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Hello XDA-Developers,
I have to write something about Bill Gates & Steve Jobs.
For that I need some Polls
Would be nice if you could help me, just vote
First Poll:
[22.01 Which Microsoft OS' you like most?]
I made my vote...but if you had windows 7 as a choice it would've been my pick.
Windows for Workgroups 3.11
My vote goes to XP, the best OS i have ever seen, vista and W-Se7en are the biggest POS ever built
xp for me.....well x64 xp
but having to use vista at home....i miss xp
What about Windows 7 ?! It's the best OS ever made.
Should of had WinNT in that list.
GWelker62 said:
Should of had WinNT in that list.
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which version, there were several?
but dos was the best os. nice and stable.. and plenty fast.
liamhere said:
but having to use vista at home....i miss xp
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if you miss it then dual boot, that should give you your "xp-fix".
but if you have a core2 duo or above with 2gb or more memory and a sensible video card vista will run petty nice.
I've gotten so used to vista so when I go over to my friend's house I get pissed because I have to use xp. it's the truth, so I think I know what you're going through but in reverse.
on my rig I wouldn't dear desecrate it's inner tubes with xp. I don't mean to start a flame war but I had to say it.
vista is good on up to date hardware, well actually the only things that really needs to upgrade in the system is the video card and memory, even an old p4 would run it well.
I setup my brother's rig with a 939 socket athlon 3500, 2gb mem and an nvidia 8600gt and vista ran smoothly. (and this isn't even up to date hardware)
the key for better vista performance is: add more memory!
does anyone remember when xp just came out and OEMs shipped it with 256mb memory and it ran like molases? and how there was a huge hoopla about it until they started shipping them with 512mb? but in reality the sweet spot for xp was 1gb memory or more. it's the same thing with vista now, people try to run it on 1gb memory when the sweet spot is 2gb or more.
the driver issues was the manufacturers' fault because they sat on their asses until the last minute, but that issue has been ironed out for a while now so that shouldn't be a problem anymore.
I know others have a lot to say about the reason they prefer xp. but it all boils down to a user's preference.
PS: I know there are passionate people here so if anyone is going go reply to my post please leave the flame-throwers at home.
worst thing with old nt4 was that one could not reinstall it without a format
so if it required a reinstall you'd best have a full backup of your data
Another vote for Vista. Currently running 64 and 32 versions at home (gaming PC and HTPC), as well as XP (Laptop) and W2K (photoframe) so have lots of experience of each.
Just as Lennie said, so long as Vista has enough RAM to operate it's lovely. I've gotten so used to it's new little shortcuts that I find XP cumbersome now sometimes. Please don't take this as dissing XP, it's still a lovely system, but Vista was built as an improvement on XP and I personally think they succeeded.
Haven't tried W7 yet, guess I probably will if it starts gaming better than Vista.
Again - this is my own opinion and not a salvo in a flame war. If you love XP over Vista, so long as you're talking from experience and not prejudice then fair play to you.
Thank you for your post and answers
I will open a new thread in the day.
But first I need a idea for a poll about Apple Products
scilor said:
But first I need a idea for a poll about Apple Products
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Does the hype surrounding all Apple products make you more likely to buy them, or less?
Who do you feel has the control at Apple:
- The engineers
- The consumer research dept
- The marketing dept
Or simply, in your experience did your Apple product live up to your expectations?
I'd be interested to see the answers to those personally.
scilor said:
But first I need a idea for a poll about Apple Products
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Now that Steve Jobs has taken a medical leave of absence, soon to retire ( pancreatic cancer ) , what will become of Apple?
1). Apple will keep on it's current path, because it's products are superior in quality and design, no matter who runs the company.
2). Apple will lose it's lustre because the product quality and design will go down hill under new management
3).The products have always been crap, Steve Jobs is just the ultimate salesman, so goodbye Apple market share.
4). The Apple mystique is ingrained , it is not about Steve Jobs or the quality and design, the Apple fanbois will continue to buy no matter what.
Or something like that.
