesEdge said:
weeelllll.. now hang on a sec. i dont think it was ever designed to be a competitor of iphone, per sey. that said, i think that *every* smartphone/ppc is positioned to compete w/the iphone. as for it not being able to run winmo 7, who cares?? just get another phone once it comes out..u do realize that it's going to be some time before it does finally make it to the hallowed shelves of verizon - i don't care *what* they say. w/verizon and microsoft it's always 'i'll believe it when i see it'. as for droid, haven't seen it yet but am planning to make it into a verizon store this weekend - very much doubt it but that's the plan as of this second!! so stick around m8.. u may be pleasantly surprised..
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well good thing that you doubt it. I tried out the kin two with win mo 7 and i have to say.. it is a huuge adjustment. One thing that bothered me the most... there is no apps for the phone. yea u heard me

I have purchased windows based smartphones since it was the ONLY player in the market with Windows CE 1.0. I have probably purchased 12 to 15 different variations of a windows based smartphone over the last 10 years. I have developed apps left and right for win ce and winmo. The fact that Microsoft has created immediate obsolescence on every winmo 6.5 phone by not allowing forward migration is the final straw for me. Particularly with an OS that effectively will have NO support when it's released for 3rd party apps. I really believe microsoft has lost what ever clout and status they had in the pda market for good. I will NEVER purchase another MS based smartphone again. Bill Gates can sit on them and spin. In the end I have to say that the Imagio, while giving the promise of longevity, expandibility, and all around blissfulness, has turned out to be the worst, bar none, pda purchase I have ever made. And I am still stuck with 14 months left on this *&*^*) assed 2 year verizon contract on it.
Purchased my first Droid the other day. The Droid X. MAN what a beautiful pda! This thing does mega circles around my Imagio and winmo. With the 60,000 plus apps available for it... my ability to build apps around it as well... and the shear elegance of the unit... this may very well be the last pda I ever purchase.
As the Imagio fades into "paper weight" status... Homer Dokes rides off into the sunset with his Droid X at his side.... tomorrow will be a good day!

Wow
You must of had some Really Great phones before the Imagio if that is your worst one ever! What were they?!!! I want to get one!

HTC pushes back Android Eclair update again [link]? Also questions on ROMs! TIA!

http://www.androidspin.com/2010/03/12/android-2-1-for-htc-hero-now-due-in-april/
i'm a n00b to the Android scene and my question is: does this affect the ability to update cooked ROMs here or do people here just work off 2.1 from a different phone... and does that create more hurdles than if the ROM were 'made for Hero' i.e. any unique handset dependencies, etc?
I'm in this dichotomy stage right now where I've read upteen hundred interviews, reviews, posts, comparisons, etc. of HTC Hero and Samsung Moment, and still can't decide, but am leaning to the Hero because of the excellent development that goes on here and because of Sense, even though I'm really yearning for that snappier processor, AMOLED screen, etc., I can't justify it if development is lukewarm compared to here and it seems updated ROMs for Moment are sketchy at best, in terms of getting full functionality out of the handset.
What I don't get is this... you folks here (devs, enthusiasts, etc), are constantly building new roms, but are they derivative of cupcake, or eclair? More so, despite whatever Sprint and HTC do or don't do (as it seems HTC is more concerned w/ the rollout of Desire), can I still get my 2.1 Eclair fix here, albeit original Sense, and is it mostly bug free/usable as a day phone w/o losing any *features* that I would get from a Sprint Stock Cupcake Hero?
I have a half mind to wait for a Sprint Snapdragon but no telling when that will be plus I can get a Hero for $60 now w/ free activation, and a Moment for the missus for $20 more, also no activation. That's a hard deal to beat, imo. But I find it vexing that there might never be an official Eclair update for the Hero, more so the Moment if it's incumbent upon Samsung to deliver as they have a track record of abandoning phones upon delivery.
Thanks in advance a million times for your response!
I have to act quick if I'm to get this deal, but these decisions are killing me.

if you can wait, wait for the supersonic.
otherwise it is really a matter of preference. my brother has the moment. he loves it because of the keyboard. otherwise the processor may be snappier but i can't tell a difference...
he doesn't run any roms, nothing worthwhile out there. And I am running 2.1 already thanks to our great devs.

