OK, I know right off the bat that this is a dumb question, but I just can't figure out what the big deal about Espresso is. I've searched many, many times, but that just brings up people asking how to install it.
What I'm curious about is what's the big deal? What does Espresso bring to the table? Functionally, not cosmetically, why would I want Espresso on my phone?
Because if it's just a cosmetic change, people surely wouldn't be cluttering up threads so much asking about it, right?
It brings nothing but a newer looking Rosie Bar. I for one cant stand it and would prefer the stock Rosie to Espresso. Ive also grown to like the Droid Launcher...
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It brings nothing but a newer looking Rosie Bar. I for one cant stand it and would prefer the stock Rosie to Espresso. Ive also grown to like the Droid Launcher...
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OK, thanks.
That's pretty much what I thought, but so many people seem so very, very eager to get it within 10 seconds of a new rom release, I thought maybe it might add some actual functionality.
But if it's just the cosmetic change, then I agree, it's butt-ugly. Stock Rosie looks much better. Haven't tried out the Droid launcher yet, I'll give it a look. Gotta say though, I'm not sure about ditching Sense. It's not so much Sense itself I'm attached to, but some of the widgets that depend on it....
I for one think any variation of rosie is ugly, I prefer nexus launcher. I also liked launcher2, with the app dock. That sinistermashes dudes idea for a dock as a launcher was a kewl idea. Conservative and intuitive.
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Gotta say though, I'm not sure about ditching Sense. It's not so much Sense itself I'm attached to, but some of the widgets that depend on it....
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Neither the Droid Launcher or Espresso themes ditch Sense. They just change the look of the launcher bars at the bottom of the screen. All the Sense features and widgets still work fine with either of them.
I like the stock rosie or the nexus launcher, at least those tell you which screen you're on. The expresso doesn't and it's big... too much space taken up.
I don't get what the big deal is.
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OK, thanks.
That's pretty much what I thought, but so many people seem so very, very eager to get it within 10 seconds of a new rom release, I thought maybe it might add some actual functionality.
But if it's just the cosmetic change, then I agree, it's butt-ugly. Stock Rosie looks much better. Haven't tried out the Droid launcher yet, I'll give it a look. Gotta say though, I'm not sure about ditching Sense. It's not so much Sense itself I'm attached to, but some of the widgets that depend on it....
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The Droid Launcher I put together doesnt get rid of Sense.
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OK, thanks.
That's pretty much what I thought, but so many people seem so very, very eager to get it within 10 seconds of a new rom release, I thought maybe it might add some actual functionality.
But if it's just the cosmetic change, then I agree, it's butt-ugly. Stock Rosie looks much better. Haven't tried out the Droid launcher yet, I'll give it a look. Gotta say though, I'm not sure about ditching Sense. It's not so much Sense itself I'm attached to, but some of the widgets that depend on it....
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Mind directing me to a screenshot of the Droid launcher? I'm intrigued.
Can anyone tell me how to restore the stock rosie? I want that expresso gone.
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Mind directing me to a screenshot of the Droid launcher? I'm intrigued.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6048904&postcount=1349
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The Droid Launcher I put together doesnt get rid of Sense.
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I'll check it out. As I said, I'm not attached to sense, I just can't bring myself to get rid of a few of the widgets that rely on it.
That said, from a cosmetic point of view, I think Espresso is going about 10 years backwards from a UI design point of view. I also think the stock, Google developed Android launcher belongs somewhere in the Windows 3.1 league.....
Then again, I also don't understand why people give a crap about the lockscreen. I always just do a quick double click on the menu button and never see it in the first place.
Maybe I'm just not the target audience for these particular tweaks....
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I'll check it out. As I said, I'm not attached to sense, I just can't bring myself to get rid of a few of the widgets that rely on it.
That said, from a cosmetic point of view, I think Espresso is going about 10 years backwards from a UI design point of view. I also think the stock, Google developed Android launcher belongs somewhere in the Windows 3.1 league.....
Then again, I also don't understand why people give a crap about the lockscreen. I always just do a quick double click on the menu button and never see it in the first place.
Maybe I'm just not the target audience for these particular tweaks....
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Id give up sense in a heartbeat if i could find a bookmark widget and email widget as nice as senses. And the full weather animations too.
I hear beatiful widgets has animations? Same level as 2.1?
