So about a week ago i flashed the super eclair beta 3.0 on my MT3G.
it was working fine till one day i noticed my battery started over heating and the rom got really choppy.
than my battery died.
so i got a new battery
but tht wasnt the problem because i flashed a new rom and the same problem keeps happening
is there any solution?
and another is this in the rite place to post this?
sorry im new at this
firstly, wrong section
secondly....are you overclocking your phone? running huge amounts of programs? using wifi-tether or some other high-data throughput applications?
if you answered yes to any of these - stop
Moved as not Android Development.
I am almost certain as to what this could be. My guess is that the ROM you are using has the 10MB RAM hack, and you are using an app of some kind using 3D rendering. This will cause almost the same issues.
garok89 said:
firstly, wrong section
secondly....are you overclocking your phone? running huge amounts of programs? using wifi-tether or some other high-data throughput applications?
if you answered yes to any of these - stop
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that's not going to really do anything, man. my phone is constantly overclocked, and running a lot of applications. it stays on the charger more than it does off.
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I am almost certain as to what this could be. My guess is that the ROM you are using has the 10MB RAM hack, and you are using an app of some kind using 3D rendering. This will cause almost the same issues.
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i knew that made the battery die, didn't know it caused overheating? none-the-less i very much doubt it's overclocking or running applications. yes, it probably could cause it to overheat, but not so quickly and as intensely.
garok89 said:
firstly, wrong section
secondly....are you overclocking your phone? running huge amounts of programs? using wifi-tether or some other high-data throughput applications?
if you answered yes to any of these - stop
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Well its not really the battery
its more like the bottom of the phone near the track ball
Subu said:
Well its not really the battery
its more like the bottom of the phone near the track ball
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And that would be the location of the CPU.
Nothing to do with the battery.
Take the suggestions noted. Do not overclock. Do not wifi-tether.
The stock peak CPU speed is 384 MHz. Seems that most roms like to clock it over 500 MHz. There's a REASON why the stock speed is 384!! The faster it spins, the more power runs through it and the more HEAT it produces. If you want to run the thing that fast, you need MORE COOLING.
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Does running an overclocked kernel drain your battery faster? I figured it would since it's running faster, but not really sure. Sorry if this was talked about in one of the OC threads, but I couldnt find the answer.
It most certainly will. As you suspected.
virtualkaos said:
Does running an overclocked kernel drain your battery faster? I figured it would since it's running faster, but not really sure. Sorry if this was talked about in one of the OC threads, but I couldnt find the answer.
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It will, but not signicantly. Your screen is the single biggest user of battery power.
Since CPU is working faster, battery is getting a bit faster drained.
But yes, screen is the most important problem.
virtualkaos said:
Does running an overclocked kernel drain your battery faster? I figured it would since it's running faster, but not really sure. Sorry if this was talked about in one of the OC threads, but I couldnt find the answer.
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Only if your CPU is actually working at those speeds (or you have an android device running a ported kernel that it isn't designed to run).
Example, my Vibrant is mildly OC'd to 1.2GHz, it uses no more battery life through out the day than it did without overclocking, unless I'm doing a lot of stuff like playing games or multitasking and using that CPU power.
Cyanogen 8? Is this next? Or is this in the works? Also is 2.3.5 next and would it be numbered a different version when Ice Cream comes out? Also is anything coming from the devs to overclock to 800 yet?
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Also is anything coming from the devs to overclock to 800 yet?
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It's been done. So very very few phones are even stable at 800, and those that could generally performed worse in benches at 800 than at lower clocks. Many of these devices bootloop above 700.
Cyanogen 8 will not come out yet since will most likely be ice cream sandwich. I am not even sure is 2.3.5 will even come out and no the devs can not overclock this device to 800mhz because is 768 is the limit of the processor. Most people's phones do not even run that smoothly at 768 anyways. If somehow the dev found a way to overclock it to 800 (impossible btw but this is just a what if kind of statement) since the processor can not handle 800 it would just overheat the thing and cause crashes.
