Just Curious~On all device - XPERIA X1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, i don't know if it have been asked here before. But I am just curious, what happen if i keep on flashing new ROM on my device? is it gonna cause something to my motherboard or other part?
anyway, this is just a question. not happening to me yet.
I am asking because this is what happen to my last iPhone.. i guess????

Well, you may brick your device. Maybe that's what happened to your iPhone. But that will happen if you're reckless and don't read instructions. If you follow the right steps there should be no problem.
Anyways, flashing a new rom is always under your own responsibility. I cannot guarantee anything but I've flashed my ipod touch, my omnia and my xperia maybe 30 or 40 times each one and never had any bricks. Almost bricked the itouch though, but I revived it at last.

ooo.. hmmm.. when u flash u xperia.. how do u restart after the message show its done? my xperia always stay at the done screen after i flash any new rom. in my case i usually either i press the restart button at the back or open the battery.. anyway im using micro sd method.

always hard reset after flashing is done
simultaneously pressing two silver buttons on front + soft reset
and why should flashing bother/damage your motherboard (if done correctly)?

all flash memory have a limited number of times you can write to them before they die
but being that all our storage is in the same type of flash mem as your rom
you flashing your rom is not the first place the flash mem will wear out

Yes yoiu risk bricking your phone, but it comes with the territory. You'll never know if your next flash is buggy/there's a glitch in your phone that'll brick it.
It's like someone who goes out of his house a lot has a greater chance of getting run over by a car when he crosses the street, compared to someone who stays at home 24/7. But the guy who goes out has more fun.

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SORRY...but PLEASE HELP

i know alot of you all dont want me to start a new thread but my phone is acting crazy and i need help ASAP its giving me plenty of problems but only going to ask to help a couple....
1.) i installed psShutXP Power key on my phone and it worked great and actually still does but after it has been on my phone my phone will soft reset at any given moment(mainly when im on a phone call)...i have uninstalled and installed to see if that was the problem and unistalled again and still no fix please help on this problem first
2.) sometimes when i hit my power key to wake up the phone from sleep mode it gives me either an all black screen or an all white screen so i will have to put it back to sleep and try 2 or 3 times
P.S. i own the htc fuze from at&t in the US and same ROM as it came with...PLEASE help and dont flame and i will not add another thread of this kind again
No worries friend. This site is here to help.
Your best bet is to try a hard reset. This will wipe the device and set it back to factory fresh state. Just like you took it our of the box.
The downside to this is all of your data and programs in memory will be wiped out. The SD card will be fine, but to be safe, remove it befre you hard reset.
To hard reset, do the following:
1. turn the device off.
2. press and hold the volume down and Enter Button (round one on front)
3. Soft reset and keep holding down volume.
4. follow instructions on the screen.
Since you are faced with this, you may want to try flashing a new ROM or deleting some of the ATT "bloat" that comes pre installed. Check here for new ROM advice. Check here for a lighter set-up of the factory ROM.
Good luck.
Doug M.
is it any other way i might be able to fix without hard reset...just want that to be a last resort
P.S. my phone have seen some water it fell in outside during a rain storm so didnt know if that would have something to do with it also but this also happen a couple of months ago
It sounds like you have already tried the normal procedures. Your best bet for future stability is to start over. If you follow one of the 2 guides in my earlier post, you will have a much more stable device going forward. It takes a bit of time, but is worth it. Once you get the hang of it, it gets easier.
Doug M.
just try to hard reset it. you always can go back to factory ROM.
now im using wm 6.5, and my device performance is spectacular. XDA is the best.
thx guys.....i will try the energy rom 3 wm 6.5 that i have heard alot about
energy rom is a good choice and my current rom .
don't worry , once you figure out the rom scene you will hard reset all the time and will learn how to backup your contacts and texts .
a good thing is that nrg's rom even has a good restoring program built in . Pim restore . i use it religiously .
If you run into problems flashing another ROM or the phone still "acts" up, the drop or the water may have damaged some circuitry in the device.
You may need to restore to a factory state and send it in for service.
thx guys i was out of town.........but yea i got a replacement coming in so back to the drawing board with adding all the software i had on the old one to the new one but once again thx
my phone would turn off randomly and when slid it shut. bent the battery pins out a bit and all good now. just thought I'd add that as a possible problem/solution
lol wish you told me a few days sooner i just filed insurance claim and got a new but thx anyway because i might just have to do that with phone....im not hard on phones just bad luck if you know what i mean
Other things to do in the future if you come across similar problems:
1. Uninstall the last app you installed prior to having the problems.
2. See if problem is still there...
3. Repeat 1&2.
Always back up your data... There are some very nice backup programs available.
If above doesn't work.
Hard Reset and load programs one at a time after hard reset until problem reappears...or hopefully does not reappear.
If you load a bunch of apps on your phone, it can be more difficult to narrow down because of the amount of changes made by each app it may not return to the same state after uninstalling a program. That is why Hard Reset can be your friend...

