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How OFF is OFF-TOPIC?

Help me define. Simple HOW OFF is Off-Topic?
Does anyone know...?
lol... give your best shot.. IQ

LEGO comes to mind.
I never see people here helping each other build cool lego models..

So in other words, you're asking what's OFF Limits in a OFF-TOPIC section? Hmmm .... threats of any kind, damning or belittling(sp?) someone else's religious or political beliefs, making fun of people physical/emotional/psychological disabilities even if it's your friends or family member. Promoting racism, child porn, child abuse, advocating violence, and supporting rape is a definite no no and barbaric in my book. Making fun of someone's grief over a death of a friend or family is also barbaric.
Or how off limits can you be Off Topics section without being banned? As some say, the sky is the limit, but here, the limit is the sky, lol. Child rearing and relational issues are within the bounds in this section, which I haven't heard much about here. But who knows

aftershock said:
Help me define. Simple HOW OFF is Off-Topic?
Does anyone know...?
lol... give your best shot.. IQ
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Your previous post, sending people to survey links would definitely be off limits. Creating threads for free webhosting sites over and over again would also be off limits. Spam is something we try to avoid. Members help by alerting mods to these types of posts. Violators can be warned or banned, depending on the severity of their actions.
I'd also agree with the things robosiris said earlier, as we'd like to keep this forum a friendly place for all to enjoy.
Other than that, off-topic is pretty open. Lego Mindstorm projects would be a great topic

...so off-topic isnt really Off-Topic? or is Everything aother than xda phones
NOT SPAM JUST READ ON...( For MODERATOR )
or is anything other than xda phones, softwares and gadgets considered as SPAM. Yes i do agree maybe I erred since I was kinda "zit" where the "limit" of Off-topic was concerned, no one would expect it to be so ENTIRELY "LIMITED"...
I STRONGLY agree 1000% with "robosiris" stuff like that should NEVER be tolerated... and commend XDA moderators+ for being swift on posts and for implementing this feature in their Administration.
Ok then, is it better to QUIT Off-Topic? Since "Off" is not yet defined...
SINCE the statement below contradicts the usual statements i get... "your topic is not related to phones, etc..... always about xda phones... and so on..."
Then IS THAT "Off-Topic"? yet according to Alex (moderator)... Of-topic is Defined...as pretty much Free..
""Your previous post, sending people to survey links would definitely be off topic. Creating threads for free webhosting sites over and over again would also be off topic. Spam is something we try to avoid. Members help by alerting mods to these types of posts. Violators can be warned or banned, depending on the severity of their actions.
I'd also agree with the things robosiris said earlier, as we'd like to keep this forum a friendly place for all to enjoy.
Other than that, off-topic is pretty open. Lego Mindstorm projects would be a great topic ""
MOD...(ALEX) Help Me... Determine what i did wrong... then "zit" THIS Post..

aftershock said:
NOT SPAM JUST READ ON...( For MODERATOR )
or is anything other than xda phones, softwares and gadgets considered as SPAM. Yes i do agree maybe I erred since I was kinda "zit" where the "limit" of Off-topic was concerned, no one would expect it to be so ENTIRELY "LIMITED"...
I STRONGLY agree 1000% with "robosiris" stuff like that should NEVER be tolerated... and commend XDA moderators+ for being swift on posts and for implementing this feature in their Administration.
Ok then, is it better to QUIT Off-Topic? Since "Off" is not yet defined...
SINCE the statement below contradicts the usual statements i get... "your topic is not related to phones, etc..... always about xda phones... and so on..."
Then IS THAT "Off-Topic"? yet according to Alex (moderator)... Of-topic is Defined...as pretty much Free..
""Your previous post, sending people to survey links would definitely be off topic. Creating threads for free webhosting sites over and over again would also be off topic. Spam is something we try to avoid. Members help by alerting mods to these types of posts. Violators can be warned or banned, depending on the severity of their actions.
I'd also agree with the things robosiris said earlier, as we'd like to keep this forum a friendly place for all to enjoy.
Other than that, off-topic is pretty open. Lego Mindstorm projects would be a great topic ""
MOD...(ALEX) Help Me... Determine what i did wrong... then "zit" THIS Post..
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I've changed my post to read 'off-limits' instead of 'off-topic' in two key areas, which should hopefully make more sense.
It was late and I didn't realize I was using the same words to explain myself, which tends to lead to a very confusing response