Also, on a side note, this should not be in the Development section. This should be in general or Q&A
This belongs in Q&A for future reference.
CM8 will be next, obviously. It will be based on Ice Cream Sandwich, so no, it won't be in development until ICS is released to AOSP so that the CM team can start using that code. 2.3.5 is an update coming out soon for the Nexus S 4G that fixes wifi and network speed, as well as adding more secure NFC for Google Wallet. It won't really affect us when it is merged into CM7. ICS is expected to be Android 4.0, but it could be 3.5 if Google decides.
There is a kernel that goes over 800Mhz, but anything over 768Mhz can be unstable on some phones. I tried it and there were no real performance gains, but battery life was a lot worse. Performance was actually worse at the highest CPU clock, in my experience. Just stick with 768Mhz. It's stable and chances are that you can get even better performance at a lower clock. I get better battery and performance at 633Mhz. It all depends on each unique phone.
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Cyanogen 8 will not come out yet since will most likely be ice cream sandwich. I am not even sure is 2.3.5 will even come out and no the devs can not overclock this device to 800mhz because is 768 is the limit of the processor. Most people's phones do not even run that smoothly at 768 anyways. If somehow the dev found a way to overclock it to 800 (impossible btw but this is just a what if kind of statement) since the processor can not handle 800 it would just overheat the thing and cause crashes.
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I lol'd at this statement. Did you not read any of the posts above you?
When i began to post there were no posts yet. They must have got posted while i was typing. So seeing as the only post at the time was the op, then yes i did read the post(s) above mine.....
There is a kernel that goes over 800Mhz, but anything over 768Mhz can be unstable on some phones. I tried it and there were no real performance gains, but battery life was a lot worse. Performance was actually worse at the highest CPU clock, in my experience. Just stick with 768Mhz. It's stable and chances are that you can get even better performance at a lower clock. I get better battery and performance at 633Mhz. It all depends on each unique phone.
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I can confirm that the Godmode kernel was able to push some phones, such as mine, past 800Mhz. Although I had a faster processor speed, my battery would drain incredibly fast as well as overheat. Even though I never hit a bootloop with the kernel, the battery life, overheating, and loss of performance kept me away. Sacrificing too much for having a faster processor speed. Normally I overclock to about 729Mhz and have great battery life, speed and performance in conjunction with a min of 19Mhz and a smartass governor.
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I can confirm that the Godmode kernel was able to push some phones, such as mine, past 800Mhz. Although I had a faster processor speed, my battery would drain incredibly fast as well as overheat. Even though I never hit a bootloop with the kernel, the battery life, overheating, and loss of performance kept me away. Sacrificing too much for having a faster processor speed. Normally I overclock to about 729Mhz and have great battery life, speed and performance in conjunction with a min of 19Mhz and a smartass governor.
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Thanks. I am glad someone at least confirmed it. I never knew about the godmode kernel as ive only been here for a little bit. Sorry for misinformed post about their not being an 800mhz kernel. As I can see, i was wrong, but also I was correct in saying that the processor can not handle it....sometimes
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Thanks. I am glad someone at least confirmed it. I never knew about the godmode kernel as ive only been here for a little bit. Sorry for misinformed post about their not being an 800mhz kernel. As I can see, i was wrong, but also I was correct in saying that the processor can not handle it....sometimes
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Yup, I'm at 806 - 19 ondemand while posting this and I can already feel it slowing down a little. 729 - 19 on demand is my best setup. I've tested a lot with trying higher setups than that but so far 729 seems to be the best for battery life and performance on every rom I've ever tried
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rubyknight said:
Yup, I'm at 806 - 19 ondemand while posting this and I can already feel it slowing down a little. 729 - 19 on demand is my best setup. I've tested a lot with trying higher setups than that but so far 729 seems to be the best for battery life and performance on every rom I've ever tried
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For some reason my phone never works well with higher clock speeds no matter what rom or kernel i use. I get my best results at 710-352 performance.