For me it's really a matter of cost and time. I really need new phones and the time it takes to get a healthy discount on a 2 yr contract could be months from now.
The Processor in the Moment would come in most handy (I would think) in future Android updates; flash if it hits; and certain apps, etc.
But if there's not pushed updates to Moment, then it's totally dependent on the community and i don't think it's as strong as here, or rather it's in a much earlier stage...
I see there are two forums but upon initial investigation, I don't see these ROMS viable as day phones, more for testing and development
http://www.samsungmomentforum.com/rooting/?PHPSESSID=8c9ead9a3ee984137fea7bf4b21ad46d
sdx-developers.com
In any case, I don't want to deviate too far into Moment in a predominantly HTC board, which brings me back to my initial questions regarding how update cycle/process works here. Wondering what base platform devs work from, and if anyone cares about the potential 'official' 2.1 update and whether or not that changes a thing here.
Thanks in advance.

maybe this will help....
Here

hakujin said:
http://www.androidspin.com/2010/03/12/android-2-1-for-htc-hero-now-due-in-april/
i'm a n00b to the Android scene and my question is: does this affect the ability to update cooked ROMs here or do people here just work off 2.1 from a different phone... and does that create more hurdles than if the ROM were 'made for Hero' i.e. any unique handset dependencies, etc?
I'm in this dichotomy stage right now where I've read upteen hundred interviews, reviews, posts, comparisons, etc. of HTC Hero and Samsung Moment, and still can't decide, but am leaning to the Hero because of the excellent development that goes on here and because of Sense, even though I'm really yearning for that snappier processor, AMOLED screen, etc., I can't justify it if development is lukewarm compared to here and it seems updated ROMs for Moment are sketchy at best, in terms of getting full functionality out of the handset.
What I don't get is this... you folks here (devs, enthusiasts, etc), are constantly building new roms, but are they derivative of cupcake, or eclair? More so, despite whatever Sprint and HTC do or don't do (as it seems HTC is more concerned w/ the rollout of Desire), can I still get my 2.1 Eclair fix here, albeit original Sense, and is it mostly bug free/usable as a day phone w/o losing any *features* that I would get from a Sprint Stock Cupcake Hero?
I have a half mind to wait for a Sprint Snapdragon but no telling when that will be plus I can get a Hero for $60 now w/ free activation, and a Moment for the missus for $20 more, also no activation. That's a hard deal to beat, imo. But I find it vexing that there might never be an official Eclair update for the Hero, more so the Moment if it's incumbent upon Samsung to deliver as they have a track record of abandoning phones upon delivery.
Thanks in advance a million times for your response!
I have to act quick if I'm to get this deal, but these decisions are killing me.
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Personally I hated the moment, felt like I was carrying an Abrams Tank in my pocket, and its kind of ugly. But the HUGE issue I had with it was battery life. Litterally only got about 5 hours of LIGHT use. and only about 12 hours IN STAND BY! We had two seperate moments with 4 batteries and the ALL did that. Not to mention the OS feels so heavy on it and it is vanilla as possible. Now given they are supposed to release a "Moment2" that has an ASTC TV Tunner built in, but really? Do you want to carry around an antena and watch OTA TV on a 3inch screen? Come on. Ok, So it has an AMOLED screen and the Hero doesn't...bfd the Resolution is the same, you just have more colors...again do I need to bring up the 3" screen? Your not watching High Def movies on this thing.
When typing the moment can't keep up when you use the on screen key board, you really have to use the hardware keyboard even for short texts.
Onto the Hero:
We have fully working 2.1 Roms now, given they are buggy. Most of these guys will have it figured out in a week or so for a fully functional less buggy than Sprints 2.1 ROM. Personally I am still running 1.5 just because I don't see anything that 2.1 brings me that I can't live with out. And Ill be damned if im using a password to get into my exchange email everytime.

