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Facebook app on Market

Whats the difference if there is any with the pre-installed facebook app and the app on the Market?
As the facebook app on the Market says its not been installed, do we have the latest version?

From what I can tell, pre-installed apps don't know about updates. Like Google Maps for example. It's pre-installed on the N1, but I had to manually download the latest version. After installing from the Market, it now knows when there are updates. Just open your app and hit the menu button and see what version you are running. If it's older than the one in the Market, just grab the one from the Market and overwrite your pre-installed one.

thats the thing, the preinstalled version of facebook has no version number, or I just can't find it.
press menu and go into settings, there is no info about version no.

when you install an app from the Market when it came preinstalled on the phone, does it overwrite it (thus not doubling the space it takes on the phone)?
I've been wanting to update a few apps like Facebook and Voice but I'm running out of space and neither are that important to me yet.
-Mc

it updates/overwrites, it doesn't duplicate the app. The update for Voice makes a big difference over the old one, so do it

danimar1 said:
it updates/overwrites, it doesn't duplicate the app. The update for Voice makes a big difference over the old one, so do it
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done!
Thanks for the tip and the Voice info.
-Mc

McHale said:
done!
Thanks for the tip and the Voice info.
-Mc
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no problem.
The facebook app is a totally different matter though, no new features

[Q] Market doesn't notify for update apps ???

Yes, I've set it to "Notify me when items are updated".
But even I open market, go to Download page and see some update apps there.
Market still doesn't notify me anything.
After I complete download and install any apps, then it notify me there's update apps.
I assume that market will notify me when any apps I've downloaded have update.
Is this normal ? And if not how can I fix it ?
I use Galaxy S with DXJG4 without any task killer.
Thanks,

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this isn't a Galaxy S problem, it's a google problem. I've gone from G1, to MyTouch, to N1, and to the Vibrant, and they've ALL had that problem.
Sometimes, I wouldn't know I had updates if I didn't go to the market.... then the notification will pop up.

piya_m said:
Yes, I've set it to "Notify me when items are updated".
But even I open market, go to Download page and see some update apps there.
Market still doesn't notify me anything.
After I complete download and install any apps, then it notify me there's update apps.
I assume that market will notify me when any apps I've downloaded have update.
Is this normal ? And if not how can I fix it ?
I use Galaxy S with DXJG4 without any task killer.
Thanks,
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Make sure you allow background data in your Accounts & Sync settings, other than that I can't think of the problem. Sometimes there is a 10-15 sec delay after entering the marketplace for it to notify me of the updates that are available.

alovell83 said:
Make sure you allow background data in your Accounts & Sync settings, other than that I can't think of the problem. Sometimes there is a 10-15 sec delay after entering the marketplace for it to notify me of the updates that are available.
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Yes, I've checked allow backgroud data.
I just looking in my wife's HTC Hero market and figure that it's about the same.
No notification until you doing something to trigger it, even go to my download page can't make it.
Seem like push notification on Android is still a long long way to go.

touch on setting on download page will allow you to get update on the apps.
I have same firmware as your. It gives me update notification when i am at download page.

tyj82 said:
touch on setting on download page will allow you to get update on the apps.
I have same firmware as your. It gives me update notification when i am at download page.
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If I have to go to download page, why do we need notification for update apps anymore ?
At download page, update apps will be right there on top.

NotUrAvrg said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this isn't a Galaxy S problem, it's a google problem. I've gone from G1, to MyTouch, to N1, and to the Vibrant, and they've ALL had that problem.
Sometimes, I wouldn't know I had updates if I didn't go to the market.... then the notification will pop up.
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Nope, coming from G1, infact sorta using both at the same time.
Market always notifies me on G1 where as Galaxy S has yet to show a single market notification.
It's always right off the ball to annoy me about Samsung updates when I flash a new FW though.
I wonder why this is the case? Hopefully Froyo will sort out this problem with its auto-update code.

[Q] Cannot update multiple installed apps, is it the new market?

