Hello,
Lurked around here for a while, first time poster. When I am in Hartford, WI the stock Time/Weather widget shows me as being in Hartford, CT, with an incorrect time due to different time zone. Is there a way to correct this short of not using "current location". Thanks for the help.
Mike
Bump...Anyone have any idea?
Thanks,
Mike
crazymike1234 said:
Bump...Anyone have any idea?
Thanks,
Mike
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By chance are you using the Airave?
I know Phoenix had this issue. Maybe the cell tower did not update the DST Daylight Savings Time????
I do have an airave at my house, however I do not live in Hartford, this is just when I go there. My dad also has a hero and he lives in Hartford. His time is off same but he doesn't have an airave.
Thanks,
Mike
crazymike1234 said:
I do have an airave at my house, however I do not live in Hartford, this is just when I go there. My dad also has a hero and he lives in Hartford. His time is off same but he doesn't have an airave.
Thanks,
Mike
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Oh it maybe the towers then. Mine does that when I go to Peoria. Suggest Sprint to fix or I just suggest using a fixed location
Both of our heros have this problem. Not a whole timezone off, but mine regularly shows me in a town on the other side of the state (about 150 miles away). It is consistent, though, it always picks the *same* wrong town....
It's happened to me with my phone on every single rom I've used (most of them) and it also happens on my wife's phone which is still 100% stock.
I haven't dug into it very deeply, but it seems to only be an issue when the phone is relying on network based location. If I go outside and get a good gps lock, it's fine again.
dwertz said:
Yeah but the Airave communication could come from Hartford and your aGPS could be getting it from that, thus showing you are located there when technically not. Mine does that, when I am at home in Airave distance it shows me as a different city 30 miles south of me.
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I am not sure you understand me correctly. If I drive to Hartford, WI it says on the widget I am in Hartford (does not show the state) and the time is 1 hour off (as if it thinks I am in Hartford, CT rather than WI). When I drive back to my house it has the correct city and time.
Thanks for continuing to try and help me!
Mike
crazymike1234 said:
I am not sure you understand me correctly. If I drive to Hartford, WI it says on the widget I am in Hartford (does not show the state) and the time is 1 hour off (as if it thinks I am in Hartford, CT rather than WI). When I drive back to my house it has the correct city and time.
Thanks for continuing to try and help me!
Mike
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Sorry I jumped the gun on the previous one and corrected too late. I think its the towers. Some of the towers may not have been reset for the Daylight Savings Time. As I said I go to Peoria, same state, different city and the time will change, weird thing for me is there is no DST so not sure why Peoria is off but that is the issue I had before which they patched.
Only think I could suggest is calling Sprint. If both yours and your dads are off I am sure anyone that has a hero that looks up the location to set time and weather will be off. This information comes from the towers. They had a big issue with it in Arizona and had to send out a OTA. At the time I just set fixed location. Also if you are unsure if you think its Hartford CT vs WI, compare by the weather.
crazymike1234 said:
I am not sure you understand me correctly. If I drive to Hartford, WI it says on the widget I am in Hartford (does not show the state) and the time is 1 hour off (as if it thinks I am in Hartford, CT rather than WI). When I drive back to my house it has the correct city and time.
Thanks for continuing to try and help me!
Mike
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As a test, can you go into settings and tell it not to use network location, and only gps? Mine can still get a usable gps lock inside the house as long as I'm reasonably close to a window.
It's not really a "solution", but it might help pin down the problem.
(I'm strongly suspecting that the problem is not with the phone, but with Sprint having some bad entries in their database of tower locations....)
subliminalurge said:
As a test, can you go into settings and tell it not to use network location, and only gps? Mine can still get a usable gps lock inside the house as long as I'm reasonably close to a window.
It's not really a "solution", but it might help pin down the problem.
(I'm strongly suspecting that the problem is not with the phone, but with Sprint having some bad entries in their database of tower locations....)
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I think it still uses aGPS (assisted GPS, cell phone towers) if you turn location based GPS satellites off.
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I think it still uses aGPS (assisted GPS, cell phone towers) if you turn location based GPS satellites off.
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Hmm... Could be.
