I've been updating to every single Energy ROM release, but have noticed that they all pretty much are the same. The look and feel is identical. All that changes are available memory, and relative response.
From some brief reading, I gather that WP7 will not be for our phones. So what lies ahead for Rhodium ROMs? Is someone brewing up some fantastic new UI that will be mind blowing? I've just been getting more and more jaded recently, and am looking for something to look forward to!
Anyone else with me on this?
bipinsen said:
I've been updating to every single Energy ROM release, but have noticed that they all pretty much are the same. The look and feel is identical. All that changes are available memory, and relative response.
From some brief reading, I gather that WP7 will not be for our phones. So what lies ahead for Rhodium ROMs? Is someone brewing up some fantastic new UI that will be mind blowing? I've just been getting more and more jaded recently, and am looking for something to look forward to!
Anyone else with me on this?
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Switch to a different ROM if the Energy ones are getting too stale for you. Almost all the ROMs here are going to offer Sense in some form or another. Try out different themes also. There is no chance for WP7 to grace the Rhodium as the minimum hardware specs are not met. Try out Jackos ROMs or Simplicity. both of them offer very good interfaces with few bugs and great support.
what I want to know is when do all these system builds stop?? Like, are people at MSFT plugging away bringing us these new builds every week, or is that just chef's...?
I was hoping that once WP7 came out, there would be a decisive final version for all the chefs to tinker with, then perfect, after a month or so of ironing out the bugs, each chef could have their final rom for the Rhodium, which has probably been the most used out of all these phones..
Hmm ...... show me your fon. what? you're still flashing the latest NRG ROM? how much time do you spend on the net, at XDA? Aha you have ORD! ;-) Anyways, joking aside, I'm praying for the XDANDROID project to add BT functinality, then I'll switch over to Android for good. Is there no way for HTC to legally produce an Android ROM for the Rhodium, now that WP7 is out? Bipinsen - please take a months' holiday from flashing, it'll renew your awe for NRG ROMS. ORD is sweeter the second time around, lol
Try out the Simplicity roms. You won't be disappointed.
dodo2244 said:
Bipinsen - please take a months' holiday from flashing, it'll renew your awe for NRG ROMS. ORD is sweeter the second time around, lol
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Haha. You're asking an addict to quit. Hmm.. good luck!
But you're right. I might need to go away for a while to see that what I have is really good!
doublen1 said:
Try out the Simplicity roms. You won't be disappointed.
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NRG also has his ROM with the Simplicity theme built in. I haven't researched it, but is there a reason to flash the Simplicity ROM, and not the NRG ROM with the theme?
The other ROM is Jackos. That has some interesting apps built in.
But I think this brings about what I've been trying to say. CFB hinted at it already - ALL Rhodium ROMs will have Sense in one flavor or another. So is that the be all and end all for all UIs? Should I just flash a base ROM and throw SPB Mobile Shell on top? I suppose the next big thing will really be XDAndroid.
bipinsen said:
NRG also has his ROM with the Simplicity theme built in. I haven't researched it, but is there a reason to flash the Simplicity ROM, and not the NRG ROM with the theme?
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I think you might have simplicity confused with .sencity.
Simplicity is a whole different kind of ROM from Energy. simplicity (as the name implies) is really lightweight, with very few cooked-in apps. Less than 50mb of storage memory used after getting things configured on simplicity. But not as many options as Energy, such as the 5 different Start Menu choices.
redpoint73 said:
I think you might have simplicity confused with .sencity.
Simplicity is a whole different kind of ROM from Energy. simplicity (as the name implies) is really lightweight, with very few cooked-in apps. Less than 50mb of storage memory used after getting things configured on simplicity. But not as many options as Energy, such as the 5 different Start Menu choices.
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I guess the options are there, they're just floating around in cabs somewhere as opposed to conveniently in Energy ROMs. I think I'll add some links to the simplicity thread
On topic: What's wrong with CHT 2? It really adds a lot to the Sense interface. Other than that I'm not sure there will be anything too revolutionary for the Rhodium. The CPU is lacking, compared to all the newer phones with Snapdragons nowadays. It's still a great phone though, will always be. I have yet to see a QWERTY keyboard on a phone as good as this one!
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I guess the options are there, they're just floating around in cabs somewhere as opposed to conveniently in Energy ROMs. I think I'll add some links to the simplicity thread
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That would be a cool alternative to having the Start Menu alternatives cooked in. I personally could only find CABs for 2 of the 4 Start Menu alternatives that Energy supplies. And not my favorite, "Compact".
Although I have to say, there are still some things that I prefer about the standard Start Menu. So I'm still somewhat torn about whether the Program Memory savings are significant enough for me.
redpoint73 said:
I think you might have simplicity confused with .sencity.
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You're absolutely right. Rookie mistake on my part.
But if the ROM is really that "simple" then would I be putting something like SPB MS on top of it?
seeM_ZA said:
On topic: What's wrong with CHT 2? It really adds a lot to the Sense interface. Other than that I'm not sure there will be anything too revolutionary for the Rhodium. The CPU is lacking, compared to all the newer phones with Snapdragons nowadays. It's still a great phone though, will always be. I have yet to see a QWERTY keyboard on a phone as good as this one!
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There's nothing "wrong" with CHT 2. But there's nothing that amazing either. I have yet to figure out why my quick links keep rearranging themselves, or getting duplicated. Putting contacts as either quick links or free links don't survive a reboot (the pictures get replaced by generic gray icons). None of the fixes have worked permanently for me.
