Hello everybody.
I ordered my Nexus One yesterday- It's shipping right now. Can't wait!
But, I'm curious if it's worth unlocking the bootloader and installing Cyanogen Mod when it arrives. I know that unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty, and installing CM might brick the phone if I do it wrong, but I've heard CM adds some pretty good features. (Apps on SDCard, extra Live Wallpaper features, etc.)
So, is it worth it? Would appreciate any advice.
The only thing that could brick your phone is the radio update not Cyanogen Mod. I wouldn't recommend doing it till 2 weeks - a month after having the phone and making sure it works well
Are apps on Sdcard worth it to you? Extra live wallpaper?
How would we know what you rate as very important?
Do you think I should wear blue socks tomorrow?
christiankk said:
Are apps on Sdcard worth it to you? Extra live wallpaper?
How would we know what you rate as very important?
Do you think I should wear blue socks tomorrow?
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I was just asking what general features and reasons to upgrade to it over the Stock ROM. But to answer your question, I don't have it yet, so I can't really say much, but I do browse the web, download stuff/apps, listen to music, play games, etc.
christiankk said:
Are apps on Sdcard worth it to you? Extra live wallpaper?
How would we know what you rate as very important?
Do you think I should wear blue socks tomorrow?
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What about tethering, himem and other fixes??
faraz1992 said:
What about tethering, himem and other fixes??
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Yeah - what about them?
If OP finds it important, go for the ROM - otherwise don't.
Pretty easy, eh?
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I was just asking what general features and reasons to upgrade to it over the Stock ROM. But to answer your question, I don't have it yet, so I can't really say much, but I do browse the web, download stuff/apps, listen to music, play games, etc.
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It is good that you play games, however - if you don't state your needs how on earth can we help you?
I am hungry - should I eat McDonalds or KFC?
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What about tethering, himem and other fixes??
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I do find tethering important, and other fixes would be a good thing. But high memory...I never heard that part about the ROM, how does it give you more memory? (I know I sound like a noob)
MillyBays said:
I do find tethering important, and other fixes would be a good thing. But high memory...I never heard that part about the ROM, how does it give you more memory? (I know I sound like a noob)
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I gives more memory by utilizing memory the standard setup does not use.
This only really matters if you install a lot of apps and don't use apps2sd.
I suggest you search and read the forums more.
christiankk said:
I gives more memory by utilizing memory the standard setup does not use.
This only really matters if you install a lot of apps and don't use apps2sd.
I suggest you search and read the forums more.
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I do plan on installing quite a few apps...so that might be useful.
Anything else?
christiankk said:
I gives more memory by utilizing memory the standard setup does not use.
This only really matters if you install a lot of apps and don't use apps2sd.
I suggest you search and read the forums more.
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Actually that's not true.
The himem kernal frees up RAM while apps are stored on the ROM. The only correlation is if you have a lot of apps running more RAM will be helpful (speed) , but it doesn't apply to storing them
look its up to you guys but from my experiences i well never look back
the stock was laggy compared to CM
some of the apps you can get such as
auto memory
cm updater
droid wall (awsomest app eva)
metamorph
shootme (ok its not the best but pretty cool lol)
N1 Flash light
apps to sd
there heaps more but its also CM mod
like he has put a way to wake up the phone with the trackerball
best thing ever
change songs while asleep by holding the volume button
all the updates that will be coming to the nexus one (such as flash)
so dont worry bout that
The only downside is the whole voided-warranty thing. If you don't mind that (I don't - I unlocked my bootloader on day 1 with the N1), you LOSE nothing. There isn't even a risk of bricking your phone - CM doesn't touch the bootlaoder or the recovery, so you can always reflash CM or flash something else.
Unlocking the bootloader (regardless of ROM choice) lets you use a hacked recovery, which gives you backup and selective wipe options - a must for playing with your phone.