In fact, I think you're right. It still gives me a wrong location even when I tell it to use only gps if I go down to the basement or anywhere else where it's completely shielded from getting a "real" gps lock.
Still, the only completely reliable way I've personally found of getting the location to show correctly is to tell it to use only gps and give it some sort of reasonable view of the sky. Setting it near a window seems to be good enough most of the time, although it's slower that way than actually taking it outside.
I keep having a similar issue and still haven't managed to figure out a solid solution. My phone keeps telling me I'm in Albania, even though I'm in Indiana. The only thing I've been able to do to correct it temporarily is to go into Date/Time and uncheck/recheck "Use Network Time," and the problem is usually fixed within about 10 seconds. It goes on normally for a few days, and then I wake up with my phone thinking it's in Albania again.
I keep having a similar issue and still haven't managed to figure out a solid solution. My phone keeps telling me I'm in Albania, even though I'm in Indiana. The only thing I've been able to do to correct it temporarily is to go into Date/Time and uncheck/recheck "Use Network Time," and the problem is usually fixed within about 10 seconds. It goes on normally for a few days, and then I wake up with my phone thinking it's in Albania again.
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Do you live close to New Albany?
Sent from my HERO200 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
Not that I know of. I live in Bloomington, in the middle of the city.
Which PRI and PRL are you on along with the rom?
Had an issue with my time being incorrect and it was due to my PRI. Had to re-assoicate the phone through the MSL code.
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I'm going to be travelling internationally soon and would like to preload my QuickGPS for both the USA and Europe - will a "normal" QuickGPS download do that or do I need to do something special?
Mainly I'd like to avoid having to connect to the network in Europe on arrival to get a solid GPS lock.
Are there any good descriptions of specifically how QuickGPS works?
TIA,
Richard
assuming its the same quickgps as the one in the 6915/45/25 - it works great in any part of the world. all automatic no tweaking required.
djmaven said:
assuming its the same quickgps as the one in the 6915/45/25 - it works great in any part of the world. all automatic no tweaking required.
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Sorry, I wasn't clear. Will running it in the USA provide the data for being in Europe?
I accept that runnning it in Europe would likely get the appropriate local data, but I don't necessarily want to pay $.02/KB to download data when I get to Europe - though that wouldn't be the end of the world.
Kinda curious, that's all.
Richard
rsolomon said:
Sorry, I wasn't clear. Will running it in the USA provide the data for being in Europe?
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u just made it worse
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u just made it worse
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LOL. OK, one more try It's probably a stupid question...
QuickGPS downloads satellite data, right? Does it download ALL the satellite data, or just the ones it thinks are near you? I.e. if I'm in the USA will it only download the birds near me or *ALL* the birds? Thus if I download "fresh" QuickGPS data right before I leave the USA will I get quick acquisition in the USA on departure *AND* quick acquisition in EU upon arrival? or would I have to run QuickGPS and download once I got to EU in order to get the quick acquisisition?
Richard
Good question. I am not sure since I don't remember if I did aQuickGps before using it in Europe. However logic says a US download should be OK for the whole world since the download is Internet based and when the phone pulls the data, the internet does not know where its located (if it would know - who needs the data?) so it should be worldwide.
Don't worry, there are only 24 GPS satellites orbiting the Earth and you get their positions all at once every time you use QuickGPS
I think the quikGPS picks up data by detecting where your gps receiver is located, so it work worldwide.
kms
barmalini is right regardless of where you are located it downloads all the predicted ephemeris data for the satellites of the GPS constellation, you can read more about "offline AGPS" here -> http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47602
Although no one has really answered the OP's actual question - namely will running quick GPS in the US before flying to Europe help his GPS to start up quickly in Europe?
The quick answer is NO. QuickGPS gets info from your device as to its current location (from Cell towers). Thus if you run quickGPS in the states, it will tell your GPS that you are in the states, even if you then fly to europe.
If the OP wants a really fast GPS start up in europe, he will need to run QGPS when he arrives. If not, he can simply run any GPS enabled app on his device and wait for it to acquire a fix (although as previously discussed, Google Maps times out really quickly... but if data costs are a worry then he must be using a GPS app with maps preinstalled on the device).