i simple do not know and even do not care what is in and what out - off topic.
but .... am glad to have a place where i can relax and read some other stuff than all about htc devices.
this is where i go when i need to get three steps back and after a while again move forwards install applications, customize, soft reset, hard reset, browse and read off topic, install applications, customize, soft reset, hard ... ;-)
cheers

What is Off-topic ?

No offense meant to anyone. But why was this thread closed ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609557
It wasn't posted in the wrong section. It is the definition of off-topic. It wasn't political. It wasn't racially or ethnically offensive. It wasn't obscene. Just because one ( again no offense ) didn't like it ?
I guess this begs the bigger question, what is the exact definition of off-topic that Mods use to decide on closing a thread ? What is too off topic. And is it a group decision to close a thread or is it a personal one ?
I have seen a lot of off....off....off topic threads in this section allowed to run their course and die ( " ...who here likes melon ? .....) Just wondering what is the definition and what is too far ?

As I felt that our discussion regarding the above-noted thread did not end on a positive tone, I took it upon myself to discuss my action of closing the thread with Flar ... as she is one of the Administrators of XDA, and ultimately should have a final word on what content should be permissible.
I remain firm that the thread should remain closed as it will simply serve to instigate a "flamewar" session amongst fellow XDA members or encourage comments that could be construed as a personal attack on Tiger Woods behaviour as depicted by the media.
That said, I am additionally concerned that closing the thread may also communicate a form of censoring as you implied - which is certainly not my intention. After my discussions with Flar, we have agreed to re-open the thread with the caveat that it not deteriorate into a personal attack on Tiger Woods or fellow XDA members.

Here is the relevant excerpt from our conversation
hilaireg said:
Hi denco7,
My intention was certainly not to offend you or to "sensor" the Off-Topic forum. I felt that no positive or constructive outcome would come from this thread.
Regards,
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denco7 said:
Don't get me wrong, I was neither offended nor did I think that you were censoring anyone's rights to their opinion.
There have been a lot of way of topic threads that have turned into fun little conversations. Getting personal insights and opinions on things from people who you usually interact with on a purely technical basis, let's you know people a little bit better and gives you an additional perspective on people. I think that is what off-topic is all about and there for. I don't think anyone is loking for anything constructive out of these threads, just fun.
I have always thought that moderation should be done in moderation. And if you thought that that violated the forum rules for off-topic, I thought that maybe it was time to start a conversation on what exactly off-topic was for and what content is too off-topic. And it wasn't just that particular thread, so I hope you weren't offended .
Cheers
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I have little interest in Tiger Woods' sex life or his moral make up. The only problem that I have is with " over moderation " In a semi public forum ( privately owned , but open to the public ) , as long as a thread does not violate forum rules, it should be allowed to run it's course and die a natural death. It is a public statement and the trashing of the thread , because one person objects to it's content or sees into the future that it " might " go awry, is censorship. I am however pleasantly surprised and most impressed that you were concerned enough to discuss it with Flar and return the threads. You have my utmost respect for doing the " right " thing despite your personal trepidations.
All that being said, let's get to my point in starting this thread. What is everyone else's opinion on what the off-topic thread should be. Aside from obvious offensive material like politics , war , race, ethnicity, porn, should we be allowed to discuss anything or just phones, HTC, or electronics.
What do people think off-topic should be, and what do you think is too off-topic

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Bye
Simone

To answer your question as to what is off-topic? This thread certainly counts. You win the prize!

Should the EU be dissolved?

There many reasons to disolve the EU and/or remove the Euro. Countries cant compete, extreme debt, loss of sovereignty.
What do you think?