In before bierce gives birth over ANOTHER question being in the dev section
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rizdog23 said:
For some reason my phone never works well with higher clock speeds no matter what rom or kernel i use. I get my best results at 710-352 performance.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've noticed is that newer Hero's that were sold with Eclair as opposed to the original Donut, when I bought mine, are not able to reach those higher processor speeds past 691Mhz.
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i bought mine at radio shack back in september and it was still on 1.5 and ive never been able to get over 768mhz without it freezing and bootlooping its different with every hero.
i stay at 352-691 ondemand and thats plenty fast for me
Mine was running 1.5 also and it will run fine at 768 but battery life suffers so I usually run at 352/710 and battery and performance are good (depends on rom kernel)
Where can I get the godmode kernel ....
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I actually got mine two weeks after it came out.....so i mean it could just be that this phone is dead now. I never had a refurb or anything. I got it wet once but it got repaired. I've only had this one the whole time. Do you think that is the issue?
rubyknight said:
Yup, I'm at 806 - 19 ondemand while posting this and I can already feel it slowing down a little. 729 - 19 on demand is my best setup. I've tested a lot with trying higher setups than that but so far 729 seems to be the best for battery life and performance on every rom I've ever tried
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Hey rubyknight,
just wondering why 19? Ive seen people do that but can the processor really ever do anything at 19? if so, doesnt it affect stuff like wake. Im trying it now just to see for myself. Ive been playing with a really high min value between 480 and 576 with the high at 748 and it actually doesnt only seems to affect battery life a little, both on the .29 and .35 kernels on jaybobs roms and on OMFGB.
Thanks
chalan30 said:
Hey rubyknight,
just wondering why 19? Ive seen people do that but can the processor really ever do anything at 19? if so, doesnt it affect stuff like wake. Im trying it now just to see for myself. Ive been playing with a really high min value between 480 and 576 with the high at 748 and it actually doesnt only seems to affect battery life a little, both on the .29 and .35 kernels on jaybobs roms and on OMFGB.
Thanks
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It depends on the cpu governor that you use.
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It depends on the cpu governor that you use.
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so update, ive run it at 19/768 on demand all day and after 11hrs 13 min its at 60% thats not bad for my phone! and there was almost no performance difference. Just the slightest UI lag... this is on jaybobs 7/8 with the .29 kernel, with background data off. And my regular usage which is not a lot. but for me its good. i wish I had tried it ages ago.
chalan30 said:
so update, ive run it at 19/768 on demand all day and after 11hrs 13 min its at 60% thats not bad for my phone! and there was almost no performance difference. Just the slightest UI lag... this is on jaybobs 7/8 with the .29 kernel, with background data off. And my regular usage which is not a lot. but for me its good. i wish I had tried it ages ago.
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I believe that you can set the ramp up frequency and that may help with the lag. Setcpu, advanced settings, I think?
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Hi guys!
Thanks for all the time and work put into these ROMS.
I love the Zero Hero rom and would love to use it as my daily but for me it runs at a very slow speed. Seeing alot of lag on phone calls.
Is there anything I can do to speed up this fantastic ROM?
Close a lot of the running apps. Don't use a lot of widgets either. Sense is a huge memory hog and doesn't multitask well with the hero.
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Close a lot of the running apps. Don't use a lot of widgets either. Sense is a huge memory hog and doesn't multitask well with the hero.
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Mine is slow from the fresh install....no addons, no apps, etc. Is the kernel overclocked? Or how can I overclock the cpu with this ROM?
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Mine is slow from the fresh install....no addons, no apps, etc. Is the kernel overclocked? Or how can I overclock the cpu with this ROM?
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The kernel that in used in this rom can be overclocked, but you'll need SetCPU (available from the market) to set the frequences. I'm sure there are other methods, but this is how I control the cpu.
good cpu setting is 710\352 on demand. works well with Zero
Also try set sampling rate to 200000. Yes two hundred thousand. And the up threshold to 50%
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Hi everyone. I have never rooted my Bionic, but have always been disappointed in my performance. I bought it on launch day and just stuck with it, and it has been a huge disappointment ever since.
