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Hi there
I'm a newbie and wondering how much I'm missing out on by sticking with the stock ROM my HD came with. Could I be experiencing better, faster performance, improved features, etc, etc with a cooked ROM, or are the differences actually pretty marginal and just for those who really enjoy modifying and customising their device?
I know I will lose my ability to call up HTC and complain if something goes wrong with my HD whilst I keep the original ROM, so I'm just trying to gauge whether the benefits of changing to a cooked ROM are worth it. I don't see myself changing ROMs a lot, but I'd love better performance and there are quite a few features of original software that bother me.
Thanks for any advice!
Daniel
ordinary people used ordinary thing...
dkwalsh said:
Hi there
I'm a newbie and wondering how much I'm missing out on by sticking with the stock ROM my HD came with. Could I be experiencing better, faster performance, improved features, etc, etc with a cooked ROM, or are the differences actually pretty marginal and just for those who really enjoy modifying and customising their device?
I know I will lose my ability to call up HTC and complain if something goes wrong with my HD whilst I keep the original ROM, so I'm just trying to gauge whether the benefits of changing to a cooked ROM are worth it. I don't see myself changing ROMs a lot, but I'd love better performance and there are quite a few features of original software that bother me.
Thanks for any advice!
Daniel
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In my experience cooked roms are cooked so they are better, more stable, have less issues & bugs, have faster performances & improved features. Thats the whole point, plus you can always revert back to stock rom anytime you want as all are available to download from the wiki
cooked roms are alot better imho, obviously depends which 1 you go for, a lite 1 will make your phone alot faster, some are feature-packed and so on.
I am currently using a cooked rom but if ever i needed to return to HTC i will put original rom on it.
Cooked is definitely the way to go. Especially if you run one of the many roms available from our own great chefs here at XDA. They are always more stable and way faster than stock roms. Plus, if you are worried about warranty and such, it is always completely reversible
You have to at least try one! If you need information on how to do it look at the guide in my signature or read the wiki. Cheers!
A long time ago a galaxy far far away, I too was a purist always stuck with stock ROM but one day I woke up and smelled the coffee and jumped ship since then I have never looked back! cooked rom is the way to go!. yes you may get one rotten apple but that doesnt mean the rest are bad far from it! I have been flashing rom's back and forth since my TyTN days and I can tell you this much, HTC or any other OEM could a learn a thing or two from the fine Chefs that have graced their presence in XDA over the last couple of years!!
As they say "don't be shy give it try or you will never know"!!!
Well, I'm convinced. Thanks for the opinions, and here goes....!
well this is only one way only once you flashed the cooked ROM then you have to continuously flash it as long as it is continued, means you will be addicted and you have to flash each new ROM that comes out, so your device will become the lab for testing new ROMs , any how you will like it that way.
ehsanij said:
well this is only one way only once you flashed the cooked ROM then you have to continuously flash it as long as it is continued, means you will be addicted and you have to flash each new ROM that comes out, so your device will become the lab for testing new ROMs , any how you will like it that way.
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im agree wit it....
especially when u flash, try to find a most suitable ROM for your usage....
[ stonedge = ordinary people used ordinary thing... ]
will when find it when u eat from chef cooking ROM here ...
- Faster
- More functional
- Fun to do (flash-aholic here )
ehsanij said:
then you have to continuously flash it as long as it is continued, means you will be addicted and you have to flash each new ROM that comes out
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Word!
The reason I have put off flashing my ROM is because there are so many I really have no idea where to start?
I just want a good ROM which makes my device faster, more stable, and look better. Any ideas?
ScarySquirrel said:
The reason I have put off flashing my ROM is because there are so many I really have no idea where to start?
I just want a good ROM which makes my device faster, more stable, and look better. Any ideas?
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Same here.
Im waiting for a cooked WM 6.5 based on an original release.
Wasnt WM 6.5 supposed to be officially released yesterday on Microsofts TechED?
Cant find anything about it on the net...
ScarySquirrel said:
The reason I have put off flashing my ROM is because there are so many I really have no idea where to start?
