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[SOLVED] once rooted always rooted?

First of all forgive me if this question as been asked a million times but to be honest I'm finding the Dream section a mess.
Now onto my question.... I've rooted my G1 and I'm currently running JF 1.51 with hero skin, now I'm I correct that I will always be rooted as long as I stick to custom roms?
The other thing is when I go into recovery mode I get a message at the top of the screen something like "Unable to find /system/command/recovery.cmd" am I correct that means I'm unable to proform backups? which is no big deal for me.
Finally whats the deal with this new spl, do I really need it to run a hero ported rom? I only ask because in all my years flashing windows phones the spl is something you should flash once and leave alone to avoid errors that can brick your phone.

Yes you will always be rooted. Not really sure on the recovery thing...You might want to try to fix that by flashing another recovery image. Yes you need the new spl to run the hero ROM since its HUGE

alritewhadeva said:
Yes you will always be rooted. Not really sure on the recovery thing...You might want to try to fix that by flashing another recovery image. Yes you need the new spl to run the hero ROM since its HUGE
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Thanks for the fast reply, as for the recovery thing like I said I would never back anything up and restore it anyway (I've always started afresh with every new rom)
Now going back to the spl thing.... Ive already updated my radio to the latest so when I do finally go for a hero rom and do flash my spl is the new spl a custom one which will allow me to reflash back down to a non-hero rom? or do I have to go back to the orginal hardspl first?

The new SPL was released by haykuro and it allows you to have about 30 more mb of space on your system partition. It still allows you to flash non-hero ROMs as well as hero ROMs. Sorry for the slow response >.>

Thanks alritewhadeva everything is clearer now.

Unable to flash Anything else

i have done quite a few searches on this and yet have found nothing so i hope i dont get reamed for posting this.
if someone has a link for this answer id be very thankful.
if not then PLEASE SOMEONE EXPLAIN!!!!!!!
at the moment i am running drizzy hero rom. to do the update i did use the one touch root. on a second phone i did it manually. on both i added the hard spl and am running the RA v 1.2.1 recovery. I liked this ROM and wanted to see what bugs it had. after a few days i wanted to switch and try a different ROM I have dl most of the ROMs available and already have them on my sdcard once i did this no ROM would load except for Drizzy(new Vision v2.8). after trying a few things and accomplishing nothing i decided to redo EVERYTHING. unrooted my phone rooted again applied recovery made sure radio was to date and spl. and still nothing i cant even run the original jf1.5 that i was using before deciding to port. this issue is occuring on both phones. 1st phone was again done with one step root and the 2nd phone was done completly manually. I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to try these other roms SO PLEASE SOMEONE HELP. if you need more information on what i did with these phones ill gladly tell you step by step on what i did.
sorry for that.
I was using my G1 and also had a friends. On my g1 i used the one step root. I used the Instructions from The Unlocker.com. It uses flashrec.apk and also Amon Ra's recovery image. After that i went over to the How to Load a Custom ROM. same site. It asks you to check the Radio and the Spl. The radio is 2.22.19.26I and the spl used was the HARDSPL 1.33.2005.
Once i finished that i went and formated the sdcard to Fat32+Ext2+LinuxSwap also converted Ext2 to Ext3.Then I did-Move Dalvik Cache to SD. last 3 steps to speed up hero. after all of that I loaded 4 ROMS CyanogenMod ROM, jACXHeroSkiv Hero ROM v1.8, Drizzy’s NewVision TouchFlo ROM, and JF v1.5 Cupcake ROM. I have only flashed Drizzy's until last night.
I was unable to flash any other one and when i flashed back to drizzy I had problems loading it back but eventually loaded fully the issue was running the startup wizard it kept crashing. after a reboot it was ok.