Well, I think I may have come across a reason for the disappointment. I ran the benchmark test Quadrant.
My first run? 1700.
My second? 1200.
I said, whoa, hold on a minute, people were getting 2200-2500 on stock when the thing launched.
So I did a factory reset, and after the last three runs of Quadrant I'm getting about 1400.
Something is seriously wrong. I installed CPU spy and nothing seems too out of the ordinary. Yet these scores are worse than the Nexus S, and that's just crazy. I know the Bionic is a better phone than that.
Is there a hardware problem with my phone causing these low scores? What do you think I could do to fix this?
Which version are you on?
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Which version are you on?
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5.9.905, which is the latest OTA firmware.
I just ran it and got 1465, and I've noticed that my Bionic has gone to hell lately. Poor battery life and overall poor performance. I would love help with this!
Edit: Using CPU Spy I found that when my phone isn't in deep sleep, it spends the large majority of its time at 300mhz, almost no time at 600 or 800mhz, and a small amount of the at 1000mhz that is significantly less than the time at 300mhz. Is the problem that my Bionic for some reason is getting stuck at a lower speed?
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5.9.905, which is the latest OTA firmware.
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Well there are 3 things that could be contributing to this; your microSD, your choice of apps, and/or not using your built-in task manager to stop apps that are wasting memory.
But it's worth noting that Quadrant Standard won't show you the individual scores, so it is a poor tool for diagnosing problems. I suggest that you also not go by other peoples scores. They may be using mods that you aren't.
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Well there are 3 things that could be contributing to this; your microSD, your choice of apps, and/or not using your built-in task manager to stop apps that are wasting memory.
But it's worth noting that Quadrant Standard won't show you the individual scores, so it is a poor tool for diagnosing problems. I suggest that you also not go by other peoples scores. They may be using mods that you aren't.
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As I said in my post, I did a factory reset. Everything was wiped off the internal storage. No rogue apps. The only thing installed was the benchmark itself. I also tried the benchmark without the microSD to no avail.
And also, the scores I have read have been from day one purchasers of Bionics on stock. I ignore anything that does not specify that it was achieved on stock, and everything I have seen has been 2000+.
There is no reason my Bionic should be scoring 1400 and lower.
You should root your phone, it gives you things you wouldnt have dreamed of!
Don't know what to tell you...just got a 2683 in Quadrant on. 2333 ICS leak on my Bionic (though mine was bumped to.1.2Ghz with the leak).
Total 2683
CPU 3770
Mem 3008
I/O 3145
2D 1000
3D 2414
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As I said in my post, I did a factory reset. Everything was wiped off the internal storage. No rogue apps. The only thing installed was the benchmark itself. I also tried the benchmark without the microSD to no avail.
And also, the scores I have read have been from day one purchasers of Bionics on stock. I ignore anything that does not specify that it was achieved on stock, and everything I have seen has been 2000+.
There is no reason my Bionic should be scoring 1400 and lower.
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After the factory reset, when you logged in to your account, did you log into more than one?
Also, was it by chance downloading things like mail in the background? Try disabling all sync and even putting it in airplane mode and then see.
Also, how much charge on your battery? Remember that stock BIONIC settings also have that delicious night mode settings as well....
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Hi,
im on stock rom, with bootloader unlocked and root installed. my deivce is still very hot even after system configurations, so id like some advice on how to tweak the kernel or improve performance, make it not overheat, install custom roms or delete system apps and so on.
Ive tried uninstaller system applications or bloatware, tweaking the kernel with CPU Tuner, installing and configuring the L Speed app, who i was someone had awesome resaults with here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/themes-apps/one-to-tweak-apps-l-speed-t3350288
i only get around 2 hrs of screen on time with my deice, and a lot of heat, i saw it over 80 degrees yesterday...
id like some good optimization and battery life for the device, as im not able to do so now...
thanks in advanced
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Hi,
im on stock rom, with bootloader unlocked and root installed. my deivce is still very hot even after system configurations, so id like some advice on how to tweak the kernel or improve performance, make it not overheat, install custom roms or delete system apps and so on.