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This looks promising! I can't wait till the devs get a hold of this one!
http://www.larvalabs.com/product_pages/intelligent_home_screen.html
Imo this blows MotoBlur and Sense UI out of the water. Looks great and much more efficient than the standad launcher. I hope addons will be vailable in the market to add new notifications for things like facebook. I think I'm more excited about this than flash..
it does seem promising but will it run better and/or as well than the standard Sense UI or the MotoBlur?
This looks very, very trick.
And you posted this in development why?
But I do like that interface idea. WinMo 6.5 anyone?
Was just about to post this loool, lucky i searched to see if i was the only one with the news.
Looks awesome, if someone ports this etc.. it will be great.
this looks very very promising!
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And you posted this in development why?
But I do like that interface idea. WinMo 6.5 anyone?
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I agree, for me if I wanted a homescreen like that I would just stick to WinMo. Well, probably don't want the thing crashing on me so I wouldn't go with WinBlows. Hehe, but I assume some people find it more useable, wouldn't it be better as a full-screen widget of some sort? that way you could still use the multiple home screens, just have the larva labs one on the main screen... hmmm
Looks interesting. I'm waiting for it.
On the other hand, this is an app, not a ROM development deal, so I moved the thread.
So essentially this is just a double-ended windowshade? Drag down to see notifications and up to see widgets? I still prefer the standard setup where notifications remain in the minimized windowshade until it's dragged down. It also seems this would make it more cumbersome to launch apps.
IMO Larva Labs should stick to making games.
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I agree, for me if I wanted a homescreen like that I would just stick to WinMo. Well, probably don't want the thing crashing on me so I wouldn't go with WinBlows. Hehe, but I assume some people find it more useable, wouldn't it be better as a full-screen widget of some sort? that way you could still use the multiple home screens, just have the larva labs one on the main screen... hmmm
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As a widget you wouldn't be able to drag, as it would drag the widget itself, so it would have to use buttons instead...
I'm not impressed.
HOWEVER, I am conducting beta testing/bug detection for SweeterHome.
WOW! should you see some of the features that SH will be coming out with!
I can't wait till it is finalized! It's working great right now - but, there are several more features that are being developed and some final tweaks that have to be made.
This program has a cool concept... But, I still want to be able to see my wallpaper, my widgets, etc.
This app is just too plain vanilla.
Wouldnt this be a good idea if it just took up one screen, instead of being the only one? That way people could loook at all their cool widgets and what not
i want to try this
From what I heard it's a lockscreen? =\
So it's similar to Flyscreen, but only with one screen?
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So it's similar to Flyscreen, but only with one screen?
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Flyscreen is not a home replacement, this is.
I would like this as a lock screen also.
But
Sweeter home ftw
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I'm not impressed.
HOWEVER, I am conducting beta testing/bug detection for SweeterHome.
WOW! should you see some of the features that SH will be coming out with!
I can't wait till it is finalized! It's working great right now - but, there are several more features that are being developed and some final tweaks that have to be made.
This program has a cool concept... But, I still want to be able to see my wallpaper, my widgets, etc.
This app is just too plain vanilla.
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I have a grudge against the dev of Sweeter Home for taking so long to update his HR :/
And it won't pass till the new release is available and I can steadily use it as my default HS.
Regarding SH - The dev is working on SH when not at work. She had a project at her regular job that took up ALL of her time and she had to abandon her personal projects for awhile. She is now working hard on SH again. But, because of her constant updates and some cool innovations that she doesn't want to be stolen she is only allowing a very few people to beta test (also, she gets enough info from the beta testers she has to stay busy - more testers would just complicate her job). But, she is making a LOT of progress. She has about five or six completely new features, it runs smoother, and looks great so far. Just be patient.
Didn't mean to highjack this thread. I like the idea behind this app. But, I wouldn't want it as a home replacement. It would be nice if it could operate as a window shade. A user could decide the screen to place the shade pull on and on what side of that screen. Then the user could pull it out select an option and the shade would draw back as the selection implemented. Or, while adjusting the app it would stay open until the "close shade" button was selected.
That IMHO would be a MUCH better option than a home screen replacement.
I love the new ROM as I'm sure a lot of people do, I just want the sense ui feel. If this is possible, or your working on it right now, please let me know. Thanks in advance!
you could download the home replacement panda hero! its as close to sense ui you can get without actually using a hero rom
I actually tried the Panda Home Hero home replacement, and it looked pretty good, except for the little bit of text at the bottom that reads "Light Version" or something to that effect. Is there any way to remove that, or am I just being hopeful? I don't really feel like paying for a paid version, especially now that Cyan's been able to get past the whole video thing, developers of Sense roms will hopefully be able to start producing roms with working video cameras. Just my opinion.
