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I posted this question before, but no one answered. But this problem drives me crazy!
My Kaiser turned off when the battery was running out.
When I connect wall power to charge it, the orange LED indicates it was charging, but just few seconds later it automatically boot, and the orange LED was off.
The problem is, it can't boot into OS due to low battery(it only shows "Smart Mobility", but can't even enter bootloader mode) And only if it boots into OS successfully, it can be charged.
Anyone met this problem on any other devices before?
How can I stop auto boot when charging?
What can I do?
That must be something specific to the rom on yours... mine does not automatically boot when when power is applied (assuming it is off, not just in sleep mode), and it charges fine when powered off.
dscline said:
That must be something specific to the rom on yours... mine does not automatically boot when when power is applied (assuming it is off, not just in sleep mode), and it charges fine when powered off.
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Thanks
I use the ROM from this forum
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship
What is yours?
I'm just using the stock AT&T Tilt rom.
Here's the fix!
Yes, I've had the same problem a few times on my Vario (Wizard). Very annoying.
Here's what to do:
- Take a mini-usb cable (the one you use for sync and charging from a PC) and cut off the mini-USB connector
- Strip the wires
- Take the battery out of your TyTN
- Carefully connect the ground wire (black) with the ground connector (-) on the battery. Fix it with clear tape.
- Now do the same with the (+) (red wire).
- Attach the USB cable to a running PC and let the battery charge for about an hour. After that, put it back in your phone, you'll be able to boot it up and charge it the regular way.
Yes, it costs you a cable, but it solves the problem.
dscline said:
That must be something specific to the rom on yours... mine does not automatically boot when when power is applied (assuming it is off, not just in sleep mode), and it charges fine when powered off.
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I think you misunderstood. The problem is that the phone only charges when the OS has loaded completely. So if you really run your battery out completely and there is not enough power in your battery to boot up the phone (read: it turns off again before the boot has completed) you won't be able to charge it the regular way. SOMETIMES a heavier charger (2A) does seem to be able to charge the battery even with the OS shut down, but most of the times it won't work anymore... see below for fix.
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I think you misunderstood. The problem is that the phone only charges when the OS has loaded completely.
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That's not how I read the original post:
When I connect wall power to charge it, the orange LED indicates it was charging, but just few seconds later it automatically boot, and the orange LED was off.
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Based on this, it sounds like it is starting to charge without the phone booted (orange LED on), but for some reason it then automatically boots up, then crashes because there's not enough power(??)
But if the problem IS that the phone only charges when the OS has loaded, that is also not how my phone operates. In fact, that even goes against the manual, which tells you to plug the phone in (without turning on the phone) and let it charge fully for the initial charge before turning on the phone and allowing it to boot.
Sorry if I misunderstand, but neither way is how my phone operates... it can charge without the OS loaded, and the phone does not automatically boot once power is applied.
Not sure I fully understand what's going on here but, I am wondering if the power on/off button is stuck in (i.e the micro-switch is clicked in and not releasing). I cannot think of any other reason the device would turn on when connecting the charger if the device is powered completely off. ( Except perhaps shorted connections in the Usb port)
Mike
To SteRo:
Thx a lot for the solution, I tried, but still doesn't work.(I charge it more than 2 hours, and still can't boot into OS)
To mikechannon:
yes, it happened. :-( the power on/off button is NOT stucked. And the device is powered off completely.
To All:
Thx for your reply. What I mean is almost what dscline said:
It starts to charge without the phone booted (orange LED on), but for some reason it then automatically boots up(around 15 sec after I plugin power), meanwhile orange LED is off. But it can't load into OS, just re-boot again and again because there's no enough battery. That makes it's impossible to charge, 'coz it's only charged when the OS has loaded completely.
Anyway, I called customer service to ask them replace the battery. I may try to use different ROM and see what will happen. I'll post the result here.
It's also possible that it has nothing to do with the battery or charging at all. I just checked mine, and the charging indicator is lit with the unit off, but it does go out for a bit during the boot processes, then comes back on again. So what you're seeing with the charging light is normal. It may simply be that there's something corrupted, or some other failure with the device, that is causing it to not boot properly, and get stuck in a reboot loop. If so, it will probably do the same thing with a completely charged battery. You may have just been assuming that it was related to a low charge.