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Now that Steve Jobs has taken a medical leave of absence, soon to retire ( pancreatic cancer ) , what will become of Apple?
3).The products have always been crap, Steve Jobs is just the ultimate salesman, so goodbye Apple market share.
4). The Apple mystique is ingrained , it is not about Steve Jobs or the quality and design, the Apple fanbois will continue to buy no matter what.
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I second this
5) on the desktop market apart from fancy games more and more tasks are moved
to the browser and google is having a field day apple vs. ms is becoming less and less
and issue apart from on the mobile platform where browsers are less easy to access then dedicated apps
so it's iphone vs. wm rather then macosx vs. windows now
Are there any posibilities that we can run Windows xp on the tablet some day?
i've seen a video that runs ubuntu, i dont want to see the word "ubuntu" in this whole thread please, thanks.
if there are possibilities.. how can we start, should i make a facebook page where we all manifest our feelings?
Reason in my case: i have some especial software that only run on windows xp, and also a couple of games specially Ragnarok Online (private server) that i play.
What I'd be a lot more interested in is a version of wine running on the Tab, either directly (which seems rather unlikely) or inside that brilliant OS that you don't want mentioned.
I wouldnt use windows xp to use any internet browser
because i'm sick of the Spyware/Malware BS! but some software would be nice like:
GRAPHICAL ftp client, DreamWeaver, Macromedia Flash, Notepad ++
i'm an amateur Web designer
atomiq said:
Are there any posibilities that we can run Windows xp on the tablet some day?
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None whatsoever!
Tab is ARM based, not x86 based. The only "hope" would be an VM, but even if someone could be bothered, performance would likely be dreadful.
Ubuntu is open source and has been ported to ARM.
Regards,
Dave
Won't ever happen, and it would run like total dog**** if it did.
You can already play your hacked MMO on a cheap netbook, and as primitive as Ragnarok is, that's all you need.
Croak said:
Won't ever happen, and it would run like total dog**** if it did.
You can already play your hacked MMO on a cheap netbook, and as primitive as Ragnarok is, that's all you need.
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No, i already have e netbook, and ragnarok is not priority, the other software are.
so far we dont have a professional answer :|
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No, i already have e netbook, and ragnarok is not priority, the other software are.
so far we dont have a professional answer :|
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You already have a professional answer...
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Originally Posted by atomiq
Are there any posibilities that we can run Windows xp on the tablet some day?
None whatsoever!
Tab is ARM based, not x86 based. The only "hope" would be an VM, but even if someone could be bothered, performance would likely be dreadful.
Ubuntu is open source and has been ported to ARM.
Regards,
Dave
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How would anyone benefit from running win xp, or any windows os for that matter, on a sgt? What would be the purpose?!
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How would anyone benefit from running win xp, or any windows os for that matter, on a sgt? What would be the purpose?!
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It's for the mentally retarded who live on Facebook using WindowsXP
atomiq said:
Are there any posibilities that we can run Windows xp on the tablet some day?
i've seen a video that runs ubuntu, i dont want to see the word "ubuntu" in this whole thread please, thanks.
if there are possibilities.. how can we start, should i make a facebook page where we all manifest our feelings?
Reason in my case: i have some especial software that only run on windows xp, and also a couple of games specially Ragnarok Online (private server) that i play.
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I had a 7inch tablet running windows xp. the tablet was great, the software was something that stiil seek me in my nightmare.
Now I'm trying to put android in it.
Simply put. windows xp wasn't and will not be a tablet os. Ever.
Sent from my Galaxy Tab
atomiq said:
i've seen a video that runs ubuntu, i dont want to see the word "ubuntu" in this whole thread please, thanks.
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Ubuntu! Oh I'm sorry your majesty, I'll get to work on an arm version of windows xp right away.
You could use a remote desktop client to connect to a windows xp machine. There is absolutely no way to run windows xp natively and there never will be.
Sent from my galaxy tab
acolwill said:
It's for the mentally retarded who live on Facebook using WindowsXP
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Judging by the ragnarok online ref, probably just an entitled tween with too much money.