Read the article. I saw two issues.
1 - is Sweden CDMA?
2 - the Swedish release doesn't have to impact ours (US).
But then what do I know.
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A member of Swedroid received a reply from HTC Sweden with another date! They state that the Android 2.1 is expected sometime in April but this release is not set in stone.
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Samsung has great hardware, but they've historically SUCKED at providing firmware upgrades, and are infamous for hacking proprietary, undocumented extensions onto ancient firmware... then refusing to tell anyone how it works. Ask anyone who ever owned one of their Sprint PalmOS phones (SPHi300, SPHi330, SPHi500). The end result (at least with their PalmOS phones) was a phone that couldn't run most new mainstream software (because they were at least a whole version behind), but developers couldn't even write apps that took advantage of the phones' native features because they were all undocumented and incompatible with Palm's own official way of doing it.
Put another way, don't even THINK about buying any Samsung Android phone that's not already rootable and shipping with 2.1, because community-built new releases are the only upgrades they're ever likely to see. The Moment will probably get 2.1 eventually due to pressure from Google, but I really think that will be the Samsung exception rather than its new future policy.

The Cupcake ROMs are very mature and good for essentially bug-free daily use.
The Eclair ROMs are just starting (I mean, the last 2-3 days) to get there. Both of the good ones (Flipz and Danger) are still a bit buggy. Danger appears to be, at the moment, the one farther along (I think Flipz is on vacation) and might just be good enough for daily use. Definitely not quite 100% though, as it's still a Verizon ROM and missing a couple of things like Visual Voicemail.

I came frfom a Moment, let me tell you to each his own. If you prefer a hardware keyboard, and better colors, get the moment.
If you don't mind the virtual keyboard and want to be able to flash 3-4 times a week from development community, get a hero.
The Moment currently ONLY has a cooked kernel to flash that was made by someone who started at samsungmomentforum.com and moved to sdx-developers.com.
With the CL14 kernel update the battery drain issue was solved, after putting on that update I would get a day and a half on my phone with light use, it has vanilla android with no extra interface options, which could be a plus or minus on which way you look at it.
I enjoyed my moment, but was left "wanting more", so I traded it for a TP2, which has a huge development community. The TP2 left me "wanting more" because it couldn't do the things that Android could, so I traded it for a Hero and now I am completely happy.
To each his own, sir..To each his own ;]

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way too be a ****

Sporkman said:
way too be a ****
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Wow. I was going more for pointedly funny than dickish (you'll notice that I took the time to make sure that the results were relevant to his question, as 4 of the top 5 hits are recent 2.1 threads, most -if not all- of which have a description of what is and isn't working in the first post). If I was being dickish I would have just advised him to use the search function as some others are wont to do.
edit: Pardon. 4 of the top 6.

Wait for the Supersonic. Upgrade deals will come and go, that deal doesn't even sound that good to me.... your phone has made it this far, what's a few more months (hopefully... )
You will regret it if you don't once that phone comes out.

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Wow. I was going more for pointedly funny than dickish (you'll notice that I took the time to make sure that the results were relevant to his question, as 4 of the top 5 hits are recent 2.1 threads, most -if not all- of which have a description of what is and isn't working in the first post). If I was being dickish I would have just advised him to use the search function as some others are wont to do.
edit: Pardon. 4 of the top 6.
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Made me laugh... And was helpful! (thanks for making my day)
Go for the Hero.. you will love it!

I love the people that say "wait for the supersonic". They have NO idea when it's coming out. The thing could come out in April, or it could come out in December, or it could come out any month in the middle. There's been no statement saying when the thing's coming out, and your guess is as good as mine (mine happens to be late August or September, to catch the Hero crowd wanting to upgrade).
If you like the phone you have now and want something with a snapdragon processor, then you obviously have to wait. I honestly don't see what difference a faster processor is going to make when it comes to the overall use of the phone. The 2.1 ROM's that are out now are so insanely fast that a faster processor would be overkill for the general use. It would certainly help with some of the processor intensive apps/widgets, but for general functions, I really don't think it'd make a huge difference.