I think this thread's gonna get closed
My two cents xD

That would cause instability in the political legislation already set forth by EU members.
More dismay and frustration from the citizens of EU.
Also no direct political threads. It's bad like to asters
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Seraz007 said:
I think this thread's gonna get closed
My two cents xD
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This is not a political thread. The EU is by definition not a political union. This thread is about asking an open opinion. Nothing to rage over something, its not politics.
I am not discussing here whether the greens, the blues or the reds are right, just what people think.

shadowcore said:
This is not a political thread. The EU is by definition not a political union. This thread is about asking an open opinion. Nothing to rage over something, its not politics.
I am not discussing here whether the greens, the blues or the reds are right, just what people think.
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There is a difference between "definition" and "reality".
It is technically a political union since they agree mutually to legislate laws governing certain states of independent nations.
I like EU laws, they are the basis for today's modern political framework which are adapted by other countries. Like the EU data protection act and EU citizen censorhip act.
It's a waste of good mutual cooperation if it will get disbanded which is most likely not happening.
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shadowcore said:
This is not a political thread. The EU is by definition not a political union. This thread is about asking an open opinion. Nothing to rage over something, its not politics.
I am not discussing here whether the greens, the blues or the reds are right, just what people think.
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Sorry, but the EU is a political body. It is just not a Nationalistic body, however, the newspaper will show that there are still some pretty nasty squabbles going on that have there origins in old Nationalistic self interests, ideals, stereotypes etc.
So it is best for me to put on my Dictator Costume, crack my riding crop on my oh so shiny boots and close this thread.

Why are the moderators for the most part on XDA so damn awesome and good looking?

The mods here are awesome. They are pretty much good fellows and lady who read and make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find more mods with similar attitude. They warn for all the right reasons and not for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the future. You will force other trolls like me to go elsewhere where we don't feel harassed by stupid emails from outstanding mods that protect the site from people like me . (Grammar here was so horrendously bad that I just had to do away with it. Ironically, this bit was about mods having "bad English").
I shall now take my non constructive gibberish elsewhere.
Standing by to be judged

travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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ZOMGBBQSAUSE!!1!!111!
I feel so offended now. I will quit my moderating duties as of midnight plus one minute tonight...Thanks you, OP...you have opened my eyes and have given so much to this commu....just kidding!
Next time PM the Mods about your many concerns and how retarded we all are and maybe, maybe we'll reply to you!1
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That is not fair, some of us wear helmets. And there are times, that I do misspell/typo regarding the English language, but we don't always go #fullretard. But judgment, well is coming...:laugh:
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travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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Hmmmm. Let's take a look at a sampling of some of your "constructive" criticism:
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No you asked for someone to spoon feed you how to install an OS. Go read a book or google it you lazy idiot. Damn.
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would you make it so we can have stock look instead of the clownie cartoonish icons for battery.
Rom is nice the look is like my 11 year old did it.
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travis82 said:
ummm phiz is cwm.. No is no such things as stupid questions.. Just stupid people... I think you fall in to that category mate.
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I can assure you that English is my first language, and the above posts do not look like constructive criticism to me...

travis82 said:
where children don't moderate.
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Tough luck sweetheart, you're wrong there. I happen to be the youngest moderator at 19. I believe I'm classed as an adult by both UK (where I live) and US law. Adults moderate this forum, not children.

If I only hazed some branes, I could "make judgement well." :crying:

@KennyG123 did a retard say spidey....yes this retard did...

Well well.... I find your lack of Moderator love disturbing....
Cause we love you! ❤

We're trying our best, why you gotta hurt our feelings? :crying:

travis82 said:
Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground.
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:silly:
travis82 said:
I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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Thank you... Oh look, 1000 new users just joined.
We'll be here when ya'll get back

travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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Are we going to run it "in to" the ground or "into" the ground? I'm confused now You have me re-evaluating all the choices I made in life. Perhaps I shouldn't have become a mod... Then again, if they are all retards and simple things like "in to" and "into" confuse me so, perhaps I'm where I should be after all
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I dont know if you can read or not but i used the search this thread box and got 53 hits on this thread about camera bugs why not use the tools the forums have instead of clutter up a thread with useless posts because you are to Fing lazy to search. Every time a member doesn't use the search button his penis shrinks.
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Oh yeah! I see lots of "constructive criticism" by hypocritically cluttering the thread further with a personal attack by both calling a member "fing lazy" and telling them that their penis is shrinking. Then you want to go and talk about immaturity? LOL Your profile states you're 32.. Could have fooled me with a response like that as I'm 32 myself
Sounds like you need to re-evaluate your life good sir.
How about people being able to speak in English? Apparently you can't read English:
2. Member conduct.
2.1 Language: XDA is a worldwide community. As a result, what may be OK to say in your part of the world, may not be OK elsewhere. Please consider who is reading what you write and don't use profanity, sexually explicit language, rudeness or swearing including the use of characters to replace letters in swear words. Conversely, while reading posts from other members, remember that the word you find offensive may not be offensive to the writer. Tolerance is a two-way street.
2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing and this does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is unacceptable. Treat new members in the manner in which you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instructions when you can, showing them respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
2.4 Personal attacks, racial, political and / or religious discussions: XDA is a discussion forum about certain mobile phones. Mobile phones are not racial, political, religious or personally offensive and therefore, none of these types of discussions are permitted on XDA.
It looks to me that you like to attack others for violating the search rule yet you feel it's ok to violate the rest so long as you feel it's justified.
These were rules you agreed to when joining XDA. If you need a translator to help you understand the rules that are already provided to you in the English language, I will direct you to one here: Help! I can't read!
What XDA needs are members who follow the rules and treat everyone they speak to with respect. You're doing us a favor here so allow me to show you the door: kan i pleez haz ban nao?
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travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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Would you like some cheese with that whine?
The above is probably the closest thing to proper English you have posted.... Ever! How long have YOU been taking English as a second language?
And thanks for the compliment on calling this 54 year old a child!
Member gets scolded with mild warning
Throws tantrum
Who is a child?
Threatens to leave!
$$$
Profit!

travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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I ride a horse so he speaks the english for me.
You should get a horse also. Also, my horse is pretty good at harassing tools when they start whining about, oh, what is it you're whining about? Personally, my horse would like all whiners to go to some place other than here. That way he can eat more trolls.
Oh, did I mention I ride a horse???

Speaking of horseys... @pstevep

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travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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Seriously, though instead of making yet another one of these types of threads, please act like a civilized person and contact the moderator or moderators in question that you are supposedly having issues with. If you feel, that certain moderators are not doing their jobs to your satisfaction, contact the Moderator Committee.
or
If this website is too much for you to tolerate, do what "others" are doing and find another website.

travis82 said:
The mods here are retarded. They are pretty much morons who can't read or make judgement well. This xda forum needs to find some better mods with some brains. They warn for no reason even for constructive criticism. Sorry to say with mods like that you will run your forum in to the ground. You will force others to go elsewhere where they don't feel harassed by stupid emails from retarded mods that don't know wtf they are talking about most the time. Half of them English isn't there first language. So wtf are they doing moderating an English forum then? I'll move to another forum myself where children don't moderate.
Good bye and good luck
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@travis82 - while you did not go about this in such a way as to provide constructive criticism or to receive good conversation in return, you do in fact bring up interesting points. (See there? A nicely structured sentence! I WIN TEH INTERWEBZ!!!!!! GIEF ME COOKIES NAO!!!) The most interesting is the point you make about warning for no reason (which is interesting in and of itself since the warning box is supposed to be populated WITH a reason), even with regards to constructive criticism (I took the liberty of ENGLISHIZING (that's a thing) your statement so as to make more sense).
So to that end, I ask that you contact me via PM, or the Moderator Committee, to submit your complaints and we will certainly look into them. We welcome constructive feedback (SWIDT?) from our community on how we can do better.

[HELP] Question regarding the highly viewed thread

Hi,
I see threads here that appear one next to each other - one with 30 views and the other ones are with 700k views. How does it work? Are there times people visit XDA forums more? What do people do to get such high views rates?

