I know this phone is old and a new one has been ordered, but I just want to get some pictures off of it before it becomes trash. I can only get it to turn on to the logo screen and then it goes off. It won't charge, but will show the led from time to time blinking red and the battery icon on the screen and then it disappears. I can get to the bootloader screen, but it's locked so I can't do anything. Any suggestions/help? Please?!
Noobalicious said:
I know this phone is old and a new one has been ordered, but I just want to get some pictures off of it before it becomes trash. I can only get it to turn on to the logo screen and then it goes off. It won't charge, but will show the led from time to time blinking red and the battery icon on the screen and then it disappears. I can get to the bootloader screen, but it's locked so I can't do anything. Any suggestions/help? Please?!
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It's not clear to me exactly what your issue is (don't have 1+) but does sound like charging issue, might just be usb connector (damaged/dirty) or more problematicly the battery or battery charging circuitry. A usb connector with debris in should be easier fix.
If you have some electrical knowledge (or take to repair shop & they can do it) you should be able to overcome phone not charging by opening phone up to either charge battery via accessing back of usb connector/pcb/pwb or connect another battery. (Be careful playing with electricity & charges )
Note: if the battery has been run down too far by you keep turning it on then the battery will not charge normally again as it needs some residual charge in it to become charged (ie when your phone shows zero charge really the battery retains a few % otherwise it's impossible to recharge, though a special charger can supply a high charge initially to bring them back to life sometimes, but you probably need a battery specialist for that, so much easier to swap battery)
if it's soft brick then that is a whole different story.
I'm not electrically inclined, so I'll likely take it to a local shop. Thanks for your response.
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Hello folks, this is my verry verry first post so sorry if its not conform the rules
a few weeks ago my phone fell on the floor, and the battery acts weird.
It shuts off after i call 3 minutes claiming the battery to be epty, but when i remove the battery and put it back in again, it shows as full.
two days ago i messed up my phone and i thought well i flash it back
(note: i flashed my madonna before and it always went well)
But now, it flashes all the way to 80% or sometimes even 99% and then it shuts off, starting to blink the tricoloured bootscreen on and off.
when i put in the AC charger it stops blinking showing the tricolour screen steady.
ive been searching for ways to flash the phone from SD-Card so i can kepe the AC-Charger connected, but all i can find on the net is a way to backup the old rom to SD-Card and reflash it from that?
But.. i cant access the old rom anymore?
its from the wizard wiki page
I'm seriously thinking i have a rather expensive paper press, please tell me there's ways to fix it using SD-Card?
i cant order a new battery untill 3 weeks from now, which i really cant survive without my companion hehehe
just turn your phone on and flash it with rom again
The problem is your battery doesn't have enough charge and might be going bad. It will charge on the wall charger even though the tricolor screen is showing, but I believe it charges slowly. Try letting it charge overnight.
I had a similar problem and now my phone is fine.
You can order a new battery for under $10 from ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Cingular-HTC-81...ryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
same problem
I have the same problem. Loaded the battery for a whole night, but still it stops at 80% or so....
My battery had huge powerdrain, especcially using bluetooth, before flashing.
I orderded a new one, still waiting. I'll let know if it soves the problem.
If there are any onther experiences i'll be happy to read.
well, so far no luck.
sopme say, the printplate broke, (the greenish thingy with all the odd meganics on them?)
other say there's a transistor mallfunctioning, and some others even dare say its nokia's fault (dont ask me why!) for now, i simply believe im stuck with a rather expensive paperweight
even tho i tried charging it for 3 days nonstop, put the battery in the fridge, nothing worked, i guess ill mail T-Mobile seeing as how im due to prolong my contract, amybe they can do me a favor instead of making me wait a few more months
how to reecharge battery
1. get a hold of a USB cable for the computer(one that you dont usually use)
2. (not connected to the computer) you would need to cut off the end that plugs in you phone and then you will see 4 different wires. you will only be using the red and black wire so just strip those two.
3. take the battery off the phone, plug you phone to the wall charger w/out the battery, and connect the USB wire to you computer(make sure the red and black wires are not touching)
4. touch the red and black wires to the positive and negative end of the battery(the battery has labels of which one is the positive and negative part)
5. hold it there for 10 secs then quickly transfer the battery into the phone. after 3 secs of being in the phone, it should start right up.
this steps also depends on how long your battery has been dead. the maximum time you would do this is 3 times. after that and still not working, thats a confirmation of your battery being a done.