Sent from my galaxy tab
acolwill said:
It's for the mentally retarded who live on Facebook using WindowsXP
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there would not be anything wrong with browsing facebook on the win xp, the facebook app for the android totally sucks
bump. bumb.
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bump. bumb.
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This has already been answered - why are you bumping it?
Just because you don't like the answer you've been?
It is not possible - move on!
Regards,
Dave
sup atomix. As everyone else already stated the GT's cpu is arm based, hence no native winders.
However rdp/vnc/cloud connections to both real and virtual windows machine is definitely doable.
I saw an interesting article in Engadget the other day. Looks like onlive will be serving up their cloud based gaming with a side of windows 7. Maybe this will be helpful for you.
Sorry I would post the Engadget link but I just registered to this forum as I just got my tab TODAY!!!!!!
engadget(insert dot here)com/2010/12/07/onlive-demos-windows-7-on-an-ipad-and-galaxy-tab-launches-cloud/
the CLOUD sucks tytyty
any recomendations for my purpose?
The 'Cloud' as you refer to as 'sucks' is the internets.
If your 'Clouds' 'suck' then I suggest you invest in faster internets.
or
Ask Santa Claus nicely to get you a new windows laptop for Christmas and donate your fantastic Galaxy Tab to a more deserving individual.
or
Throw yourself off a bridge and stop bringing this thread back to life.
tried ubuntu on the tab and runs extremely slugish, i'ts out of the question..
any 7 inch or smaller tablet that would run windows xp?
i said TABLET not netbook, i already have a dell 10v but is way too bulky to take back and forth from city to city
the tab i need, needs to be the closest to the galaxy tab 7" or smaller display size
with at least 5hrs of battery, open a resolution of 1024px width
sim card slot with aws band support, wi-fi, at least 32mb video card
etc..
This is the closest forum I found to ask this question...
It's supposed to be priced at $400. Which makes it $150 more than, the Nook Color.
If this is true, you gain dual-core processors, 1GB RAM, 10.1" IPS display, and a removable keyboard (Assuming- it's factored into the $400).
Smashing good deal, I'd say.
However- my main complaint of all tablets (at least in this price range)... Is they don't run a full OS. The hardware on the Eee Pad Transformer suggest to me, it could viably run Windows on it in a dual-boot situation... I was just wondering if anyone had heard anything on doing this?
If so- it makes this an amazing device.
The problem with Windows is that the GUI and applications are designed around mouse usage. This will be an issue with any OS GUI not designed around touch. So it won't be as amazing as you think. Consider how difficult it will be to use toolbars with tiny buttons, use the taskbar (tiny icons), select things in dropdown menus, etc. You'd really need a stylus to get anywhere.
I suggest you look at netbooks if you want Windows. I have an EeePC 900 that I've been using for years and frankly it is vastly more usable than tablets thus far for a number of reasons.
There's no way to run Windows on a Tegra 2 or any other ARM-based platform except maybe through emulation. Also, the $400 price point for the Transformer would not include the keyboard.
Actually Windows 7 was designed with touch input in mind so while your statement might hold true to XP and earlier, you obviously haven't used Windows 7
I'm not worried about if Windows will work on a touch device as much as... Hardware support and if it's even possible (how it'd boot from a flash drive, for example)
AZImmortal said:
There's no way to run Windows on a Tegra 2 or any other ARM-based platform except maybe through emulation. Also, the $400 price point for the Transformer would not include the keyboard.
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OK- this is what I was looking for. So it won't run on Tegra 2...... Answers my question.
I am with you: I wouldn't assume the $400 included it but I've seen some product pages to suggest otherwise, I'm waiting to see. Even if the keyboard cost $100... Putting it the same price as the iPad... A tablet with no keyboard or a tablet with a keyboard: no brainer- the Eee Pad still gets the edge.
TexUs said:
Actually Windows 7 was designed with touch input in mind so while your statement might hold true to XP and earlier, you obviously haven't used Windows 7
I'm not worried about if Windows will work on a touch device as much as... Hardware support and if it's even possible (how it'd boot from a flash drive, for example)
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I use Windows XP, Vista and 7 every day, but I haven't touched a Win7 tablet PC. Windows 7 might be designed for touch but the applications, the whole reason to use Windows over another OS, will still be a problem. Not many apps are designed with touch in mind.