CM's ROM gives you faster performance, a faster update cycle, plus tons of cool features: root access included, trackball wake, himem, dalvik cache in /cache (frees up lots of app space if you don't use apps2sd). Plus, pretty much all of the kernel developers out there (IntersectRaven, Ivan, Pershoot, etc.) use CM's source for their overclocking and undervolting (improving performance while improving battery life) experimentation.
Yes its worth flashing for higher mem and other little goodies that come with the ROM. Had my phone for barely a hour and rooted it. Now i use cm updater whenever i want to use a newer ROM and im good to go. CM updater made the reinstall process super easy.
MillyBays said:
Hello everybody.
I ordered my Nexus One yesterday- It's shipping right now. Can't wait!
But, I'm curious if it's worth unlocking the bootloader and installing Cyanogen Mod when it arrives. I know that unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty, and installing CM might brick the phone if I do it wrong, but I've heard CM adds some pretty good features. (Apps on SDCard, extra Live Wallpaper features, etc.)
So, is it worth it? Would appreciate any advice.
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Yes.
It is.
I have yet to see a thread where someone says "OMFG I VOIDED MY WARRANTY FOR THIS CRAP? I WANT STOCK NEXUS BACK!"
of course, maybe I missed it....
I love the ability to play FLAC files on my Nexus with the CM
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Hi all, I just got my first Android phone (which is obviously the Nexus One) and I've gone through and set up some widgets, got apps, etc. I have a few questions.
Does running multiple widgets kill the battery faster?
(I guess that was really it).
Also, are there any really good getting started with Android guides out there? Maybe some mods you guys recommend (Cyanogen, etc) that really make this thing shine?
Thanks,
T.J.
I will second this topic, also a new user here. How to make that battery last?
catzilla said:
I will second this topic, also a new user here. How to make that battery last?
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http://www.myhangoutonline.com/tutorials/nexus-one
Follow those tutorials, Do #3, then #2, then #1. Enjoy!
depending on the Widgets used. The ones that always update can use a lot of the battery. Tbh though it all depends on what you do with your phone. In addition, searching the forums for what you want to do is the best way of figuring out how you want to pimp out your phone. Gl
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Follow those tutorials, Do #3, then #2, then #1. Enjoy!
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That's great, but too late, I am already rooted on Froyo.
I don't have Froyo yet, I'm on an AT&T N1. I do have a question about trying these different ROMs: what are the chances I'm going to permanently brick my phone? I'd hate to just pay $530 for this thing and then somehow cause it to stop working.
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Hi all, I just got my first Android phone (which is obviously the Nexus One) and I've gone through and set up some widgets, got apps, etc. I have a few questions.
Does running multiple widgets kill the battery faster?
(I guess that was really it).
Also, are there any really good getting started with Android guides out there? Maybe some mods you guys recommend (Cyanogen, etc) that really make this thing shine?
Thanks,
T.J.
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Juice Defender is a great app that is available on the Android Marketplace and is guaranteed to at least double your battery life. If you choose to purchase the full version, you get some advanced features which can lead to even more battery power.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614850
That link will take you to the guide that explains how to go from stock to cyanogen (or desire....personally I like cyanogen) with little effort, just make sure you follow the steps exactly, and read every step twice to ensure you understand it.
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That link will take you to the guide that explains how to go from stock to cyanogen (or desire....personally I like cyanogen) with little effort, just make sure you follow the steps exactly, and read every step twice to ensure you understand it.
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Oh, I can follow steps. I'm just afraid of changing the baseband/radio inadvertently or somesuch, and bricking the phone. Is there a good way to recover from something like that, if it happens?
just got my N1. is there HTC keyboard i can download and use?
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tjsimmons said:
Hi all, I just got my first Android phone (which is obviously the Nexus One) and I've gone through and set up some widgets, got apps, etc. I have a few questions.
Does running multiple widgets kill the battery faster?
(I guess that was really it).
