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All,
Just thought i'd let you know the benchmarks I got from the exisiting 2gb card and a new 16gb card I've bought.
The card I've bought is the new Sandisk Class 4 Ultra micro sdhc which cost me £50 from Amazon.co.uk. I was a bit sceptical at first as the 2gb seemed quite fast so wondered what class it was as it doesn't say and I didn't want the new card to be slower. But I went ahead and bought it anyway as i needed the space.
Both cards are formatted to fat32 with 4096 of allocation
So, CrystalDiskMark benchmarks...
100mb file, 3 passes...
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100mb file Sandisk 2gb Sandisk 16gb
Read Write Read Write
Sequential 10.67 6.639 19.93 16.57
Random Write 512k 10.55 1.261 19.52 2.634
Random Write 4k 2.822 0.010 3.984 0.026
Speeds are in MB/s
Quite a bit faster than I was expecting, so quite happy about this. I know there will be some hardware limitations in the phone so it can only read / write at certain speeds, but for taking pictures, it can save the images quicker and thats a plus for me. Plus the reading of data in music player etc...
Hope it helps some people
nicelad_uk said:
All,
Just thought i'd let you know the benchmarks I got from the exisiting 2gb card and a new 16gb card I've bought.
The card I've bought is the new Sandisk Class 4 Ultra micro sdhc which cost me £50 from Amazon.co.uk. I was a bit sceptical at first as the 2gb seemed quite fast so wondered what class it was as it doesn't say and I didn't want the new card to be slower. But I went ahead and bought it anyway as i needed the space.
Both cards are formatted to fat32 with 4096 of allocation
So, CrystalDiskMark benchmarks...
100mb file, 3 passes...
Code:
100mb file Sandisk 2gb Sandisk 16gb
Read Write Read Write
Sequential 10.67 6.639 19.93 16.57
Random Write 512k 10.55 1.261 19.52 2.634
Random Write 4k 2.822 0.010 3.984 0.026
Speeds are in MB/s
Quite a bit faster than I was expecting, so quite happy about this. I know there will be some hardware limitations in the phone so it can only read / write at certain speeds, but for taking pictures, it can save the images quicker and thats a plus for me. Plus the reading of data in music player etc...
Hope it helps some people
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quite an impressive hike in write speeds.
I did wonder about the transcend class 6 they have for £55 but then I realised it said 2-3 months expected delivery !
In the end I bought the PNY 16gb card from play for £26 it's supposed to be a class 4 I'll benchmark it when it arrives.
quite impressive
congrats mate for the new card
However, i guess it makes more sense if the larger card volume was a bit slower!
Anywayz, doesnt the bigger card have any negative effect on the battery in terms of consuming more power to mount the storage volume?
Interesting - I have a 16Gb Class 6 on it's way - should be here next week. I'll try and run the benchmarks for it and see if there is much difference.
would be nice if someone could try the class 2 sandisk 16 gb
how did you do the benchmark?
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quite an impressive hike in write speeds.
I did wonder about the transcend class 6 they have for £55 but then I realised it said 2-3 months expected delivery !
In the end I bought the PNY 16gb card from play for £26 it's supposed to be a class 4 I'll benchmark it when it arrives.
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PNY card class 4 - where from?
I too have a class 6 16GB card on it's way and I will post my bench's as soon as it gets...
I won't buy a higher one than my 8GB one till a 32GB is released -.-
gavinfabl said:
PNY card class 4 - where from?
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PLAY..
play.com here > >http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/11540450/PNY-16GB-Micro-SDHC-Memory-Card/Product.html
the article says class 2, the review says class 4. One of my friends bought one, his is class 4.
Obviously I won't know till mine arrives !
the PNY site isn't much help
http://www.pny.eu/products.php?section=product&categoryid=4&subcategoryid=54&productid=296
Sandisk 8gb class 4 test results (similar to the 16gb class 4)-
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CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (C) 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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Sequential Read : 20.268 MB/s
Sequential Write : 16.100 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 19.866 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 3.009 MB/s
Random Read 4KB : 4.124 MB/s
Random Write 4KB : 0.028 MB/s
Test Size : 100 MB
an idea for you all..... check your local cash converter/pawn shop. i found a lot of micro sdhc card in there.
got my self a samsung 8GB class 6 for 12.00 pounds ! (with 1 year warranty)
they also had a 16gb class 2 for 22 pounds.