My EeePC 900 uses "flash drives" to boot Windows. it has a 4GB and 16GB SSD. It's pretty quick even though the SSDs are slow. It's that instant access time and relatively quick read speed, but the write speed is awful. Or are you referring to booting from SD? Which would probably entail some sort of fancy bootloader.... It is possible to boot Windows from USB so SD may be possible.
swaaye said:
I use Windows XP, Vista and 7 every day, but I haven't touched a Win7 tablet PC. Windows 7 might be designed for touch but the applications, the whole reason to use Windows over another OS, will still be a problem. Not many apps are designed with touch in mind.
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That's true but that's where the keyboard and touchpad picks up the slack.....
For 95% of people- Microsoft products (IE: designed with the touch in mind now) are fine.
swaaye said:
My EeePC 900 uses "flash drives" to boot Windows. it has a 4GB and 16GB SSD. It's pretty quick even though the SSDs are slow. It's that instant access time and relatively quick read speed, but the write speed is awful. Or are you referring to booting from SD? Which would probably entail some sort of fancy bootloader.... It is possible to boot Windows from USB so SD may be possible.
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I'm not sure how this device works (the bootloader) which is why I questioned the possibility anyway. Kindof a moot point if Windows won't run on a Tegra 2.
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Kindof a moot point if Windows won't run on a Tegra 2.
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I guess so.
Personally I've been hoping for a new 9" netbook with better hardware than my EeePC 900. Unfortunately none of the companies seems to want to build anything smaller than 10" now.
swaaye said:
I guess so.
Personally I've been hoping for a new 9" netbook with better hardware than my EeePC 900. Unfortunately none of the companies seems to want to build anything smaller than 10" now.
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I think 10" is a good size, myself.
7" is fantastic size as well, but it's too big for one handed typing and too small for two handed so... It's an awkward size. 10" is perfect IMO.
I have an EEE 1005HA and had a EEE 900? There is a big diffrence in size. IMHO the 1005 form factor is the best ballance for useabillity and portability.
Dell has a flip screen netbook / tablet that looks intersting but the price point is high, the reviews are low, so I have not considered it.
TexUs said:
Actually Windows 7 was designed with touch input in mind so while your statement might hold true to XP and earlier, you obviously haven't used Windows 7
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What about Windows 7 is significantly different from XP in the context of touch input?
I'm certainly intrigued by the Asus tab. However, considering that I work on Windows PCs and Servers for a living, I don't like the idea of trying to navigate that OS with my blunt sausage-fingers.
I'd just be happy with an Android OS that supports running apps in resizable, movable windows. Drag and drop file maniuplation would be nice too. Functionally, the Android interface feels like Windows 3.1. I'd like to have folders on the "desktop" and navigate to a document/media file to launch it that way. Basically, I'd like to see some Windows-esque functionality without it actually needing to be Windows..
I disagree that 10" is better with a netbook but I'm not surprised to see it said. I'd rather move up to a 12" slim subnote with much faster hardware that point (which I've had too). The 9" is exceptionally portable and I actually wish I could find a notebook that's even smaller. Unfortunately they don't exist outside of some severely limited PDAs.
This is the reason I grabbed a Nook Color. I've wanted a 7" tablet because it's smaller than the 9" EeePC. I've had a Droid to play with but it is just too small. Unfortunately touch screen input is far inferior to a keyboard/touchpad in some situations.
Jgrimoldy said:
What about Windows 7 is significantly different from XP in the context of touch input?
I'm certainly intrigued by the Asus tab. However, considering that I work on Windows PCs and Servers for a living, I don't like the idea of trying to navigate that OS with my blunt sausage-fingers.
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Go look up some videos of it on Youtube. Basically MS's GUI and their apps are usable with touch but obviously when it comes to 3rd party apps you are going to have a very hard time without a stylus or KB/touchpad.