I mean CHT 2 is basically one giant task scheduler, along with the ability to add free links.
redpoint73 said:
That would be a cool alternative to having the Start Menu alternatives cooked in. I personally could only find CABs for 2 of the 4 Start Menu alternatives that Energy supplies. And not my favorite, "Compact".
Although I have to say, there are still some things that I prefer about the standard Start Menu. So I'm still somewhat torn about whether the Program Memory savings are significant enough for me.
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I have tried all of NRGs start menu options, and the one that I've liked the best is the "Panel" style. It maintains folder structure, along with icons that are recognizable. The Sense style menu is too laggy - it takes forever for the menu icons to render.
bipinsen said:
You're absolutely right. Rookie mistake on my part.
But if the ROM is really that "simple" then would I be putting something like SPB MS on top of it?
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Simplicity still has Sense. If you run Mobile Shell exclusively, it might be a good idea to flash a ROM that only has Titanium, as you would get some storage memory savings by not having all the Sense/Manila files. Not sure if there is a performance difference at all running Mobile Shell on a Sense ROM with Sense turned off, versus a clean ROM without Sense.
bipinsen said:
There's nothing "wrong" with CHT 2. But there's nothing that amazing either. I have yet to figure out why my quick links keep rearranging themselves, or getting duplicated. Putting contacts as either quick links or free links don't survive a reboot (the pictures get replaced by generic gray icons). None of the fixes have worked permanently for me.
I mean CHT 2 is basically one giant task scheduler, along with the ability to add free links.
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I tried the beta on CHT2.0 on Energy ROM, and did enjoy the features (although I'll agree that 2.0 is more of an evolution of CHT than revolutionary). I liked the free links, the added widgets, and the Android-style 3-screen wide home tab (although that last feature is really not all too different from the multi-level home tab in CHT1.8.5, just swiping in a different direction!).
That said, the 2.0 beta is still too buggy. I had the same problem with quicklinks occasionally disappearing or moving. And fairly frequent restarting of Sense while swiping the home tab side to side. I know there was some discussion on the Energy thread of how to prevent/minimize this by having less objects on the home tab. But the bottom line is CHT2.0 is still beta and still buggy.
I've gone back to CHT 1.8.5 until 2.0 becomes a stable release (and on simplicity ROM now).
redpoint73 said:
That would be a cool alternative to having the Start Menu alternatives cooked in. I personally could only find CABs for 2 of the 4 Start Menu alternatives that Energy supplies. And not my favorite, "Compact".
Although I have to say, there are still some things that I prefer about the standard Start Menu. So I'm still somewhat torn about whether the Program Memory savings are significant enough for me.
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Compact Start Menu is Quick Menu. colossus_r made a nice version of it with all the settings links included.
Since I have so much RAM using the latest Energy ROM, I'm thinking of using ShellSwitcher with SBP Mobile Shell and mskip's WM 7 theme just to get a feel for WM 7's hubs. mskip is also working on a new Droid theme that looks interesting. This might be an easy way to try out new fun stuff.
If I like it, I'll reflash with NRG's Titanium ROM for more speed and memory and dump Sense.
J_M_H said:
Since I have so much RAM using the latest Energy ROM, I'm thinking of using ShellSwitcher with SBP Mobile Shell and mskip's WM 7 theme just to get a feel for WM 7's hubs. mskip is also working on a new Droid theme that looks interesting. This might be an easy way to try out new fun stuff.
If I like it, I'll reflash with NRG's Titanium ROM for more speed and memory and dump Sense.
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Interesting thought. I haven't checked out mskip's themes in a while. Heading over there now...
It might be that theming is the next big thing for the TP2s. The ROMs definitely have reached their limits on features and functionality.
In few months our phones will be a piece of garbage with no further developments
the last and only hope i see as future of winmo6.5 is android project
spb 5.0
I'm waiting for spb 5.0 to come out for the general public, if that every happens..
Have you checked it out ? That, i call mindblowing
0bs3rv3r said:
I'm waiting for spb 5.0 to come out for the general public, if that every happens..
Have you checked it out ? That, i call mindblowing
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I did. But that development has been a disaster. They went from 1GHz spec crap, to now saying that for lower devices the experience will be not as enhanced. And then there are threads that talk about no end-user release for the software. The days of SPB were here, and are now gone.
In other news, I did check out the WP7 theme. Hmm.. nothing that exciting. And things look more confusing than anything else. Android here I come...
Just kidding.
the show stopper said:
In few months our phones will be a piece of garbage with no further developments
the last and only hope i see as future of winmo6.5 is android project
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+1
I'm running Android on my TP2.
All that's needed is Bluetooth, Camera, and usb headphone support.
toadlife said:
+1
I'm running Android on my TP2.
All that's needed is Bluetooth, Camera, and usb headphone support.
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Pretty much the stuff that makes a smartphone a phone...
Related
I consider myself the type of person to be 'whoooed' by a gimmick. The iPhone user interface looked pretty nice, but I have been called Bill Gates love child on several occasions from certain people who know me personally and know of my love for Windows (Mobile and Desktop), the iPhone really was not a suitable product. I do like Windows Mobile. In fact I like it a lot. But it IS UGLY. So UGLY.
I have my fair share of experience with Windows Mobile, from 5 on my HTC Hermes then to 6 on the Touch, to 6.1 on my Touch Dual and now the Diamond. I purchased the Diamond for several reasons but the most important reasons were
1. The phone is beautiful.
2. TouchFlo 3D is beautiful.
Even though it did not cover 100% of Windows, most of the functions I regularly use were. The animations were great - I do love the 'fly in' and 'fly out' menus.