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There's been no statement saying when the thing's coming out, and your guess is as good as mine (mine happens to be late August or September, to catch the Hero crowd wanting to upgrade).
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That is my thought also. And frankly, my fervent prayer. I'm due for upgrade in December, and I'm hoping the Supersonic will be fully rooted and kickin' 3G butt by then, lol!

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I love the people that say "wait for the supersonic". They have NO idea when it's coming out. The thing could come out in April, or it could come out in December, or it could come out any month in the middle. There's been no statement saying when the thing's coming out, and your guess is as good as mine (mine happens to be late August or September, to catch the Hero crowd wanting to upgrade).
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Personally, I signed a new contract when I got my Hero's. So I am stuck for another 2 years or what ever the time period is for an upgrade. I will be drooling over a supersonic, but hopefully by the time mine comes around I'll be able to get one of the dual-core 1.5 ghz snapdragon phones. Hell, I may bite the bullet on one when they do drop one on Sprint instead of waiting. I think I'll skip the current phase of 1 ghz devices though.

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Personally, I signed a new contract when I got my Hero's. So I am stuck for another 2 years or what ever the time period is for an upgrade. I will be drooling over a supersonic, but hopefully by the time mine comes around I'll be able to get one of the dual-core 1.5 ghz snapdragon phones. Hell, I may bite the bullet on one when they do drop one on Sprint instead of waiting. I think I'll skip the current phase of 1 ghz devices though.
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you're not a premium customer (premier customer? I can't remember the specific term)? I thought like 90% of Hero owners ended up in that category, simply due to the price of the plan.
Guess I'm not entirely certain, being that I'm not on a contract, and am eligible for upgrades every year (or so I'm told by my girlfriend lol)

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you're not a premium customer (premier customer? I can't remember the specific term)? I thought like 90% of Hero owners ended up in that category, simply due to the price of the plan.
Guess I'm not entirely certain, being that I'm not on a contract, and am eligible for upgrades every year (or so I'm told by my girlfriend lol)
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Individual plan of 69.99 or more, family plan of 99.99 or more, or someone who has been a customer for 10 or more years.
So, yes..most hero owners should qualify for Sprint Premier, as long as your account is in good standing.

scriz said:
Individual plan of 69.99 or more, family plan of 99.99 or more, or someone who has been a customer for 10 or more years.
So, yes..most hero owners should qualify for Sprint Premier, as long as your account is in good standing.
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Yeah...see I didn't know that.
I'm on the 129.99 Unlimited plan x2 lines. I guess that qualifies me, assuming I don't drink all my money away and can't pay the bill.
I guess I will requalify around the begining of december. Good thing too, cell phones don't usually last me more than 7 months or so. They habitually end up in the toilet.

thank you so much folks! You have a been a world of help in final decision... I too feel the moment is too big, and realize samsung's lackluster handset support in updates over the years... i am definitely getting myself a hero.
funny that one or two of you mentioned battery life. I was reading a very verbose conversation on that on the moment board just yesterday between engineers but thought it was related to cooked roms. this concerns me now as wifey likes the hw keyboard of moment and she's also not a tweaker so cupcake/moment will do her just fine, even if eclair doesn't make it. She simply needs pictures, video, and mobile access to facebook for android and a decent browser as well as gmail, google calendar and such and she's golden; prettiness of gui is not a concern. But this battery problem is in the stock Sprint 1.5 Roms? She would not dig 5 hrs of battery life and I'd therefore have to waste the $35 fee in getting her over to another phone!
Say it ain't so! Does this affect all stock Moments if so?
Also... this Sprint Premier... is the reason for getting it similar to TEP i.e. upgrade options faster? What are the perks and is this a request i need to make?! More details please! I'm coming off 4 years of T-Mobile (although had sprint prior to), and am looking at the $129.99 Everything Messaging (unl. data, text, mms) - 25% monthly corp. discount so ~ $97/mo before taxes when all said and done. I would like to transfer asap as our phones are ancient; plan sucks @ 700 min (although very cheap at ~$52 before taxes/fees after discount); 2 years of contract doesn't bother me so much, but if I see the potential which happens from time to time (ETF change recently) I'll jump at breach of contract and void my contract. However, I don't mind not having a snapdragon at all. It's more important to get TX numbers (for discount and lower taxes/fees) before moving west. Frankly, I've been putting of the upgrade for far too long, invariably waiting for something better, or that next great thing. I was going to go HTC TP2 because of the excellent support from this community in the past, but w/ the announcement of win 7 and tegra and the cost of the tp2 i changed my mind.
Thanks!