Give us step by step on what you did and USE PARAGRAPHS
that whole thing looked like mumbo jumbo to me
put new lines where they belong to help separate out the steps you took

FIXED! thanks!

hobbitton said:
FIXED! thanks!
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did you do a data wipe? you need to wipe going from hero to cupcake/donut

When I first did all of that I did. Am I supposed to data wipe everytime I switch the Rom?

hobbitton said:
When I first did all of that I did. Am I supposed to data wipe everytime I switch the Rom?
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when your using hero rom's, yes.
if your upgrading cupcake roms (ie cyan 4.0.4 to 4.1.9.2 ), no
If its not working, WIPE
you cant go from hero to cupcake without wiping and not expect a lot of problems. they cause too many issues.
hero roms use the data partition differently

also remember to wipe /system/sd/ to clear all of that out. pull your /system/sd/ to your computer first though

thanks you guys it helped alot

help!!!! i searched for hours and cant fix it

my phone is stuck in a reload state i put jac xreroskiv rom or what ever its called and its stuck it starts up but keep saying hero over and over any ideas. help please thanks in advance i had already installed hero and such was just trying this new rom. i tried other roms too but no dice. even the original hero rom i originally put on here.

You should probably make a post for help in the rom's forum that you're having problems with.
Also, it would help if you told them which G1 device you had, what radio/spl and stuff like that.
But with really no info from your post the only things I can think of is that you need to do wipe or reformat your sd card.

Most likely you just have to repart your ext partition. But more info would help.

i have radio-2.22.19.261 hboot-1.33.2005 dream32b i was able to restore it but now i cant install the rom . i tried again and got the same problem so i probably got the wrong radio for the rom i want which is this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534479\

You have the right radio. Really there is only one radio. There's the 26I that we use and the old radio that is not used anymore. Do not flash the hero radio or you will brick your phone. Did you repartion your sd card so it's fresh?

yeah i used the home and end button and did the partition using the boot loader thingy. i ended the loop but now its like i bough the phone new with root make sense?

mad82109 said:
yeah i used the home and end button and did the partition using the boot loader thingy. i ended the loop but now its like i bough the phone new with root make sense?
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Not the least amount of sense to me, but if your phone is working ,then good. You had a bootloop which is usually solved by wiping your ext3 and phone.

maybe i have the wrong build? i had some ra build cant remember what it was called i reflashed to cyanogen 1.4 gonna try it when i get home

mad82109 said:
maybe i have the wrong build? i had some ra build cant remember what it was called i reflashed to cyanogen 1.4 gonna try it when i get home
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all you had to do was wipe ext3, you should do this when changing any hero build unless otherwise noted. be sure you are wiping the intern. memory as well ALT+W in ReCon. also, repair ext filesystems and flash again, hero roms take a while to boot so make sure you are patient.

okay ill try when i get off work. i have 1.33.2005
2.22.19.26I my build is cyanogen + jf 1.4 can i install the rom i discussed earlier using the method u talked about? it was slow when i installed it earlier anyway of making it faster kept loading.

i fixed it dont know how lol but i did. i think i just had the wrong build. close thread plz. thanks for all the help people.

mad82109 said:
i fixed it dont know how lol but i did. i think i just had the wrong build. close thread plz. thanks for all the help people.
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I kept seeing you say you were trying to flash the cyanogen build 1.4. That is not a rom but the recovery. But glad its working now. Put [SOLVED] on your thread title.

Stuck at G1 Screening

Ok so lets start out by saying i know i am not bricked because i am able to get into fastboot as well as recovery. So this all started when i tried to move to CyanogenMod v4.2.13 . At 1st i was on Cyanongen 4.2.10 which i was having some problems on so i wanted to move to a new rom. I then went to flash xROM Eclair-v1.0 which went ok but then i started to get FCs and wanted to go back to Cyanogen roms. I then flashed the 4.2.13 rom and i am where i am not. Every time i have tried to re flash the the rom i have done a full wipe of both the phone and the EXT, but i get stuck on the G1 screen every time no matter what. I have let it seat there for 30 mins with no luck at all. Not sure what to try now. Any ideas would be great.
Here is what i am running right now.
Fastboot reads
Dream PVT 32B ENG S-Off
Hboot-1.33.2005
Radio-2.22.19.26I
I am running the RA recovery RA-Dream-v1.5.1
Any help would be great thanks.

Have you tried to downgrade with dream.nhg and reroot ? I'm sure therebis better method then this too I'm jus throwing idea out there would wait for this and some one with more experince to help out.
Also did you flash the 1.6 ota before cyan rom, just trying make it clear for future questions.. Also try a different rom suggest trying superd 1.2 it's super fast and very stable

No don't downgrade using dream.nbh it will downgrade the radio and kill your phone!
You already have the DangerSPL installed, so you can't downgrade the radio anymore.
Just try to flash a ROM which was made for the DangerSPL (also called DeathSPL, HaykuroSPL etc.)