Anyone else noticing that since getting the new market, multiple apps on the Nook Color won't update? They just show open, and I presume would not let you install them at all?
The new Windows Phone 7 clone market seems to show apps even if you can't install them, so sounds like that's what's going on but can't figure out why.
Waze, Facebook, Wifi Analyzer.. I think I saw another one too.
Solution is found, although still a tad quirky. You must have the new market and follow this procedure:
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Ah hah! You are correct. Clearing market data at 161 caused me to lose my apps again. So it seems the full process is as follows: (and note I've never force closed the app, not sure why that should be necessary.
1) set dpi to 160 in build.prop
2) reboot
3) clear market app data (force close first may help?)
4) restart market, accept terms, let it rebuild data at 160 dpi
5) profit
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And another procedure, similar, with a few extra steps.
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Posting my results, might help someone
Preface: NC running cm7 7.1.0 rc-1 on sandisk cl4 16gb card with 0.5 random write, 32 queue depth... See my post in the sd card performance topic
Downloaded and installed lcd density app
Choose 160 dpi
Choose reboot via first option, kill
After rebooting, run market
Notice its still broken
Goto running app/services
Kill 2 market services
Goto installed app list
Force quit market app
Clear data
Run market
Accept
Full market front screen with movies, books, apps, etc
Was able to update 12 apps that didnt have update icons since i downloaded new market app.
I just did that, so i will post back if it has problems and or stops working in the future
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If you update your CM7 or otherwise go back to 161 DPI, the market will eventually stop letting you update again. You can redo the procedure above to fix it. And if you you find your Apps list is empty you can try using AppBrain, it will list updates and you can update them one at a time. Not sure about installing new apps that otherwise would be "incompatible" this way, however.
Thanks to everyone that figured this stuff out, the two posts above are only examples which seem to work, there are other folks who started the ball rolling towards a solution.

New market updates multiple apps for me.
Only problem is that sometimes even if some app is already updated, it still shows it at updating list.

i constantly have to clear data for the new market to work properly. Have you tried that? I know after I clear data I get a notification that updates are available.

mrkavanagh said:
i constantly have to clear data for the new market to work properly. Have you tried that? I know after I clear data I get a notification that updates are available.
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By that do you mean clear the notification list? I wouldn't want anyone to read that and go ahead and wipe their data.

Applications>manage apps> market> clear cache; clear data.
I constantly have to do this as well.

RASTAVIPER said:
New market updates multiple apps for me.
Only problem is that sometimes even if some app is already updated, it still shows it at updating list.
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Oh, sure, it's updating some apps.. Just some are showing up without the ability to update.
Like I know at least a few apps have updated and they don't show up as needing updates. Or look at Appbrain, you can always see app updates there regardless of the market.
Seems like it's just filtering more apps than it used to. I'm about to remove the new market, it sucks anyway.

Silly question, but how do you guy get the new Market?

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Silly question, but how do you guy get the new Market?
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Installed automatically on my NC.. Lucky me. There are also apk's floating around.

I'm having a similar problem since updating to nightly 142. Certain icons are no longer visible in Launcher, Advanced Uninstaller, or Titanium Backup. When I visit the Market I'm not given the download box in the header or an update option. Almost as if the app is incompatible with the device. I tried the Applications>manage apps> market> clear cache; clear data procedure with no different result. I did get the message when returning to Market, so I guess I cleared something. The effected apps ( that I'm concerned about ) are Facebook and, of course, Angry Birds. Couple others as well. Thanks for any suggestions

416inversed said:
Applications>manage apps> market> clear cache; clear data.
I constantly have to do this as well.
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^THIS...Oh SO much THIS
I had to do this today so that nook tweaks would update

khaytsus said:
Installed automatically on my NC.. Lucky me. There are also apk's floating around.
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Thanks, m8.
You aren't the first one saying "it automatically updated" but surprisingly, mine doesn't. Don't know why.
Yes, I can see some Vendor (Vending?).apk floating around the net but no clue which version they are.

Maugchief said:
I'm having a similar problem since updating to nightly 142. Certain icons are no longer visible in Launcher, Advanced Uninstaller, or Titanium Backup. When I visit the Market I'm not given the download box in the header or an update option. Almost as if the app is incompatible with the device. I tried the Applications>manage apps> market> clear cache; clear data procedure with no different result. I did get the message when returning to Market, so I guess I cleared something. The effected apps ( that I'm concerned about ) are Facebook and, of course, Angry Birds. Couple others as well. Thanks for any suggestions
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Didn't help the issue at hand here for me either, unfortunately..