The whole reason the tablet revolution is happening is because enough people are learning to live without Windows.
Wherever there is Windows there is x86, and that means HUGE CPU die sizes and terrible battery life.
I don't expect to see Windows on a tablet until we get to quad-core models that have enough raw power to run Windows in a virtual machine. Tablets are the end of the WinTel monopoly....
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Go look up some videos of it on Youtube. Basically MS's GUI and their apps are usable with touch but obviously when it comes to 3rd party apps you are going to have a very hard time without a stylus or KB/touchpad.
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No, I won't go look up some videos. If he, or you, want to make the contention, which is specious at best, that Windows 7 was designed with touch in mind, feel free to explain your stance. Otherwise, I'm not buying. I work with Windows XP and Windows 7 every day. The Windows 7 interface is like lipstick on a pig relative to XP.
In Windows 7, when you select Shut Down, there's no confirmation or prompt that asks if you'd like to log off, restart, hibernate, etc. No, it just initiates the shutdown immediately. If you want to hibernate or suspend, you need to precisely click on the little triangle right next to shutdown. Yeah. If you mis-click, then the device will shutdown, which isn't what you want. This was designed with touch in mind?
Windows 7, just like every other version of Windows since 95 involves context-sensitive menus available thru right-clicking. How exactly do you right click on a tablet?
Look, I like my Nook. I'm very interested in the Asus tablet if the price is right. I'm just not letting some clown get off with some lame contention that Windows 7 was designed with touch in mind all that easily.
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What about Windows 7 is significantly different from XP in the context of touch input?
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Everything.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/touch
It was designed with touch in mind. Microsoft saw this tablet thing coming and was proactive... People don't give them enough credit sometimes.
Jgrimoldy said:
I'm certainly intrigued by the Asus tab. However, considering that I work on Windows PCs and Servers for a living, I don't like the idea of trying to navigate that OS with my blunt sausage-fingers.
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IMO the future of computing is with a STYLUS and not fingers.
Why? Handwriting. Have you used Windows 7 + OneNote? That's the future. Write ideas, notes, whatever you want to down... And then you can freaking SEARCH them later on (handwriting recognition). That is immensely more useful and practical than typing stuff in or inaccurately penning something with a fat finger- as you say.
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I'd just be happy with an Android OS that supports running apps in resizable, movable windows. Drag and drop file maniuplation would be nice too. Functionally, the Android interface feels like Windows 3.1. I'd like to have folders on the "desktop" and navigate to a document/media file to launch it that way. Basically, I'd like to see some Windows-esque functionality without it actually needing to be Windows..
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Excellent points, but you'd then have to have a taskbar of some sort and then it starts becoming "too complicated" for people. I'm not sure if the added complications would outweigh drag and drop benefit. (Window switching is already there via long-press on home button).
swaaye said:
I disagree that 10" is better with a netbook but I'm not surprised to see it said. I'd rather move up to a 12" slim subnote with much faster hardware that point (which I've had too).
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I've personally got a 13" as you said- much beefier hardware.
However. After thinking about it, I don't do video editing, really. Or anything intensive. I have no need for that beefier hardware so then the question to me is... Why don't I get something smaller/more portable?
poofyhairguy said:
The whole reason the tablet revolution is happening is because enough people are learning to live without Windows.
Wherever there is Windows there is x86, and that means HUGE CPU die sizes and terrible battery life.
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I expect Microsoft to start killing x86 off in Windows 9. That said, I've heard rumors they are already going to drop x86 in Windows 8.
Again, believe it or not: Microsoft is fairly proactive here and knows what direction they need to move in.
poofyhairguy said:
I don't expect to see Windows on a tablet until we get to quad-core models that have enough raw power to run Windows in a virtual machine. Tablets are the end of the WinTel monopoly....
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There's already some intel-powered Windows tablets coming out that'll be fairly decently spec'd. The downside is I've not seen one under $1000. Which makes sense considering the hardware. However- my point is that they're already coming.