Also, are there any really good getting started with Android guides out there? Maybe some mods you guys recommend (Cyanogen, etc) that really make this thing shine?
Thanks,
T.J.
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u can try this site aswell
http://theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/nexus-one-how-tos
just got my N1. is there HTC keyboard i can download and use?
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Yes there is and It's much better than the stock one, but I don't have a link. It's posted here somewhere.
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Oh, I can follow steps. I'm just afraid of changing the baseband/radio inadvertently or somesuch, and bricking the phone. Is there a good way to recover from something like that, if it happens?
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The guide includes the all-important step "Create a NANDROID backup" Should you run into major problems, thanks to your custom recovery, you'll be able to do a nand restore. But as long as you stay away from flashing radios on your phone you should be fine. A lot of people will tell you they aren't worth the risk, and the reward is often marginal, and I tend to agree
If we can only get this thing rooted and not fully unlocked, then will we still be able to have wireless tethering and overclocking, because I know in order to do that you need a modiffied kernel, Right? The only way to flash a new kernel is the same way you would flash a custom rom. Please correct me if I'm wrong!!!
You can still get wireless tethering if you only root yes.
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You can still get wireless tethering if you only root yes.
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But not overclocking, I believe.
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But not overclocking, I believe.
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I'm pretty sure you can overclock with just root. The Milestone can be overclocked, and that only has root.
thats good, so to me the only major reason why we would want to be able to flash different roms is so we can get the latest version of Androis ASAP! Otherwise once 2.2 hits the DX we only need root to do the other awsome things! I only care for Overclocking, wireless tethering, titanium backup, and deleting system apps, and a few other random apps requiring root!
What about modifying themes heavily?
Having using a Blackberry in the past, one of the best things about it was the fact that the main theme could be heavily modified, (and often very easily via quick downloads) to show such things as upcoming calendar events, missed calls, and the intros of recent texts and emails; all on one screen at the same time, as well as weather and time. I don't really need apps on my main screen as much as a proper log of what I've missed, is coming up, etc..
The "Today" theme, in its many variations is a common example.
Is this something that's possible just by being rooted? Is this possible without even being rooted? Do any Android phones that are fully hacked open even have the possibility to re-arrange their home screen in a such a way?
I've seen that a calendar and weather/time can be easily done, but I'm looking for something kind of like this (it would show newly unchecked emails and texts if there are any, and rolling over the calendar reveals upcoming events):
img202.imageshack.us/img202/6293/bbscreenshot3.jpg
Here's a similar type I also used, that is less minimalistic:
hulkster1970.com/theme/9000/v2/v2_13.jpg
Of course these I used on a much small BB Bold 9000 screen, so I can't imagine what the Droid X could do, if these types of modifications are possible?
Root enough for that? Fully unlocked enough? Just not possible, and I expect too much?
Thanks,
--bb
If that is the interface that your interested in, you should check out the home replacement Slidescreen, it has that kind of layout.
wireless tethering is the only thing I care for NOW.
maybe when Gingerbread comes out then I want some
Irishpride said:
If that is the interface that your interested in, you should check out the home replacement Slidescreen, it has that kind of layout.
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That's absolutely perfect. I will gladly drop $7 for that.
Thanks very much, Irishpride!
/That requires no rooting, or full boot access then? That's exactly what I'm looking for.
can a phone with root only access be flashed to other carriers such as cricket or would you need access to the bootloader?
By the way guys, P3 and Birdman are saying that this might take a very long time to get rooted if not never.
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That's absolutely perfect. I will gladly drop $7 for that.
Thanks very much, Irishpride!
/That requires no rooting, or full boot access then? That's exactly what I'm looking for.
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That is pretty cool. Kind of reminds me of my WinMo 6.5 home screen to be honest.
I thought the same thing.