(g1) custom radio load failed. Need help!

hey guys i have a g1. its rooted.
i tried to get the latest custom radio. but idk why after wiped and then i used update frm sd. its did something then asked to reboot to finish installation . then the "Unboxing and an arrow to phone" came up. and its not going away .. its always there... i removed the battery fone ... tried to go to the recovery mode. nothing works .......
Need HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You said you cannot get into recover home + power
Can you get into the bootloader?? (camera + power)
If you can't boot into either of theese modes, then you probably bricked your phone during your radio update
nope.. i tried. the same screen comes up...
so there is no way to fix it now?
If you search around the forums abit there's a couple things you can try that will work in the chance that somehow it's just a softbrick....
However, not being able to boot with camera + power or home + power , is usually a sign of a brick
i think i got a softbrick.... cause its not the G1 sign.. the installation sign thats on the screen.. "Unboxing and an arrow to phone"
anyhow tnx dude
o7hafiz said:
i think i got a softbrick.... cause its not the G1 sign.. the installation sign thats on the screen.. "Unboxing and an arrow to phone"
anyhow tnx dude
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Doesn't matter what you can see on-screen, if you can't get in to the SPL (home+camera) and can't boot the phone itself, then the thing's dead. Simple as.
Only way to fix that is to take it back to HTC/Tmo and say that's what happened after an OTA update, or replace the motherboard.
What radio were you trying to flash? One from the Hero?
not looking good :/
That part where you said unboxing.. by forever did you mean atleast 10 minutes? sometimes this part can take forever.. If you yanked the battery while it was still updating the radio odds are you're sol :/
Also did you have the correct spl installed? sadly jacking up the radio install is the easiest way to perma brick your phone...
i tried to flash this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552591
then i tough it'll be better if used the latest radio as that ask... so i used "update-hero-radio-63.18.55.06IU_6.35.08.22-signed" i pasted it on my sd. then used update frm sd zip...
the installed and asked to reboot.. i did then i installed but that the end that screen came up =/
So in short you tried to update a G1 with a Hero radio image. I think that's the first time I seen this one. Not sure where to point you too at this point.....
jackslim said:
So in short you tried to update a G1 with a Hero radio image. I think that's the first time I seen this one. Not sure where to point you too at this point.....
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The "ROM Flashing for dummies" book? ;P
Moral of this story, don't flash radio images intended for other devices!!...Or ROMs for that matter. They won't brick but without the required drivers they aren't going to work.
so thats it.................. i just leave it like that......... trash that fone? lol
that radio was a mistake.. i didnt read that name.. i thought it was for g1's htc rom.. but w.e
tell what should i do... just leave it till i get a solution?
o7hafiz said:
so thats it.................. i just leave it like that......... trash that fone? lol
that radio was a mistake.. i didnt read that name.. i thought it was for g1's htc rom.. but w.e
tell what should i do... just leave it till i get a solution?
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Depending on how long you've had the phone, if it's been less than a year, you could call T-Mobile and say something to the affect of, your phone said it needed to reboot to apply an update and now it's stuck on this screen etc.. etc.. , and they would probably issue you a replacement, however if you get caught doing this, they could charge you an additional fee, and this is probably considered an insurance scam, you can decide what you'd like to do on your own, I just wanted to throw that little disclaimer in
nice to you find such matter funny.
anyhow ... i press and held the track ball and hit power button.. the blue like came out and the screen is black... O-o is that a good sign?
please help guys
Trackball does nothing but put it into "blue light mode", the ones you need working are home+power & camera+power. there are several pseudo solutions that claim to work even if these key combinations don't and perhaps they do for a few that are only softbricked. But, there are several hundred people with G1's in paperweight mode who'd beg to differ.
Alas, you've got alot of reading ahead of you, which could have been avoided had you done more reading in the first place :/
My suggestion, being that it seems you're fairly new, with a fairly new phone is follow jackslim's advice above and do alot more research next time...
thank you all of you...
ill go talk to T-mobile tomorrow see if they are able to help...=/
but i just wanned to show how the screen looks like
http://i27.tinypic.com/10rskyx.jpg
once again thanks for the advice
kinda odd tho. have you tried putting rc29's DREAIMG.NBH on the sd and holding camera+power...
Edit: then again, a hero radio on a "not hero" could definitely cause "odd"
oh and don't forget to atleast wipe your sd before going to t-mobile....