We did answer and if you had read mine and/or followed my link you would realize that the content of the downloaded data has no connection whatsoever to cell towers.
So yes, since the data is the same worldwide, data downloaded in the US will help when you arrive in Europe, KEEPING IN MIND that you are no longer doing a "warm fix" but a "cold fix" due to the distance covered so i(for an open sky environment) instead of 5/10 seconds for warm fix it might take 20/25, still better than the 40/45 without QuickGPS.
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barmalini is right regardless of where you are located it downloads all the predicted ephemeris data for the satellites of the GPS constellation, you can read more about "offline AGPS" here -> http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=47602
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That's what I *hoped*, but the registry for QuickGPS contains a number of "region" keys: e.g.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS]
"curRegion"=dword:00000002
"region"="US"
so I was concerned the data might be somehow specific to the location I downloaded from.
Richard
P.S. @GpsPasSion - good to see you over "here" on xda-dev, I should have thought to check your site I suppose
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So yes, since the data is the same worldwide, data downloaded in the US will help when you arrive in Europe, KEEPING IN MIND that you are no longer doing a "warm fix" but a "cold fix" due to the distance covered so i(for an open sky environment) instead of 5/10 seconds for warm fix it might take 20/25, still better than the 40/45 without QuickGPS.
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I'll try and remember and do some timed testing - my recollection from my SirfStarIII-based BT338 was that a few minutes were required for the first fix after landing, but I never timed it accurately.
Richard
unwired4 said:
The quick answer is NO. QuickGPS gets info from your device as to its current location (from Cell towers). Thus if you run quickGPS in the states, it will tell your GPS that you are in the states, even if you then fly to europe.
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I'm not quite sure I understand this response. QuickGPS downloads the ephemeris data for the satellites, which tells the phone where all the satellites are, and are expected to be for the near future. It's the same data the phone would get from the satellite, but the satellites transmit this data fairly slowly (and you only need signal from one satellite... each satellite transmits the ephemeris data for all 24 satellites). Regardless of where you and your phone are, the satellites are where they are. Why would QuickGPS care about your current location?
Guys....i know this is not related but when you guys say that one can get a faster fix after downloading the data using QuickGPS, how much faster are you guys taking about? Reason i ask is cos i can download the latest data using QuickGPS then launch Mapking, it still takes between 10 - 15 minutes for me to get a fix (i would probaby have reached my destination by then). Am i missing out something here cos i believe somebody said 45 seconds
oh yes, there is something wrong, I put some numbers above.
Now if you have a coated windshield, are moving and the Kaiser is on the passenger seat then you're asking for trouble !
@dscline - you must have missed some of the replies, QuickGPS data is location independent ;-)
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@dscline - you must have missed some of the replies, QuickGPS data is location independent ;-)
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heh, yeah, his post was at the bottom of the page... when I replied, I didn't realize there was already a whole other page with posts debating that statement.
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oh yes, there is something wrong, I put some numbers above.
Now if you have a coated windshield, are moving and the Kaiser is on the passenger seat then you're asking for trouble !
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I just tried it again. This time, i just put the Kaiser on top of the car and left it there....i finally got a fix after 9 minutes. Now....izzit easier to get a fix on the move on when still?
Is there any other software apart from QuickGPS that will help speed up the fix? I tried GPSProxy but got and error when trying to add virtual port so i drop that I would really appreciate any advice cos i use the GPS almost everyday and it's really frastrating to have to wait 10 minutes before getting a fix
Scann69 said:
I just tried it again. This time, i just put the Kaiser on top of the car and left it there....i finally got a fix after 9 minutes.
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Where are you? Unless you're in an urban canyon or under dense tree cover I cannot imagine 9 minutes to first fix.... Should be under a minute.
Richard
rsolomon said:
Where are you? Unless you're in an urban canyon or under dense tree cover I cannot imagine 9 minutes to first fix.... Should be under a minute.