@titanfan, My understanding is that rooting will not be especially difficult or easy, rather flashing custom ROMs will be nearly impossible due to the encrypted bootloader. In other words, the X will be in.the same boat as the Milestone since they share the same bootloader. Please correct if I am wrong
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@titanfan, My understanding is that rooting will not be especially difficult or easy, rather flashing custom ROMs will be nearly impossible due to the encrypted bootloader. In other words, the X will be in.the same boat as the Milestone since they share the same bootloader. Please correct if I am wrong
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Birdman said point-blank, 4+ months for root.
http://twitter.com/mrweeeedbirdman
"If you want a rootable phone, wait 4 months or so on your droid x." Posted July 9th at 11:18pm PST.
However, he's giving cryptic hints today that there's some big news coming about the Droid X. Maybe we're in luck.
Don't need root for BT tethering
BT thethering is already working out of the box with Windows 7 and Linux.
There is another thread in general I think where I've given some instructions. Don't need to pay for tethering.
Can we run SuperCharger on our phones? And if we can can somebody please give me instructions. I will be very thankful.
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Can we run SuperCharger on our phones? And if we can can somebody please give me instructions. I will be very thankful.
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Most folks here don't use that anymore and for good reason, the script does more harm than good. Most of the custom ROMs/kernels are pre-tweaked these days for the most part and a script like V6 tends to just clash with them. That being said, if you are still are determined to use it all you need is Script manager from Play. Download the V6 script and then run it using that app. At least make a nandroid so you can undo things if the results are undesirable for you.
Yea I just won't. But this phone is an OK phone but I want to try and squeeze as much ram and not to make it run behind like it does really well on slim bean 4.1.2 but I just want to get everything out of this phone as I can.
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Yea I just won't. But this phone is an OK phone but I want to try and squeeze as much ram and not to make it run behind like it does really well on slim bean 4.1.2 but I just want to get everything out of this phone as I can.
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Try Auto Killer to manage the RAM, it's about as good or better than anything. Just always keep in mind that with only 512mb of RAM and less than 360mb usable RAM you will never get a lag free experience unless you use a Gingerbread ROM.
ArtfulDodger said:
Try Auto Killer to manage the RAM, it's about as good or better than anything. Just always keep in mind that with only 512mb of RAM and less than 360mb usable RAM you will never get a lag free experience unless you use a Gingerbread ROM.
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Really? While you do make some good points, I'd have to disagree with you about a couple of things. First off, using auto killers isn't a good idea with Android, period. They do more harm down the road, causing instabilities in the ROM and apps. There are several write-ups about this around the web - just search and you'll find them. Secondly, even the stock TouchWiz GB is slow and laggy, as is Peach Sunrise and all the other GB ROMs. Sorry, but it's true. Some ROMs might seem okay, but when it comes right down to it, Jelly Bean has been a major improvement in overall speed. I'm sure if you put 2 Exhibit's side-by-side with stock Gingerbread and a vanila JB AOSP (such as SuperNexus), compared the speed and responsiveness, the JB device would win hands-down.
There are ways to help with the performance of this phone, however. There's a whole thread dedicated to it right here. Something not mentioned there because that thread is a little dated, is the beautiful app known as Greenify. Essentially, what Greenify does is freeze/unfreeze apps on-the-fly. It's a similar method to how you do it with Titanium Backup or other apps that can freeze apps, but Greenify does it in such a way that the apps don't disappear from the launcher, and will unfreeze them as soon as they're opened. When they're frozen, they won't take up precious RAM, CPU cycles, and won't drain the battery. Due to it's nature of freezing apps, it's not recommended to use Greenify on the launcher, live wallpapers, icon packs, or anything you use widgets with. All other apps (especially Facebook) are fair game. Good luck!