How many are sticking with the hero?

Ive seen a ton of threads everywhere and it seems most users and devs are making the move to the almighty EVO. So who plans to stick it out with the hero for awhile? Im more concerned with devs of course.

Just got the hero as a birthday gift in January. I'll be keeping it for at least another year. It's still great, even if the EVO comes out. I do hope some devs stay..

I'm hoping to learn all the stuff involved with Android. It would be kind of a step backwards for me to move to a new phone. Besides I've only had my Hero for a few months anyways.

this would make a great poll........

I had the hero since January, I'll be keeping it for another year as well. My dad will be getting the evo when it comes out.
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Another who just barely got it in January. I paid the out-of-contract fee for the phone, so I have absolutely no intention of upgrading any time soon. The Hero is still a fantastic phone.

I only got mine a few months ago when Verizon (who I had been with for 8 years) would not get me into an Android device for less than $300. I wish I could have waited, but I could not be without Android any longer. As such, I'll be on this handset for a while and even when I move on I can see it being a great little test device.
I use Linux daily and from what I've seen of the ROM breakdowns, the way it's packaged, filesystem layout, etc - I'm definitely going to be tinkering quite a bit. This is a capable handset that has brought me much happiness already. Can't wait to really start cooking.

I thimk I got mine in june. Payed like $500 for it coming from an instint I dropped in a lake
...but im just now unlocking, r I should say the devs here have tripled what I thought this phone was about. Although ill b sad the day I say goodbye to my hero..ill get over it with my Evo! like girlfriends, u always miss them the hour it takes to have a new one..
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The Hero took my virginity. I would never leave it. Like ever.

Thinking of sticking to the hero because I'd like to see more markus posts. I mean, he seems to be a smart spender. Yeah, the evo sucks because he wears footie pajama pants.

I just got mine a couple months ago, so I'll be sticking with it at least until I get another upgrade from Sprint. Can't afford the retail price on smartphones right now.

We got ours in Feb, 2 for $99 and we love love them. mine is rooted, wifes is not, although she did just get the official update to 2.1. So we'll be sticking with these until at least upgrade time...probably longer...

It all depends on a few things. #1 being how fast the EVO gets root, #2 being how good the OC roms turn out for the hero with the new eris kernel. If the hero gets OC'd enough, ill hold out and see how the EVO plays out.

I am sticking with the Hero for a while, contract etc...Plus $10/month extra WTH!??
Also the Evo's form factor seems too large, I loved my Vogue and was hesitant to get the Hero. I keep my phone in my pocket so getting a phone that needs a kick stand is a bit too much for me.
I will ditch the Hero when HTC has a smaller Android model that's same or smaller sized than the Hero.

Damn i should of made this a poll, how can i add one?