Two more cards
I was using the Sandisk USB to MicroSD adapter that ships with Sandisk cards.
I get the feeling that this is limiting the benchmark results
I get
Sandisk 8Gb Class 4
Read Write
SEQ: 19.69 13.19
512k: 19.26 2.337
4k: 3.601 0.021
Kingston 16Gb Class 2
Read Write
SEQ: 19.61 6.729
512k: 19.39 1.091
4k: 3.567 0.024
Sorry guys, but I don't get it. If you buy a card to use it with your Leo these tests are pretty irrelevant. I tested myself several cards, 2GB, 4GB and 16GB, class 2 and 4, both in my PC using ATTO benchmark and in my Leo. I came to the conclusion that a class 2 micro SD card is plenty fast enough when reading/writing with the Leo, so what is the point of spending a little fortune on class 6 cards? The Leo is no high-end DSLR you know...
Using happily a 16GB Sandisk that I purchased in my local PC shop for about 35 Euros. The Leo peaks at 5.2/8.6 MB/s write/read with this card. It did exactly the same with a class 4 4GB Toshiba card and a 2GB class 4 Kingston card. Tested using ATTO Disk Benchmark v. 234 on a core i7 system running Windows 7 64 bit OS.
In my view, the ATTO benchmark is reat because it gives you a speed snapshot at different file sizes, not just the peaks. I wonder what file size is used when manufacturers clasify their cards. Let me tell you, when transfering files smaller that 1 KB, they're all bloody snails, from class 2 to class 12!
atomic_dude said:
Let me tell you, when transfering files smaller that 1 KB, they're all bloody snails, from class 2 to class 12!
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I hear that, took ages to delete Igo8 off the SD card with all those small files
I prefer the faster cards, say class 4 or even a class 2 if it can perform like this current class 4 because I don't just use it in my phone. I use the card reader and transfer music / videos / pictures etc and with the clip battery cover, it only takes a minute to hot swap.
I know what you mean though, the phone does have limitations which make the cards only work to a certain speed, thats the same in most devices.
All in all though, nice to get some comparisons on here for people who want to know before they buy
16gb card came from play today.
It is class 2, clearly marked as such, so either they are sending out from different sources or something is up.
Either way it's a pretty quick card, I'll benchmark it later on
I was waiting for a 32gb card to be released but that doesn't look like it is going to happen any time soon...
So I am buying a 16gb card. I am going to be using the card in my phone only. Out of these 2 cards which would recommend -
16gb Kingston class 4 or a 16gb Peak class 6 (for a couple of pounds extra)
Part of me wants to go for the class 6 for the speed (but will I really notice it in a phone?) but on the other hand Kingston is a well known brand and I have never heard of Peak.
Thanks
What would you say is the minimum class that i could get a decent experience when playing music/movies and launching apps?
A class 2 card would do the job nicely.
Thanks, will probs get a class 2 16GB one
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16gb card came from play today.
It is class 2, clearly marked as such, so either they are sending out from different sources or something is up.
Either way it's a pretty quick card, I'll benchmark it later on
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Took your advice and bought the 16gb one you recommended from play too in the hope it was Class4. No idea what Class it actually is but its definately quicker than the previous 2Gb, and 8Gb cards I had in it! - I can tell cus when I wizz through the photos in landscape mode they appear almost instantly whereas the other cards took time to load them up. or maybe thats cus of this new ROM - I'm not sure.....hmmm....
Hi!
First, what is class 2 and class 6? Which is the best 2 or 6 in this case?