Microsoft has talked of Windows 8 supporting some kind of windows-on-a-chip thing as well...... Again- they know what's coming and where they need to take it
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In Windows 7, when you select Shut Down, there's no confirmation or prompt that asks if you'd like to log off, restart, hibernate, etc. No, it just initiates the shutdown immediately.
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Preaching to the choir. I have no idea the justification for that one. Even on a desktop PC it makes no sense what with the strides in hibernation/sleep.
Keep in mind this setting can be changed (and it might even be changed upon detection of a touch screen device, who knows... Windows 7 installs differently based upon detected hardware like SSDs, etc).
Considering you've admitted you haven't used Windows 7 in a touch environment I'm not sure why you expect anyone to put much stock in what you say.
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Windows 7, just like every other version of Windows since 95 involves context-sensitive menus available thru right-clicking. How exactly do you right click on a tablet?
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How do you do it on Android? Get real.
TexUs,
You and I just disagree.
I don't consider the inclusion of multi-touch in Windows 7 as being significant enough to give them a pass on designing the OS for touch. There are too many things about Windows that are just too tablet unfriendly. You consider multi-touch to change "everything" (your word) about the interface relative to XP. I do not.
On the topic of stylus-based tablet computing, this was tried about 6 or 7 years ago. That didn't work out very well. Styluses are a pain in the ass. They get lost, etc. The Palm Pilot was a stylus based device that really caught on for several years. The stylus, however, did not.
I never suggested that you could right-click on Android. My point was that right-clicking is just further evidence that Windows 7 is not all *that* tablet friendly. No need to get real. I'm already there.
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I don't consider the inclusion of multi-touch in Windows 7 as being significant enough to give them a pass on designing the OS for touch. There are too many things about Windows that are just too tablet unfriendly. You consider multi-touch to change "everything" (your word) about the interface relative to XP. I do not.
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You said relative to XP. Everything DID change in contrast to XP. XP sucked from a touch perspective. It was pretty much just tap this or tap that... Windows 7 made huge leaps and bounds.
Touch gestures in the OS, High DPI support, the Taskbar was huge in multi-window management in a touch environment, Aero Snap- again- more window management made easier in a touch environment, IE- touch support added - along with most all Microsoft products
Tons of improvement over XP. Again- the OS as a whole is now ready for touch- XP can't say that.
And your singular example of the shutdown button (which I already admitted is retarded regardless of setup) is hardly a damning point.
Jgrimoldy said:
On the topic of stylus-based tablet computing, this was tried about 6 or 7 years ago. That didn't work out very well. Styluses are a pain in the ass. They get lost, etc. The Palm Pilot was a stylus based device that really caught on for several years. The stylus, however, did not.
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Yes because stylus tech and handwriting recognition is exactly the same as it was 10 years ago.
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I never suggested that you could right-click on Android. My point was that right-clicking is just further evidence that Windows 7 is not all *that* tablet friendly. No need to get real. I'm already there.
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By that token, Android isn't tablet friendly since it relies on long-presses to gain additional options (IE: context menu) either.
Your logic just doesn't stack up.
You're complaining that a full blown OS has more features than a phone OS. Really? Where else do you suppose they stick all those options? All over the screen? Or with menus and long presses to pull them up only when needed? You also act, like people will constantly be using these functions on a tablet anyway. Tablets are for the foreseeable future, additions. Only things like the Eee Pad Transformer that have easily attachable keyboards- have any hope of replacing "real" computers.
I have a windows based tablet and I am incredibly happy with it
I have every intention of getting another one very soon (probably the asus ep121 or the hp slate 500)
I don't know why everyone's arguing about stylus input here, but if you haven't tried an active digitizer, you have no idea what you're talking about.
there's no way you can compare a windows tablet to a palm pilot which had a crappy resistive touch screen
it's like night and day
and the hand writing recognition in windows 7 is really, really good
I use it all the time and I never have any problems with it
also, I've been using my stylus nearly every day for 2 years and I haven't lost it..
