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Starting fresh on my spare laptop. Anyone have any preferences between Debian or Ubuntu? I can't decide.
Also, as far as developing is concerned, is linux just linux or will one distro be better than the other?
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Ubuntu is for the easy Linux user, but also good for laptops. I say go the osx86 route, I've got Snow Leopard running Vanilla on my laptop.
yeah I've been using ubuntu for a while I was thinking about switching it up to debian, but theres no real reason. osx86 I tried that along time ago and it didnt install so i gave up, i didnt really want it anyhow, it's not very friendly for me i suppose i like having full control over it i guess. maybe I'll try it. lol i have an xp laptop, win7 laptop, ubuntu desktop, and xp desktop. the extra one i moved from xp to 7 but im going to move it to linux.
Osx86 has grown fast, to the point where it's just a couple of steps to install.
1.Get a boot CD
2.Grab a retail Snow Leopard distro(Doesn't have to be store bought if you get my drift...)
3.Install!
4.DSDT auto patcher
You're done!
Nawcom boot CD that auto detects your hardware and if you are capable of using vanilla or not(Basically Core, Core 2, i3, i5, i7 cpus can use vanilla). Doesn't patch your dsdt automatically though.
http://blog.nawcom.com/?p=446
DSDT auto patcher! You can generate your DSDT if it's available, or just create a generic one!
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=235523
red hat
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oh red hat, corporate america's linux. Nothing wrong with it, just their ideals. No offense souljaboy.
LOL ok ok vbetts maybe ill try some osx86 you're quite persuasive....
Try out FreeBSD? Not a bad one either.
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Nawcom boot CD that auto detects your hardware and if you are capable of using vanilla or not(Basically Core, Core 2, i3, i5, i7 cpus can use vanilla). s=&showtopic=235523[/url]
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I'm running 10.6.3 on a 4 year old Celeron M laptop. And I'm sure I had vanilla running at one point.
Then decided to try a sleep kernel. Which didn't work much...
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I'm running 10.6.3 on a 4 year old Celeron M laptop. And I'm sure I had vanilla running at one point.
Then decided to try a sleep kernel. Which didn't work much...
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Netburst might be able to run Vanilla, I'm not sure. Try out Legacy or Modbin for sleep.
Linux Mint is the way to go man! It's like Ubuntu just with lots and lots of improvements. The speed is also better I was amazed when I went from Ubuntu to Mint 10. It's just better
For the most "painless" version def get Ubuntu. But it is rather bloated - though easily remedied.
I like Debian a lot too - but it's not as simple as Ubuntu's stick the disc in and forget it. Also I love the updater - I have a "glorified phone charger" netbook that I keep updated and it runs pretty snappy considering the hardware is dog slow.
Ubuntu 10.10 hands down, netbook remix is nice, desktop version would also work fine on your lappy.
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ubuntu, i boot it using my flash memory
Install Gentoo.
Slackware can make a calculator fun like a Ferrari. Enough said.
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I installed ubuntu 10.10 but it bores me. I was thinking mint debian edition. But I may just go straight debian with gnome. I know my way around linux so troubleshooting issues when they come up isnt a problem. I have a virtual debian command line only server to stream my music through http runs well enough. Never really played with gentoo. lol I really think the real difference between linux is their GUI.
How about this, whoever can come up with the most rediculous/funniest reason why I should install it. I will install your suggested operating system...... GO!!!
The newest Ubuntu or BackTrack!
bertscookie said:
I installed ubuntu 10.10 but it bores me. I was thinking mint debian edition. But I may just go straight debian with gnome. I know my way around linux so troubleshooting issues when they come up isnt a problem. I have a virtual debian command line only server to stream my music through http runs well enough. Never really played with gentoo. lol I really think the real difference between linux is their GUI.
How about this, whoever can come up with the most rediculous/funniest reason why I should install it. I will install your suggested operating system...... GO!!!
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you can have stretchy windows while moving them
How many here use linux as their main OS?
As an ahead, please, no OS bashing. I would just like to know how many of you use linux as your day to day OS. Me, I've used just about everything out there, but these days I've settled on Ubuntu. It has worked perfectly for me for years, so I stay with it. You?
I'm using Archlinux with Openbox as my default OS: fast, really fast!
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I'm using Archlinux with Openbox as my default OS: fast, really fast!