That's what I'm worry about,, Coz I can't boot it by SteRo's solution.
okay... they say trouble comes in three's...
Yesterday I flew to Asia, 20-hours with a full charge. No suprises during the trip. Checked email from Narita during the layover, no prob. But after I arrived in Taipei I received the low battery warning. Plugged in my usb-to-usb (notebook to kaiser) cable and "no charge light"!
This morning I plugged it into a ac battery charger and waited for >10 minutes, still no charge light.
Now, at the risk of a battery, I'm attempting to charge the battery removed from the kaiser using the previous mentioned method. In an hour I'll test it.
This afternoon I'll pick up a new battery charger and spare battery.
In 14-months with my trusty TyTN (cht9000) I never once had a problem like this... I'm a little bummed right now...
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okay -- battery is okay and can be charged externally (using the two wire method or an external battery charger). BUT... the device still won't take a charge using either a direct AC adapter or a USB cord. This was also retested after performing a hard-reset. Not a good sign folks.
The charger works (connected to a Trinity), so it's not the problem. They battery works (charged to 45% after 45-minutes connected to an external battery charger). The HTC OS after a clean hard-reset used to work but now doesn't, so it's unlikely it's software related.
I've made no other modifications to the bootloader or SSPL... everything is original stock. Wish I had my TyTN with me right about now...
Sounds like something I had on my previous TyTN:
The power connector was a bit flaky on my charger at home. So when I'd hookup the powerlead it would charge to 10 secs or so and then no longer charge. I had to put some pressure on the connector to have it continue to charge. So I put a ballpen on the powerlead, just under the phone, when charging.
It's a long shot - hope of use. When you've connected the phone to power, and the orange light goes off, try wiggeling the connector a bit - see if that helps.
Hope of use.
Re
OK,
I've got excactly the same problems... I dont want to make you illusions, but you cant solve it and you need to send it back for repair. Your usb connecter on your tytn is broken...
first i will tell my story...
My tytn did excactly the same, shows the led, powers on automatically (normally it don't do that, so it;s not a rom issue) and then powered down in the smart mobility screen. I tried 4 chargers, and 2 battery's. with a full battery it will power on and load windows, but unable to charge. with the empty battery it will power down in the smart mobility screen. soft reset, hard reset, it won't work.
You can check if it's the same problem, by attaching it to your usb on your computer and call up the bootscreen by pressing the camera button and stick your stylus in the soft reset hole. If it comes up with serial instead of usb, then your device usb connector is broken.
BUT, you can charge your battery in a very strange way i figured out. since i am on a buisness trip i need my phone and don't send it back!!!!!
ok, this is what you have to do, plug in the powercable, call the hard reset screen BUT DON'T APPLY!!!! you will notice it will not power down, so just leave it on this screen for a night with the cable connected. you don't see the charging light, but actually it is charging. for me this temporarely solution works fine... but when i'm back in about seven weeks i send it in for repair.
Hope this will help you!
Swiftgs:
Many thanks for your insight -- you are correct, in bootloader mode the Serial shows instead of USB. I just purchased a spare battery (1100mAh, made in Taiwan) and battery charger for US$17. It'll get me through my business trip, but this is disappointing. As I mentioned in my earlier post, I used a TyTN for 14-months (July 2006 to Sept 2007) as my primary phone, recharging it daily via the USB connector and on a desk charger in my office. I can only conclude that if the USB is physically damaged (not evident visually), then it is not as robust as the USB port used in the original TyTN. The strangest part of all is it worked perfectly until the battery level fell below 10%...
FWIW: I purchased the phone through R&D Marketing. Ron Webber quickly responded to my note and gave me a contact at HTC America. I'll follow-up
after I return and report my experience.
Cheers
well, thanks for all of your replies/infomation.
I tried evey possible methods mentioned above, unfortunatelly none of them works :-(
and the most depressed thing is I filnally get a new battery, but it still doesn't work!
So I sent it back to repair, cross figure...