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Really? While you do make some good points, I'd have to disagree with you about a couple of things. First off, using auto killers isn't a good idea with Android, period. They do more harm down the road, causing instabilities in the ROM and apps. There are several write-ups about this around the web - just search and you'll find them. Secondly, even the stock TouchWiz GB is slow and laggy, as is Peach Sunrise and all the other GB ROMs. Sorry, but it's true. Some ROMs might seem okay, but when it comes right down to it, Jelly Bean has been a major improvement in overall speed. I'm sure if you put 2 Exhibit's side-by-side with stock Gingerbread and a vanila JB AOSP (such as SuperNexus), compared the speed and responsiveness, the JB device would win hands-down.
There are ways to help with the performance of this phone, however. There's a whole thread dedicated to it right here. Something not mentioned there because that thread is a little dated, is the beautiful app known as Greenify. Essentially, what Greenify does is freeze/unfreeze apps on-the-fly. It's a similar method to how you do it with Titanium Backup or other apps that can freeze apps, but Greenify does it in such a way that the apps don't disappear from the launcher, and will unfreeze them as soon as they're opened. When they're frozen, they won't take up precious RAM, CPU cycles, and won't drain the battery. Due to it's nature of freezing apps, it's not recommended to use Greenify on the launcher, live wallpapers, icon packs, or anything you use widgets with. All other apps (especially Facebook) are fair game. Good luck!
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Actually I have the answer courtesy of Hatememarkez. NOS script: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158329
As I just posted over in the Pacman thread amazingly I was able to get Gnow, Maps, Poweramp and Boat Browser running at the same time and my phone did not freeze up. No lag even. I'm in shock right now with the hell I've been through with this phone.
I know about Greenify but frankly I don't think it does much as I didn't get battery improvement or performance improvement out of it. Reason being your biggest resource eater in JB are Google apps. Greenify won't keep them hibernated. Seeder helps a little bit, but just a little.
On those GB ROMs, forget Peach. I'm talking about RebelROM and CM7. They are the fastest ROMs we have for this phone, just my opinion as I've used about everything that is offered for this phone. Although right now Baked Bean in conjunction with NOS is kicking major a** so I may have to amend my comments. Thing is I've been burned every time I say something like that so who knows. If a week from now things are the same, then it's V-day!
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Actually I have the answer courtesy of Hatememarkez. NOS script: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2158329
As I just posted over in the Pacman thread amazingly I was able to get Gnow, Maps, Poweramp and Boat Browser running at the same time and my phone did not freeze up. No lag even. I'm in shock right now with the hell I've been through with this phone.
I know about Greenify but frankly I don't think it does much as I didn't get battery improvement or performance improvement out of it. Reason being your biggest resource eater in JB are Google apps. Greenify won't keep them hibernated. Seeder helps a little bit, but just a little.
On those GB ROMs, forget Peach. I'm talking about RebelROM and CM7. They are the fastest ROMs we have for this phone, just my opinion as I've used about everything that is offered for this phone. Although right now Baked Bean in conjunction with NOS is kicking major a** so I may have to amend my comments. Thing is I've been burned every time I say something like that so who knows. If a week from now things are the same, then it's V-day!
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Do you know if NOS script would work with slimbean 4.1.2?
it should just read the thread and do a backup
smartguy044 said:
it should just read the thread and do a backup
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Thanks for your reply. Also, do you happen to know how the tweaks in NOS script differ from V6?
i have no idea. i only used v6 once and the was a few phones ago when i had the note
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Thanks for your reply. Also, do you happen to know how the tweaks in NOS script differ from V6?
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Read the two threads to compare but far as I'm concerned the difference is that NOS actually works for the ROM and not against it. It's also MUCH easier to install than that cumbersome script V6 uses.
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Read the two threads to compare but far as I'm concerned the difference is that NOS actually works for the ROM and not against it. It's also MUCH easier to install than that cumbersome script V6 uses.
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I would read the threads but I'm an amateur at this stuff, so I'm can't really understand the jargon yet. I'm looking into trying NOS though; how can I check my busybox version?