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I actually tried the Panda Home Hero home replacement, and it looked pretty good, except for the little bit of text at the bottom that reads "Light Version" or something to that effect. Is there any way to remove that, or am I just being hopeful? I don't really feel like paying for a paid version, especially now that Cyan's been able to get past the whole video thing, developers of Sense roms will hopefully be able to start producing roms with working video cameras. Just my opinion.
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If you really look around the web, you can find websites that have the paid apk file for panda hero. I would post the file here, but I don't want to get banned, The only problem I have with panda is that it doesn't change your status bar, nor icons to match sense ui. I think someone made an espresso theme, I will check it out....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636245
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622087
It was 2 posts above yours. For the love of Christ, please search first.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622087
It was 2 posts above yours. For the love of Christ, please search first.
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Did you take the time out to read the post prior to yours??? I already found a much better theme then the one you posted. Clearly I'm not the only one who doesn't take the time out to read. Gotta love these xda know it all smart asses...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622087
It was 2 posts above yours. For the love of Christ, please search first.
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Did you take the time out to read the post prior to yours??? I already found a much better theme then the one you posted. Clearly I'm not the only one who doesn't take the time out to read. Gotta love these xda know it all smart asses...
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his reply being a smart ass post = yes. your suggestion of a better theme= no.
the one he suggested has a beta 2 theme. just my $0.02USD
jsp254 said:
his reply being a smart ass post = yes. your suggestion of a better theme= no.
the one he suggested has a beta 2 theme. just my $0.02USD
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It is a little bit better, but I was hoping for a the hero version, not the espresso kind. All the sky blue and pink colors is annoying after a while. I guess beggars can't be choosers...
I remember a thread on here a while ago where people were theming to get the Windows Phone 7 look. There's now a launcher on the market called Launcher 7 that does most of the work for you, you should check it out.
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Just tried it out. Its very smooth, and its the best one I have come across.
im enjoying this launcher,its really smooth.
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Definitely. If there's one thing that I'd like to see more of on the Market, it's more "alternative" launchers like this. Launcher Pro, ADW, Go, etc. all have their differences, but they're more or less the same in that they're all plays off of the whole multiple homescreen and a dock thing. It's nice to see new ideas out there. I remember a while back there was a launcher that showed all of your texts, email, facebook notifications, etc. in kind of an agenda view. It never really took off, but it's good to see devs think outside the box about the homescreen.
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Definitely. If there's one thing that I'd like to see more of on the Market, it's more "alternative" launchers like this. Launcher Pro, ADW, Go, etc. all have their differences, but they're more or less the same in that they're all plays off of the whole multiple homescreen and a dock thing. It's nice to see new ideas out there. I remember a while back there was a launcher that showed all of your texts, email, facebook notifications, etc. in kind of an agenda view. It never really took off, but it's good to see devs think outside the box about the homescreen.
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I strongly agree
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but they're more or less the same in that they're all plays off of the whole multiple homescreen and a dock thing..
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Because thats the core of how android to this point is intended to work. I like Launcher7, its fast, smooth and functional so I play with it here and there but the tile UI is comparatively bland and boring even with widget support (and the custom ones I've seen that arent bland and boring are WAY too busy). I'm gonna put it on my wifes phone since she'll love the big ass simple tiles concept.
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Because thats the core of how android to this point is intended to work. I like Launcher7, its fast, smooth and functional so I play with it here and there but the tile UI is comparatively bland and boring even with widget support (and the custom ones I've seen that arent bland and boring are WAY too busy). I'm gonna put it on my wifes phone since she'll love the big ass simple tiles concept.
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sir I want to say this without coming off as a hater at all..
but that homescreen needs a little bit of work, it looks gaudy and awful!
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sir I want to say this without coming off as a hater at all..
but that homescreen needs a little bit of work, it looks gaudy and awful!
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without using custom images those 2x1 and 1x1 tiles (and the headphone/camera images) are all there is. I'm not going to spend anytime importing images because I like my android phone as an android phone and it wont get any use anyway. I was basically showing how the UI looks unmolested.