Chaps
Yesterday my 6515 stopped cooperate with me! Totally!
- I didn't dropped him or physically damaged,
- The battery was charged in 85% just before it was switched off itself
- Back cover closed with no gaps between cover and body
- Was fully functional when suddenly switched off
- I didn't upgraded anythihng before.
Symptoms:
- Ipaq is not reacting on start button
- Not reacting on reset
- Not reacting on hard reset
- The left diode blinking red during charging via usb cradle when I’m pressing power up button
- The same happens with regular charger
- During charging with regular charger when I’m opening the back panel the diode stop blink and become flash continuously in red.
I have already tried almost everything to start it up:
Changed the battery,
Open, close the back battery panel
With and without SD card
Appreciate any HELP!
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Ok I have made some progress..
Now I can see the bootloader screen and that's it.
What to do next ???
Im not sure what blinking red means but when you remove the backcover, the red led will lite up.
Try to do a hard reset, and see if it restarts without going to bootloader. Otherwise, you will probably need to upgrade the firmware from the bootloader screen. Download the latest rom updates from hp.
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Im not sure what blinking red means but when you remove the backcover, the red led will lite up.
Try to do a hard reset, and see if it restarts without going to bootloader. Otherwise, you will probably need to upgrade the firmware from the bootloader screen. Download the latest rom updates from hp.
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Thanks for reply
Indeed! When I opened back cover the led become flash continuously!
I have tried to apply the rom update from HP unfortunately all of the updates have to be done through Active sync!
It is impossible in current situation because of pressing Power+Joystick+Reset the ootloader screen appear but then nothing This is happens only when PDA is charging with regular charger. Using USB charge or battery power I can't even start the bootloader screen.
From where can I download the SD bootable image or how to make it?
And again small step ahead:
Hi
And again small step ahead:
In craddle there is another input for power so I managed to power it up and connect.
I had to switch of firewall (otherwise i have error 601 - unable to connect the device or something simmillar) and reinstall Active sync back to 3.8
Got bootloader screen USB and hp logo and v 021
by running romupdate utility downloaded from hp site ( whatever the version is ) I finally recognized my model version: it is 6515c
Next
Found valid version from HP site for 6515c ( i think 1.21) and successfully upgraded. No breaks, no other issues just successfully uploadede into finish.
Then hard reset and......
The system starts, screen flashes up, system start loading and the screen fading out. ... and again ..... and again ...... and again and the nothing!
I have tried again to pull out back cover, remove batery, put it back after some time, place back the cover and again.
Nothin' Nada Null %$#@%!$#ing piece of junk.
BTW it is happening only where PDA it is connected to AC power. On battery system is not booting, no booloader nothing!
Any suggestions? Pleeeeeeeease!
After you upgraded the firmware and it started up, was this done with the pda on AC or battery power? If its on battery and it starts fading, your battery is probably screwed. Did you also know there are 2 batteries in the IPaq?
Oh and if its a battery problem, you will need to leave the battery+pda connected to the AC for a while before it can startup and probably into booloader. Run your firmware upgrade again and power it on with the AC connected! If it boots up fine, then monitor the battery status bars in the Power settings and see if both the LiIon and NiMh batteries are holding charge. Hopefully from here you can find a dead battery.
Another thing you could try is to reset the battery when in bootloader mode once you are certain its the battery
http://blogs.unbolt.net/index.php/brinley/2006/08/02/howto_reset_discharged_battery_for_ipaq_6515
Battery reset? Could might be the issue?
Hi
I really appreciate your response.
The whole upgrade and the other stuff have been done with inserted battery and AC connected.
I plugged the PDA into the cradle which was connected to PC via USB and I plugged also AC into the cradle AC input.
It is fading just after reboot only when the iPAQ is connected to AC power (of course battery is inserted otherwise it will not startup anyway.)
On pure battery power it doesn’t giving any signs of living whatever button has been pressed.
The link you provided might contain very valuable directions to me. The man is learning within whole life and dying still being stupid.
I thought that I read the info from the site you suggested but I probably missed the meaning of the post regarding battery reset. That might be this. I will check and update you very soon.
I did the steps from above link. The iPAQ rebooted, started to load the os and again faded out….
Question to everybody:
During bootloader screen appear should I have any diode flashing blinking or whatever
I’m asking because of mine is blind!
Nothing is flashing, blinking, beaming or shining. Just two, completely dead diodes.