And which one of these two is the best:
Nokia MU 43 8 Gb MicroSDHC-11
or
Transcend microSDHC 8GB (Class 2) (TS8GUSDHC2)
- Class 2 specifikation - Support för Error Correcting Code (ECC)
Class mainly refers to read/write speed of the SD Card, the better the class the faster will be the data transfer speed but be careful with class 6 or class 8 cards on higher end memory like 8GB, 16GB or 32GB that has more tendency to give error. Class 4 is your best bet.
yusufjee said:
Class mainly refers to read/write speed of the SD Card, the better the class the faster will be the data transfer speed but be careful with class 6 or class 8 cards on higher end memory like 8GB, 16GB or 32GB that has more tendency to give error. Class 4 is your best bet.
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Hi! And thanks!
I did go with the:
Kingston Micro SDHC Kort (TransFlash) - 8GB...
Kingston kort (TransFlash) - 8GB Class 4 - inkl. adapter. - SDHC kompatibel - Read-/write hastighet 58x (8,8 MB / s) / 45X (6,5 MB / s)
Hope this is better than the one i had, did not know about classes at all.
if you are installing and running thing of the SD always go for the higher class card.
I have a class 6, 16GB SanDisk which I have had since they
were first available.
I have had no problems with it from day 1.
tkalli said:
I have a class 6, 16GB SanDisk which I have had since they
were first available.
I have had no problems with it from day 1.
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I cannot find a 16gb sandisk class 6 anywhere. I can't even find a class 6 microsd sandisk period. Where did you find it?
jas0nw0ng said:
I cannot find a 16gb sandisk class 6 anywhere. I can't even find a class 6 microsd sandisk period. Where did you find it?
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Sorry, it is a Transcend 16GB Class 6.
The Sandisk 16GB in other phone is a class 2.
I just bought a kingston 32gb class 6 micro sdhc but when ever i put it in my hd2 it just freezes up and as soon as I remove the card it works fine again.At first i though that it was a fake so I:
1)performed multiple tests,
2)reformated a 1000 times,
3)even putting 20gb of data just to make sure.
Turns out that it is authentic and it works perfectly on my girlfriend's htc BalckStone it also worked when I installed NAND (which i later removed due to insufficient memory).Ive been searching for days, I think its a windows mobile issue, any tips??
you formatted it 1000 times ?
btw i use a class 4 8gb and no problem except it sometime cannot boot android, i dunno if its the sd problem or android problem
Hi al,
Does anyone know whether the Samsung Galaxy S (I9000) would actually profit from a Class 10 microSD? Can it utilize the read/write speed of these microSD's?
If not, what is the max. class which the Galaxy S would actually use to its fullest?
Greetings,
Evert
of course it will
this is one of the fatest phone ever
if you have an External class 4 vs another External class 6 card inside this phone then you copy stuff with Astro File inside the phone you'll notice the difference in speed
and then if you compare the class 6 vs a class 10 external you'll see even more difference
this will be very important when Froyo comes out and we can finally use App2SD, as the apps will write and load faster to & from the SD on a class 10 than a class 6 or 4
don't even bother with a class 2 it'll be painful slow
and that comes by experience running apps on SD on all my previous phones
AllGamer said:
of course it will
this is one of the fatest phone ever
if you have an External class 4 vs another External class 6 card inside this phone then you copy stuff with Astro File inside the phone you'll notice the difference in speed
and then if you compare the class 6 vs a class 10 external you'll see even more difference
this will be very important when Froyo comes out and we can finally use App2SD, as the apps will write and load faster to & from the SD on a class 10 than a class 6 or 4
don't even bother with a class 2 it'll be painful slow
and that comes by experience running apps on SD on all my previous phones
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What?
Are you basing this on a test, or are you just assuming that the class 10 microSD is theoretically faster then class 6 ?
Biased on that tech specification your making an assumption that we should get this class 10?
The question is weather or not the SGS Vibrant Bus and Data lines can transfer speeds of 80Mbits/s through the MicroSD card slot??
* Class 2: 16 Mbit/s (2 MB/s)
* Class 4: 32 Mbit/s (4 MB/s)
* Class 6: 48 Mbit/s (6 MB/s)
* Class 10: 80 Mbit/s (10 MB/s)
I would say lets buy them and test it out.