I'm sticking with it... can't afford an evo or the extra money each moth for 4g

Sticking with it til at least dec..no upgrade in site.. so i can see paying 450 retail..when my hero does everything i need.. plus i like to take the sit back and wait approach..that way i can watch all the new evo owners complain bout bugs and such..

i dont want to pay for an evo. so im going to stick with my hero and also get a moment to switch every now and then
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I think the majority will keep there hero. Out of the thousands of users in this subforum only a couple hundred may actually fork over the money. I will probably keep mine for a year or more as there will be an even better phone around Christmas.
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Won't bother with upgrading to the evo. Especially when they are already announcing Tegra2 for end of 2010 releases. It will just never end with android as soon as one super phone is announced they already have another in development waiting to destroy it lol

Upgrading to Android phones on SERO! (+$10/month)

Coming October 1st, Sprint is opening up its SERO exclusivity to allow for Android phone upgrades.
The cost for upgrading to a non-4g phone is an additional $10 per month.
The cost for upgrading to a 4g phone is an additional $20 per month ($10 for a "non-WM" phone and $10 for the 4g tax just like the EVO and upcoming Epic).
I just called up Sprint and verified it through the CSR person I spoke to. She said that this information has been given out company-wide recently so everyone should know about it.
Here are some links to check for discussions about this (pulled from SlickDeals).
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1660402-On-October-1st-Android-will-be-available-for-SERO!!!
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=120
Even though I'm afraid that this news is going to scavenge users from our community, I think a lot of people are going to be excited about this. Especially since dzo has said that he's going to be moving on from a Vogue in the near future. *sigh*
I know I'm definitely looking forward to it since I'm dreading the day dzo moves on. Haha!
What about you guys?
I didn't see this in any of the threads, so excuse me if I missed it...

I don't think there was a dedicated thread, but this was discussed a bit in the Wildfire Rom thread.
Anyway, I am definitely looking forward to it. While Android (2.2) is running pretty great on my Vogue, it would be even better to have a native phone with an accelerometer and possibly a slide-out keyboard (I'm unsure if I will get a used Hero or something else at this point.)
I am pretty stingy though, so while I think I could do another $10, I'm not sure about the $20 It would be hard for me to justify increasing my cell phone bill by 66%!

Dassin4 said:
I am pretty stingy though, so while I think I could do another $10, I'm not sure about the $20 It would be hard for me to justify increasing my cell phone bill by 66%!
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Agreed! Haha!

yea, I'm thinking the same thing. And with Sprint's minimal non-4g Android offerings, how many people won't end up with +$20/month

I'll most likely be getting a non 4g one anyway, since no matter what I get, I'll be disassembling and removing the camera because of the rules where I work. I'd much rather do that to a used, older, cheaper phone than a brand new expensive one

Dzo & Myn
Did dzo say what phone he is getting?
What did Myn get?

Dzo & Myn
Did dzo say what phone he is getting?
What did Myn get?

I'm also debating on where I'm going with this. I've used the moment and am not too keen on its keyboard. Also don't really care for the builds over on sdx. Haven't really looked at any of the Hero builds nor used the hero. Really looking closely at the 4g phones as I'd kinda like having a phone that natively ran 2.2 and would be getting gingerbread natively as well (most likely).

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Did dzo say what phone he is getting?
What did Myn get?
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dzo hasn't decided. myn went to the evo i think.

That aren;t really any phones that are coming out that appeal to me. The EVO is too large. One of the best things about the Vogue is that it's tiny. The Epic was the runner up but I don't see any need for a slide out keyboard with Swype installed, and for an extra $20/month I don't know that it will be worth it.
I may hold onto my Vogue until Christmas time to see what else comes out.

Completely official
http://www.mydollarplan.com/sprint-sero-premium-upgrade-coming-soon/

tablo said:
That aren;t really any phones that are coming out that appeal to me. The EVO is too large. One of the best things about the Vogue is that it's tiny. The Epic was the runner up but I don't see any need for a slide out keyboard with Swype installed, and for an extra $20/month I don't know that it will be worth it.
I may hold onto my Vogue until Christmas time to see what else comes out.
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Yea, I wish Sprint had some better Android phones. The Incredible is basically what I'd like. It has all the rights specs without the 4g tax on it.

anyone making the jump? if so, what phone/plan?

done! game over!

congratssssss