Hi, I've just found out what flashing red means
"green blinking means GSM coverage, yellow blinking - missed reminder or alarm clock signal, permanent yellow - recharging, green - the battery is full, red blinking means greatly discharged battery, pale blue blinking - Bluetooth is on"
I think one of your batteries is dead, and if you have already replaced to LiIon battery then you'll probably have to try to replace the NiMh one inside. I cant think of anything else to try
Battery????
Damn!
I think I have a hardware problem! I have 2 batteries: one brand new and the old one. Both not working! Moreover they're not charging! They suppose to charge when I put PDA into the craddle or directly plug to AC charger but they aren't.
No diode is flashing during charging. Damn.
I will try to borrow one battery from one of my friend just to check if this is it!
I will let you know later on.
If I recall correctly, the charging led does not light up in bootloader mode. I maybe wrong though. I think you should try to check the voltage in the LiIon battery to determine if they are being charged.
Also you never mentioned checking the backup NiMh battery. I believe that the NiMh battery is required to power up of the ipaq as well so it may be the cause of your ipaq dying after starting up.
NiMh backup battery
Fortunately I know someone who can charge the battery for me. There will be no problem with that.
From the other side I'm worry about the phone charging....
Why I can't charge the battery using iPAQ?
Next you mentioned about "NiMh battery". I'm sorry for my ignorance but what is that?
Is it secondary battery ?????
Is there any way to charge or replace it? Is it pluggable battery? Where is located?
Yes there is a secondary battery. However, I do not know where it is either.
Here is an example from a different PDA
http://paulstravelpictures.com/HP-iPAQ-HX4700-PDA-Backup-Battery-Replacement-Guide/index.html
If you want to open up your IPAQ do it at your OWN RISK!
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Yes there is a secondary battery. However, I do not know where it is either.
Here is an example from a different PDA
http://paulstravelpictures.com/HP-iPAQ-HX4700-PDA-Backup-Battery-Replacement-Guide/index.html
If you want to open up your IPAQ do it at your OWN RISK!
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You don't need to touch that one, this battery is designed for save your data when you exchange the main battery.
commanddos said:
Damn!
I think I have a hardware problem! I have 2 batteries: one brand new and the old one. Both not working! Moreover they're not charging! They suppose to charge when I put PDA into the craddle or directly plug to AC charger but they aren't.
No diode is flashing during charging. Damn.
I will try to borrow one battery from one of my friend just to check if this is it!
I will let you know later on.
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Commadnnos,
Sound like your 6515 has battery charging problem. If the charging failed, even you have brand new battery, it won't be charged at all.
Since you have two batteries, you might want to buy a external battery charger to prove those two batteries are good.
I think the charge circuit is in the second PCB board which under the keyboard inside your 6515; if those batteries are good, you might want to buy a dead 6515 and replace it by yourself...
Cheers,
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Commadnnos,
Sound like your 6515 has battery charging problem. If the charging failed, even you have brand new battery, it won't be charged at all.
Since you have two batteries, you might want to buy a external battery charger to prove those two batteries are good.
I think the charge circuit is in the second PCB board which under the keyboard inside your 6515; if those batteries are good, you might want to buy a dead 6515 and replace it by yourself...
Cheers,
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Well Well Well ..... it is getting wormer. Many thanks to everyone who are still trying to help me out. Thanks again.
Is that mean the secondary battery is located under the keyboard? I saw the photos from unassembled 6515 and it looks like the secondary battery. To replace it you have to first remove 3 screws, unplug the LCD and remove whole main board.
Is that means that the charging circuit has been built in the keyboard plate?
Thank You all. Patient died......
I would like to thank everyone for help. I think we can close this thread over here.
My beetle just went out into the "digital heaven".
The HP support specialist ensured me (without any tips or hints from my side) that mainly there is a problem with passing the power from the charger to the battery which means no more no less like ".... dude your motherboard is screwed. You have to get the new one or whatever...!"
So now it is a time for selling the rest of the parts on auctions......
R.I.P (Rust In Peace)
if the red light blinks
1 your battery has problem
or
2 your battery cover has problem. The plastic part on the back of your battery cover may have broken which touchs the microswith on the mainboard.
if that microswitch is not triggered , the hw65xx,hw69xx will not turn on.
Hello my Xperia Sp just run out of battery and shut down.I pluged it in saw the sony logo and when i tried to turn it on it would not respond.