It works
I would like to thanx 2 SteRo for his advice. I am using Qtek 9000 and had the same problem. Battery was empty, and I tried many times to turn on my PPC, but without success. All the time when red light appeared after 10-15 sec display become black and tried to restart from boot again, and it's happened many times. Finally I thought that I just can trow my Qtek, but seeing your recommendation decided to try. I took USB cable cut it and strap the wires. Connecting red on (+) and black on (-) after 1 hour charging I was able to start my PPC, to recharge battery by 100% and it is working now OK. I must check duration of the battery tomorrow, because reason why I discharged battery was automatic turn off of my PPC when it was on around 45-50% battery capacity. Tomorrow I will check how it's working when I recharge battery again.
Dear SteRo you are the king.
My sister's boyfriend gave me his Tilt because he bought a Blackberry. Long story, he broke the first Tilt, they replaced it for him and he broke it again and he was told it would cost $500 to repair... so he bought the new phone and gave me the Tilt for free. So here's the deal: it will charge and turn on.. but only stays on for a few seconds. The LCD is cracked... pretty obvious. However, I was wondering if there was another problem since the phone won't stay on or if it's typical for it to turn off with just a broken screen. This is basically the sequence of events:
Hit the power button, a green LED on the left of the ear piece lights up and the phone vibrates for a second.
The screen then lights up but doesn't display anything obviously... other then the black liquid and white back lighting.
The screen stays on for about 15 seconds, shuts off, the keyboard lights up for a VERY quick second and then that's it... nothing else.
I'm wondering if I should try and find a replacement screen or if there is something else wrong with it. I saw the screen on phoneystore.com a while back but the site has said it's down for maintenance every other time I checked.
Other Info - I took the back cover off and above and slightly to the right of the camera is a black dot that says "VOID".
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks.
Normally you only get the vibrate if you are turning on from the completely off position.
From the completely off position you have to long press the on/off button - is this what you are doing?
In any case, it's difficult to tell if there are any other problems. You could try tracking down on this site, one of thoses applications that lets you see / control the device from your PC.
That $500 figure is I assume for someone to do the repair for you, 'osc the screen would not cost anything like that.
Mike
Also that "void" dot you see I think is just over a screw and if you go inside your tilt you'd have to poke through that and it would void your warranty. So thats not because the screen is broken.
well, i don't have to hold it long before the green LED comes on and the phone vibrates... then the screen shuts off and i have to turn it back on again. it doesn't seem like it's staying on.
the $500 was from AT&T to have them fix it... so yes.
and thanks for the reply on the "VOID" - i thought it maybe had something to do with water damage or the cracked screen.
Have you tried turning it on with the wall charger plugged in? I thought I had seen my sons just shut down like that when his battery was pretty much dead and I was trying to turn it on.
Well, i was bored waiting for work this morning so i decided to put the SIM from my phone into the Tilt... I turned it on with my SIM in and it stayed on for longer... then I heard a little tick and kind of "whooosh" sound which I'm assuming is the start-up sound. Then nothing for a few seconds... then there is this "kerplunk" noise.. then the amber LED on the left of the ear piece starts flashing and then the phone starts vibrating and making a high pitch ring... the vibrating seems to be in a patter. Then I hear what sounds like it may be a shutdown noise and the phone is off again. However, the back light on the screen remained on the entire time. It might that with the SIM in it works, but the battery is dead so it turns right off? I have the wall charger here somewhere so I will have to try that after work. I will let you know the results.
most likely the sounds that your hearing are just an alarm clock going off. my guess is that the screen is the only thing that is really damaged. you can look online at ebay and get replacement screens with the tools necessary to replace the screen for under 100 bucks. i think that would be a good deal for you... keep us updated on the status
if possible if you are going to replace the screen from ebay you should take piectures. it would make a very nice guide for the noobs
yeah... i will definitely take pictures when i do it. i hope it's just the screen. i don't know why it won't stay on tho... i'm still trying to find the charger for it. i don't remember where i put it. i will keep you posted tho.
You can charge it with any USB mini type B lead plugged into a PC. You probably have one somewhere for a camera or other phone.