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Yeah, using just about any distro with openbox is usually fast.
PC Windows, Laptop Ubuntu
dual boot win7 64 bit and Ubuntu 64 bit
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dual boot win7 64 bit and Ubuntu 64 bit
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Same here but spend most of my time on Windows. Wine doesn't quite cut it yet.
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Unless I need PS or Reason I use Ubuntu....
I'm even liking Unity now
Not sure Ubuntu actually counts as Linux though to the hardcore folks....
I mainly use Ubuntu for almost everything. For gaming, I use Windows 7.
I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and trying to get used to Unity... I think they made big mistake by removing Classic desktop and forcing Unity. Probably I'll change distro soon.
Ubuntu is my main OS for years.
I used to use Kubuntu as my OS because I like the way it works, its really stable and fast and using less resources then Windows 7, I tried the recent Opensuse 12.1 version and Kubuntu version, they are both good.
But because I don't wish to dual boot and I need Windows 7 for playing games like cod I'm right now using Windows 7 and that is mainly because one application called QQ which doesnt have video chat in Linux and of course I got the resources for running a virtual Windows xp for that app, but I think its not worth it.
But if games and that app where working then I would use Linux as my main os, but I also have an legal license off Windows 7 home premium and I consider Windows 7 as an very good operating system so in fact I like using it because it works good.
But i'm for sure not going use Windows 8, right now I consider Windows 7 stable and fast ( I got an SSD ) but I guess if I didnt need use QQ that then when I quit gaming that I could use Linux, but its because my gf, I need to adjust to her and webQQ is troublesome with video chat.
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I think they made big mistake by removing Classic desktop and forcing Unity.
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Gnome classic is back with Ubuntu 12.04
Ubuntu 11.10 with Gnome Shell.
I use arch, windows just for play games here
Triple booting windows 8 consumer preview, mountain lion, and Ubuntu 12.04.
I use lion the most (for school) then windows for gaming, and Ubuntu when windows upsets me (which it hasn't lately) windows 8 is pretty nice
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Grr I still have a grind with wubi then a grub update. Have they fixed it?
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Btw for my problem it's rtl 8111/8168 :/
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i posted this on the other topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23534574&postcount=28
AllGamer said:
To me it wont matter at all, as i'm still forced to use Windows in the office, but on the personal level
all my PCs and Laptops are on LinuxMint or Ubuntu, or some other dedicated server versions of Debian or FreeBSD, like my home made load balancing router with pFsense, and FreeNAS
They work better if not waaaaaaaaaaaay better than Windows XP, Vista, 7 and most definitely 8
now the latest version of Ubuntu can even run on Android Phones, which makes it even better
there are also native phone version of Ubuntu as well
I've been using Linux since Win9x times, that when Linux was still mostly command lines and ugly X11 GUI
Also if you are a Gamer, YES, Linux does work with Windows Games, it's not plug and play easy as on Windows, but is getting there, just install Wine, or your favourite Emulator for whatever you need to get the game running.
You also got the free virtual box, so you can run technically anything you want in your Linux box
very few games lik only those annoying MMORPG that have security anti hacking protection, will require to be installed in a virtual Windows, as they are not able to compatible in Linux
Most games installs and plays just fine in Wine
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so feel free to ask
however, i must say, chances are you'll get help faster on the relevant distro forum, than here on XDA for Linux related questions
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i posted this on the other topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23534574&postcount=28
so feel free to ask
however, i must say, chances are you'll get help faster on the relevant distro forum, than here on XDA for Linux related questions
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Hmm.. sure .. anyways the solution has been given to me by GOogle
Not me... i dual boot windows 7 x64 and ubuntu
For those of you who do penetration testing, InfoSec, or for the (greyhats), I'm planning on trying to recreate the Pwnie Express Pwn Pad as a side project. If you don't know what I'm referring to, take a look at the following link:
http://pwnieexpress.com/collections/pwn-pad/products/pwnpad
I would never pay $800 for a N7 but I will pay the $20 for the wifi adapter and then build my own!
I work full time and am a n00b when it comes to Android development so any help or testing offers are greatly appreciated.
Holy sh*t they really over price that :/
You would need a WiFi adapter capable of doing your task. Most WiFi adapters are not compatible with aircrack-ng etc...