Has anyone ported over the HTC Thunderbolt widgets or at least the clocks? idk if anyone has seen them but they are pretty kick a$$...I know there is beautiful widgets, etc. but I think these have a clean, classy, slick look. Just curious, I have searched and didnt find anything.
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Has anyone ported over the HTC Thunderbolt widgets or at least the clocks? idk if anyone has seen them but they are pretty kick a$$...I know there is beautiful widgets, etc. but I think these have a clean, classy, slick look. Just curious, I have searched and didnt find anything.
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if you look in my sense theme thread i have a lot of the clock apks as flashable zips
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=994561
when i revisit the theme ill add some more of them as well
also lp sense ui in the regular android app/game section imitates sense widgets about as good as can be done
Thanks, those are nice...Im running the community rom and just want some eye candy, I get bored fast. I just dl them and will try them out later...good work!
Just to let you know, the Sense Widgets on the Thunderbolt is tied to the Sense framework, so unless the rom is ported, you can't get the Widgets seperately
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What would be sick is the notification panel. when pulled down, the top shows the most recently used apps. If I knew more on how to port/develop, I would do it, but I digress...
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What would be sick is the notification panel. when pulled down, the top shows the most recently used apps. If I knew more on how to port/develop, I would do it, but I digress...
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that is actually a feature that is so unpopular on sense roms that its either 1) stripped out of the roms 2) replaced with power controls
Right on. But I'm sure there are some people that would like it. I imagine it's a waste considering the native android multitasking management....plus, it's probably Huuuuuugggeee memory hog
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Right on. But I'm sure there are some people that would like it. I imagine it's a waste considering the native android multitasking management....plus, it's probably Huuuuuugggeee memory hog
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yeah im sure some people would like it..but not worth the effort prolly imo given that its redundant with holding down the home key showing latest used apps
Exactly. Along with the long press of the home button, is there or had there been any way to get the most recently used 8 apps as opposed to the last 6? This had probably already been addressed our isn't a point of concern, so I apologize for thee possible redundancy.
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Clutch from the market is a good way to be able to recall recently used aps and it makes a nice transparent widget on the home screen.
I'm new to the Android scene (coming from a Touch Pro 2) and I'm really hating the Motoblur interface. Is it possible to install another launcher, or is that something that's hard coded in the ROM?
For some of it you can install a new launcher, ADW, ADW Ex, Launcher Pro are a few examples.
Any of them will allow you customize your homescreens more.
Curious wat you don't like about it? It seems very snappy to me. Much improved over previous versions of blur ui.
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Its snappy and neat but not as snappy as a third party launcher such as launcherpro
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I don't mind this motoblur but go launcher is still more functional for me.
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i suppose i dont disagree... put the topic was that he was "hating motoblur", and while old versions were truly hate worthy, i don't find this version offensive! in fact if they had launched originally with this version, i don't think there would be much hate at all... LP and ADW are still better, and easy solutions for those who like more customization for sure!
The only thing I don't like about this blur, are the 4 launcher icons. Wtf 4? I want/need my app drawer button in the middle, and there's no middle with 4...
So, aside from that, I would be using the stock launcher. When will manufacturers realize people need options, and options are the biggest advantage over iphone. I would be perfectly happy with blur if I could add a 5th icon to the launcher bar.
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I put Launcher Pro on my wife's D3. Apart from a very occasional graphics hangup on the homescreen (which may or may not be from Launcher Pro) it's working really well. She likes that the interface is cleaner, and I don't have to try and explain how "this icon with two squares represents your app drawer", heh! Using the Froyo Wide style for the dock, visually, makes a big difference in not being confused on her first Android device.
Only thing I actually kind of miss is the Moto's QuickContacts widget, which shows up invisible from within LP; and LP's people widget isn't very nice IMO.
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I put Launcher Pro on my wife's D3. Apart from a very occasional graphics hangup on the homescreen (which may or may not be from Launcher Pro) it's working really well. She likes that the interface is cleaner, and I don't have to try and explain how "this icon with two squares represents your app drawer", heh! Using the Froyo Wide style for the dock, visually, makes a big difference in not being confused on her first Android device.
Only thing I actually kind of miss is the Moto's QuickContacts widget, which shows up invisible from within LP; and LP's people widget isn't very nice IMO.
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I get the same graphic hangup on waking the device. It's seen as the desktop area being black while the dock is still visible and showing the wallpaper. Happens every time but clicking the app drawer or rotating the phone makes it go away. This happend on my d1 occasionally with cyanogen as well so I'm fairly certain it is Launcher Pro. Still can't live without LP as the blur home sucks imo.