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Are there times people visit XDA forums more? What do people do
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Indeed there are. Thread views are largely generated by the interest in the thread topic, with members visiting the same thread several times per day. So what you're seeing is very common.

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Indeed there are. Thread views are largely generated by the interest in the thread topic, with members visiting the same thread several times per day. So what you're seeing is very common.
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TY! I didn’t realize people were visiting a thread a couple of times a day.
I have two more questions please if may I:
In the apps threads, what are the people who visit them more than once are looking for? @[email protected] I thought that only the ones who create the threads are interested to see more traffic and so they are the only ones who visit their own threads more than once.
And the second question: who are the people who use XDA Forums? I’m not exactly aware of different societies among people overall.
Are those people mostly from US? Those forums are in English but US AFAIK is more of an IOS country. What do people find in Android? For me it’s a professional matter. I don’t know how others perceive Android. When I was a computer enthusiast (tech hacker) Android did not exist and I was concentrated in my university and high school studies. Ages I guess are Gaussian between 20-40. But I’d love to know more about the demographics here a little bit if possible . Up to the permitted level of course.
And I thought of one last question that interests me if possible, once again I’m just curious don’t judge me if my questions sound weird, I’m just learning. In the conversations that flow here in the topics, what makes people react to something that someone said? For instance why does a person reacts to an app that has been published in here instead of planning a trip abroad during that time or traveling between the cities on the public transport for instance? What makes XDA win his or her heart in that battle?

I'll try and answer your questions as best I can.
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In the apps threads, what are the people who visit them more than once are looking for? @[email protected] I thought that only the ones who create the threads are interested to see more traffic and so they are the only ones who visit their own threads more than once.
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There are various reasons for this, mostly interest and participation in any thread are why members visit a thread a few times a day since discussions and questions are always fluid depending on various opinions and solutions.
vitalipom said:
And the second question: who are the people who use XDA Forums? I’m not exactly aware of different societies among people overall.
Are those people mostly from US? Those forums are in English but US AFAIK is more of an IOS country.
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XDA members total around 10 million world wide from virtually every country you can think of, and range in ages from 12 - 80+ as seen in my travels for 11 years on the site. And do not assume the US is just IOS country, that might get you some interesting replies on the forums. While there are many IOS users on this site as well, the predominant discussion has always centered around Android and the modification of devices since it's just plain fun to do. If you want to know more about XDA's history, have a look here.
vitalipom said:
And I thought of one last question that interests me if possible, once again I’m just curious don’t judge me if my questions sound weird, I’m just learning. In the conversations that flow here in the topics, what makes people react to something that someone said? For instance why does a person reacts to an app that has been published in here instead of planning a trip abroad during that time or traveling between the cities on the public transport for instance? What makes XDA win his or her heart in that battle?
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The only answer I can give on that one is, human nature and freedom of choice. That is akin tho the old "Ford vs Chevy" discussion that I have seen all my life in the US over 62 years. People like what they like and do what they do because they can plain and simple. And that's about the extent of my philosophical knowleged. Hope I annswere your questions, and have a great day.

Badger50 said:
I'll try and answer your questions as best I can.
There are various reasons for this, mostly interest and participation in any thread are why members visit a thread a few times a day since discussions and questions are always fluid depending various opinions and solutions.
XDA members total around 10 million world wide from virtually every country you can think of, and range in ages from 12 - 80+ as seen in my travels for 11 years on the site. And do not assume the US is just IOS country, that might get you some interesting replies on the forums. While there are many IOS users on this site as well, the predominant discussion has always centered around Android and the modification of devices since it's just plain fun to do. If you want to know more about XDA's history, have a look here.
The only answer I can give on that one is, human nature and freedom of choice. That is akin tho the old "Ford vs Chevy" discussion that I have seen all my life in the US over 62 years. People like what they like and do what they do because they can plain and simple. And that's about the extent of my philosophical knowleged. Hope I annswere your questions, and have a great day.
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Thank you so much!!!
Feels exciting as much as in my very first job. So kind explanations. Deepest thank you. I got a much better idea of what is going on in XDA.
Kindly thanks for the warm welcoming .