Sorry you're having the same issues. I also posted to the cyanogen forums and am still waiting for another reply to the post. That's where the Titanium Backup suggestion came from. Here's hoping for another suggestion here.

It doesn't seem like the market notifies you if an app needs a manual update due to changing permissions anymore. Also I get a Appstore and market both saying I need to update Amazon mp3 and after I update one the other app store will still say it's not updated so you have to update again in order to clear the two out
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I am having the same issue as the OP. Agenda Widget Plus and Facebook disappeared from my "MyApps" list but can be found by searching. I have the new market and going into settings to clear data and cache for market did not help. Had been working without issue previously. I am running n146.
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I disabled MarketUpdater.apk last night and uninstalled Market updates and I STILL am having problems with SOME apps.
Oddly, I can see Waze again, but I still cannot 'see' the Plus version of Android Agenda Widget and a few others. I CAN see the free version of Android Agenda Widget, go figure. For some reason I can usually see apps in AppBrain that need updating, but those apps have also disappeared from AppBrain, so I'm not sure what I'm missing currently.
Damn you Google, what are you doing?

Same situation for me. Went to a backup of an earlier nightly that still had the old market and even there Agenda Widget Plus was missing. Also checked the android market web site and it shows Agenda Widget as incompatible with NC. How does the market determine whether an app is compatible with a device? I contacted the Agenda Widget developer and he said he had not changed anything.
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elwood1229 said:
Same situation for me. Went to a backup of an earlier nightly that still had the old market and even there Agenda Widget Plus was missing. Also checked the android market web site and it shows Agenda Widget as incompatible with NC. How does the market determine whether an app is compatible with a device? I contacted the Agenda Widget developer and he said he had not changed anything.
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I'd kinda like to know that as well. When I originally downloaded the crappy Facebook app I had no problem. But when I go to the market on the website now it says it is not compatible even though it works fine. I suspect now that the market is "device aware" any of my installed apps that get updates will not show if the app is no longer considered compatible so I will be stuck with the older version.

patruns said:
I'd kinda like to know that as well. When I originally downloaded the crappy Facebook app I had no problem. But when I go to the market on the website now it says it is not compatible even though it works fine. I suspect now that the market is "device aware" any of my installed apps that get updates will not show if the app is no longer considered compatible so I will be stuck with the older version.
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My guess is that Facebook can use the GPS, or Microphone, Camera... some hardware we don't have.
This is new behavior, at least changed behavior, and it's very annoying.

I've read that "device aware" suggestion in a few places, and decided to try the build.prop edit that I've read about elsewhere. Changed the device name to Samsung S and manufacturer to samsung. It didn't make a difference. I also can't understand why Angry Birds and Checkers could be device specific. The Market definitely knows I've got Nook because it is grayed out in the drop down box. I hope brighter minds than mine can come up with a work around.

Update app problem in the new Android Market

Okay. I feel very stupid at the moment. I am using the Android 2.3.4, released by Paul, with the new Android Market.
Today the app told my there was an update for Wapedia, and i clicked the app, but there was no update button. Only open and uninstall.
I login to the market place on my PC, and I was able to update Wapedia through there.
Has any of you experienced anything like that? Is it a bug in the New Android market, in the Wapedia App or is it me being plain stupid can't figure out how to update the app?
Any suggestions?

i think i know what's the problem... I had the same issue with Google+ because it's not available naturally in my region, so I used Market Enabler to install it, then I disabled Market Enabler... then when I could update the G+ app, there wasn't the update button, so I reenabled the Market Enabler, went back to market, and suddenly the update button was there...
So, I think you should enable the Market Enabler, and fake for example the T-Mobile USA, and you will have the ability to update... I hope I could help, if not, then sorry, but it is worth to try out
cheers

XT69 said:
i think i know what's the problem... I had the same issue with Google+ because it's not available naturally in my region, so I used Market Enabler to install it, then I disabled Market Enabler... then when I could update the G+ app, there wasn't the update button, so I reenabled the Market Enabler, went back to market, and suddenly the update button was there...
So, I think you should enable the Market Enabler, and fake for example the T-Mobile USA, and you will have the ability to update... I hope I could help, if not, then sorry, but it is worth to try out
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Thanks for your fast answer. I've downloaded Market Enabler, and I will try your suggestion if I experience this problem again
Maybe it's just a problem with this app, so now I just have to wait and see when some other app gets an update.
Was your problem in the new Android Market as well?