However after a while of use (especially when patience wears short after a few pints during those sociable moments), I found myself acknowledging the fact it was sluggish. So I decided to flash the device with cooked ROMs based on the 1.37 ROM's. Yes I did see a difference, but there are times when it would still run rather slow. OK, I thought, with the emergence of 1.93 ROM's, I immediately flashed my device. Very responsive now, but no menu animations? Just a fade in/out transition effect between menus?
I know this may sound rather anal (in fact it is), but I love the UI as it was. Now every cooked ROM is based on 1.93. Now the official HTC site offers the 1.93 ROM as an upgrade. I can't help but feel a tad upset that HTC have decided to 'optimise' the interface by removing components of it. I feel as though HTC themselves have indirectly publicly acknowledged that either a. the spec of the phone is insufficient or (which is most likely) b. that the software is too inefficient. Now I have a fair clue on how to find information and while searching for a 1.37 ROM, I found the stock 1.35 ROM. Just for a laugh I flashed my device with it. Just for a laugh....
Now it seems to me that this ROM runs better than the 1.37 ROM with the animations intact, not sure if anyone else has experienced this but overall I am rather disappointed on HTC's decision moving forward with TouchFlo3D is to sacrifice the UI presentation to improve responsiveness. HTC do not provide previous ROM versions (as far as I am aware), if someone were to flash the ROM and was unhappy with the result then it is not as easy as it could be to return to the stock ROM..
Lots of text for being about the 13231th person mentioning your core of the story.
Did you try (on your original rom) applying a few of the Diamond tweaks that are available? Those improve performance a bit, maybe not to the point of some of the newer ROMs, but may be good enough to have you feeling it's not as sluggish.
Riel said:
Lots of text for being about the 13231th person mentioning your core of the story.
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What a totally random number, but palindromic too! lol - Made me chuckle at 2:24:22am!
odyssey96 said:
I can't help but feel a tad upset that HTC have decided to 'optimise' the interface by removing components of it. .
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Just out of curiousity, what components were removed. I didn't have the 1.35 around long enough to compare it to the 1.37.
Thanks,
Mark
Black93300ZX said:
Did you try (on your original rom) applying a few of the Diamond tweaks that are available? Those improve performance a bit, maybe not to the point of some of the newer ROMs, but may be good enough to have you feeling it's not as sluggish.
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I did not, because a majority of the cooked ROM's on offer already implemented registry tweaks so I just flashed a few of them. Diamond Project v1, bElite, etc.
orangecrush said:
Just out of curiousity, what components were removed. I didn't have the 1.35 around long enough to compare it to the 1.37.
Thanks,
Mark
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I do not believe anything was removed from 1.37, I was referring to the removal of animations in 1.93. I will be sticking to 1.35 until the ROM's with TouchXperience emerge. I really would like to cover the Start menu and also settings control panel, PointUI does not seem to work on the Diamond.
Flash your device with a lite ROM based on 1.93 and diable TF3D. Install Spb Mobile Shell. A much much better GUI and which covers more functions than TF3D.
This thread is for people like me, who don't know what ROM to choose from a list of many ROMs from many great chefs.
I am keeping my poll options empty for the time being as I have only played with a few ROMs without any guidance. I will begin to populate them as I start to see a few specific ROMs appearing consistantly.
I would like to ask the community of xda-developers to come by and help populate this thread with simple comments
and/or recommendations on what ROM(s if you have multiple devices) you use on your Rhodium/Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2 device.
Also, please also add what kind of user your are, or how/why you use your phone with 'said' ROM.
Additionally beneficial would be letting users know what ROM you recently used prior to your recommendation and the offsets you experience in general.
ie. ROM A is the one I recommend. However, ROM B does a few things a bit better, although ROM A is the one I would recommend to people who like smooth, quick eyecandy filled ROMs.
I also ask for intelligent, constructive critique on what you think about the ROM that you are commenting upon.
No one needs to know about what piece of profanity you would like to tack on 'user A' for saying '10101' about 'ROM B' or vice-versa.
This is meant to be a resource for new users to xda-developers, like I was, and to new owners of the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium, Windows Mobile phone.
Candidly, I would like to have the moderator's support in keeping this a clean thread to have an easier (and more pleasant) navigation throughout the thread.
I would like to start off with creating a list of ROMs organized by chef name and OS/TouchFlo 3D version.
Underneath each ROM and their links (I will either find the ROM myself, or if you can be so helpful enough to link it onto your post
within this thread), I will be adding the pros and cons that are mentioned here, and that I have found as well.
To let you know a bit about my bias, I am looking for the following items;
-Speed
--Not only operating speed, going from interface to interface, but also how it handles multitasking.
--I usually do these three together; GPS, music, web browsing/text messaging
-User Friendliness
--From first stepping into the ROM, to using it for a couple of days and seeing it's inevitable and understandable flaws and offsets.
--Customizing settings on the ROM, and the ease to have certain things.
-Miscellaneous
--Other things such as the way the ROM will handle things such as the
unsightly error of TouchFlo 3D 2.5 and it's lack of Landscape viewing ability.
--These items will account for my general accountability on the topic of
"Would I (highly) recommend to my friend, who may be the same as, or a completely different user than, me."
My history with phones;
I have first used Motorola phones, starting with the t220 (apparently one of the first camera phones) moving to the RAZR V6 MAXX
(quite a glam, nice looking phone with great features, but poor connectivity issues with network and bluetooth) and a few years ago
Sony Ericsson phones such as the W810, K850 and the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1a.
Most recently;
I have late last year, used a BlackBerry BOLD 9000, and in the past 3 months, trialed the Sony Ericsson XPERIA.