Richard
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Nup....i'm under open sky and i'm in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. The thing is, i know that cold start can take longer time and even so, 10 minutes is just way to long and what's worse is, i was using the GPS like 5 hours ago and i just tried it again and still it took 10 minutes to get a fix. I seriously think i'm missing something here
I am using Fresh 2.0d and the default weather location is showing a town like 30 miles from me. When I travel however, the correct town wherever I am pops up no problem. I only have a problem when I am at home. It doesn't show my town.
I used to see it when the phone is rooted/stocked.
Not a big deal or anything, just didn't know if there is a patch out for this or not.
My Hero is doing the same thing. I turn off location and turn it back on and it shows the correct city when at home. I don't understand why...
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My Hero is doing the same thing. I turn off location and turn it back on and it shows the correct city when at home. I don't understand why...
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That did the trick, thanks.
I made a post about this problem some time ago, where after upgrading to the 2.1 based ROMs, the location was way off all the time.
The fix for me was updating the latest radio using the steps in the link below. Since then, all has been good again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6084358
I have tried many solutions posted to similar issues in this forum and none are working...
I reflashed the radio
I updated the radio
I also changed roms
I updated google maps...
I installed google voice
I turned the GPS on and off
wiped data and cache
also restarted the phone...
tried indoors and outdoors...
Google maps gets my location fine, but just when I click on navigate it loads and on the bottom of the screen it says "searching for GPS..." and never finds it, the GPS satellite icon shows activity...GPS Test says GPS on...I do not see any other activity at all on the screen though....
this is weird...any ideas? anyone else getting this "error"?
Do you have a data plan or other network connection while trying to get a GPS fix? If you don't, then it can take a REALLY LONG time to get a fix since it won't be able to download the almanac (assisted gps).
Also, some LOCATIONS tend to be very bad for getting a GPS signal. Near tall buildings, for example. Even if you have good exposure to a lot of the sky, the signals can actually REFLECT OFF TALL BUILDINGS and screw up your timings.
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Do you have a data plan or other network connection while trying to get a GPS fix? If you don't, then it can take a REALLY LONG time to get a fix since it won't be able to download the almanac (assisted gps).
Also, some LOCATIONS tend to be very bad for getting a GPS signal. Near tall buildings, for example. Even if you have good exposure to a lot of the sky, the signals can actually REFLECT OFF TALL BUILDINGS and screw up your timings.
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Yes I do have a data plan. No I am not near ANY tall buildings - I am in a residential area. I used to get GPS fine here when I had my Nexus One and my HD2 ... but this phone is giving me a hard time....I wish I could get it fixed -I was planning on taking a trip tomorrow and it would be nice to have it working, anyways it should work, I dont see a reason why it should not work...
any other ideas?....
anyone else having this problem? .... please advise me....
If google doesn't know the coordinates of the cell tower you are connected to, it may be sending you incorrect almanac data, which will actually make it HARDER to connect (since the GPS will be making incorrect assumptions about the visible satellites).
Try disabling your data services and reboot the phone.
I had the same problem for like 3 weeks, prior to it, my screen was cracked and i had it replaced at a shop. I finally took the phone apart, and the little cable was not connected. If the phone's been opened since last the GPS worked, check that. If not, No idea bro.
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I had the same problem for like 3 weeks, prior to it, my screen was cracked and i had it replaced at a shop. I finally took the phone apart, and the little cable was not connected. If the phone's been opened since last the GPS worked, check that. If not, No idea bro.
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no this phone was never opened, but thanks!...
I have tried all of the suggestions I could find and still have no good results...
any other ideas?
I just checked my logCat and I noticed 4 errors all in a row with the tag "MobileNavigation"... the message says "Network Error! 3 : true". Any insight on that?
Thanks in advance...
so no one knows how to fix this
Did you try to turn off the A-GPS? It looks like your G1 try to connect to A-GPS but it can't connect.
did U find how to fix that cause I have kinda the same problem
erebusting said:
I have tried many solutions posted to similar issues in this forum and none are working...
I reflashed the radio
I updated the radio
I also changed roms
I updated google maps...
I installed google voice
I turned the GPS on and off
wiped data and cache
also restarted the phone...
tried indoors and outdoors...