The only thing it did was kept the red light on (indicating charging).I tried pressing the off button for over 30 seconds with no results. Not it is stuck and i cant do anything about that.
Help please.
Nevermind the problem got fixed by itself.
The battery (about 2 % run out and the phone kinda reseted itself.It opened just fine.
So if anyone else gets this problem just let your battery drain itself.
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Hello my Xperia Sp just run out of battery and shut down.I pluged it in saw the sony logo and when i tried to turn it on it would not respond.
The only thing it did was kept the red light on (indicating charging).I tried pressing the off button for over 30 seconds with no results. Not it is stuck and i cant do anything about that.
Help please.
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Just to confirm you plugged it into a mains supply? USB from your computer to phone charging is not enough to kick start a totally dead battery.
If you have plugged it in to a wall socket and it still doesn't work, give it some time.
I think the battery and the phone's software combine to stop the phone operating at unsafe voltages, the safe operating range for a standard lithium ion batteries is 3.2-4.2 volts (though android may be different). They spend most of their time at 3.7 volts though and this is why they are described as such when you buy them separately.
If, for some reason your phone's software thinks your battery is at 3.1 volts, it won't do anything until it thinks it's at 3.2. Similarly if a protected battery is taken below 3.2 volts it won't provide any power until it hits its minimum voltage. In theory your phone should have cut out before the protection cut in, but bad stuff happens to good people.
Sometimes a protected battery gets drained so much that the tiny flow of electricty required to power the protection circuit stops and as the ultimate failsafe, protected batteries stop working when this circuit is not functioning.
(I'm talking about standard batteries here, not necessarily phone ones)
Sometimes cheap basic chargers won't be able to get such batteries working, but better chargers are able to send tiny trickles to a battery to start the protection circuit and make such batteries charge again. I'd be very surprised if android didn't take this into account and have some way of ensuring over-discharged batteries with a tripped protection circuit can be charged. That said I'm not sure whether the protection is all software on mobile phones?
Like I say give it some time - getting that first .1 of a volt can take a while when the battery is totally flat. If it hasn't changed after at least 2 hours then I'd worry.
Parkside said:
Just to confirm you plugged it into a mains supply? USB from your computer to phone charging is not enough to kick start a totally dead battery.
If you have plugged it in to a wall socket and it still doesn't work, give it some time.
I think the battery and the phone's software combine to stop the phone operating at unsafe voltages, the safe operating range for a standard lithium ion batteries is 3.2-4.2 volts (though android may be different). They spend most of their time at 3.7 volts though and this is why they are described as such when you buy them separately.
If, for some reason your phone's software thinks your battery is at 3.1 volts, it won't do anything until it thinks it's at 3.2. Similarly if a protected battery is taken below 3.2 volts it won't provide any power until it hits its minimum voltage. In theory your phone should have cut out before the protection cut in, but bad stuff happens to good people.
Sometimes a protected battery gets drained so much that the tiny flow of electricty required to power the protection circuit stops and as the ultimate failsafe, protected batteries stop working when this circuit is not functioning.
(I'm talking about standard batteries here, not necessarily phone ones)
Sometimes cheap basic chargers won't be able to get such batteries working, but better chargers are able to send tiny trickles to a battery to start the protection circuit and make such batteries charge again. I'd be very surprised if android didn't take this into account and have some way of ensuring over-discharged batteries with a tripped protection circuit can be charged. That said I'm not sure whether the protection is all software on mobile phones?
Like I say give it some time - getting that first .1 of a volt can take a while when the battery is totally flat. If it hasn't changed after at least 2 hours then I'd worry.
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The phone was pluged in the wall socket.After this i tried to turn it on (while pluged) nothing happened so i unpluged it to press the off button (i upluged it because i could not reach the button because i had the case on) but the red light ( at the bottom of the device indicating charging) did not turn of.So i tried to reset the device by pressing the off button but i waited for almost 30 seconds (while pressing it) and nothing ... not even a vibration.So i left the phone away with the light stick on till the 1 % left was drained and the phone shut down due to lack of power.
So then i pluged it back in to the wall socket and it started charging again and so i turned the device on.This time it responed and opened up .Now nothing is wrong
It happened again.... i dont know the problem but the solution was the same...
jackaros said:
The phone was pluged in the wall socket.After this i tried to turn it on (while pluged) nothing happened so i unpluged it to press the off button (i upluged it because i could not reach the button because i had the case on) but the red light ( at the bottom of the device indicating charging) did not turn of.So i tried to reset the device by pressing the off button but i waited for almost 30 seconds (while pressing it) and nothing ... not even a vibration.So i left the phone away with the light stick on till the 1 % left was drained and the phone shut down due to lack of power.