Without much ROM customization, the stock ROM was fun to play with, but lacked the easy access and user interface speed that
I have become accustomed to with the BlackBerry BOLD 9000. However, in seeing the Touch Pro 2 and purchasing it, I can now fully indulge in customizing
it with ROMs to fit my needs, though I am still painfully without hardware keys to have quick access to my browser, music or GPS.
However, I suppose the full 5 row keyboard makes up for the lack of hardware buttons elsewhere on the body.
Currently, I am using my Touch Pro 2, mainly as a resource device. What do I mean by this? I am using it with a SIM Card that only has data services.
I have installed programs such as Japanese dictionaries, phrase banks and linguistic aids to help in my study of the Japanese language.
I also use this for school (I am currently in grade 11, high school) using this device as my quick access to the internet (even though I have my blackberry).
I suppose having new devices is an obsession for me, as with a few others on here.
I'm looking for ROMs that will allow me quick and easy access to the programs that I frequent the most such as my Japanese programs, GPS,
music, web browser, notes, M-Soft Word and also allow me to freely multitask with them.
I know that this is mainly hardware dependent, but I have learned that some ROMs take up less RAM space, as to free up some more coasting speed for programs to run on.
Posting Format
Please include the following;
Recommended ROM?
ROM used before recommended ROM?
Your network provider, phone (is it from/branded T-Mobile US, AT&T, Telstra, Sprint, TELUS)?
How/What do you use your phone? (Business, personal, school // As your main device, just as a (conference) phone, just as a mini internet tablet, etc...)
The pros & cons you noticed coming onto this ROM?
Who you think would benefit from using this ROM?
ADDITIONALLY;
I want to invite Chefs to either PM me, or post what (and who) they desire their ROM to be (for),
so that TP2/Rhodium users/owners can have a one-stop place to take a look at which ROM has what to offer (and to whom).
I will be adding the Chef's words beneath the ROM(s) they wish to comment upon.
The following post will before the ROM listings.
ROM Listings!
Chef NRGZ28
He builds his ROMs with four main goals.
* Eye candy
* Speed !!!
* Smoothness, consistency and good aesthetics
* Stability through private beta testing before public release
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★ EnergyROM "Leo" (Build 23016) [Updated Oct 7]
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.5
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Comments;
-Stable
-Fast
-Good Looking
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Great for;
★ EnergyROM "Photon, formerly GENESIS" (BUILD?) [Updated Oct 7]
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.1
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Comments;
-Bug-Free
-Great aesthetics
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Great for;
Chef Monx
"ONLY THE BEST FOR ALL XDA-DEV MEMBERS"
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ROMeOS³ v1.20 (Build 23016)
Runs Windows Mobile 6.5 WWE & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.5 + HTC SENSE (beta)
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Comments;
-Fun and easy to customize to personal tastes
-Works great "out of the box"
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Great for;
Chef b16b
AthineOS v2.0 OEM Style (Build 21054)
Runs Windows Mobile 6.1 & TouchFlo 3D/Manila 2.1
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Comments;
-Works great "out of the box"
-Very stock/OEM like ROM without all the carrier's unneccessary confectionery
-Easy to use, being that it is a simple ROM
-Quick and fast
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Great for;
-Those who are looking to keep their stock ROM without carrier branding or excessive programs
-Great for business users to retain that 'corporate' look
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im so glad you have this up. i also have a hard time choosing.
pretty useless comment lol
You might be wasting your time since a mod most likely will close this thread...
How come?
If I'm making a bit too bias (on what I'm looking for) then I won't include my own opinion. That's fine.
But I want to have something like what the Kovsky/Sony Ericsson XPERIA forum has.
A ROM index, but enhanced with things such as recommendations, and owner/users & chef comments.
SleepiTyme said:
How come?
If I'm making a bit too bias (on what I'm looking for) then I won't include my own opinion. That's fine.
But I want to have something like what the Kovsky/Sony Ericsson XPERIA forum has.
A ROM index, but enhanced with things such as recommendations, and owner/users & chef comments.
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I am not sure why, the last few times someone asked which ROM was best the mods closed the thread. They claim it cuases flame wars and such.
Personally, I dont mind, like the idea and I was just giving you a heads up. Maybe you should ask a mod before your proceed further.
I would say this poll would avoid other threads like "what do you think is the best rom" or "can you advise me some rom"
So thumbs up
the best way to keep one thread like this is :
take one benchmark.. and test all the rom.. and post all result here
like topaz one
otherwise will locked soon
Benchmark?
"How does Benchmark?"
I think.. by emulating the ROM's speed and multitasking capabilities and such?
I want to know, not by computer, but by people why 'said' ROM is great.
Honestly, this is my story here;
I heard that ROMeOS's ROM for the Rhodium was great, although I had first saw Athine OS (both the light and Titanium builds with 2.1 and 2.5 Manila, 6.1 and 6.5 WinMo) and saw the pictures of the interface were just completely amazing.
So I downloaded them, but saw that they ran.. just the same as my stock ROM (at quite the same speed), though it was much cleaner than my Telstra stock ROM which was confuddled with many apps and things that I didn't need. And the light blue theme just didn't do it for me.
So then I just recently (actually last night) installed the ROMeOS ROM on my TP2 and found it so fun to have so much control upon things such as background wallpaper (both for lock screen and home screen tab). Also things such as backlighting, edit tabs, set up bluetooth, set up data, ringtones, message notifications ALMOST EVERYTHING customizable (that you would usually have to go in and out of menus for on the stock WWE ROM, and sometimes the Athine ROM) was located in one simple tab. Neigh, a simple section within a tab that had even more customization for other things on the phone.