Google maps gets my location fine, but just when I click on navigate it loads and on the bottom of the screen it says "searching for GPS..." and never finds it, the GPS satellite icon shows activity...GPS Test says GPS on...I do not see any other activity at all on the screen though....
this is weird...any ideas? anyone else getting this "error"?
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My google nav app can t find gps but on the gps status i can fix on1-20 sats. the lock occures almost instantly, sometimes even whithout sats. When indoors (deep indoors) I get lock on 1-3 sats, near a window, at least 8-10 sats.
I d like to know if this is fixable, since I couldn t find another thread that treats this specific problem. I have LG E730 Optimus Sol Gingerbread.
I have the same issue with my HTC Amaze. Looks like there is a huge known problem with Google Maps. This is my second Amaze and both had the same problem. I have tried EVERYTHING. Looks like there is a known issue with Google Maps not using A-GPS correctly. I cannot turn off my A-GPS, so I'm pretty screwed, just waiting on ICS to come out.
I too have been having this issue for some time. This finally fixed the problem:
forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/29581-searching-for-gps-loop-help/page__p__252817#entry252817 --> YOU WILL HAVE TO COPY AND PASTE URL BECAUSE I HAVEN'T POSTED ENOUGH TO CREATE LINK IN MY MESSAGE
For my Glacier's Sense ROM, I installed DARKSIDE SENSE v4.0... of course I quickly reverted back to my preferred ROM immediately after completing the documented steps in the instructions. GPS works great... no more "Searching for GPS..." message.
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I too have been having this issue for some time. This finally fixed the problem:
forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/29581-searching-for-gps-loop-help/page__p__252817#entry252817 --> YOU WILL HAVE TO COPY AND PASTE URL BECAUSE I HAVEN'T POSTED ENOUGH TO CREATE LINK IN MY MESSAGE
For my Glacier's Sense ROM, I installed DARKSIDE SENSE v4.0... of course I quickly reverted back to my preferred ROM immediately after completing the documented steps in the instructions. GPS works great... no more "Searching for GPS..." message.
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I can't get to that link, can you PM it to me?
I finally found a semi-fix. In the A-GPS app, if you disable "filter GSP Speed" and disable filter strength, it has seemed to clear up the problem 90% of the time. Sometimes it takes 10 minutes to aquire, but sometimes it only take a few seconds and one it get's a lock, it seems to always keep locked on, which is 1000% better than what I was getting prior to this fix.
I notice my Bing Maps doesn't show the right coordinates of my location. What could be wrong?
You could be standing indoors or somewhere where there's not a good enough GPS signal, or you may have location services switched off.
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I notice my Bing Maps doesn't show the right coordinates of my location. What could be wrong?
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You are not alone. I started a thread where I called it =garbage. I don't want to generalize just in case it's a hardware issue on my part but it always shows my location in a different city and when using the GPS on maps it seems to always be trying to catchup.
GPS settings
How can we tell if the GPS has locked on to any satellites...or for that matter, if it's even on??? There doesn't seem to be any direct mention of GPS in the settings menu...just a general option to turn location services on or off. Am I missing something here...or does ms not think that giving users direct control over GPS is important?
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How can we tell if the GPS has locked on to any satellites...or for that matter, if it's even on??? There doesn't seem to be any direct mention of GPS in the settings menu...just a general option to turn location services on or off. Am I missing something here...or does ms not think that giving users direct control over GPS is important?
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Totally agree with you. My guess though is that when the circles radius is just a couple pixels from the central point then its GPS; since GPS is accurate to a couple feet and A-GPS when the radius is about half the screen. Again just guessing but I really do wish there was an option.
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Totally agree with you. My guess though is that when the circles radius is just a couple pixels from the central point then its GPS; since GPS is accurate to a couple feet and A-GPS when the radius is about half the screen. Again just guessing but I really do wish there was an option.
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I believe you're right about the meaning of the radius of the circle in the stock map app. But, it probably isn't as obvious in other kinds of apps that use GPS.
I'm gonna shoot ms an email regarding this...and I suggest that anyone else that agrees that this is less than ideal do the same. Its too late to have them do anything about it in the upcoming January update, but if they hear enough complaints about it, maybe they'll do something about it in the update after that one.