Update: Can't believe my Galaxy S is OK

I'm on Darky's ROM since 9.2 and I've been flashing different stuff with 100% success rate... So far.
My girlfriend also bought a Galaxy S (the I9000, just for info) and me, considering myself a "veteran flasher" (but in real life, still being a tutorial-following guide monkey) told her "Hey, you know what - I can make your phone ten times better, just give it to me overnight".
So I prepared the phone... factory reset, etc. The 3-button combo didn't work (hmm, strange) but I looked around for a solution anyway - found one involving Odin, ADB and updating the bootloader, but since a lot of people bricked their devices this way, I skipped it.
I got the phone to boot into download mode via ADB and then started the guide to instal Darky's Ressurection Edition. Connected to Odin, the phone was recognized and added, then I started it and Odin spat out an ERROR message, then the phone was stuck at the "black screen of death" (a phone and a PC connecting).
So... why the hell did this happen?
I've already flashed my own Galaxy S so I've done this maybe even twice... got drivers, Odin, everything! What went wrong and can I even fix this or I gotta buy a new phone?
you can probably use a jig to get the phone back to download mode.
buy one on ebay or make one yourself. theres plenty of guides online for that.
as for odin having an error im thinking you might have a corrupt file? try downloading it again.
can you go into recovery mode or any 3 button won't work?
But why did you just dont installed the 3 button method which gives you the change to flash other roms e.g.
Yes you risk to brick but you also risk but in my mind much bigger to brick your phone without 3 button so if something went wrong you have the change to go with the 3 buttons to the recovery menu...
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Try getting the battery out for 1-2 seconds, put it back in and then try getting into download mode manually by holding first volume down+home and then also the power button.
If you can get into download mode, which is something I've found not to be pretty easy to erase, as it's independant from boot settings and files, all is still OK.
Yeah, I'll be out in the morning to buy the mats for a JIG, found a pretty easy guide how to make one, with pictures and everything.
The files being corrupt is something I didn't even think about, I'll re-download them if/when I manage to get the phone working.
Battery pull didn't do the trick, left it out of the phone for 4 hours, no dice.
After all, the phone is still under warranty and was recently 2.1 untill my gf updated it. Maybe I can tell that it's her fault, messing up Kies update or what? Then I'll get a free service/replacement, but I'll need a solid excuse to tell them. Any ideas? (yeah I know I'm an awful person but I can't afford a second Galaxy S, and the thought of giving her *my precious* because of my stupidity is just as awful)
rolfmao you made my day bro, my gf just bought a SGS as well but she saw me almost crying with the bricks i created, so as soon as i asked her if i could update her phone
she almost kicked me in the nutsack.
building a jig is pretty easy, you just need to practice touching the correct pins and you will be good to go.
as for the odin, it happends....i bricked my phone so many times
i just forced download mode and then reflashed with THE SAME FILES and it worked
my guess is that the connection is interrupted or something...causing it to abort or fail
FYI: Bricking means turning it to a brick, you can't revert from a "bricking"... Bad flash, ok! Black screen, ok! Brick, hum... if you can "unbrick", well, that's not bricking my friend!
All this to say the SGS is ALMOST unbrickable! With Jig, download mode, ADB, etc, there's so many way you can undo/redo things right!
You can say a lot of thing about the SGS, but the thing is made for developpers and flashers!
dikime said:
Yeah, I'll be out in the morning to buy the mats for a JIG, found a pretty easy guide how to make one, with pictures and everything.
The files being corrupt is something I didn't even think about, I'll re-download them if/when I manage to get the phone working.
Battery pull didn't do the trick, left it out of the phone for 4 hours, no dice.
After all, the phone is still under warranty and was recently 2.1 untill my gf updated it. Maybe I can tell that it's her fault, messing up Kies update or what? Then I'll get a free service/replacement, but I'll need a solid excuse to tell them. Any ideas? (yeah I know I'm an awful person but I can't afford a second Galaxy S, and the thought of giving her *my precious* because of my stupidity is just as awful)
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Build a jig and do it yourself. Then if you run into trouble in the future - hey! you have a jig, no problem. Warranty situation is a bit iffy, sometimes they see that you screwed it up yourself....