I just had 6MBs towards my internal and 5MBs towards my external sd card at the same time trough the usb connector while the sd is a class 2 =p
The sgs would stil benefit from a class 10 i bet
I have just placed an order for a Kingston SDC10/16GB.
What would be an accurate way to measure read/write speed once this card is in my phone? Simply hook it up to PC and pump a large file to it, and see what the speed/bandwidth is?
when performing test, you will always get the fastest speed when the disk is new (empty)
so the proper way to test for performance speed, is to fill the SD card 50% with random files or random sizes, then do a speed test
that will show the true performance of the sd card
you can try these 3
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sdcardbenchmark/com.p8h.sdcardbenchmark
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sd-card-speed-tester/br.com.fast4ward.sdcardspeedtester
http://www.appbrain.com/app/disk-benchmark-free/com.j.diskbenchmark
Very interested in the results myself! Please do let us know how it goes evert!
Any results ?
I'll check them out. Problem is that most seem to test /sdcard, which is the internal SD, and not [correct folder for external SD]...
i also just wondering if class 10 would make any different in data transfer as rite now i'm using class between class 2 and class 6 for 3 of my 5300 (2) i9000 (4) and n7000 (6)..
any result on the test that you have made? thanks!
I use a transcend 16gb class 10 micro sd and i get a write speed of around 14mbps... on other cards i get 5 or 6mbps...
vigneshnallamad said:
I use a transcend 16gb class 10 micro sd and i get a write speed of around 14mbps... on other cards i get 5 or 6mbps...
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Thanks for the info! Sure feel more confident to get one of these!! Thanks again (and yes i've click the thanks button!) Hehe!!
Regards!
For what it's worth, my speeds are as follows:
Internal: 7mb/s write and 15mb/s read
External: 15mb/s write and 30mb/s read
External is a Transcend class 10 16gb card, almost full and 1yo
Very happy with it
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So where are the good deals on MicroSD cards? I'm interested in at least Class4. What are you using with your GTabs?
I was wanting to hold out for a class 4 or better 32gb, but I don't think the included 16gb is going to last me much longer on it's own.
I have a class 6 8gb transcend card for backup that seems to read and write very well on the tab.
I usually just use google search and click on shopping to find good prices since they change constantly.
Thanks for the advice, I did see that shopping.google.com was probably the best way to find good deals.
Does anyone have any experience using a class 10 microSD in their GTab?
What are the differences between 4,6,8,10 sd class cards
haythams said:
What are the differences between 4,6,8,10 sd class cards
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Speeds
Speed Class Rating
The Speed Class Rating is the official unit of speed measurement for SD Cards, defined by the SD Association. The Class number represents a multiple of 8 Mbit/s (1 MB/s), and it measures the minimum sustained write speeds for a card in a fragmented state.[11]
The following are the ratings of some currently available cards:[11]
Class 0 - These cards do not specify performance, which includes all legacy cards prior to class specifications.
Class 2 - Minimum of 2 MB/s performance. Lowest speed for SDHC cards.
Class 4 - Minimum of 4 MB/s performance.
Class 6 - Minimum of 6 MB/s performance.
Class 10 - Minimum of 10 MB/s performance.
Keep in mind that the class is based off WRITE speeds. I have a class 10 in my Vibrant, but only a class 2 in my Tab. That is because I tend to change what I carry on my phone more often than my tablet and thus it is noticeable. But if you are just going to load up 4 gigs of music and 8 gigs of movies and never change it, go with a cheap card.
Shane_pcs said:
Keep in mind that the class is based off WRITE speeds. I have a class 10 in my Vibrant, but only a class 2 in my Tab. That is because I tend to change what I carry on my phone more often than my tablet and thus it is noticeable. But if you are just going to load up 4 gigs of music and 8 gigs of movies and never change it, go with a cheap card.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208475
I just ordered a 16GB class 6 for my Tablet. I'll probably be swapping out movies on a semi-regular basis, so didn't want to get just a class2.