I just want a good ROM which makes my device faster, more stable, and look better. Any ideas?
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I only have experience with duttys 2.x and Miri's roms since 5.x
Dutty has wm6.1, miri wm6.5 as the base, I personally like to have the newest stuff...
Dutty has a lot of stuff packed together which is also quite nice, but.. like I said, I rather go with the newer stuff. Miri's rom is not too barebones (hasn't ripped everything possible away, which could cause instability), the ROM has not crashed once - I like the miri 10.0 premium running on my HD at the moment.
Oh yes, I also had problems with dutty's data connections, for some reason it kept cutting my irc session in a couple of minutes. It was a pity, because the selection of already included apps was nice. And has gotten nicer all the time.
Well, others can tell about the other ROMs, I don't have *that* much interest in just toying around with all possible ROMs.
The decision to try miri's rom as my first wm6.5 was based solely on the fact that his thread on the forum had at most postings :-D
abe
nizzon said:
Wasnt WM 6.5 supposed to be officially released yesterday on Microsofts TechED?
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Yes, it will probably be some time yet before device manufacturers begin rolling it out with their hardware...
anssibragge said:
I only have experience with duttys 2.x and Miri's roms since 5.x
Dutty has wm6.1, miri wm6.5 as the base, I personally like to have the newest stuff...
Dutty has a lot of stuff packed together which is also quite nice, but.. like I said, I rather go with the newer stuff. Miri's rom is not too barebones (hasn't ripped everything possible away, which could cause instability), the ROM has not crashed once - I like the miri 10.0 premium running on my HD at the moment.
Oh yes, I also had problems with dutty's data connections, for some reason it kept cutting my irc session in a couple of minutes. It was a pity, because the selection of already included apps was nice. And has gotten nicer all the time.
Well, others can tell about the other ROMs, I don't have *that* much interest in just toying around with all possible ROMs.
The decision to try miri's rom as my first wm6.5 was based solely on the fact that his thread on the forum had at most postings :-D
abe
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For me memory management is very important i have tested all the roms and flashed all the new roms till now Miri's rom is the best for me it is fast and hardly you reach to 50% of memory usage with tons of software installed, i know lots of people likes duty's rom but for me when i load it easily it reached above 50% of memory then after using gps and other heavy applications it reaches up to 90% that makes the device unstable, that was my opinion
Fallen Spartan said:
In my experience cooked roms are cooked so they are better, more stable, have less issues & bugs, have faster performances & improved features. Thats the whole point, plus you can always revert back to stock rom anytime you want as all are available to download from the wiki
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Cooked ROM Vs Stock ROM:
Faster: Agree
Improved features: Agree
Better: Depends on the quality of the cooked ROM
More Stable: Not for most of the time
Less Issues and Bugs: Not really the case
But flashing cooked ROM is really fun and addictive. However, I usually end up flashing back to a tweaked stocked ROM for daily use.
Well, I just installed Dutty's 3.3 ROM, and I have to say that so far it is so much better than the stock one. He's fixed a bunch of things that had been giving me the sh1ts about the original one.
Now I'm tempted to see what Miri's 10 is also like...damn, I'm hooked!
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Well, I just installed Dutty's 3.3 ROM, and I have to say that so far it is so much better than the stock one. He's fixed a bunch of things that had been giving me the sh1ts about the original one.
Now I'm tempted to see what Miri's 10 is also like...damn, I'm hooked!
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....and now it begins, the continuous flashing!!!!!
I've stayed away from anything Manilla for months now. I was tired of a sluggish interface. However I was thinking about giving it another shot to see what our fantastic chefs were able to do it it. So in everyone's opinion what is currently the FASTEST 2.5 rom out there that uses the WM 6.5.5. Any input would be much appreciated.
Oh and another thing I was curious about. Another reason I stopped using it was because it didn't really cooperate well with Iconsoft Phonex. Does anyone know if they clash still? (One example of a problem i had was HTC favorite contacts wouldn't go through to place a call when clicking a contact)
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I am asking for speed, that is something measurable. I remember people would ask these all the time and quite often there was a general consensus like "Try Touch X Final. Its super fast!" or "Oh man! spikegotti's UnOff series is the best!"