Don't be fooled by the shape of the socket on the bottom of the phone, it still fits.
mikechannon - do you know the name of any of these apps? i'm not able to find anything..
good news tho.. the phone now stays on and i am able to receive phone calls. i found a screen w/ tools for $70 shipped on e-bay. i want to try what you mentioned mike, hook it up to the pc. i just want to make sure everything seems okay before i buy a screen.
try my mobiler
okay... so i put the new LCD in and it works.. to an extent. it displays the at&t splash screen, then the 3G animation, then gets to the windows mobile 6.0 splash screen and it hangs there for a few seconds then shuts off. i thought maybe it needed a new battery because it wouldn't stay on before so i ran to the store and got one and it's charging now. i'm going to wait a few hours and try again...
when i try and turn the phone on when it's plugged into the charger it seems to hang on the at&t screen... this doesn't seem normal.
also, when it's not plugged in and goes through the screens, on the at&T screen it looks like it's showing RGB values or something in red text in the bottom right corner of the screen. is this normal?
Sorry, did not see your 3/22/08 post.
The RGD values in RED are normal (info about radio version etc) if you are starting from the off position or have just done a soft reset.
I'm not sure why it is hanging at the point it does. I am assuming you have done a hard reset? (you may have said - but I have not read back all the posts)
Mike
nope... no hard reset.
when i turn it on while it's plugged in the amber LED on the ear piece goes out for a minute, the AT&T screen comes up then a few seconds later the amber LED comes back on and it just stays there.
i was able to get it to get past the windows mobile 6.0 splash screen but it says 6 new notifications/alarms, then starts buzzing and ringing and turns off. one time it said battery was critically low or something. i want to assume that it is charging because the amber LED comes on.. but who knows. i would hate to have to give up at this point.
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nope... no hard reset.
when i turn it on while it's plugged in the amber LED on the ear piece goes out for a minute, the AT&T screen comes up then a few seconds later the amber LED comes back on and it just stays there.
i was able to get it to get past the windows mobile 6.0 splash screen but it says 6 new notifications/alarms, then starts buzzing and ringing and turns off. one time it said battery was critically low or something. i want to assume that it is charging because the amber LED comes on.. but who knows. i would hate to have to give up at this point.
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Actually that all sounds pretty normal. Yes expect to get a whole bunch of notifications that have accumulated and never been cancelled. When they come up try to cancel them quickly - just choose dismiss. Don't be surprised if there are so many that it crashes the device and you have to re-start possibly several times until eventually you get past all those notifications!! This also happens when you restore a backup - I have seen my device go absolutely bananas with many many notifications and a crash is not unexpected.
If the battery is not charged give it a good hour of charging before trying again. One thing that puzzles me is that if you have the amber light that shows charging (good) then why does it give you a message saying battery low?? Normally you will never get that notification whilst on charge.
Mike
mike,
thanks for the replies. i was able to dismiss a few of them earlier and then the battery message came up and the phone turned off. it wasn't plugged in at the time. however, i left for the day and left it plugged in for probably 7 hours or more...turned completely off...and i came home and it got past the windows splash screen again and then said the main battery was critically low and turned off. can't get it to stay on now. i'm lost...
it seems like my only other option is to try a new charger.. but if the LED comes on it would seem as though it is working. i checked all of the contacts where the battery goes and like i said earlier, i bought a new battery this morning. i really don't want to take it apart again. while it was apart i did my best to clean the any dust or other build-up. i guess i could try and charge it on the computer.
my phone does the same thing I accidently dunked about an inch of it the top of the phone into a cup, thought it was ok after i let it dry off and it would boot up but I still can't get the phone to really charge, the orange light will go on but the battery never charges and I used to get the red critical battery warning. Ive tried a bunch of different chargers but still nothing just gets to the second splash screen in duttys rom and turns off now. Hopefully you can get your up though, just wish i could get 30 minutes of battery to get it back to stock rom and everything so i could send it back as the bottom never got wet and the water check under the battery is still white.
Mmmm. Well sounds like there is a hardware charging problem. Pity you don't have one of those chargers where you can dock a spare battery to charge it up. It would be a hassle though if that's the only way to charge the battery. There are ways to charge the battery by wiring the battery directly to a set of AA batteries or a charger, but that would not solve the problem in the long run.