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I would read the threads but I'm an amateur at this stuff, so I'm can't really understand the jargon yet. I'm looking into trying NOS though; how can I check my busybox version?
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Just open the Busy Box app and it will tell you. If you install updates from Play you should have the latest version though.
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Just open the Busy Box app and it will tell you. If you install updates from Play you should have the latest version though.
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Thanks. I looked from the busybox app and it only lets me install up to 1.20.2. The NOS script requires 1.20.4?
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Thanks. I looked from the busybox app and it only lets me install up to 1.20.2. The NOS script requires 1.20.4?
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Look closer, it's 1.21.0. If not you need an update from Play.
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Look closer, it's 1.21.0. If not you need an update from Play.
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I was using the wrong busybox app from the play store.... haha thanks a bunch
The model number is N900A. I did get my phone through AT&T. I've heard that there are some serious problems rooting and installed roms etc through AT&T and Verizon. The Note 3 is my first Android device and I would have to say I'm in love with this phone. What I'm not in love with are all these apps and other nonsense running in my background. I hear rooting and installing different roms can solve this. I have used Clean Master from the app store to clear cache and free up RAM, but moments later these same apps open right back up. The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps. I did put some music and bought one app to change the icons on my phone. When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
Other thoughts would be:
How much RAM will I free up by rooting(assuming of course it's possible)and installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel? I'm looking for simplicity. Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM, and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
I'm hoping some of this information helps someone help me. I'm currently running 4.3. I've also researched some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.
I have a Att&t and I'm rooted.....No problems 4 days or more battery life and love it!
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I have a Att&t and I'm rooted.....No problems 4 days or more battery life and love it!
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That's great, glad to hear it. Care to point me in the direction of the method you used to do so? Would prefer a simple step by step tutorial/video. Also, are you able to run any roms/mods?
IcyRhythms said:
That's great, glad to hear it. Care to point me in the direction of the method you used to do so? Would prefer a simple step by step tutorial/video. Also, are you able to run any roms/mods?
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if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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if you still want to root look in the general section on here for kingo to do custom roms go to development section and look for bootstrap make sure you read and know what you are doing before doing it you can mess up your phone
for beenolem
jerrycoffman45 said:
if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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It would be nice to remove them completely. There is so much pre-installed software on this phone that I can't be certain what should or shouldn't be turned off.
Just want the basics. Facebook, text, Gmail, phone calls, and the play store to work and I'm good.
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It would be nice to remove them completely. There is so much pre-installed software on this phone that I can't be certain what should or shouldn't be turned off.
Just want the basics. Facebook, text, Gmail, phone calls, and the play store to work and I'm good.
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turning them off makes the phone think they are removed the good thing about it is it will not allow you to turn off anything critical all the att stuff can be turned off and i edited my post above
jerrycoffman45 said:
turning them off makes the phone think they are removed the good thing about it is it will not allow you to turn off anything critical all the att stuff can be turned off and i edited my post above
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Thanks again
The Kingo Root seems very simple. Think I'll do that and then maybe look into some roms.
jerrycoffman45 said:
if you just want to keep apps from loading you can go under setting general application manager and select the app you want click it and pick turn off
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if you still want to root look in the general section on here for kingo to do custom roms go to development section and look for bootstrap make sure you read and know what you are doing before doing it you can mess up your phone
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You mentioned bootstrap. I don't see bootstrap when doing a search. I only see Safestrap.
Safestrap is the method used to install custom roms...bootstrap was prolly an auto correct typo. Just follow the Safestrap method 100% and you should be good. When you pick a rom make sure you read the 1st post throughly and entirely. ..Most roms come with all the att/samsung bloat ...you will prolly still have to weed through and disable them. Good luck and have fun
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Safestrap is the method used to install custom roms...bootstrap was prolly an auto correct typo. Just follow the Safestrap method 100% and you should be good. When you pick a rom make sure you read the 1st post throughly and entirely. ..Most roms come with all the att/samsung bloat ...you will prolly still have to weed through and disable them. Good luck and have fun
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Thanks for that. Do you know if CynogenMod 11 is supported on the Note 3/AT&T?