THAT! That was most likely made this ROM popular, and it really did get into my good books quickly... until I found out that Manila 2.5 doesn't support Landscape.
I feel like I should either.. move onto another ROM, or just live with it.
I'm using Gyrator 2 along with my ROM, and it DID have the event action NOT to have auto rotate in Manila.. even though.. I want it to...
This above.. I'm looking for comments such as this, except from other, MORE experienced users with better opinions. Who hopefully can dumb it down so that people like me and many others, still fairly new to Windows Mobile, xda-developers and the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium alike, can understand.
I believe.. that this should be something like a collaborative blog.
Just reading back up on my post right now, it's almost as if I were reading someone's story.
Many users might not want to go through that, and others may just want to write something to have their experience heard.
What I want to do is sift through all of that, and just have the comments, positive or negative, tacked onto each ROM in a list.
My ROMs Listing post.
Right by each description from each Chef.
Maybe it'll be reason enough for mods to keep this alive, maybe it won't be.
But... saving the effort of going through each ROM (there are about... 6-10, give or take 5^x) in which said thread for said ROM has 10+ pages of posts, usually around the vicinity of 30-50.
That is A LOT OF READING.
useless information
personally, this is useless information and i don"t go by polls. The best information is based on users" signature. I also take time to read, instead of relying on polls.
SleepiTyme said:
Benchmark?
"How does Benchmark?"
I think.. by emulating the ROM's speed and multitasking capabilities and such?
I want to know, not by computer, but by people why 'said' ROM is great.
Honestly, this is my story here;
I heard that ROMeOS's ROM for the Rhodium was great, although I had first saw Athine OS (both the light and Titanium builds with 2.1 and 2.5 Manila, 6.1 and 6.5 WinMo) and saw the pictures of the interface were just completely amazing.
So I downloaded them, but saw that they ran.. just the same as my stock ROM, though it was much cleaner than my Telstra stock ROM which was confuddled with many apps and things that I didn't need. And the light blue theme just didn't do it for me.
So then I just recently (actually last night) installed the ROMeOS ROM on my TP2 and found it so fun to have so much control upon things such as background wallpaper (both for lock screen and home screen tab). Also things such as backlighting, edit tabs, set up bluetooth, set up data, ringtones, message notifications ALMOST EVERYTHING customizable (that you would usually have to go in and out of menus for on the stock WWE ROM, and sometimes the Athine ROM) was located in one simple tab. Neigh, a simple section within a tab that had even more customization for other things on the phone.
THAT! That was most likely made this ROM popular, and it really did get into my good books quickly... until I found out that Manila 2.5 doesn't support Landscape.
I feel like I should either.. move onto another ROM, or just live with it.
I'm using Gyrator 2 along with my ROM, and it DID have the event action NOT to have auto rotate in Manila.. even though.. I want it to...
This above.. I'm looking for comments such as this, except from other, MORE experienced users with better opinions. Who hopefully can dumb it down so that people like me and many others, still fairly new to Windows Mobile, xda-developers and the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium alike, can understand.
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How does one know which is best if they do not try them all? You mentioned two ROMs but have not mentioned the others. Can you give valid opinion on which you think is best without trying them all? Everyone has different tastes.
Those are just some of the things the mods may say and have said.
Like what I said, I don't mind a thread like this and wish there was a way to do this in a way that was more subjective.
Maybe there needs to be an official ROM judge
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Well that won't work either.
The only for you to know what ROM is best for you is to try them all until you find one that you like for yourself.
Ut0p1a said:
personally, this is useless information and i don"t go by polls. The best information is based on users" signature. I also take time to read, instead of relying on polls.
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Then.. maybe not polls?
What other way would be the best to;
1) save you time from reading a couple dozen to a couple hundred posts everytime you got a new device (though we're only talking about the Rhodium, and if you've read all those posts, I suppose you're a lost cause that I want to avoid being like, and want to help others avoid being as such as well)
2) Get you the accurate information on what are the highlights of the ROMs
2b) Without all the different ways that each chef sets up their forum posts to explain what their ROM does
2c) And have it all in one common format
3) Not many people post their ROMs on their signatures. I just saw it around as a growing
@At0mAng
Thank you for your opinion at this time of night.
Yes, did only mention (actually it was) three roms.
However, that is just only my input.
I've yet to trial the Miri ROM(s) and the Energy ROMs, just to name a few.
But mainly, I want simple, quick or concise comments on which ROMs a good/great and for what reason. Is it some part of the ROM? Does it perform better in the way that you've explained that you are using your TP2? Etc?
Yes.. everyone has different tastes, but they can mention what they like about 'said' ROM and help people become objective by the comments made here, and the quick pros and cons that have been tabulated onto the second post of this forum for quick reference as to which ROM does what best, or includes which great feature.
Edit;
This thread isn't here to decide Which ROM is the NUMBER ONE (for YOU)?!
It's to help guide newcomers to xda-developers, the HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium and Windows Mobile (all together) choose which ROM to pick.
I mean.. for new people, they have probably heard of ROMs, but don't know what to do with it.
What the heck is a HardSPL and flashing it?
Or, naturally after coming from the HardSPL resource sticky, one does suddenly freeze up and get stuck before spending 3-5 hours reading posts and choosing which ROM to pick and install, only to find out it doesn't really meet their requirements and move on to another one with a HUGE amount of wasted effort.
This here is to help people like that make more objective decisions, much quicker with the pros and cons of each ROM outlined and defined.
ROM Review template?