So i was just wondering if there was a specific ROM that most people had more success with than others. If you don't have an answer or are annoyed by the thread I am sorry, but no one is forcing you to post an answer. I was just looking for anyone that had legitimate input. I'd prefer not to completely waste two days flashing every single ROM only to find out that i still dont really like manilla
Well, then do some research on your own. You know, users talk about how they felt the speed is like in threads of different roms. Have a look what rom appeals to you and then read some comments...would not be bad, would it?
I agree with other people, but I would also advice to start your searching from Valkyrie TR 6.0.28232
Try Valkyrie's rom. In my opinion it's fast,stable and you have all needed applications preinstalled
To help your case:
click the link in my signature. There are pretty good, fast, stable and bug-less roms on that blog. Also you could try blaze or valkyries like it has been mentioned already.
So except Valkryie is there another ROM that has Sense 2.5 and stable...Thanx a TON!!
I've just installed this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637679
and its quite good so far.
Touch-IT BR 21893
I've flashed this one awhile ago and its working perfectly for me. So fast and stable but i disabled HTC messaging, u can search for the cab here in the forum... Cheers!
Go for Rotastrain's Blaze!
It's fast and stable, and any bugs are usually dealt with immediately.
SonyXperia said:
I've just installed this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637679
and its quite good so far.
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Does the battery drain, also do u have the SOD(Phone freezing after sleep mode) and more than that, is it stable??
I genuinely recommend NRG's Energy Leo 23541 build - i've been using it for just over a week and it is simply amazing; with all my own apps added to the plethora of USEFUL apps already installed, it still flies along at top speed.
Note: Best practise is always to flash the ROM, then hard reset (Press the reset button whilst holding down the two front buttons under the screen) - this ensures best speed/stability!
See the ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
Baring in mind i'm a tight b****rd; i have actually donated for this ROM. That says something!!
FingAZ.
dalgibbard said:
I genuinely recommend NRG's Energy Leo 23541 build - i've been using it for just over a week and it is simply amazing; with all my own apps added to the plethora of USEFUL apps already installed, it still flies along at top speed.
Note: Best practise is always to flash the ROM, then hard reset (Press the reset button whilst holding down the two front buttons under the screen) - this ensures best speed/stability!
See the ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
Baring in mind i'm a tight b****rd; i have actually donated for this ROM. That says something!!
FingAZ.
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dONT U get the SODs???I hvae heard that u have to update the radio also..im not very sure if i want to do that....
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Does the battery drain, also do u have the SOD(Phone freezing after sleep mode) and more than that, is it stable??
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Hi,
My battery doesnt drain any faster with this ROM installed I get normal battery life.
Not sure about hte SOD issue you speak about.. if you mean does the phone freeze after I've unlocked the screen lock then no I generally havent experianced any freezeing on the phone since installing this ROM so basically I find it very stable.
I am a Tilt 2 user... I have been playing with alot of the different roms out there and i find them all to be very similar. I dont know what the difference is in Manilla, and Sence. I kinda fingured out what HTC messaging is... Not a big fan of it.
Here is what I am looking for:
SPEED.... when I press a button... i want it to get to that screen fast! I dont use many apps other than basic features. MMS, SMS, EMAIL, PHONE, and Camera. I do sometimes use the GPS. but not often. I could care less about the stocks feautre.
I prefer the windows threaded mesages... not the HTC one.
I do like the Facebook integration on some of the roms but that is not required.
What would you guys say is my best option at this time? Titanium?
I second this. I have never worked with a phone that is so SLOW.
I have no choice but to use this phone as it is supplied by work.
Fast rom needed.
HALP!
yes, go with the energy titanium rom, it's quite zippy if you're looking for that. but realize this phone only has a 528 processor so it still won't be all that fast if you're comparing to other people.
I realize that it wont be as fast as the 1GHz HD2 that is out now... but i just want to squeeze a bit more out of the device i already have.
The phone itself isn't slow... Bad made ROMs make it slow.