Got a class 4 32GB from NewEgg. Works quite well and exceeds the rated transfer speed most of the time.
I'm using the Sandisk Class 2 32GB card and it's great. Sandisk cards always perform better at read & write speeds than the stated.
You're not going to notice any difference in speed..... not until you connect to a PC that is the only time when you will find a Class 2 is slower than a Class 6.
Using a class 2 16gb and seems to working fine
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I bought 8G (Class 10) memory card. but i don't think my phone(x8) support it?
in all of tests, My phone shows has class 4. Is it correct?
did you buy the card from Ebay or is it from a reputable source? Eg are you sure the card is a genuine class 10?
Swyped from HTC Desire S using XDA Premium
I don't know, how can i understand it is original?
insert your card into cardreader and record big file, and check record speed.
Have a look at the sdcard.
The most of the sdcards have a little number in a circle on it, and that´s the class of the sdcard.
So, if you can find a "10" in a circle on your card, it´s class ten.
if you have another number in a circle on it, then it´s not class 10
It may be a hardware problem, but testing the speed on a pc would be taking you out from the doubt.
I'm using a class 10 8gb Kingston microSD. No problem at all.
However, I experienced heavy writing problems with class 4 8gb Kingston. This was the reason why I had to resell this card, only to check with my own eyes the problem was on the x8 and not in the class 4 microSD.
I tested my 8G-Class 10 microSD with Ram Reader,
File: 699 Mb
write: 90 s ----- 7.8 Mb/s
Read: 65 s ----- 10.75 Mb/s
File: 398 Mb
write: 50 s ---- 8 Mb/s
Read: 20 s ---- 19.9 Mb/s
How do you think a bout my class of microSD?
Its class 8
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kingstone products have a lot of compatibility problems, i know they're popular but they suck.
I'm using an SDHC A-Data 8 Gb class 10 and works great.
cdanisor said:
kingstone products have a lot of compatibility problems, i know they're popular but they suck.
I'm using an SDHC A-Data 8 Gb class 10 and works great.
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and become a faster relno from this phone?
XperianPro said:
Its class 8
Sent from my X8 using XDA Premium App
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Those results mean nothing, there are lots of things that can influenciate speed. Also, the cards' speed is tested on factory with a special machine, not a computer, so real world speeds are always a bit slower. If the card was a fake i think it would be getting far worst performance.
Test it on a desktop pc (rear ports) using a decent card reader.
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I have a kingmax class 10 8GB.
In pc, i can reach around 14.x mb/s.
In phone, fastest is 8mb/s, but in average 6mb/s+.
molimo said:
I bought 8G (Class 10) memory card. but i don't think my phone(x8) support it?
in all of tests, My phone shows has class 4. Is it correct?
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Friends
At last, I tested my microSD (class 10) in Galaxy S I9003 with "SD Tools v2.1" & "SD Card speed test v1.9" applications, They show that the class of my microSD is 10, then tested again in x8 and show class4 or class6.
conclusion: Our x8 can't support class 10. it support class up to 6.
It's true that the sd card interface of the X8 can have a limit below class 10, but remember that there are always factors that can limit the speed.. Partition type, allocation unit size, ROM, kernel.. But yeah, i won't be surprised if it had a limit of roughly 6MB/s..and it's not that bad
Class 10 is very smooth for ungaze...
I test my 16GB V-Gen class 10 memory card with sd tools and the result:
read speed : 14,4 mbps
write speed : 8,2 mbps
i use 32k allocation unit size when formatting through computer,,
i have 8GB AData class 10 and work fast and smooth
Read 20 mb/s
Write 12 mb/s and some time more
can someone confirm if X8/W8 can benefit class 10? cause I have here class 6 offered by a friend for a very cheap price cause it is second hand
amnher said:
can someone confirm if X8/W8 can benefit class 10? cause I have here class 6 offered by a friend for a very cheap price cause it is second hand
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i can confirm, because i use it.. i have AData 8GB class 10 card.
Cacobronx said:
i can confirm, because i use it.. i have AData 8GB class 10 card.
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but compared to class 6? is it really big?