Also I know some programs listed need the drivers for the specific WiFi adapter used. Let's just say its not a beginners job, but hey, research and test and maybe it will be possible.
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How about making this one works first? A great first step for your project.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31731196
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Thanks for the replies guys, I have a working knowledge of several of the tools used (aircrack-ng suite, reaver, john the ripper, etc). I have a few good wifi adapters that support packet injection, however I'm not sure about any Android capability. I think I even have the wifi adapter they sell with the Pwnie Express version but I'll have to take a look. If so, at least I know that specific adapter will work as intended via OTG cable.
adxgrave, thanks for the thread. I know that the aircrack-ng suite does work on the ARM architecture because I've run it from my Raspberry Pi before, however I understand that's not at all close to making it work on the N7. I'll keep digging into this topic this week and get back here with some more information.
Again, thanks for the replies fellas.
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Thanks for the replies guys, I have a working knowledge of several of the tools used (aircrack-ng suite, reaver, john the ripper, etc). I have a few good wifi adapters that support packet injection, however I'm not sure about any Android capability. I think I even have the wifi adapter they sell with the Pwnie Express version but I'll have to take a look. If so, at least I know that specific adapter will work as intended via OTG cable.
adxgrave, thanks for the thread. I know that the aircrack-ng suite does work on the ARM architecture because I've run it from my Raspberry Pi before, however I understand that's not at all close to making it work on the N7. I'll keep digging into this topic this week and get back here with some more information.
Again, thanks for the replies fellas.
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Even if android doesn't support air crack, I'm pretty sure it does, as I had the alpha app waaaay in the past, you could just boot up Ubuntu and use air crack from there assuming there are Linux drivers for your adapter. Remember, using air crack to crack pass codes is against the law in many places. *unless perhaps you are trying to crack your own to try to increase your security defences on your network.
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Me: Is there a beta?
Jonathan Cran (Support <[email protected]>)
We are currently working to have the image available soon. You'll want to have a nexus 7 32GB / 4G in order to load the image .
So I have an Nexus 7 32GB but sadly not the 4G how hard do you guys think it is to remove the 4G part of the rom?
or do I have shell out $300 for the stock Nexus 7 4G still cheaper then buying it together from the Pwnie Express.
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Me: Is there a beta?
Jonathan Cran (Support <[email protected]>)
We are currently working to have the image available soon. You'll want to have a nexus 7 32GB / 4G in order to load the image .
So I have an Nexus 7 32GB but sadly not the 4G how hard do you guys think it is to remove the 4G part of the rom?
or do I have shell out $300 for the stock Nexus 7 4G still cheaper then buying it together from the Pwnie Express.
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They said 4g? Weird there is no 4g nexus 7.... Only 3g
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Looking at the screenshots, it is just using a Ubuntu chroot to accomplish everything, so you should theoretically just be able to do a Backtrack chroot and hook up a WiFi adapter the same way. I'll try it out when I get home
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They said 4g? Weird there is no 4g nexus 7.... Only 3g
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Ya very true they must have made a typo
Jonathan Cran replied:
sorry, you're totally right, the GSM / 3G / HSPA+ model. Not planning to support the non-3G version at this point, but it should work without modification.
Guys, so, straight to the point, has anyone been able to airodump in nexus7 using ubuntu?
Thanks
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Guys, so, straight to the point, has anyone been able to airodump in nexus7 using ubuntu?
Thanks
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I've been trying to get the chroot to detect wlan1 before bothering with airodump, aircrack, reaver, etc. Probably just missing something stupid
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Flippy125 said:
Looking at the screenshots, it is just using a Ubuntu chroot to accomplish everything, so you should theoretically just be able to do a Backtrack chroot and hook up a WiFi adapter the same way. I'll try it out when I get home
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It would be cool after they release the code if kali linux could be mixed with android or dual booting would be awesome.
I am trying to get kali arm (backtrack 6) to install with multirom but no luck so far.
I am pumped about getting these tools
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Guys, so, straight to the point, has anyone been able to airodump in nexus7 using ubuntu?
Thanks
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Basically unless someone can get the atheros drivers working on the nexus 7 all this discussion is useless. Pawnpad has already done that.
Everything else is simple as you can use deploy linux to run kali or your own distribution for all the tools.
The broadcom drivers could be ported (they already work well on the samsung S2)
However much better to have the atheros usb adapter as the range is much greater.