At0mAng said:
I am not sure why, the last few times someone asked which ROM was best the mods closed the thread. They claim it cuases flame wars and such.
Personally, I dont mind, like the idea and I was just giving you a heads up. Maybe you should ask a mod before your proceed further.
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Completely agree with At0mAng and I like this idea. I don't understand the fear of flame wars either. Just ban the people who start flaming and can't have a normal discussion.
As for this thread, maybe we could all post reviews of a ROM in a certain template. E.g. give grades for speed, apps, stability, eye candy, etc... Some people look for speed and clean ROMs, others just for the most fully apped ROMs. With a review template, you could have a quick overview of what a ROM performs best on and make your pick.
It's Right!
There is NO Best ROM !
Every Cooker has his "touch and taste" in his ROM...
I love to work with you all, guys...
All the cookers here are talented!
Work AS a TEAM get us a BETTER results!!
Continue all, in the great progress...
We will "knock out" HTC software at a glance...
TheAgent1982 said:
There is NO Best ROM !
Every Cooker has his "touch and taste" in his ROM...
I love to work with you all, guys...
All the cookers here are talented!
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It's not the point of this thread to find THE best ROM, but to find the most suitable ROM that fits your needs, at a glance...
Normally these threads are just closed as At0mAng said, but that would be unfair to the OP who's invested a fair old bit of time in this. It isn't the usual format and could be beneficial.
I've said before, that there isn't a forum rules preventing these threads, they are just closed because most of the people who create them are lazy noobs. If this threads is successful, then it "should" lead to less new threads.
I'm now subscribed and will monitor it, if it does degrade in to pretty much a Chef A vs Chef B thread, then I'll close it.
Thanks
Dave
Hi,
I'd like to take the opportunity to try to find a ROM which fits my needs: is there any Rom out there with WM 6.5, quicker than the stock ROM (if one can compare), with as few bugs as possible, still keeping Manilla 2.1 ? By the way, I am not interested in aesthetics, nor in software when the cab is available to install by myself. I only tested EnergyROM Genesis up to now, which is excellent, bug free as far as I can tell, but with many applications, very good aesthetics, maybe speed could improve with lighter graphics... Is there any quicker ROM here ?
On a side note, I find that the virtual keyboard of the TP2 is slow, e.g. changing from alpha to numeric takes too much time (then the first digit you type is ignored), does any ROM (or cab) improve this ?
Recommended ROM
I agree with the moderator that this poll (purely on the basis of statistics) is an interesting experiment and should not be stopped. It is vital though that people who vote have tested a significant number of the roms available.
I tested all the roms available on the 20-25 Sep period (7-8 of them) and I ended up using NRGZ28's Leo Manila 2.5 ROM as the most stable, fast, good looking. Essentially I encounter no bugs in every day use and I would recommend this rom to any TP2 user.
Hey guys, I'm just looking for the most stable ROM. I'm tired of 6.1's non finger friendly menus and add-on software to correct that. I tend to not flash much as I really don't have the time. When I do flash a ROM, I prefer that it be for the next several months. So in terms of stability, should I be going for UnOff 1.5 or Gtrab's R3 Pure?
826x.blogspot.com
ring-bearer said:
826x.blogspot.com
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I'm weary of the Sense ROMS, I figure that'll just introduce more problems than its worth, not to mention background processes taking up extra RAM, no?
sonus said:
I'm weary of the Sense ROMS, I figure that'll just introduce more problems than its worth, not to mention background processes taking up extra RAM, no?
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+1 for Williyung's ROMs. Most recent without Sense is here, and is very good indeed and I used it for several weeks (before getting bored one evening and one thing lead to another ... )
try Xperia Infinite for me its the best rom i ever had.
sonus said:
I'm weary of the Sense ROMS, I figure that'll just introduce more problems than its worth, not to mention background processes taking up extra RAM, no?
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Willi makes perfect ROMs without Sense. Just scroll down a bit on his page and find the latest.
NRG's ROM without Sense ("Titanium") is also really damn good - there's extra stuff we don't need, and battery life is a tiny bit sub-par, but it's got lots of nice tweaks. I use it day to day. Only bug I found is that camera videos only play with CorePlayer.
826x.blogspot.com is what you need
in my opinion.. it just depends on the user and how the user manages to deal with everyday hassle with his unit..if you just want the "SHOWOFF" material.. then i recomend sense roms..but not the battery hungry ones..
for me i use my unit as simple as a phone..multimedia..net browse..games (if bored)
there are alot of roms to choose from you just have to try and choose what will fill your needs.. or if none of them meet your standards.. then last resort will be cooking your own ROM
i only think of one thing whenever i flash.. it's like you're trying to put and to run a ferrari engine into a BMW or a Benz..
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Yes + 1
I tried the Clean Revolution rom lately......
Found it really stable and there is no extra apps wat so ever....
thread closed, not rom development.
If you are sick and tired of slow Sense 2.5 ROM's like I am, I have a solution for ya.
Get a ROM with manila 2016 and no CHT.
Try seeing how that works out. You might miss the functions of CHT but the speed is just incomparable.
I suggest you start with Standard 'Energy' or 'Reference' here:
http://www.easy-share.com/f/1326057875/Rhodium GSM Reference
(for more info click here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773)
If you are feeling adventurous, install HTC messaging here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700495
I am currently using that and speed incredible!
If you are hating the taskbar icons, click here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639842
To all the chefs, please start cooking more ROM's w/o CHT and make the quicklinks smaller (from 3 to 4).
To everyone else, try it and report back. The speed of Sense 2016 is incredible!