Try LBFAR or Simplicity. In my *PERSONAL* opinion they are a lot of faster then any Energy ROM.
Also they aren't bloated with crap...
dragonlord785 said:
yes, go with the energy titanium rom, it's quite zippy if you're looking for that. but realize this phone only has a 528 processor so it still won't be all that fast if you're comparing to other people.
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If speed is your main objective, give overclocking a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374
Jackos said:
The phone itself isn't slow... Bad made ROMs make it slow.
Try LBFAR or Simplicity. In my *PERSONAL* opinion they are a lot of faster then any Energy ROM.
Also they aren't bloated with crap...
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Massive +1 to this. I use Simplicity myself most of the time. It's pretty light and fast. (Not to say that LBFAR isn't light or fast. It is both. It's just a little bit too psychadelically colored for me.)
Also, Jackos's ROMs are pretty nice as well, and are generally what I'm running if I am not on Simplicity. They're not built specifically for speed, but they're really well crafted and end up being faster than many other ROMs because of it. They're also rock solid. Just tossing that out there, as Jackos seems to have passed on the opportunity to toot his own horn.
Jackos
I am downloading Jackos right now... if the silly file host didnt limit me to 1 file per hour i would have already had it.. but its going now. I am going to try a couple of differnt ones... as well as over clocking app.
Jackos said:
The phone itself isn't slow... Bad made ROMs make it slow.
Try LBFAR or Simplicity. In my *PERSONAL* opinion they are a lot of faster then any Energy ROM.
Also they aren't bloated with crap...
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yes, if your looking for speed improvement with lack of visual effects this is true
Use the standard ROM and disable HTC sense, it won't get any faster or stable.
Mirror in my sig.
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Jackos, I just downloaded the rom from your previous post on this thread... once I installed it, It did not apear to be in english? did I download the wrong one? it also did not apear to include the radio from the rom... but that is easy enough to fix.
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Jackos, I just downloaded the rom from your previous post on this thread... once I installed it, It did not apear to be in english? did I download the wrong one? it also did not apear to include the radio from the rom... but that is easy enough to fix.
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you may have downloaded the polish version. Make sure the name of the file has WWE in it and not PLK. Im using Jackos S2 ROM WWE JackFULL v1.7 right now and it is flawless. Also the ROM download includes the Radio 4.49.25.91 and task29. Hope this helps
FL5 said:
If speed is your main objective, give overclocking a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374
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+1 to that
Shouldn't a new user first choose a RELIABLE ROM and later try some extreme tools like overclock?!
I disagree with this.
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Jackos said:
Shouldn't a new user first choose a RELIABLE ROM and later try some extreme tools like overclock?!
I disagree with this.
-1 to that
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I didn't say that he shouldn't perhaps pick a new ROM that he likes, first. But I also wouldn't call overclocking an "extreme" tool - OCT seems to work very well and my phone is 100% stable, without dynamic overclocking.
I would never recommended an overclocking tool for a new user.
Firstly, how can you be sure that the tool doesn't deal damage to the processor? It's out for just around 2 months.
Secondly, it does shorten the battery life (it may does dmg to the battery too).
Thirdly, it may cause lockups, power management problems, SoD etc.
Yes I would call the current OCT1.5 tool stable enough running at 710Mhz and yes it does speedup our devices, but I still wouldn't recommend it.
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Shouldn't a new user first choose a RELIABLE ROM and later try some extreme tools like overclock?!
I disagree with this.
-1 to that
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Jackos said:
I would never recommended an overclocking tool for a new user.
Firstly, how can you be sure that the tool doesn't deal damage to the processor? It's out for just around 2 months.
Secondly, it does shorten the battery life (it may does dmg to the battery too).
Thirdly, it may cause lockups, power management problems, SoD etc.
Yes I would call the current OCT1.5 tool stable enough running at 710Mhz and yes it does speedup our devices, but I still wouldn't recommend it.
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Yeah, totally valid points. I kinda fired that suggestion out off-the-cuff right before class started last night, and very obviously didn't flesh it out appropriately.