So then i pluged it back in to the wall socket and it started charging again and so i turned the device on.This time it responed and opened up .Now nothing is wrong
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You left the phone in the charger to drain or not? If i put the charger off then red light isn't opened..
Also, how many hours did you wait?
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You left the phone in the charger to drain or not? If i put the charger off then red light isn't opened..
Also, how many hours did you wait?
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It took about half an hour because of the battery level being low.
Guys im having the same problem.. anyone who can help will be appreciated.
Can someone tell me what this flex cable is connecting?
My phone would sometimes spontanously freeze and switch off, showing the 3 red leds and just stops responding. It won't even take a charge. Usually the battery is at 60% when the phone dies, and sometimes it shows a constant RED led.
The back cover is loose (but has enough adhesive to actually stick reasonably, takes little force to open it up), so I pressed that connector with medium force. The next thing that happened, is that the phone responded to the charger, booted to the "charging state", where it shows the battery state and so on (which it shows it's approx on 60%.
Or could it be that I press something else, which causes my phone to work properly again?
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Can someone tell me what this flex cable is connecting?
My phone would sometimes spontanously freeze and switch off, showing the 3 red leds and just stops responding. It won't even take a charge. Usually the battery is at 60% when the phone dies, and sometimes it shows a constant RED led.
The back cover is loose (but has enough adhesive to actually stick reasonably, takes little force to open it up), so I pressed that connector with medium force. The next thing that happened, is that the phone responded to the charger, booted to the "charging state", where it shows the battery state and so on (which it shows it's approx on 60%.
Or could it be that I press something else, which causes my phone to work properly again?
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Cable with connector in green box is for side keys, gyro and microphone. :good:
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Cable with connector in green box is for side keys, gyro and microphone. :good:
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Thanks/Hvala!
But do you know what could be faulty on this specific point, which causes my phone to not charge? Can I find somewhere a complete guide to the disassembly and identification of all parts? It would make it alot easier for me . My phone is running again, going strong at 65% and still discharging for the last 3 hours. I'm logging the microVolts, temperature and other stats from the battery to see if it's the battery causing the malfunction, which I doubt.
Anyway, there should be something. By the way, prior to the issues, my phone dropped flat on the screen on tiles, about 1 meter high. So most likely, there is something loose/messed up. But I don't know what causes the entire system to flash the LED 3 times, saying that the battery is drained, yet after pressing on this point, immediately start up while on the charger.
emiglet said:
Thanks/Hvala!
But do you know what could be faulty on this specific point, which causes my phone to not charge? Can I find somewhere a complete guide to the disassembly and identification of all parts? It would make it alot easier for me . My phone is running again, going strong at 65% and still discharging for the last 3 hours. I'm logging the microVolts, temperature and other stats from the battery to see if it's the battery causing the malfunction, which I doubt.
Anyway, there should be something. By the way, prior to the issues, my phone dropped flat on the screen on tiles, about 1 meter high. So most likely, there is something loose/messed up. But I don't know what causes the entire system to flash the LED 3 times, saying that the battery is drained, yet after pressing on this point, immediately start up while on the charger.
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Please PM me. (you speak croatian?)
the phone turned off today after the screen started to flicker.
I noticed the battery was also flat.
ever since then it will not turn on, the best I have got is when I plug it in after 30min it shows up that it is in charge mode but that comes and goes.
as soon as I try calibrating it just goes off and doesn't do anything, nothing has brought the phone back to life . is there anything else I can do?
it now keeps booting back to charge when i do the battery calibration.... does this mean the phone is broke or just flat?
when it trys to turn on the screen gos blue after the logo and then turns off......
ok now the phone is back buti have to have the charger in otherwise it turns straight off
If Im understanding, you have to keep the device connected to charger to have it booted up and working else it turns off, if so then possibly hardware failure, battery terminals seem to be malfunctioning, will need repairs no technical fix as I understand.
yeah been told it will cost me £30 to replace battery
Either the charger-cable-connector bit is unreliable (do you have other chargers and cables?) or the battery itself is so broke that it doesn't store electricity any longer.
The latter usually usually doesn't come by surprice. Was battery life very short before this incident?