Edit: I released a ROM based on this post
Here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7384359
Jackos Oldschool TF3D ROM is even better. If you can live without Sense, definitely give it a whirl. RAM usage almost NEVER fall under 100mb, unless you really push it, and even still it performs like a beast.
Only thing is, being WM6.1, there isn't much support for it. Everyone mainly supports WM6.5, unless I am not looking hard enough.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063
Give it a spin.
iamterence said:
Jackos Oldschool TF3D ROM is even better. If you can live without Sense, definitely give it a whirl. RAM usage almost NEVER fall under 100mb, unless you really push it, and even still it performs like a beast.
Only thing is, being WM6.1, there isn't much support for it. Everyone mainly supports WM6.5, unless I am not looking hard enough.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063
Give it a spin.
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I can't give up Sense 2.5 tho
W/o CHT it flies. Performance of manila 2016 is comparable to TF3D even with HTC Messaging on.
I might even start cooking my own ROM since there is no chefs focusing on speed on Sense 2.5
Funny i did the same thing. I'm so over CHT because it causes so many bugs. Our phones are just too slow for it now.
I would also like to add. Stop using the WM 6.5 Lockscreen. It causes memory leaks and takes up too much resources. I suggest using a alternative. ATM i been trying out touchlockpro since its super light and works good for what i need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
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Funny i did the same thing. I'm so over CHT because it causes so many bugs. Our phones are just too slow for it now.
I would also like to add. Stop using the WM 6.5 Lockscreen. It causes memory leaks and takes up too much resources. I suggest using a alternative. ATM i been trying out touchlockpro since its super light and works good for what i need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215
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Everyone is crazy about CHT but what is really crazy about it is the resources it uses.
Im using Energy 'Reference' with:
HTC Messaging 2015
S2U2
604MHZ overclock (set at startup and when S2U2 unlocks)
and so far so good!
Well, two thing I will miss :
- Dual analog flip clock
- HQ wallpaper.
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Well, two thing I will miss :
- Dual analog flip clock
- HQ wallpaper.
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I think you can add that w/o CHT
Some mods for Sense 2.5
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=101648
For some clocks
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=105069
I think that the performance increase is well worth being without HQ Wallpapers or Dual analog flip clock either way.
Yeah I recently switch to this ROM. It's the best I've ever used. It still has a high RAM use but you won't notice that unless you love multitasking.
The speed that messages, music player, webpages, apps, contact, ect... launch is amazing. The music player doesn't forget the list of albums (I've got over 12Gig of music so this is important)...
I've tried Core Cell Pro (Which is my second favourite ROM). It's soooo pretty but some usability issues and it's nowhere near as fast Energy Reference.
I've tried a couple of JackOS ROMS, The RAM management is unbelievable in his ROMS. Although it's a bit jerky and slow I find the CPU gets hammered by these ROMS.
I used to be an ENERGY Cookie junky. But the dang thing was unusable, maybe if the TPC had twice the processing power and RAM it would be great... (sonething like the prototype going 'round. the HTC Desire with a slideout keyboard)
just my 2 cents....
the only problem with the energy Reference is that the B&N ereader tab is missing and can't be loaded (well from my limited testing).... still I use Freda so who cares?
What about this simplicity ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734399
Any better than the Energy Reference?
anshkhanna said:
What about this simplicity ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734399
Any better than the Energy Reference?
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I've tried it. While it IS the fastest S2.5 rom WITH CHT I've tried... its still S25 w/ CHT lol. Jackos Oldschool ROM kinda set the bar for me when it comes to speed and available ROM, and absolutely nothing has been comparable thus far, imo.
DJGonzo said:
Everyone is crazy about CHT but what is really crazy about it is the resources it uses.
Im using Energy 'Reference' with:
HTC Messaging 2015
S2U2
604MHZ overclock (set at startup and when S2U2 unlocks)
and so far so good!
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how did you overclock?
klash said:
how did you overclock?
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Click on the link in my signature.
From my experience, Jacko's is my 2nd favorite ROM while Cosmik Debris is hands down the fastest, and most flawless ROM (no one complains about it... ever.... lol) and it's stripped from sense but you can install sense 2.1 or 2.5 via a cab file (I use sense 2.1 because of the speed) so if you want a fast ROM get Cosmik Debris or Jacko's ;p.
DJGonzo said:
I think you can add that w/o CHT
Some mods for Sense 2.5
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=101648
For some clocks
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=105069
I think that the performance increase is well worth being without HQ Wallpapers or Dual analog flip clock either way.
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Thanks for the link, but all I can find are clock arrays for sense 2.5.19xx. Are those compatible with 2016?
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how did you overclock?
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Here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290
I run my rhodium at 787 Mhz all time.
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Here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725290
I run my rhodium at 787 Mhz all time.
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Wow, how the battery goes?
Well, i've tested a lot of ROMs, so far i can say:
* Energy ROMs are very "nice" but too slow for me and has a very high RAM use.
* Jackos goes ok, i tried 3 of them, but several times calls goes to voicemail. And despite of his low RAM consuption, everything runs slow.
* Deepshining its ok, but too much loaded IMHO...
* I've tried some pair more like "kalimeo" but i dont remember his performance.
Now im using the WXC iluminati series ROM 21911, and i can say that is almost perfect.
Use sense 2.5 (can't remember wich version) and programs doesn't fly, but runs at a very very reasonable speed, enough for me, that i use my phone for work during all day.
The RAM after boot is about 56% and reach the 60% once you run and close some programs.
GPS locks in about 15-20 seconds after a boot. (i've seen faster ROMs, but al least locks)
Stable, fast, clean, and usefull.