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You mentioned bootstrap. I don't see bootstrap when doing a search. I only see Safestrap.
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thats it auto correct got me
IcyRhythms said:
Thanks for that. Do you know if CynogenMod 11 is supported on the Note 3/AT&T?
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You have not read about safestrap yet have you? You can't really flash anything to this phone but safestrap gives you sort of a work around at the cost of internal or external SD card space. As for CM11, that is a big no. Only slightly modified stock like ROMS work right now and as I said they are not truly flashed to the device. Safestrap lets you set your phone up sort of like a dual or multi boot PC. At boot up you pic which of up to four ROMS you want it to use.
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You have not read about safestrap yet have you? You can't really flash anything to this phone but safestrap gives you sort of a work around at the cost of internal or external SD card space. As for CM11, that is a big no. Only slightly modified stock like ROMS work right now and as I said they are not truly flashed to the device. Safestrap lets you set your phone up sort of like a dual or multi boot PC. At boot up you pic which of up to four ROMS you want it to use.
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Any word on if/when that will be a possibility?
Also, meant to ask earlier(it's also a little too late since I've already done it)does using Kingo Root disable Samsung/AT&T updates like KitKat?(still blows me away that KitKat has yet to release for this phone on AT&T)
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The Note 3 has 2.4GB of RAM available, correct? I haven't put much on this phone in the way of apps.
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Nothing to do with RAM. RAM is where apps run. When you install an app it gets installed to storage (think of storage like the hard drive on a desktop computer).
When I check Clean Master, I'm always using between 1.6-1.8GB of RAM. Thinking to myself, "what is the purpose of Clean Master if all of these annoying apps just open themselves back up?"
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In Windows, the more free RAM you have, the better. In Android, any unused RAM is wasted RAM. As soon as you free up some RAM, Android's memory manager is going to load something in the newly freed space. RAM cleaning programs are a waste of battery, a waste of time (both yours and the computer's) and a waste of storage (the space they're stored in). Android has a great memory manager - let it do its thing.
How much RAM will I free up by rooting
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None. You'll be using storage to store su, busybox and SuperSU. Rooting has nothing to do with RAM.
installing a fairly simple ROM to change the overall look and feel?
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Install Nova Launcher. It's an app, not a ROM, so there's no warranty issue, no bricking issue and it's a welcome change from the monkey-designed TouchWiz. (The old joke that if you sat a million monkeys at a million typewriters for a million years, eventually they'd have written all of Shakespeare's works? They'd also have written TouchWiz.)
Just want something that works, doesn't eat a lot of my RAM
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The amount of RAM an app uses is determined by the app, not by the ROM or the launcher (which is the "look" of the phone when you turn it on).
and isn't known for a lot of bugs/issues.
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The stock ROM works, doesn't use that much storage (I collect apps like junkyard dogs collect fleas, and I have just a hair under 29GB of free internal storage - and a lot of junk apps I have to uninstall, because I just downloaded to help people. And as far as bugs go ... I haven't seen any in general (I had to return 2 Note 3s and one of the ones I have now, which is a refurb, may also have to go back - but that's all hardware issues). If you want looks you change launchers and lock screens. (And there's a lot you can do with the settings to make things look different.)
There's really only one reason to root - because you need (or really want) to run an app that needs root permissions.
There's really only one reason to run a different ROM - because it has features that you want that the stock ROM doesn't.