Overclocking IS an advanced tool and it does impact the stability of a device. Some handsets tolerate it much better than others, but without first having a good working understanding and feel for both the hardware and the ROM you're using, it can cause no end of frustration trying to figure out what settings work for a setup individually (it's like voodoo magic; all settings very much have been found NOT to work for all people).
The first step should be to find a stable ROM and become familiar with how it works, and then start dabbling carefully only AFTER reading the bejeezus out of the OC thread (seriously, RTFM), should a person still be interested.
That being said, in my experience the settings that work seem to be more hardware-dependent than ROM-dependent. After pretty thorough experimentation to find the settings that work well for my TP2, I've been able to carry those settings across several different ROMs without issue. Of course, that being said, I will fully admit that I believe that no amount of care will cause an overclock setup to be as stable as a non-overclocked setup.
Also, yes, overclocking definitely burns through battery life, just like turbocharging burns through gasoline, and this almost assuredly decreases the useful lifespan of your battery. While I'm less certain about the potential for processor damage, that does very possibly exist as well.
That being said, I'm a reckless jerk and always load OCT as one of the first steps on a new flash. However, I do so after having taken all of the above into consideration. It was hasty and ill-advised to recommend that a new user jump in uninformed. My bad.
I haven't noticed a big difference with overclock, so I decided not to use it... The truth is that the phone is perfectly fine. The biggest culprit in all of the slowness is HTC "Bloatware" Sense. I'm seriously considering paying for SPB mobile shell or something similiar and scrapping Sense completely right now, it just doesn't make up for how demanding it is.
/rant off.
I am open to the possibility that at least some of what I perceive could be a placebo affect, but I definitely feel that there is a difference when my TP2 is overclocked to 787mhz, and I currently feel no compulsion to discontinue doing so.
Thing is, I have to admit that the perception is primarily felt when trying to feed the Sense 2.5/CHT resource devourer combo, and even then the TP2 falls noticeably short. It is painfully obvious that Sense was not meant for the TP2, and OC is really just the slap-patch that allows it to limp along at an arguably acceptable pace.
I've been internally debating about going back to SPB MS myself. The amount of functionality that it has is incredible considering the scant resources it uses. I actually meant to drop it back in this past weekend before I got swept up in other nonsense, as I found a little app/toggle somewhere here on xda that claims to switch between manila and SPB MS. I've got CHT on right now, because it is oh-so-pretty, and I am quite fond of my current layout's aesthetics, but it is a total dog, even on Simplicity.
I've been updating to every single Energy ROM release, but have noticed that they all pretty much are the same. The look and feel is identical. All that changes are available memory, and relative response.
From some brief reading, I gather that WP7 will not be for our phones. So what lies ahead for Rhodium ROMs? Is someone brewing up some fantastic new UI that will be mind blowing? I've just been getting more and more jaded recently, and am looking for something to look forward to!
Anyone else with me on this?
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I've been updating to every single Energy ROM release, but have noticed that they all pretty much are the same. The look and feel is identical. All that changes are available memory, and relative response.
From some brief reading, I gather that WP7 will not be for our phones. So what lies ahead for Rhodium ROMs? Is someone brewing up some fantastic new UI that will be mind blowing? I've just been getting more and more jaded recently, and am looking for something to look forward to!
Anyone else with me on this?
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Switch to a different ROM if the Energy ones are getting too stale for you. Almost all the ROMs here are going to offer Sense in some form or another. Try out different themes also. There is no chance for WP7 to grace the Rhodium as the minimum hardware specs are not met. Try out Jackos ROMs or Simplicity. both of them offer very good interfaces with few bugs and great support.
what I want to know is when do all these system builds stop?? Like, are people at MSFT plugging away bringing us these new builds every week, or is that just chef's...?
I was hoping that once WP7 came out, there would be a decisive final version for all the chefs to tinker with, then perfect, after a month or so of ironing out the bugs, each chef could have their final rom for the Rhodium, which has probably been the most used out of all these phones..