t1mman said:
FYI: Bricking means turning it to a brick, you can't revert from a "bricking"... Bad flash, ok! Black screen, ok! Brick, hum... if you can "unbrick", well, that's not bricking my friend!
All this to say the SGS is ALMOST unbrickable! With Jig, download mode, ADB, etc, there's so many way you can undo/redo things right!
You can say a lot of thing about the SGS, but the thing is made for developpers and flashers!
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Yeah, I know, but I read in another thread that if I get this screen AND can't get into download mode then I'm toast. That's why I used the word brick.
I decided I'll send her return the phone, equipped with her cutest and n00biest face so that they won't even think that there's a real idiot involved (me). And if they don't fall for that, I'll build a jig and try myself.
THIS IS WHY I HAVE NO GIRLFRIEND!!!
nah j/k!
But man... I didn't think you could actually brick the SGS. I mean, I always screw my rom up somehow, but the 3 button combos always work... Guess I'm just lucky... I'll try to be more careful from now on lol.
You bricking your SGS has taught me a valuable lesson! So thanks for that ^^
Sinotek said:
THIS IS WHY I HAVE NO GIRLFRIEND!!!
nah j/k!
But man... I didn't think you could actually brick the SGS. I mean, I always screw my rom up somehow, but the 3 button combos always work... Guess I'm just lucky... I'll try to be more careful from now on lol.
You bricking your SGS has taught me a valuable lesson! So thanks for that ^^
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LOL, np
Anyway, I just sent her to return the phone, maybe it's a common problem because the guy there didn't even listen to her explaining the crude story I made her tell ("PC froze and then rebooted itself while updating" - yeah right!).
They said it'll be ready next week (hopefully).
This also thought me a lesson - maybe even two.
1) Never try crazy stuff on a Galaxy S without 3 button combo working properly.
2) Always have a JIG ready for use
When she gets it back next week I'll see if the 3BC works and if it does - yeah, I'll try to flash a custom ROM again
Thanks for this highly amusing thread lol the moral is.....don't mess with the womans phone if you want to live AND love
GTi 9000 insanity007/insane glitch
dikime said:
I decided I'll send her return the phone, equipped with her cutest and n00biest face so that they won't even think that there's a real idiot involved (me). And if they don't fall for that, I'll build a jig and try myself.
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Best I've heard all day
But I must ask - how the ... did you manage to talk her into returning the phone herself...?? If that would have been me screwing up my gf's phone, she wouldn't let me in the house until I had fixed the darn thing myself.
I gave her mine - already heavily tweaked and loaded it with games like Plants vs. Zombies and Let's Create! : Pottery (she just loves that game). Plus I equipped MY cutest and n00biest face when I showed up to tell her the *cough* results.
This made my day. Apparently I thought only girls can put on a cute face and disarm anyone. LOL!
Regarding the brick, what I did was to repeatedly tried doing the 3BC then held all of it until the brick icon goes to download mode. Held it for 5minutes. No jig needed! If you keep it held down for some time, the phone resets itself. MAKE SURE THAT YOUR SGS IS CONNECTED VIA USB!
Good luck!
Sent using this XDA App thing from my awesome SGS
i think this is why all flash posts say make sure 3 button combo is working before you start... but I have had to use a jig to get mine back from the brink/brick once, almost made me cry as i needed my phone in 2 hours to meet up with friends
Oh yea... you will have to let us know what they said when she took it back. I am curious if they ask questions about how it got there and if they believed her... don't want to make things difficult in there but I know some companies who have products that are highly customisable (if "hacked like this") are suspicious of most software related problems
But getting the soft-bricked phone back to a new state with a new ROM would have been a great gift while returning the phone!
Dont u think so?
The whole idea was to get rid of the stock firmware and flash something epic ( in my case - Darky's 9.2).
They didn't ask her anything at the service centre so I/we got lucky with that, and even better - I formatted the internal SD card before flashing so even if the phone isn't hard bricked there won't be any evidence of software modifications (because I rooted the phone to backup everything with TB and to be able to put it in download mode via ADB).
Next week I'll report what happened and if I finally managed to flash a custom ROM (if not, expect a new thread: "Can't believe I bricked my Galaxy S... again!")

its a brick!!!