Same problem-FREAKING OUT
Hi,
I think I have the same problem and I think my phone is bricked. A long time ago I changed the two splash screen pictures and not I can't event get past the first 1. I'm stuck at the first splash screen.
I just learned that everytime you want to flash cyan, you have to flash the radio 1.6, wipe then falsh the cyan rom. I think I did some mis steps and effed it up. PLEASE HELP.
I think I have the Danger SPL that sats Dream PVT 32B ENG S-Off, HBOOT 1.33.2005 (DREA10000), CPLD_4, Radio 2.22.19.26I, Apr 20 2009,15:30:43. I have JF 1.42 recovery and been trying to update to Cm recovery1.4 but have had no luck because of these problems.
How do you flash a rom from the SPL screen with the three android on skateboards. I just need to figure this out please.
IS MY PHONE DEAD?

hbguy said:
Hi,
I think I have the same problem and I think my phone is bricked. A long time ago I changed the two splash screen pictures and not I can't event get past the first 1. I'm stuck at the first splash screen.
I just learned that everytime you want to flash cyan, you have to flash the radio 1.6, wipe then falsh the cyan rom. I think I did some mis steps and effed it up. PLEASE HELP.
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Where did you read that... It's not true.
And no - your phone is most likely not "dead."

oh phew! what should I do now tho? I just hit camera and power and then hit back and reset the device by pushing send and that worked but now it won't start again.
Should I wipe and try the same spl thing again?

x2phantom said:
No don't downgrade using dream.nbh it will downgrade the radio and kill your phone!
You already have the DangerSPL installed, so you can't downgrade the radio anymore.
Just try to flash a ROM which was made for the DangerSPL (also called DeathSPL, HaykuroSPL etc.)
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Wow thanks for saying thatt I did not see that danger spl was flashed! Good catch! So yes don't downgrade! I'm sure you can flash orinial spl again too..
What you can try is super d 1.6 that requires "danger spl"

how do we go about getting a super d 1.6? what is that?

hbguy said:
oh phew! what should I do now tho? I just hit camera and power and then hit back and reset the device by pushing send and that worked but now it won't start again.
Should I wipe and try the same spl thing again?
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To access recovery, hold Home + Power.
If you have a ROM on your SD card (the root), flash it (ALT + S i think it is.) If your ROM requires a wipe, ALT + W wipes.
Make sure you have the right Radio + SPL for whatever ROM you run.

JGo to the develop forums and look for super d 1.6 rom.. and flash it like any other rom.. wipe factory reset then flash any zip it requires danger spl so should for those that have it.. like said its really good and pretty well stable and blazing fast
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613809

Oh i had a question,
when i take my sd card out and then go to the spl and reset the device, it worked. does that mean that there is something wrong with my sd card? If so do you know where there are instructions to reformat it?

hbguy said:
Oh i had a question,
when i take my sd card out and then go to the spl and reset the device, it worked. does that mean that there is something wrong with my sd card? If so do you know where there are instructions to reformat it?
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So you get passed the G1 screen? If you have a extra sd card that's not partation use that to flash your rom(make sure it'd formated to fat32) then when you get into a rom put your partation sd back in then go to settings and format sd card there then go into recovery Amon ra and repartation sd.. Jus a suggestion too you can reformat within recovery too I jus don't kno the commands

Well what i have been trying is to get 4.2.8 back since that has been the best rom i think Cyanogen has had out, but that doesn't even work when it has always been my backup rom. Well I am about to try Super D 1.6 will report back after it.
Edit: Well SuperD 1.6 flashed good and is running but why is it that no mater how many times i try i can't get CyanogenMod to flash ok when i was able to do it before.