Hmm ...... show me your fon. what? you're still flashing the latest NRG ROM? how much time do you spend on the net, at XDA? Aha you have ORD! ;-) Anyways, joking aside, I'm praying for the XDANDROID project to add BT functinality, then I'll switch over to Android for good. Is there no way for HTC to legally produce an Android ROM for the Rhodium, now that WP7 is out? Bipinsen - please take a months' holiday from flashing, it'll renew your awe for NRG ROMS. ORD is sweeter the second time around, lol
Try out the Simplicity roms. You won't be disappointed.
dodo2244 said:
Bipinsen - please take a months' holiday from flashing, it'll renew your awe for NRG ROMS. ORD is sweeter the second time around, lol
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Haha. You're asking an addict to quit. Hmm.. good luck!
But you're right. I might need to go away for a while to see that what I have is really good!
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Try out the Simplicity roms. You won't be disappointed.
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NRG also has his ROM with the Simplicity theme built in. I haven't researched it, but is there a reason to flash the Simplicity ROM, and not the NRG ROM with the theme?
The other ROM is Jackos. That has some interesting apps built in.
But I think this brings about what I've been trying to say. CFB hinted at it already - ALL Rhodium ROMs will have Sense in one flavor or another. So is that the be all and end all for all UIs? Should I just flash a base ROM and throw SPB Mobile Shell on top? I suppose the next big thing will really be XDAndroid.
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NRG also has his ROM with the Simplicity theme built in. I haven't researched it, but is there a reason to flash the Simplicity ROM, and not the NRG ROM with the theme?
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I think you might have simplicity confused with .sencity.
Simplicity is a whole different kind of ROM from Energy. simplicity (as the name implies) is really lightweight, with very few cooked-in apps. Less than 50mb of storage memory used after getting things configured on simplicity. But not as many options as Energy, such as the 5 different Start Menu choices.
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I think you might have simplicity confused with .sencity.
Simplicity is a whole different kind of ROM from Energy. simplicity (as the name implies) is really lightweight, with very few cooked-in apps. Less than 50mb of storage memory used after getting things configured on simplicity. But not as many options as Energy, such as the 5 different Start Menu choices.
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I guess the options are there, they're just floating around in cabs somewhere as opposed to conveniently in Energy ROMs. I think I'll add some links to the simplicity thread
On topic: What's wrong with CHT 2? It really adds a lot to the Sense interface. Other than that I'm not sure there will be anything too revolutionary for the Rhodium. The CPU is lacking, compared to all the newer phones with Snapdragons nowadays. It's still a great phone though, will always be. I have yet to see a QWERTY keyboard on a phone as good as this one!
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I guess the options are there, they're just floating around in cabs somewhere as opposed to conveniently in Energy ROMs. I think I'll add some links to the simplicity thread
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That would be a cool alternative to having the Start Menu alternatives cooked in. I personally could only find CABs for 2 of the 4 Start Menu alternatives that Energy supplies. And not my favorite, "Compact".
Although I have to say, there are still some things that I prefer about the standard Start Menu. So I'm still somewhat torn about whether the Program Memory savings are significant enough for me.
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I think you might have simplicity confused with .sencity.
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You're absolutely right. Rookie mistake on my part.
But if the ROM is really that "simple" then would I be putting something like SPB MS on top of it?
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On topic: What's wrong with CHT 2? It really adds a lot to the Sense interface. Other than that I'm not sure there will be anything too revolutionary for the Rhodium. The CPU is lacking, compared to all the newer phones with Snapdragons nowadays. It's still a great phone though, will always be. I have yet to see a QWERTY keyboard on a phone as good as this one!
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There's nothing "wrong" with CHT 2. But there's nothing that amazing either. I have yet to figure out why my quick links keep rearranging themselves, or getting duplicated. Putting contacts as either quick links or free links don't survive a reboot (the pictures get replaced by generic gray icons). None of the fixes have worked permanently for me.
I mean CHT 2 is basically one giant task scheduler, along with the ability to add free links.
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That would be a cool alternative to having the Start Menu alternatives cooked in. I personally could only find CABs for 2 of the 4 Start Menu alternatives that Energy supplies. And not my favorite, "Compact".