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Basically unless someone can get the atheros drivers working on the nexus 7 all this discussion is useless. Pawnpad has already done that.
Everything else is simple as you can use deploy linux to run kali or your own distribution for all the tools.
The broadcom drivers could be ported (they already work well on the samsung S2)
However much better to have the atheros usb adapter as the range is much greater.
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Ok, i wouldn't mind buying an atheros usb adapter for N7.
But i need to be sure that i can get or compile the drivers for it.
Has anyone managed to get the drivers from PwnPad release and knows the correct NIC to buy?
Thanks
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It would be cool after they release the code if kali linux could be mixed with android or dual booting would be awesome.
I am trying to get kali arm (backtrack 6) to install with multirom but no luck so far.
I am pumped about getting these tools
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no need for multirom. simply install linux deploy from google play and inside the program choose kali linux as the distribution that you want to use.
Linux will run on top of android and use the Nexus 7 connectivity. However you can't inject or monitor, however you can presently do almost everything else like use metasploit, arpspoofing, etc...
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Has anyone managed to get the drivers from PwnPad release and knows the correct NIC to buy?
Thanks
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They haven't released the image yet. Keep checking their website under "Community Releases"
Thaijames said:
no need for multirom. simply install linux deploy from google play and inside the program choose kali linux as the distribution that you want to use.
Linux will run on top of android and use the Nexus 7 connectivity. However you can't inject or monitor, however you can presently do almost everything else like use metasploit, arpspoofing, etc...
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Couldn't you just plug in an Alfa and use that instead of the built-in wifi?
The Android sticks have USB WiFi and USB-LAN support out of the box. Funny they throw in a few $5 accessories and repackaged it as $800. Wow.
When I test work, I like to test with a mobile devices since they run on batteries and typically a "worst case scenario". If you can connect with a less powerful device then everything else should be good to go.
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Ok guys, so can anyone send a link to ebay or amazon to a wifi dongle that works with injection in ubuntu\bt?
Even better, how can I know which ones have drivers for arm ?
Sorry to say not looking at stacking os I want to get it native booting
Thaijames said:
no need for multirom. simply install linux deploy from google play and inside the program choose kali linux as the distribution that you want to use.
Linux will run on top of android and use the Nexus 7 connectivity. However you can't inject or monitor, however you can presently do almost everything else like use metasploit, arpspoofing, etc...
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On the Indiegogo page for the Ubuntu Edge, you can see a video of a proof of concept for the Ubuntu Desktop.
She used an app on a stock Nexus 4 (if I remember correctly, she says AOSP) and just launch it like that on Android and sent it to the screen.
Am I the only one who find this more amazing than running Ubuntu Touch on a Android phone ?
If you take a look at the size of the ARM Ubuntu version, you have a 500 MB file and I was wondering how Android can just load like that Ubuntu and run it along Android ?
Cheers.
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I was wondering how Android can just load like that Ubuntu and run it along Android ?
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As you point out, the video demonstrates a fully functional version of Ubuntu for Android. In the IRC channel, Ubuntu VP of engineering stated that U4A requires the Android OS to be modified slightly. I'm hopeful this process is unveiled soon and U4A becomes publicly available. It likely won't be very smooth on current commercially available hardware, and there's not really enough storage on an N4 to make it very practical, but it would still be nice to get a glimpse of computing convergence.
Thank you for your answer, is there any way to have access to this discussion ?
It seems pretty smooth on the video, which is surprising when you know the current hardware limitation on Android ...
For the storage, the cloud allows you to only download the file you need so it might not really be a problem.
I'm currently thinking about building a NAS to use it as a storage and download platform, it might be a custom solution for this problem.
Another option is my linuxonandroid project, see it as ubuntu for android but with just a one man team doing it in the spare time
Big plus side is we support a range of distros and are not limiting to Ubuntu
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Also note that the nexus 4 is a device I use and our up and coming LoA ROM will be on the Nexus 4 before you know it
The ROMs aim is to basicly do everything Ubuntu for Android can do and more!
Is this the app your talking about? I wanna try it but dont wanna install some bogus app lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.****ubuntu&hl=en
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Another option is my linuxonandroid project, see it as ubuntu for android but with just a one man team doing it in the spare time
Big plus side is we support a range of distros and are not limiting to Ubuntu
EDIT
Also note that the nexus 4 is a device I use and our up and coming LoA ROM will be on the Nexus 4 before you know it
The ROMs aim is to basicly do everything Ubuntu for Android can do and more!