I really don't see that being a problem
but anyway, I find it strange that no one has bothered to mention windows 8 in this thread. it will most likely be out fairly soon and it will support arm( not to mention the fact that it will be more touch friendly). I doubt it will be easy to port to something like the transformer, but it will be a hell of a lot easier than porting win7.
one more thing, you can long press to right click in windows, exactly the same as you do in android.
OMG!! The first ever Best Looking Phone by Nokia is this N9
seriously WOW what a design.
this will really Kick ass of iphone.
want to see more click here
http://swipe.nokia.com/
For demo video click here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfE3B6L-Otw
Clich here for WP7 Nokia Phone Full Video please open this site using Google translate
http://www.technet.hu/telefon/20110624/exkluziv_video_elop_bemutatja_az_elso_windowsos_nokiat/
it looks like a giant ipod nano
m1l4droid said:
What the hell is MeeGo? Does it even have any apps? Unless Android can be installed on it, its worthless.
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Never heard of Meego? And you're calling yourself a geek/nerd. GTFO!
i think LG Meego handset will come first before this Nokia N9.
But seriously i m amazed by this Design, first time By Nokia.
As we all know How much hype created during N8 this seems far more better than N8
this will decrease Nokia's Falling reputation.
Best of Luck Nokia.
This is getting Pre installed Angrybird, Wifi hotspot, USB on the go, 3.9 inch AMOLED screen
16 gb/ 64 gb version , but why Micro sim support
Full Specification here
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9-3398.php
Meego is an Open Source Project and some developer has already
ported Meego on Nexus One and other devices with snapdragon processor similar to Nexus one .
Its a dead horse, but nokia tries to ride it...
I have to admit that it looks pretty good, too bad it comes out so late.
m1l4droid said:
Of course I've heard of meego! But I don't think it has any chance against Android and others... Nokia should have just used android on it's smartphones.
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Agree, but Android won't happen. WP7 on the other hand would be better than MeeGo - much better.
m1l4droid said:
Yeah, WP7 is good. I might even buy a Nokia WP7 when it comes out, just for the lolz...
The problem with Nokia is that it's too stubborn and old fashioned. Good they signed a contract with Microsoft though, at least they have one REAL OS on their smartphones.
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The "REAL OS" part made my day.
TBH, it's a breath of fresh air. Kinda love the pentaband 3G radio in the phone.
For the apps. Now where's that alien Dalvik thing.
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Methinks that I might consider it if it comes in silver, and Android. It's MeeGo, how hard would it be to flash a new ROM?
I guess it'll be pretty easy. But time will tell!
m1l4droid said:
What the hell is MeeGo? Does it even have any apps? Unless Android can be installed on it, its worthless.
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I completely agree. That was my first thought when watching this video. If it doesn't have an ample amount of apps available to users, it'll go no where even if it is a fantastic phone.
MeeGo doesn't really matter. When the phone comes out, the main question will be "When will somebody put CyanogenMod 7 on it?" Notice I didn't use "how" or even "why". It's a when. And WHEN that floodgate opens... we just might have a bonafide camera phone.
SR4 said:
I completely agree. That was my first thought when watching this video. If it doesn't have an ample amount of apps available to users, it'll go no where even if it is a fantastic phone.
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For apps i think here is the preparation...
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/39841/nokia-n9-might-run-android-apps.html
I had a Nokia N900 for a while. Good phone, really good developer community. It's just a shame that they've stuck so firmly to their own OSs for so long. If they're going to go WP7 that's a step in the right direction but android would win them a lot of good favour.
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SR4 said:
I completely agree. That was my first thought when watching this video. If it doesn't have an ample amount of apps available to users, it'll go no where even if it is a fantastic phone.
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IMO it's much easier to write apps for MeeGo than Android. MeeGo uses the cross-platform (read: porting of desktop KDE apps to the mobile has already started) Qt Framework, which has a really nice API (Qt Mobility espacially for smartphones). It's really a joy to use this toolkit. All your developed applications can run on your desktop OS (Linux, Windows, Mac OS) and on your phones and tablets (Android, MeeGo, iOS port is currently developed..).