There are companies that will replace the USB connection on the M/board but that would be to assume that is where the fault is - and I'm not convinced it is. The fact that the orange charge LED comes on suggests the USB connection may be ok and that it may be the battery connection block that has a broken connection. This is not easy to repair if at all. I have seen one reported case where that block with the gold connectors had broken connections and a repair company could not resolder all the connections.
One thing to try regarding the battery connector block. With the luck of the Gods it might just be that one or more pins is not making a good batter contact. Try cleaning the pins and battery contacts. (A bit of a forlorn hope though)
Mike
well, good news!
i left it plugged into the computer all night and turned it on this morning and it went through all of the alarms... i dismissed them all. it then stayed on!!! so i went to the system settings and looked at the battery life and it said it was at 100%. perhaps it was the charger... which would be odd. now when it's plugged into the PC the amber LED comes on for a second then switches to green. i'm going to try and use it for the day and make sure i can turn it on and off without any problems. the AT&T store is closed here today so i'll have to get a charger one day during the week. i will post back at the end of the day.
My phone suffered some water damage and everything seems fine except for whatever piece of hardware checks if the battery is fully charged (is it on the battery itself?). The amber charging light was on for 5 hours and yet my phone would just boot up to the Today screen, produce a Battery Low message and shut off. I had my phone in the bootloader for a few minutes so I was fairly certain that the battery was charged. By some stroke of luck, I was able to use my phone for a short time. The phone recognized that the battery was full and I was able to browse the internet, make calls, etc. When I rebooted the phone to check if this was a permanent change, I found out that it was not. My phone went back to shutting off upon startup.
Is there a registry entry to disable automatic shut off? I could cook a crude ROM with just this registry entry so that at least my phone would be functional.
Or do I need a new battery?
Thanks in advance for your help
im having similar issue but not from water.. every time i use speakerphone the phone dies or using the camera.. this happens most of the time if i use either one.. im thinking its battery shorting out maybee.. once i plug it in via use or ac to give it power its fine.. i have a replacement battery coming so i hope that will fix it
My Kaiser phone also suffered some water damage from a spilt bottle of water. The amber charging light was on for hours and yet my phone would just boot up to the Today screen, produce a Battery Low message and shut off. By some stroke of luck, I was able to use my phone for a short time after the phone recognized that the battery was full and I was able to make calls etc. When I rebooted the phone after charging to check if this was a permanent change, I found out that it was not. My phone went back to shutting off upon startup. Brought a new battery but still experiencing the same problem. HELP
I recently went on a 3 month trip. Before I left, my nook was working perfectly fine, when i got back, it didn't work at all. It's not dead because i left it plugged in overnight but it still didn't turn on. when i plug it in the LED goes from orange to green and then off (or green to orange, i can't remember). The screen doesn't turn on at all. I can't get to recovery either.
This is a Nook HD, I believe it had CM11.
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Can this be fixed
or should i plan it's funeral
Same here
The same has happened to me. Screen doesn't turn on, but there is power, I can play it into my laptop and something is there, just not enough.
Good excuse for a new tablet!
It can be fixed. I've done it before. It has to do with the fstrim not being compatible with certain hardware versions of our device. If I can remember how I fixed it, I'll post it here. Trying to fix mine (again).
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It can be fixed. I've done it before. It has to do with the fstrim not being compatible with certain hardware versions of our device. If I can remember how I fixed it, I'll post it here. Trying to fix mine (again).
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If would be fab if you could fix. Seems to be a common issue
I was able to fix it. YMMV.
1) Make sure the Nook is completely off and unplugged
2) Take out your sdcard
3) Hold down power button until the "battery depleted" icon shows, then promptly plug in the power before the icon disappears.
4) Let it set. The screen will go black, then it will attempt to boot and get stuck on the faint black screen, but this time, the charging light should stay amber.
If you want to be safe, wait until the device reboots itself. That could take hours though. If you're plugged into the wall wait at least 30 - 45 minutes before holding the power button down til it shuts down and then rebooting it (with the sdcard inserted).
Good luck, I hope it works for you.