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Do you think they are using VM to run their Ubuntu ?
It must require a lot of RAM no ?
Something nice in their video is the share of data between the two OS (mail, contact, music, etc). Is it possible to do that when you do a VM ?
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Is this the app your talking about? I wanna try it but dont wanna install some bogus app lol
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Your link is not valid and I didn't find anything on the Play Store with the name Ubuntu.
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Is this the app your talking about? I wanna try it but dont wanna install some bogus app lol
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.****ubuntu&hl=en
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This is my app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
Korgall said:
Do you think they are using VM to run their Ubuntu ?
It must require a lot of RAM no ?
Something nice in their video is the share of data between the two OS (mail, contact, music, etc). Is it possible to do that when you do a VM ?
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Just like my project they do not use a VM, they use native Chroot, which allows Linux to run on the Android kernel from within Android.
SO you get normal access to hardware and kernel features and no performance hit.
Then for the sharing its a mixture of both OS's having access to the same storage so music and files are viewable from both.
For app data shared acrossed it simply requires so work to pass this across from one side to another, something that could be done pretty easy and I have started working on myself
Nice thank you gonna give it a try tonight.
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the play store description says it has instructins on how to install ubuntu 12.04...can I assume I can also install 13.10?
This is Relevant To My Interests
Im interested. Hope this gets updated soon
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This is my app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
Just like my project they do not use a VM, they use native Chroot, which allows Linux to run on the Android kernel from within Android.
SO you get normal access to hardware and kernel features and no performance hit.
Then for the sharing its a mixture of both OS's having access to the same storage so music and files are viewable from both.
For app data shared acrossed it simply requires so work to pass this across from one side to another, something that could be done pretty easy and I have started working on myself
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You're a genius :good:
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the play store description says it has instructins on how to install ubuntu 12.04...can I assume I can also install 13.10?
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Currently its just 12.04 on Ubuntus side as we aimed to make alot of changes for our 13 release, but its coming
So the app gives directions on how to VNC into the linux system, but I want to connect my nexus 4 to a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and a monitor using the SlimPort adapter as seen in the Ubuntu Edge U4A video. Do you have or know of any directions on how this can be accomplished with Complete Linux Installer?
Thanks,
Blake
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So the app gives directions on how to VNC into the linux system, but I want to connect my nexus 4 to a bluetooth mouse and keyboard and a monitor using the SlimPort adapter as seen in the Ubuntu Edge U4A video. Do you have or know of any directions on how this can be accomplished with Complete Linux Installer?
Thanks,
Blake
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For the short term you will have to watch this space, but its actually what I am working on as we speak!
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For the short term you will have to watch this space, but its actually what I am working on as we speak!
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Okay, cool. I am extremely interested in this and I am a developer as well, so if there is anything you need tested or anything I can help you work on, please let me know.
I have a rooted Nexus 4 with sock jelly bean on it. I have played with installing Ubuntu Phone on it a few months back, but went back to android as I felt extremely limited in Ubuntu Phone.
I have the SlimPort® SP1002 from Amazon coming today. As I said before I would love to run it without the lag of VNC. Convergence is my main goal and I am so excited about Edge, but I want the Ubuntu for Android app for my Nexus 4 that I saw Leann talk about being already ready toady. Any idea of where/when we can get it?
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For the short term you will have to watch this space, but its actually what I am working on as we speak!
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Will you implement native chroot at some point too?
So now that the Ubuntu Edge campaign has failed, if/when do you think they will release Ubuntu for Android? I am going to get the new Nexus (Nexus 5?) and hopefully they will have it released for that phone.
I was accepted as a designer, but was told they do not have a Mac app yet meaning I can not do any work until they make one. I was debating about installing windows on my Mac to make a couple themes until they have an official Mac release, but what are the minimum requirements?
Maybe try a virtual machine first? Might suffice for this use.
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Maybe try a virtual machine first? Might suffice for this use.
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Ya I was thinking about installing parallels to run Windows, but windows takes up a lot of space etc and would only be needed for this task. I have older windows computers that may work if I know the minimum requirements for the program.