Although I have to say, there are still some things that I prefer about the standard Start Menu. So I'm still somewhat torn about whether the Program Memory savings are significant enough for me.
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I have tried all of NRGs start menu options, and the one that I've liked the best is the "Panel" style. It maintains folder structure, along with icons that are recognizable. The Sense style menu is too laggy - it takes forever for the menu icons to render.
bipinsen said:
You're absolutely right. Rookie mistake on my part.
But if the ROM is really that "simple" then would I be putting something like SPB MS on top of it?
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Simplicity still has Sense. If you run Mobile Shell exclusively, it might be a good idea to flash a ROM that only has Titanium, as you would get some storage memory savings by not having all the Sense/Manila files. Not sure if there is a performance difference at all running Mobile Shell on a Sense ROM with Sense turned off, versus a clean ROM without Sense.
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There's nothing "wrong" with CHT 2. But there's nothing that amazing either. I have yet to figure out why my quick links keep rearranging themselves, or getting duplicated. Putting contacts as either quick links or free links don't survive a reboot (the pictures get replaced by generic gray icons). None of the fixes have worked permanently for me.
I mean CHT 2 is basically one giant task scheduler, along with the ability to add free links.
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I tried the beta on CHT2.0 on Energy ROM, and did enjoy the features (although I'll agree that 2.0 is more of an evolution of CHT than revolutionary). I liked the free links, the added widgets, and the Android-style 3-screen wide home tab (although that last feature is really not all too different from the multi-level home tab in CHT1.8.5, just swiping in a different direction!).
That said, the 2.0 beta is still too buggy. I had the same problem with quicklinks occasionally disappearing or moving. And fairly frequent restarting of Sense while swiping the home tab side to side. I know there was some discussion on the Energy thread of how to prevent/minimize this by having less objects on the home tab. But the bottom line is CHT2.0 is still beta and still buggy.
I've gone back to CHT 1.8.5 until 2.0 becomes a stable release (and on simplicity ROM now).
redpoint73 said:
That would be a cool alternative to having the Start Menu alternatives cooked in. I personally could only find CABs for 2 of the 4 Start Menu alternatives that Energy supplies. And not my favorite, "Compact".
Although I have to say, there are still some things that I prefer about the standard Start Menu. So I'm still somewhat torn about whether the Program Memory savings are significant enough for me.
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Compact Start Menu is Quick Menu. colossus_r made a nice version of it with all the settings links included.
Since I have so much RAM using the latest Energy ROM, I'm thinking of using ShellSwitcher with SBP Mobile Shell and mskip's WM 7 theme just to get a feel for WM 7's hubs. mskip is also working on a new Droid theme that looks interesting. This might be an easy way to try out new fun stuff.
If I like it, I'll reflash with NRG's Titanium ROM for more speed and memory and dump Sense.
J_M_H said:
Since I have so much RAM using the latest Energy ROM, I'm thinking of using ShellSwitcher with SBP Mobile Shell and mskip's WM 7 theme just to get a feel for WM 7's hubs. mskip is also working on a new Droid theme that looks interesting. This might be an easy way to try out new fun stuff.
If I like it, I'll reflash with NRG's Titanium ROM for more speed and memory and dump Sense.
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Interesting thought. I haven't checked out mskip's themes in a while. Heading over there now...
It might be that theming is the next big thing for the TP2s. The ROMs definitely have reached their limits on features and functionality.
In few months our phones will be a piece of garbage with no further developments
the last and only hope i see as future of winmo6.5 is android project
spb 5.0
I'm waiting for spb 5.0 to come out for the general public, if that every happens..
Have you checked it out ? That, i call mindblowing
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I'm waiting for spb 5.0 to come out for the general public, if that every happens..
Have you checked it out ? That, i call mindblowing
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I did. But that development has been a disaster. They went from 1GHz spec crap, to now saying that for lower devices the experience will be not as enhanced. And then there are threads that talk about no end-user release for the software. The days of SPB were here, and are now gone.
In other news, I did check out the WP7 theme. Hmm.. nothing that exciting. And things look more confusing than anything else. Android here I come...