All the rest is experimentation, fun and watching geniuses (and there are a lot of them on xda) at work. But remember, rooting alone voids the warranty. ROMming not only voids the warranty, it can mess up your phone. Is it $700 worth of fun? That's for you to decide. Rooting (as long as you don't use root status to mess anything up) is safe. ROMming, not so much. Still fixable - in most cases - but the first time you're stuck in a boot loop, you'll panic longer than it takes to reflash the phone.
some of the positives and negatives of rooting and installing roms. It seems worth it if I can free up some RAM
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If you run Kit Kat you'll free up some RAM, but the official update will be out soon anyway
and get rid of all these apps and such running in the background.
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Turn them off.
People are taking molehills and making Olympus Mons out of them. There are so many much simpler solutions to so many of the "problems" people want to "solve" by rooting or changing ROMs.
Oh, I forgot one other very important reason to root, and as a child of the 60s it should have been the first one to occur to me - sticking it to the man.
Thanks for all the help to those that responded. The last reply in particular would have been very helpful had a I not jumped the gun yesterday. I rooted my phone yesterday. DIDN'T try anything else like new themes/roms. Just rooted the phone. After about an hour the phone having issues. Freezing. Apps not opening. Then, I unrooted. Haven't had a freeze since, but the phone is still doing odd things it wasn't doing before. Apps appear to be taking longer open etc...I went to send a text message about an hour ago and when I clicked on the text to begin typing the big envelope icon covered the entire screen looking very pixelated. ugh....
I bought an HTC Desire 510 few months ago cause my Xperia ARC died (was the best phone I ever had).
Now I am very disappointed with the HTC 510, mainly cause of it's awful operating system bundled by google ALL OVER the place
The user interface is a one big disaster, so much annoying and unnecessary stuff... besides the annoying bloatware (parental control app? srsly?)
I really wanna root this phone and change it's OS to those similar of gingerbreed, cyanogen etc but I don't know how to do this with my current phone
and don't even know what custom operating systems are available for the model I have.
What annoys me about the user interface:
*Often lowers the earphone music volume without my permission then gives me this annoying warning that making it higher will damage my hearing - srsly?
*Screen tends to lower it's lighting and back again by itself while I use the phone
*A button at the bottom of the menu that looks like a "home logo" will open somekind of useless google page each time I drag that button up by mistake.
*Terrible and irremovable Gallery app, not to mention it displays images in uncomfortable way, it also features a slideshow which often plays automatically without me asking it to each time I enter a photo album.
*Poorly made irremovable alarm clock app
*Other forced google apps installed on my phone which i don't use and can't just get rid of
*Bad just bad option of organizing apps, well for me atleast, back on my Xperia ARC I used to organize my apps by "commonly used apps" feature, went great, here it's just wacky, it doesn't do it automatically after you set it to organize the following way. So I find myself surfing through all the useless apps to find the app I need at the app menu.
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
horrific google product
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Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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VigiDroid said:
Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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Beggars can't be choosers. Of course this person is trying to be both.
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I bought an HTC Desire 510
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
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doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you.
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Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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All I can say (and I never said it was easy) is for you to subscribe to all of the HTC 510 Forums and start reading thru the threads. In your case, the most helpful one being this one..."Help & Troubleshooting" if you can not find answers to your particular questions then I would assume that means we just aren't there yet. This is a pretty new device after all. I wouldnt know about themes being I am on custom ROM and that is not an option. You should maybe go for the Unlock and root your phone method. Try out some of the ROMs available. I believe that will alleviate many of your issues since the stock ROM that came with these units have multiple issues. Many of them are the same ones you are experiencing. I wish you well and Read, Read, Read.
Good Luck
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Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now? I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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You should definitely read through the forums if you haven't so far. I have read/skimmed every thread here about our phone and I almost have no questions or concerns except for some ideas for a couple of issues that haven't been brought up yet or just not yet done.
I only use Sense Home or Dodol Launcher and they both don't have the option to sort by last used, check out Nova, Apex, or some other launcher.
As far as the update is concerned, you can follow this post by LarryBoyG, if you plan to stay on stock. I'm sure a custom ROM will be built that includes the update, unless everyone just wants to wait for Lollipop.