I honestly love this blur ui. The blueness is awesome, The widgets are sweet, the icons are nice looking, and the 3d-ness is pretty sexy. This is all coming from a touchwiz fan tho
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I honestly love this blur ui. The blueness is awesome, The widgets are sweet, the icons are nice looking, and the 3d-ness is pretty sexy. This is all coming from a touchwiz fan tho
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Dude... it's okay that you are one, but you don't say things like that in public.
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I honestly love this blur ui. The blueness is awesome, The widgets are sweet, the icons are nice looking, and the 3d-ness is pretty sexy. This is all coming from a touchwiz fan tho
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I didn't know you got a Droid 3. I loved your themes on the Fascinate. I'm actually getting one myself on the 27th. Can't wait to ditch the Fascy for it. Any plans on making themes for this when it gets root?
And I agree. The blur on the D3 is very nice. I've absolutely hated every version of it besides the D3's. I hate the TW3 launcher but like all of the TW features(like notification bar toggles). I love TouchWiz4.
Overall I don't mind blur at all. I wish they had certain features from the full blur, but I switch launchers like no tomorrow. I have ALL paid versions of LPP, ADW, Mobile Shell, and Go. I wish I could keep the favorites launcher from blur or find something similar to that.
Motoblur is now called "Motorola Application Platform"
Hahaha that sounds like "we don't want to call it Blur because everyone hates Blur."
Under "Operating System" on Verizon's page on the details screen:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/droid-3-motorola.shtml
Also, it's funny that Motorola decides to phase out the name rather than phase out Blur completely: http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/09/motoblur-name-phased-out-due-to-public-feedback/
And by funny I mean annoying!
But as the others have said, it's much less annoying than what it used to be. At least when you get your phone you don't have all of these stupid widgets everywhere preloaded on your screen. I really can't stand having all the VZ apps.
I actually liked the blur ui on this phone, but it seemed too laggy. I put launcher pro on and it has helped, but I still notice a little. I am thinking it shouldn't have any lag at all being a duelcore phone and all. Any settings I can change to help it?
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I didn't know you got a Droid 3. I loved your themes on the Fascinate. I'm actually getting one myself on the 27th. Can't wait to ditch the Fascy for it. Any plans on making themes for this when it gets root?
And I agree. The blur on the D3 is very nice. I've absolutely hated every version of it besides the D3's. I hate the TW3 launcher but like all of the TW features(like notification bar toggles). I love TouchWiz4.
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I would definitely theme this when the time comes, I planned on it. I kinda dont know if Id want to theme it TBO, Blur is perfect (For me anyways). If someone ends up making an aosp rom or something I could probably theme that for the people that want to be de-blured. Im not sure how this phone will work theming wise.
I really don't mind blur on D3, way better than the blur on that defy I was tinkering with for a while, but I've been a loyal LP user since my OG. What I would like to see though is that quick contacts widget working in LP. That widget is slick, one of the coolest widgets I've ever seen, and I would use it alot. Anyone got any ideas on that?
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Yea, the d3 is seems to be nearly stock android.
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I would definitely theme this when the time comes, I planned on it. I kinda dont know if Id want to theme it TBO, Blur is perfect (For me anyways). If someone ends up making an aosp rom or something I could probably theme that for the people that want to be de-blured. Im not sure how this phone will work theming wise.
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True. There are a few changes I'd want, like making the menus black with white text instead of white with black text.
I got the D3 today. Of course, the one I get has a touchscreen that stopped working after activation. Waiting until Friday for the new one to come in. But, at least my DX2(Fascinate replacement, since mine has issues and I was gonna give it to a friend) came today and works so I have that in the mean time.
EDIT: Got the replacement in earlier. Loving this phone so much. It's extremely smooth and fast(even with Blur), and the keyboard is amazing. This is the first version of Blur I've liked. I would like root to remove V Cast apps and a few other bloatware apps, but meh, I can wait. At least Blur has app groups in the mean time.
Anyone know if there's a way to restore an old LP backup from an OG Droid?
I keep getting no files found... the backup's on my SD card... do i have to create the directory on my internal storage for it?
[edit] Ignore - Figured out solution. Simply copied the LP backup folder from my SD card to my internal storage and it worked.
Guessing since it mounds as sd where as the actual sd card mounts as sd-ext?