Personally I'd rather Ms did NOT add in any such options. I have the option to use or not use location services, that's enough. Apps that can utilize GPS will switch the circuit on and use it while they're the active app. As soon as you switch away, the app tombstones and GPS switches off, to save battery life. That's just the way I like it, nice and simple. No need for an option of any kind there. It just works.
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Personally I'd rather Ms did NOT add in any such options. I have the option to use or not use location services, that's enough. Apps that can utilize GPS will switch the circuit on and use it while they're the active app. As soon as you switch away, the app tombstones and GPS switches off, to save battery life. That's just the way I like it, nice and simple. No need for an option of any kind there. It just works.
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Jim, if the battery on my HD7 were more robust, I would agree with you. But it's not...so I don't. I would like the option to utilize only tower/WiFi triangulation...and to be able to enable my GPS only when I need my location to be precisely determined.
You are right...it does just work...which was more than I could say for my Vibrant's GPS for quite a while. But, access to any setting that could help me milk some more life out of my battery is access that I want.
GPS ?!?
I have both the HD2 and the HD7. The HD7 with services ON show my location over half a mile away from my office. This is consistent and constant. It shows me in the middle of a hwy norht east of my office. My HD2 not have this issue. It pinpoints my location, tells me in meters how accurate it is and tells me how many satellites it is in contact with. It will actually follow me accurately around the building inside and out. What's the problem with the HD7?? Seems like it is a step backward to me in this regard!
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I have both the HD2 and the HD7. The HD7 with services ON show my location over half a mile away from my office. This is consistent and constant. It shows me in the middle of a hwy norht east of my office. My HD2 not have this issue. It pinpoints my location, tells me in meters how accurate it is and tells me how many satellites it is in contact with. It will actually follow me accurately around the building inside and out. What's the problem with the HD7?? Seems like it is a step backward to me in this regard!
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How wide is the circle around the dot? It may be using the Cell tower / WiFi to determine your position and therefore be very inaccurate.
What country are you in?
I guess it's possible that the actual maps are wrong and are showing the incorrect map overlay for your country?
after reading this thread i tested my HD7 with the bing map and its accurate, showed me where i am i changed to aerial map to confirm it...
i believe the data (3G) have to be connected, i am on unlimited data plan so its on all the time, wifi do not work as i tested with the wifi after that and it showed my location far away from my home...
this should fix everyones issue Go to setting and select find my phone check box both opitions and now try bing maps again. you will also notice well driving bing maps will keep a better track well your moving
did that and it now works perfectly, previously it was over a mile off my actual location
Me living in Thailand, whenever my HD7 connected to WIFI (no matter where), the current location always changes to San Jose. I have no idea why this happens ?
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Me living in Thailand, whenever my HD7 connected to WIFI (no matter where), the current location always changes to San Jose. I have no idea why this happens ?
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Mate, this issue was happen to me in Bangkok too,
I try many apps to fix this, but the result was same..
I see my location was stand in somewhere on the sea at Europe.
That's suck...
Make them REAL MS !!
hd7 no gps please help
gps dosent work on google maps when i flash back to old rom gps works
As far as I know location services do not use GPS exclusively. It uses GSM cell and tower info as well to speed up approximation and let enough time for GPS satellite locking. GSM cell data is stored in internet databases (do not know where and how) but if there is a mislocated tower (e.g.i Thailand) your location might be determined in a wrong way.
To keep it simple M$ hidden this mixed mode location service. I don't know what happens if you switch off location service in settings and use a GPS application for locating yourself. Is there a difference? Might be.
ppl said that the built-in gps for the 8.9 is great...is not true.
currently i don't have any data plan with att on my 8.9. just using the 8.9 via wifi. well google maps recently allowed the download of maps for offline use. well i download offline map for nyc and was testing outside today. it was bright sunny day. i tested outside in midtown of manhattan for about 10 minutes and then downtown for another 20 minutes.
here is the result i got:
1. i loaded google maps and it wasn't able to find me when i was in midtown. the device was turn on for about 10 minutes. as soon i was near bryant park which have free wifi and connected to it, google map was able to find me right away.