I'd suggest to people to try out the new "simplicity" ROM. One of the fastest 2.5 w/ CHT ROMs that I've ever used! Still in it's earlier stages, but it's minus all the bloatware that seems to slow down most other ROMs!
anshkhanna said:
What about this simplicity ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734399
Any better than the Energy Reference?
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nackas said:
I'd suggest to people to try out the new "simplicity" ROM. One of the fastest 2.5 w/ CHT ROMs that I've ever used! Still in it's earlier stages, but it's minus all the bloatware that seems to slow down most other ROMs!
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I tired it before Energy "Reference' and its not that fast. I didn't like it because it was too 'simple' and CHT made it too slow. I should make a video of how fast my phone is right now.
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I should make a video of how fast my phone is right now.
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Can you youtube one for us?
DJGonzo said:
I tired it before Energy "Reference' and its not that fast. I didn't like it because it was too 'simple' and CHT made it too slow. I should make a video of how fast my phone is right now.
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Hmmm I downloaded Energy Reference, but decided to try simplicity first...
Might flash Reference tomorrow and see how it goes. Cheers
The unfortunate truth is that CHT is just toomuch for our poor Rhodiums . Till today the fastest/smoothest ROM I've used was JackOS oldschool. I just felt like I was cheating myself by running old software (WM 6.1 and Sense 2.1) though, I'm weird like that
It's just so difficult to give up the functionality of Cookies Home Tab for speed. I guess it's a trade that the user has to decide on.
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The unfortunate truth is that CHT is just toomuch for our poor Rhodiums . Till today the fastest/smoothest ROM I've used was JackOS oldschool. I just felt like I was cheating myself by running old software (WM 6.1 and Sense 2.1) though, I'm weird like that
It's just so difficult to give up the functionality of Cookies Home Tab for speed. I guess it's a trade that the user has to decide on.
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Its so slow after a while its just plain annoying. I rather not have some dumb gadget functionality and have my phone actually RESPOND, not make people wait cuz my phone takes forever to get to the home screen.
Plus a lot of CHT mods you can get them as standalones
Hi,
I am a newbie when it comes to smartphones and the rest. And this is exactly why I'd like to know what is/are the best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.
The criteria should be:
- Visual effects
- Responsiveness (speed)
- Ease of use
- Minimal usage of the RAM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
this coming also from a newbie, which is using this ROM for a couple of months now. good luck!
There is no "best" ROM. It depends on your individual needs and preferences. Many people here generally frown upon questions like this, because its an insult to the hard work that the chefs do to create the custom ROMs, to recommend one over the other.
At the risk of contradicting myself a bit, I know the choice can be overwhelming for n00bs. So I will just briefly mention my personal experience. I used Energy for a long time, tried Deep Shining, and simplicity is my current favorite. But that doesn't mean that other ROMs are not great also. Valkyrie and Jackos also get lots of good response on these forums.
Thank you very much! I'll read through right away!!!
Oops! I didn't know I was trespassing. However, thank you for understanding me. I'll further my research using the names of ROMs you've given me. Thank you once again!
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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Okay! But is it nice?
iamterence said:
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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I haven't try Touch Flo 3D rom But now I 'm running simplicity ROM. I think that 's very good as Redpoit73 said above. if you try I belive that you like it
gueyenono said:
Hi,
I am a newbie when it comes to smartphones and the rest. And this is exactly why I'd like to know what is/are the best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.
The criteria should be:
- Visual effects
- Responsiveness (speed)
- Ease of use
- Minimal usage of the RAM
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Try the JackOS ROM, i'm a fan! It's stable as a rock and he added OCT, so your phone is overclocked to 710Mhz by default.
He is a perfectionist as he wants to minimize memory leaks (read: low mem usage).
I can really recommend his roms
Grtz,
FeareX
I too am new to Windows Mobile and found my ATT Tilt 2 a bit slow.
I've HardSPLed my phone, loaded all the different ROMS from NRG and after running them for quite some time, and screwing with them found that there are things left out that only the stock ROM provides....as in:
GPS
keyboard functions even after loading the keyboard fix it will not retrack.
Widgets that go missing after you have set them up....
Little things.....
I went back to the upgraded ROM form HTC.
I would suggest the same....
There's crudscraper which will free up some space and a couple of cabs that will give you 16 quick links and contacts but.......
I would suggest loading the basic HTC rom and purchasing SPB Shell.
Quite frankly, IT WORKS.
Later....
Go find the ROMs Wildchild builds. They are like stock ROMs but MUCH MUCH more stable and fast. Lean and mean. Link in my sig.
My 2 cents. Tried many over extended period of time from:
- simplest eras2r (but one of the most solid-like-a-rock with a good battery and performance) to
- Energy's huge variety of choices
- Wild Child's
- Simplicity's (was not very simple for me, had a couple of stability issues)
- etc. etc. etc.
Has never had a chance to actually try Jackos's. Just now tried Jackos's full s2 ROM. Flying, tons of storage and program memory, right programs, right layout for me. If this baby is stable, not sure will ever look for something else.
My personal opinion go with latest Jackos ROM, OndraSter did also meke some good ones, but no sense ...
I guess there really isnt too much to say anymore but just to try them all... The only thing i do suggest is making sure you do the "task 29" ( forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191) between flashes just so u know ur getting the most purity from all ur roms. Different roms offer different things and as u go through there post the objectives of the roms. Another thing i suggest you try is, getting a rom like Jackos S2, disabling sence from the options and trying the android prj. But at the end of the day u find the rom that fits u!
What ROM cooked with Maxsense would you suggest to a newbie like me?