EDIT: Also, I've read this may also have to do with wifi sending the device into some sort of strange bootloop when the screen is off. I personally believe it has more to do with the fstrim of JB but perhaps changing the wifi sleep policy may prevent this issue from happening again. I'm skeptical, but figured I'd pass that info along if anyone wants to try it as well.
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I was able to fix it. YMMV.
1) Make sure the Nook is completely off and unplugged
2) Take out your sdcard
3) Hold down power button until the "battery depleted" icon shows, then promptly plug in the power before the icon disappears.
4) Let it set. The screen will go black, then it will attempt to boot and get stuck on the faint black screen, but this time, the charging light should stay amber.
If you want to be safe, wait until the device reboots itself. That could take hours though. If you're plugged into the wall wait at least 30 - 45 minutes before holding the power button down til it shuts down and then rebooting it (with the sdcard inserted).
Good luck, I hope it works for you.
EDIT: Also, I've read this may also have to do with wifi sending the device into some sort of strange bootloop when the screen is off. I personally believe it has more to do with the fstrim of JB but perhaps changing the wifi sleep policy may prevent this issue from happening again. I'm skeptical, but figured I'd pass that info along if anyone wants to try it as well.
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Not sure we have the same problem. My screen doesn't come on at all, I don't get a battery depleted icon, no matter how long I hold in the power button. The only sign of life I get is when it's plugged in, when it goes from orange to green after about 10 seconds.
Thanks for the help, but I think it's a lost cause.
YMMV. But mine was the same issue. You should be able to get the icon by holding the power button down for 5 or 6 seconds. I'd say just eff with it until that icon appears. Try different button combinations. I used power and home trying to get the icon to show.
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when it goes from orange to green after about 10 seconds.
Thanks for the help, but I think it's a lost cause.
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Anyway... since people are continually running into this kind of issue...
Give or take 21 seconds after turning orange it turns green during actual boot cycle into rom
Give or take 10 seconds after turning orange is cwm internal recovery.
After about 10 seconds the charging screen image disappears.
The charging screen image once finally no longer may not show up again until full power off/on (holding power button > 10 seconds or full battery discharge). Unplugging and plugging back in does nothing except making the device look bricked if there's too much light shining on it.
Device may not automatically leave the above state under a specific situation(s). May still need manual full power off/on.
Guessing 10 seconds could also be something else during the early/late boot process or other. The light changing color though should indicate that something is indeed happening.
Light should stay green during the boot process if its completely and fully no questions asked 100%. If you go based on that than yours doesn't appear to be completely fully charged which should either mean its turning on and using battery or not charging correctly.
The light turning off is curious. The device could be shutting off. If light comes back on a moment later then the device has rebooted. if the light stays off = n/a.
If its booting into recovery then the device would be available via adb. At that point it could be further evaluated.
On the off chance the screen was damaged it should boot and usb should be available via computer as well as adb.
If not then its probably toast unless its simply not getting a good enough current causing mislead battery stats and/or not enough energy to get to charging screen (bad wall power adapter in use, damaged power cable - though could be bad battery, defect, damage or whatever). OR there's some major error on behalf of the user happening (think should have tried that in the morning not while 1/2 asleep or came home from long trip and forget how that works).
Maybe the only other things are the emmc brick bug, was left sitting in the sun or heat or ocean air or other physical damage/defect even to the power port as well.
Or maybe it was mad that you left it. Shouldn't have hurt its feelings you know. At least its not crying battery acid on you.
That should just about cover everything except for the things not mentioned. Since its your device, you decide what happened.
Its complicated so anyone see any improvements, clarifications, or mistakes? Please put it in a post.
Jsorren said:
when i plug it in the LED goes from orange to green and then off (or green to orange, i can't remember). The screen doesn't turn on at all.
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Bumping this thread to make it aware that there is a real answer. I have been able to duplicate this problem and rather easily too.
The problem is indeed from bad power. The device isn't receiving the correct amount of power needed to charge and start from a fully discharged battery.
To safely* duplicate this you can use a usb extension that isn't fully connected to the nook power cable. You may need to fully connect it first then slowly disconnect/connect till the light turns green when it should actually be charging. It won't actually charge in this state, or if it is, its very little and the battery percentage will continue to drop.
Leave the cable as is and unplugged. After the tablet is fully discharged, connect the usb cable. The light will change through the modes and turn off. The device will not turn on.