looking for a little help guys, not sure what has happened but i have just literally (in the last 30 minutes) installed rom manager, on running the software for the first time i got the run at your own risk message that comes up the first time and then it went to the menu...... and then the phone shut down and now wont turn on, doesnt register when i plug it in to the laptop or even when the charger is plugged in. please guys need some suggestions here as to how to make this brick work again!!!
many thanks
having tried several different ways to resolve this (pressing and holding home, vol down and pwr whilest inserting the battery being one of them), ive come to the conclusion that there is no coming back from whatever rom manager has done to my phone. thankfully the phone is still within warranty as its less than 3 months old so heres hoping that they will fix the damn thing!!!
Rom manager is a tricky app because it is known for bricking phones often.
Seems like your phone is dead.
Most user with similar prob like you had to bring the phone to the service.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1456946
As you are on warranty bring it there and wait till it is repaired.
Good luck.
Next time better do not work with rom manager.
thanks, yeah its weird cause when i had it on my x10 mini pro i had no issues - but clearly not the case here, oh well live n learn!!!
just as a sort of fyi i took the phone to my local t-mobile store here in liverpool and the guy behind the counter couldnt have been more helpfull, took the phone and arranged for it to be sent back to samsung for repair, even tried himself to make it work but to no avail. was most impressed with his 'can do' attitude and its not often that something like that happens!!!

[Q] Hard-Bricked G1

Hi there,
I fear I hard bricked my G1 (after long years of good service as gps device thanks to a 2600mAh battery).
Since it was quite slow on CM7, I downgraded it to CM6.1. But this would'nt boot. (boot loop)
So I did a bit of reading and decided to downgrade the radio too. I downloaded a flashable zip and flashed it the usual way in the CWM recovery - which didn't finish (after a few minutes), so I removed the battery.
Since then my G1 wont start any more. On top of that, it want event charge. If I try to charge it the status led wont event light up. (I already tried it with two different batteries, both yield the same results.)
Funny thing though: If I don't charge it and let it sit for a few hours, the status LED very shortly lights up when pressing the power button. (But other than this nothing happens and if I press the power button again shortly after the LED stays dead.)
So ... I fear the problem is hardware and not software related.
Does anybody have an idea what could be broken (software or hardware) and if it's software based if there's a way to revive my phone?
(Before anybody asks ... yes, I have newer android phones, but I really live my G1 for nostalgic value so if there a way to get it running again I definitely would try.)
thx a lot,
Bapf
Sounds like you need JTAG, and don't take this the wrong way, but flashing firmware isn't the usual way, its the way you brick your phone. If possible always use fast boot to flash firmware or you are asking for a brick.
You can buy the JTAG equipment yourself and the software is free. Or you can see if you can find someone locally to do it. Unless you have a particular sentimental value to this phone it maybe cheaper to buy a new one.... Sorry for bad news
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Bricked G1 - Try Again w/ SIM Card IN!
I had the exact symptoms mentioned in this post - tried nearly everything until I finally put back in the SIM card (even through I don't have T-Mobile anymore) - it booted again and registers the AC adapter and/or USB cable. Hope this helps some who are struggling at this level as I did!!
Bapf said:
Hi there,
I fear I hard bricked my G1 (after long years of good service as gps device thanks to a 2600mAh battery).
Since it was quite slow on CM7, I downgraded it to CM6.1. But this would'nt boot. (boot loop)
So I did a bit of reading and decided to downgrade the radio too. I downloaded a flashable zip and flashed it the usual way in the CWM recovery - which didn't finish (after a few minutes), so I removed the battery.
Since then my G1 wont start any more. On top of that, it want event charge. If I try to charge it the status led wont event light up. (I already tried it with two different batteries, both yield the same results.)
Funny thing though: If I don't charge it and let it sit for a few hours, the status LED very shortly lights up when pressing the power button. (But other than this nothing happens and if I press the power button again shortly after the LED stays dead.)
So ... I fear the problem is hardware and not software related.
Does anybody have an idea what could be broken (software or hardware) and if it's software based if there's a way to revive my phone?
(Before anybody asks ... yes, I have newer android phones, but I really live my G1 for nostalgic value so if there a way to get it running again I definitely would try.)
thx a lot,
Bapf
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I don't know if this will work,as I've never encountered a situation such as this, but have you tried bootloader(power button+camera button)?
If you can get it into bootloader, then I have the original rc29 DREAIMG.NBH file(plus, rc29 is the best place to start if you want to root it or install a custom rom).If you get it working and just want stock 1.6, i have those updates as well.
(all said out of hope, I have a g1 and I love it,I'm really glad that someone else shares my enthusiasm!!)
If bootloader works, give me your email and i'll send you the files, good luck!:fingers-crossed:
Nope. It won't even start the bootloader.
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Well thats unfortunite, I guess it's just for a soft brick.

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