Just kidding.
the show stopper said:
In few months our phones will be a piece of garbage with no further developments
the last and only hope i see as future of winmo6.5 is android project
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I'm running Android on my TP2.
All that's needed is Bluetooth, Camera, and usb headphone support.
toadlife said:
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I'm running Android on my TP2.
All that's needed is Bluetooth, Camera, and usb headphone support.
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Pretty much the stuff that makes a smartphone a phone...
Hi,
I am a newbie when it comes to smartphones and the rest. And this is exactly why I'd like to know what is/are the best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.
The criteria should be:
- Visual effects
- Responsiveness (speed)
- Ease of use
- Minimal usage of the RAM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
this coming also from a newbie, which is using this ROM for a couple of months now. good luck!
There is no "best" ROM. It depends on your individual needs and preferences. Many people here generally frown upon questions like this, because its an insult to the hard work that the chefs do to create the custom ROMs, to recommend one over the other.
At the risk of contradicting myself a bit, I know the choice can be overwhelming for n00bs. So I will just briefly mention my personal experience. I used Energy for a long time, tried Deep Shining, and simplicity is my current favorite. But that doesn't mean that other ROMs are not great also. Valkyrie and Jackos also get lots of good response on these forums.
Thank you very much! I'll read through right away!!!
Oops! I didn't know I was trespassing. However, thank you for understanding me. I'll further my research using the names of ROMs you've given me. Thank you once again!
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
iamterence said:
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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Okay! But is it nice?
iamterence said:
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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I haven't try Touch Flo 3D rom But now I 'm running simplicity ROM. I think that 's very good as Redpoit73 said above. if you try I belive that you like it
gueyenono said:
Hi,
I am a newbie when it comes to smartphones and the rest. And this is exactly why I'd like to know what is/are the best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.
The criteria should be:
- Visual effects
- Responsiveness (speed)
- Ease of use
- Minimal usage of the RAM
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Try the JackOS ROM, i'm a fan! It's stable as a rock and he added OCT, so your phone is overclocked to 710Mhz by default.
He is a perfectionist as he wants to minimize memory leaks (read: low mem usage).
I can really recommend his roms
Grtz,
FeareX
I too am new to Windows Mobile and found my ATT Tilt 2 a bit slow.
I've HardSPLed my phone, loaded all the different ROMS from NRG and after running them for quite some time, and screwing with them found that there are things left out that only the stock ROM provides....as in:
GPS
keyboard functions even after loading the keyboard fix it will not retrack.
Widgets that go missing after you have set them up....
Little things.....
I went back to the upgraded ROM form HTC.
I would suggest the same....
There's crudscraper which will free up some space and a couple of cabs that will give you 16 quick links and contacts but.......
I would suggest loading the basic HTC rom and purchasing SPB Shell.
Quite frankly, IT WORKS.
Later....
Go find the ROMs Wildchild builds. They are like stock ROMs but MUCH MUCH more stable and fast. Lean and mean. Link in my sig.
My 2 cents. Tried many over extended period of time from:
- simplest eras2r (but one of the most solid-like-a-rock with a good battery and performance) to
- Energy's huge variety of choices
- Wild Child's
- Simplicity's (was not very simple for me, had a couple of stability issues)
- etc. etc. etc.
Has never had a chance to actually try Jackos's. Just now tried Jackos's full s2 ROM. Flying, tons of storage and program memory, right programs, right layout for me. If this baby is stable, not sure will ever look for something else.
My personal opinion go with latest Jackos ROM, OndraSter did also meke some good ones, but no sense ...
I guess there really isnt too much to say anymore but just to try them all... The only thing i do suggest is making sure you do the "task 29" ( forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191) between flashes just so u know ur getting the most purity from all ur roms. Different roms offer different things and as u go through there post the objectives of the roms. Another thing i suggest you try is, getting a rom like Jackos S2, disabling sence from the options and trying the android prj. But at the end of the day u find the rom that fits u!
What ROM cooked with Maxsense would you suggest to a newbie like me?