There are probably other ways to cause the problem like for instance a portable usb battery that doesn't put out enough juice (not the orange kind). Etc.
* It didn't hurt mine, but not my fault if it breaks your device.
sandsofmyst said:
Bumping this thread to make it aware that there is a real answer. I have been able to duplicate this problem and rather easily too.
The problem is indeed from bad power. The device isn't receiving the correct amount of power needed to charge and start from a fully discharged battery.
To safely* duplicate this you can use a usb extension that isn't fully connected to the nook power cable. You may need to fully connect it first then slowly disconnect/connect till the light turns green when it should actually be charging. It won't actually charge in this state, or if it is, its very little and the battery percentage will continue to drop.
Leave the cable as is and unplugged. After the tablet is fully discharged, connect the usb cable. The light will change through the modes and turn off. The device will not turn on.
There are probably other ways to cause the problem like for instance a portable usb battery that doesn't put out enough juice (not the orange kind). Etc.
* It didn't hurt mine, but not my fault if it breaks your device.
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I actually ended up fixing it yesterday!! I haven't touched it in about 3 months, and I was planning on just throwing it out getting rid of it some how. For the heck of it, I decided to plug it in, assuming that it was gonna go through the same process. But this time it went from green to amber, but it never went off. So I pressed the power button and the battery icon appeared. This was a really good sign. So I left plugged in for about 5 to 10 minutes then tried to power on.:fingers-crossed: As soon as I saw that '' Nook" boot up screen, my heart stopped. It booted up perfectly and I almost blew up from excitement :victory:. So I then flashed the stock firmware back onto it, so this would never happen again.
I guess the battery had to be completely depleted or just had to cool down. Idk but either way this was one heck of a miracle
So I recommend for anyone having this problem to just leave it off and don't mess with it. I wouldn't say for 3 months like I did but maybe test it each week or wait a month if you have good patience
Wow. Man, that's awesome! Glad you posted that update on it. Thought if you had posted an update it would be the opposite as in trashed it
Actually, I guess only you could answer if you had also moved/unplugged the power cable from the wall adapter or put it into a different wall adapter, etc. Thinking there could have been a difference there.
These modern day devices are so finicky, guess anything is possible. Like you say, maybe sitting without power is another answer.
From some experimentation I have etermined that your power adapter (that plugs into the outlet) is the issue. It does not like to be leaft plugged in indefinately. It will continually use power even when the nook is not plugged in.
Also, if you use a differnt adapter you will have the same problem unless it is also of the exact same voltage and amps.
I know this phone is old and a new one has been ordered, but I just want to get some pictures off of it before it becomes trash. I can only get it to turn on to the logo screen and then it goes off. It won't charge, but will show the led from time to time blinking red and the battery icon on the screen and then it disappears. I can get to the bootloader screen, but it's locked so I can't do anything. Any suggestions/help? Please?!
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I know this phone is old and a new one has been ordered, but I just want to get some pictures off of it before it becomes trash. I can only get it to turn on to the logo screen and then it goes off. It won't charge, but will show the led from time to time blinking red and the battery icon on the screen and then it disappears. I can get to the bootloader screen, but it's locked so I can't do anything. Any suggestions/help? Please?!
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It's not clear to me exactly what your issue is (don't have 1+) but does sound like charging issue, might just be usb connector (damaged/dirty) or more problematicly the battery or battery charging circuitry. A usb connector with debris in should be easier fix.
If you have some electrical knowledge (or take to repair shop & they can do it) you should be able to overcome phone not charging by opening phone up to either charge battery via accessing back of usb connector/pcb/pwb or connect another battery. (Be careful playing with electricity & charges )
Note: if the battery has been run down too far by you keep turning it on then the battery will not charge normally again as it needs some residual charge in it to become charged (ie when your phone shows zero charge really the battery retains a few % otherwise it's impossible to recharge, though a special charger can supply a high charge initially to bring them back to life sometimes, but you probably need a battery specialist for that, so much easier to swap battery)
if it's soft brick then that is a whole different story.
I'm not electrically inclined, so I'll likely take it to a local shop. Thanks for your response.