2. then i travel downtown and was outside for about 20 minutes and it was searching for satellites and can't find me where i'm located. i was not near any free wifi. so i gave up.
so i think either google map either require data to work properly or the built in gps for the 8.9 is not that great or doesn't work at all.
i heard another offline gps map program called locust. i will do testing with that app later this week and will let you guys know the result.
any1 here also have the same result as me, please post your opinions here also. thx.
Nope.
However, I am using the P7300 non-LTE, non-US flavor.
Tablets have room for big-ass antennae, especially for GPS and they will usually get a steady lock without aid. It still is A-GPS, though (as in Assisted-GPS, meaning it uses all available data to get a lock - network cell towers, wi-fi networks in range, sensors and satellite data).
Mine gets a lock even inside an apartment building. Maybe you should have it looked at, if your warranty applies.
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Nope.
However, I am using the P7300 non-LTE, non-US flavor.
Tablets have room for big-ass antennae, especially for GPS and they will usually get a steady lock without aid. It still is A-GPS, though (as in Assisted-GPS, meaning it uses all available data to get a lock - network cell towers, wi-fi networks in range, sensors and satellite data).
Mine gets a lock even inside an apartment building. Maybe you should have it looked at, if your warranty applies.
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Which offline mapping apps are you using?
I'm not sure it's only the wifi availability that's the differentiator here. You went from within a city that has extremely high buildings (where you got no gps sats) to an open park with open sky (where you suddenly locked on to sats) and then back into the city with the high buildings again..... See where I'm going with this.
Maybe I'm off on my assumption but you can't blame me for thinking it.
Jiggity Janx said:
I'm not sure it's only the wifi availability that's the differentiator here. You went from within a city that has extremely high buildings (where you got no gps sats) to an open park with open sky (where you suddenly locked on to sats) and then back into the city with the high buildings again..... See where I'm going with this.
Maybe I'm off on my assumption but you can't blame me for thinking it.
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The park has high buildings around it too. When I was walking to the park and was near the park, it still couldn't find any satellites until I use the park free wifi.
For the ppl that got the gps working w/o wifi or any data plan? Can you confirm what map apps are u using? Can you elaborate how u got ur 8.9 gps working w/o wifi or any data plan?
Maybe let's all here do an experiment, go outside, turn off ur wifi and 4g and see if ur google map are able to find where u r with ur gps on only w/ offline map for google map? Please report back ur result. Thx.
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The park has high buildings around it too. When I was walking to the park and was near the park, it still couldn't find any satellites until I use the park free wifi.
For the ppl that got the gps working w/o wifi or any data plan? Can you confirm what map apps are u using? Can you elaborate how u got ur 8.9 gps working w/o wifi or any data plan? Maybe let's all here do an experiment, go outside, turn off ur wifi and 4g and see if ur google map are able to find where u r?
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I can use only the internal gps without wifi and find my location indoors using Maps app.
Sats aren't always directly overhead in the sky so it could have everything to do with time of day and where they are located in the sky. Hence my buildings and open park comment.
*Haven't had to do this on this tab but maybe your location files are messed up from something you installed or maybe you have a tab with foreign location information here in the states. Maybe try the info at the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17081413&postcount=1
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I can use only the internal gps without wifi and find my location indoors using Maps app.
Sats aren't always directly overhead in the sky so it could have everything to do with time of day and where they are located in the sky. Hence my buildings and open park comment.
*Haven't had to do this on this tab but maybe your location files are messed up from something you installed or maybe you have a tab with foreign location information here in the states. Maybe try the info at the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17081413&postcount=1
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you said you can use your internal gps w/o wifi using maps app...is that google maps? were you on wifi and then you turn off your wifi? if you did, i think maps aka google map will remember your last location even w/o wifi. can you try again when you are outside w/o any wifi and report back your result? thx.