Ooo I liked cyan roms but notice some lags after awhile use superd is great and well worth trying it

I figured it OUT! I think my sd card was courrupted or something because it wouldn't boot with the card in but when I took it out and booted using the Danger SPL like I described a few posts back, it worked and got past the first boot screen.
Then I flash cm_recovery_1.4.img but leaving it on the sd and reinserting the sd card when the phone booted. (Oh and I flashed cm 4.2.9.1 because I heard its the most stable)
Next I reformated my sdcard and then partitioned it using the following instructions from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714&highlight=partition+sd
Hope this helps anyone who has same problem. THANK YOU ILOST! Is yours working now too?

Forget the thread all is well again with Cyanogen Roms working. Turns out my SD card needed to be repartitioned but since i was at school all day. I wasn't able to get on a PC and download the ROM. Wonder why the card needed to be repartitioned, but whatever it works now thanks for taking the time to read the thread.

just flash the base rom then flash cyanogen!!!! or flash dwang!!!!!

Nice to hear PROD, I think you had the same problem that I had.
OKAY, now since I've been reflashing like crazy and lost ALL my old apps and imformation since I was using JF 1.5 before.
However, I backed up on nandroid before all this craze, does anyone know how to replace certain files like password safe or shipping list apps and daat on a new nandroid backup so then essentially all my old information can be on this new platform???

Well glad to see both you got working again! Congrats! Hope all will stat well I had this same problem continously. And I believe it's due to cheap / low class sdcards.. Usually when I flash from a different rom and I need to wipe, usually backup what's on sd and apps using titanium backup then format sdcard within phone the flash new rom after I repart it

Congrats to you ilost, you got this thread going well.
I used my backup but when I use that or nandroid then it replaces my recovery back to the old JF recovery and then I'm back at square one so I'm looking for a way to replace or insert certain old nandroid files into a new nandroid file.

Stuck, don't know where to start now...

I have a tmob G1 and I've been running cyanogen for months with no problem. When I updated to 4.2.12 I noticed performance issues that I'd never seen before. This is commented on a lot at the cyanogenmod site and thats where I did most of my research. I read a post where someone factory defaulted, and then re-installed 4.2.12 and said it was flying again. They use DRC83 defanged? I know where to find that but I'm not sure what it is or if I need that. Many ppl made like comments. I read that I should get the radio and recovery imgs at the htc site so I did and flashed both. This is where (I think) I made my first mistake as I have a G1 and not an ADP1. My phone is now running fine with stock 1.6 and the above radio but instead of G1 it says my phone is a ADP1 (obviously). I've tried to install cyanogen 4.2.13 but I'm guessing that I am not rooted anymore because I can't? I've tried the rooting ADP instructions from cyanogen wiki and that doesn't work. Looking at the same instructions for the G1 it says I need to downgrade to RC29 but that seems like a big step backwards. Is that what I need to do? Do I have to start all over again? I don't know what my next move should be? Thanks!

Gonna have to Use the DreaIMG and go back down(make sure dont have danger SPL,but you went back down so dont think you do) then get the "signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-ota-14721" and a recovery (i like amon ra 1.5.2) and get your fav rom( i would give superD 1.2 a try[1.6 requires danger SPL] and 1.2 seems the most stable) but if your goin to use cyan rom get the latest cyan rom, from there after flashed recovery go into recovery do a wipe then flash the dev ota, dont reboot, then flash cyans rom after do a reboot and should be back on cyan's rom

Brilliant! I'm back up and running latest cyanogen. I completely missed the part about dreaimg in the wiki instructions. Thanks for the help.
Also, out of curiosity, why do you like super d? Whats the difference between it and cyanogenmod? Thanks again.

Super D is, in a way, one step faster then the current CM build. It comes with a 10mb ram hack pre-installed as well which is always nice. Don't get me wrong, CM has a dedicated thread on 10mb ram hacks.
Ultimately, it comes down to user experience. And it's always nice to try something new.

jkapernicus said:
Brilliant! I'm back up and running latest cyanogen. I completely missed the part about dreaimg in the wiki instructions. Thanks for the help.
Also, out of curiosity, why do you like super d? Whats the difference between it and cyanogenmod? Thanks again.
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I like Cyan roms just as much as anybody, to a personal pref. i had lot of problems, gapps went missing after updated, FC's and what not, and i did everything from going back down(dreamimg) to update from latest, still had problems, then i wen to superD and i notice a great increase of speed and all around well stabled rom