I can't really remember, since I used it since the time it first appeared on the net... but maybe yes It shouldn't be related to the market app itself, rather geo restrictions

XT69 said:
I can't really remember, since I used it since the time it first appeared on the net... but maybe yes It shouldn't be related to the market app itself, rather geo restrictions
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Thanks. I will wait and see. I will post an update in here when something new happens

Make sure, that you have root, and SU is granted for the Market Enabler

Happens to me all the time on this new Market. I just ignore it and come back to it later.

The update is there but isn't ready. Come back awhile later and u will have the update button.

I got an update from Beautiful Widgets now and it worked like a charm without market enabler
Thanks for the help guys. Thought I was being retarted for not to know how to update an app

[Q] Phone thinks I have an app update, but nothing on Market page?

Every now and then I'll get a notification that I have an update ready. I click the notification to open My Apps and...nothing needs an update.
I have noticed that my phone will randomly delete a paid game of mine, Totemo Full, and I've given up on reinstalling that. Would that be causing the issue? Did Totemo get a recent (like < 1 week ago) update?

What exactly, quoted, does the notification say? A lot of apps are set to update automatically, these apps might be telling you they were updated, not that an update was just available.

Quick tip: you can always go the market page for each app to see when it was last updated. Totemo is here, and it appears it hasn't updated since July 29.
Mine will sometimes say that there are more updates than there really are, but I've never had it tell me there's an update when there isn't yet. Have you used Titanium to freeze any apps, by chance?

minmongoblin said:
Every now and then I'll get a notification that I have an update ready. I click the notification to open My Apps and...nothing needs an update.
I have noticed that my phone will randomly delete a paid game of mine, Totemo Full, and I've given up on reinstalling that. Would that be causing the issue? Did Totemo get a recent (like < 1 week ago) update?
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Your apps disappear cause some of the by default get installed to your media. You can fix this by going to settings /applications /manage apps/media area and the O. Es that have a check mark by them, click on it and select move to phone and they won't disappear anymore. As far as the updates go, and as the other post says apps are set to update automatically and thats why you can't see them. It's just letting you know an update has been done. Hope this helps

I had a customer with this problem yesterday. Try going to market>menu>my apps> then look at each non installed app and look for ones that say "update" (for him it was myverizon and vz tones)
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There are a few different threads on this......what is happening is your default account is switching over to a secondary account. If you go into accounts under the market menu and switch your account, you will see there is in fact an update for an app purchased on the other account. I am desperately searching for a fix to this. I now have apps split between the two accounts and if it weren't for my company using G-apps for e-mail now, I would delete second account.

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There are a few different threads on this......what is happening is your default account is switching over to a secondary account. If you go into accounts under the market menu and switch your account, you will see there is in fact an update for an app purchased on the other account. I am desperately searching for a fix to this. I now have apps split between the two accounts and if it weren't for my company using G-apps for e-mail now, I would delete second account.
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This is not happening for me. I have only one google account on the phone. I have turned off automatic update for each app where it was turned on. I get a notification every day that there is an app with an update; open the notification and find that there are no apps available to update.
This version of the market has issues, for sure.

Just go to settings/apps & clear market data. You might also have to do that if you have updated an app outside the market.

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Just go to settings/apps & clear market data. You might also have to do that if you have updated an app outside the market.
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I've tried that; it doesn't fix the problem (and I have no non-market apps installed.) It's more of an annoyance than anything, but I just wanted to point out that this is not always explained by an app with automatic updates enabled (which should give a notification of their own, by the way), or having a second Google account on the phone. The market app is problematic, period.

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Every now and then I'll get a notification that I have an update ready. I click the notification to open My Apps and...nothing needs an update.
I have noticed that my phone will randomly delete a paid game of mine, Totemo Full, and I've given up on reinstalling that. Would that be causing the issue? Did Totemo get a recent (like < 1 week ago) update?
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I get this too sometimes and find it to be Verizon apps like "Verizon Video". When you go to "My Apps" in the market scroll to the very bottom of the list and you might see it there. That's where I found my missing updates.

Yep most often Verizon apps. Annoying
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