Ive tried uninstaller system applications or bloatware, tweaking the kernel with CPU Tuner, installing and configuring the L Speed app, who i was someone had awesome resaults with here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/themes-apps/one-to-tweak-apps-l-speed-t3350288
i only get around 2 hrs of screen on time with my deice, and a lot of heat, i saw it over 80 degrees yesterday...
id like some good optimization and battery life for the device, as im not able to do so now...
thanks in advanced
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Well try to install the latest firmware .244 is not that much hot. I'm using it for the past 8 hours ?
njaya95 said:
Well try to install the latest firmware .244 is not that much hot. I'm using it for the past 8 hours ��
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Ive been using that firmware sins the day it released (a weak ago almost)? but no change there...
what i have done now is done some heavy modifications to the kernel and some CPU governors.
I flashed this Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/development/kernel-andropluskernel-t3392772
the kernel works like a dream after under-clocking it with this program: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor&hl=no
Used the "alucard" governor, CPU is sitting around 60 degrees when using the camera, and its a bit laggy, but much more survivable that it was before...
This Kernel is the best you can do, perhaps you can try to deactivate one or two of the big cores.
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Ive been using that firmware sins the day it released (a weak ago almost)? but no change there...
what i have done now is done some heavy modifications to the kernel and some CPU governors.
I flashed this Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z4/development/kernel-andropluskernel-t3392772
the kernel works like a dream after under-clocking it with this program: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor&hl=no
Used the "alucard" governor, CPU is sitting around 60 degrees when using the camera, and its a bit laggy, but much more survivable that it was before...
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I never tweaked anything but mine is only hot when I play heavy games and record video for more than 20 mins (720p)
Anyway your lag is too much or just a little bit???
And one thing I use stamina mode whenever I'm about to do something CPUy
So try it without tweaks and tell me what's the result.
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thanks ill try that!!
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I never tweaked anything but mine is only hot when I play heavy games and record video for more than 20 mins (720p)
Anyway your lag is too much or just a little bit???
And one thing I use stamina mode whenever I'm about to do something CPUy
So try it without tweaks and tell me what's the result.
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I get the stamina thing, id do that too if i did not need the screen brightness
The laggs are not small, im talking CPU om 80 degrees an so hot that i can not touch top backside of the phone
and thats withou any tweaks on MM .244 with everything stock. Ive also tried it with root, but really that does not make any differense, i need to edit the kernel to be able to use the camera, or else it will shut down when recording in 720p.
Anyways, underclocking the device for me, actualle made it faster in my case, i have no idea why makes no sense, but there is no throtteling and cpu struggles when underclocking it, so now it relly smooth, a lot smoother than on stock .244 MM,
Hope it help!
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I get the stamina thing, id do that too if i did not need the screen brightness
The laggs are not small, im talking CPU om 80 degrees an so hot that i can not touch top backside of the phone
and thats withou any tweaks on MM .244 with everything stock. Ive also tried it with root, but really that does not make any differense, i need to edit the kernel to be able to use the camera, or else it will shut down when recording in 720p.
Anyways, underclocking the device for me, actualle made it faster in my case, i have no idea why makes no sense, but there is no throtteling and cpu struggles when underclocking it, so now it relly smooth, a lot smoother than on stock .244 MM,
Hope it help!
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Okay i'll try underclocking and let you know what happened here.
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Okay i'll try underclocking and let you know what happened here.
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thank! would like to see what others get as resaults !
have u had any heating issues as well?
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thank! would like to see what others get as resaults !
have u had any heating issues as well?
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Well it gets hot but I don't mind about the heat, I'll throw it in a glass of water or inside the refrigerator if it's too hot [emoji48] . And I didn't underclock it. It's still running stock governor.
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Well it gets hot but I don't mind about the heat, I'll throw it in a glass of water or inside the refrigerator if it's too hot [emoji48] . And I didn't underclock it. It's still running stock governor.
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I dont mind the heat as well, but it is throttling in my day to day use applications, that's what's bothering me?