Btw i dont physically have any 4g sim card in my device...dunno if that has anything to do with it?
hmmmm...found an interesting specs:
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/12/15/bell-samsung-galaxy-tab-8-9-lte-review/
- WiFi (b/g/n), Bluetooth 3.0, A-GPS
noticed it said a-gps. a stands for assisted. that means the 8.9 doesn't really have a physical gps chip and will need data in order to get gps to work properly.
any1 has who has a 8.9. can you try this for me and report back the result? can you go into settings > locality> gps and check only gps and UNCHECK assisted gps for mobile network use by google etc.. so just check the middle for gps and uncheck all the rest, which i below is the first and third related to A-GPS or anything with google.
now go into google map and see if your gps still work and find where you are?
Quick search found this thread. Unfortunately he doesn't state how he found the tablet has internal GPS and there are no follow on comments to confirm/deny. But seems that someone would have caught and corrected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271350
Also I always have assisted gps turned off because I don't particularly like Google knowing everywhere I am, anonymous or not.
Could be my brief experiences with it are a fluke as I just have started playing with this tab and have been more concerned with other stuff working. But nonetheless that's what I've experienced.
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Quick search found this thread. Unfortunately he doesn't state how he found the tablet has internal GPS and there are no follow on comments to confirm/deny. But seems that someone would have caught and corrected.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271350
Also I always have assisted gps turned off because I don't particularly like Google knowing everywhere I am, anonymous or not.
Could be my brief experiences with it are a fluke as I just have started playing with this tab and have been more concerned with other stuff working. But nonetheless that's what I've experienced.
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hmmmm...u have 8.9 and have assisted off? which version of 8.9 do you have, wifi only or lte version? can you state your os and can do a screen shot with your gps working with google map? how does it takes your 8.9 to lock to a satellites?
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hmmmm...u have 8.9 and have assisted off? which version of 8.9 do you have, wifi only or lte version? can you state your os and can do a screen shot with your gps working with google map? how does it takes your 8.9 to lock to a satellites?
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i957 LTE version running... in between right now. About to install CM10 fresh again and reload all my data.
Hmmm... Not sure when this became about me showing my tab. Again, was just stating my experience. I'll look at it again when I load CM10 from scratch. I usually poke around on here when I'm not at home doing more worthwhile stuff. I may have time in the next couple of days.
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i957 LTE version running... in between right now. About to install CM10 fresh again and reload all my data.
Hmmm... Not sure when this became about me showing my tab. Again, was just stating my experience. I'll look at it again when I load CM10 from scratch. I usually poke around on here when I'm not at home doing more worthwhile stuff. I may have time in the next couple of days.
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hmmm...i maybe interested in loading cm10 and if i can get my gps to work properly. what os is cm10? is that still honeycomb version? what is the pros and cons of cm10? is the con cm10 that the camera and usb charging doesn't work?
Use app like "Gps status & toolbox". It tells you how many satellites are locked
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2&hl=en
I know my 7300 has real gps, but I can't speak for your LTE model
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Use app like "Gps status & toolbox". It tells you how many satellites are locked
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2&hl=en
I know my 7300 has real gps, but I can't speak for your LTE model
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Thx...installed this app....see attached screenshot.
Here are my settings:
Wifi turn on
Inside my apt
Use of wifi or mobile network aka agps are turn off
Gps turn on
Only able to lock to 1 satellite. But google map still not able to locate me.
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Only able to lock to 1 satellite. But google map still not able to locate me.
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It takes at least 3 sats to locate you (spherical intersections and all that). So I'm not surprised you are not located in this instance.
Dude... Inside you can't use gps... It needs a line of sight with satellites in the sky... Jeez, please lookup gps on Wikipedia...
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Dude... Inside you can't use gps... It needs a line of sight with satellites in the sky... Jeez, please lookup gps on Wikipedia...
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Well one poster here were able to work inside his house. Go look up in previous post. Anyway I will test this out outside today, beautiful clear day today. But I don't expect any gps to work properly. Will report back result later.
Inside a building, gps might work near windows, or under a glass roof or so. Surrounded by concrete, it is impossible. But a device might position you based on cell towers or a database of locations for WiFi routers, as Google has built up.
was walking to work today. here are my settings and results:
wifi - turn off
agps - turn off
gps - turn on
clear sunny day, outside for about 5 minutes. got 3 satellite to locked from that app i installed last night.
google map and locus still UNABLE to locate me. see attachments for my results.
well at least i was right that gps won't work for me...lol