I'd love to see a port of this OS to some (more) Android phones. I tried to run it under my Desire HD, but I can't get the software rendering to work.
now i think i got the reason to purchase this phone
http://www.gsmarena.com/alien_dalvik_will_let_you_run_android_apps_on_the_nokia_n9-news-2813.php
nos in veins said:
now i think i got the reason to purchase this phone
http://www.gsmarena.com/alien_dalvik_will_let_you_run_android_apps_on_the_nokia_n9-news-2813.php
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Hehe, i love cross-platform frameworks. It's also possible to run application which were developed for MeeGo/Symbian under Android.
intresting UI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSZssHGR-Qg&feature=related
Nice, torn between this phone and the Nexus 3 now.
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Soon Android will run on PC
http://bit.ly/Amy1CL
is it possible that android will rule desktop against MS windows?
Hmmmm.... no
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android get the mobile i a short time, but i think this is posible too in desktop
Please vote, i think it is posible that android can get a place for the desktop because google has a potential
ruwie said:
Please vote, i think it is posible that android can get a place for the desktop because google has a potential
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If you're too old or too young to be able to do anything productive on a desktop, then perhaps Android is for you. There is no way that I could function in a business scenario with something like Android as the foundation for my applications.
android desktop is not yet done so that we will wait until it released, then lets watch if it can't do any business scenario.
adobe already developed application for mobile. it means their sympathy for android is starting. and we don't know how many developer that will start an application for android desktop.
ruwie said:
android desktop is not yet done so that we will wait until it released, then lets watch if it can't do any business scenario.
adobe already developed application for mobile. it means their sympathy for android is starting. and we don't know how many developer that will start an application for android desktop.
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Let's face it. Android is a joke of an operating system for a business. I'm not arguing on its capabilities on a phone or tablet. That's what it was designed for. Android is only going to gain ground in the desktop space as a cloud computing, Internet box. If you, your mom, or grandparents need a simple way to get online, then this is a good thing for you. This is not the type of serious business operating system that will ever gain ground.
If in ten or twenty years, there is some breakthrough in the operating system that allows it to be useful to more than just people who need to check Facebook, then I will happily eat my words here. Until then, there is no argument. Android is a silly choice for any serious PC user.
Not a desktop. Not yet. Not for the near future. Android just doesn't have the functionality for my office/serious needs. Or at least not enough for me to replace a desktop running Windows with it.
However, it would be great for my netbook. FSM knows I've barely used my netbook after getting the Note...
it is not to imposible to develop a elegant office apps, picture/video editors app, IDEs. well that what i got from your sayins that those apps will not work well in android.
Personally, I'd love to see an open Android-based distro (like Linux desktop distributions) for x86. If it got popular enough, it might start getting ports of typical desktop applications.
Classic Linux desktops seem to be stumbling towards tablet-like interfaces anyway.
Is this a joke? Not in my lifetime.
z33dev33l said:
Is this a joke? Not in my lifetime.
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Yea, it seems that they are really serious about this. I can't imagine Android gaining ground outside of the tablet market.
this not a joke, just read the link.
Nope. Tell me when you get PHotoshop CS5 Extended, Lightroom, and some other graphic intensive photo editing programs, then maybe I would try it for one day. There is no way Android can be good enough for Desktop unless all you do is check facebook, which the Chromebook is just perfect for.
jaszek said:
Nope. Tell me when you get PHotoshop CS5 Extended, Lightroom, and some other graphic intensive photo editing programs, then maybe I would try it for one day. There is no way Android can be good enough for Desktop unless all you do is check facebook, which the Chromebook is just perfect for.
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+over 9000
There's also sound editing software and development environments, as well as the aforementioned graphics editing suites.
Android does not have this even close.
Android is an excellent mobile platform - that's what they're good at.
Windows is an excellent desktop/laptop platform - that's what they're good at.
It will take years of commitment before either can be anything else.
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Archer said:
+over 9000
There's also sound editing software and development environments, as well as the aforementioned graphics editing suites.
Android does not have this even close.
Android is an excellent mobile platform - that's what they're good at.
Windows is an excellent desktop/laptop platform - that's what they're good at.
It will take years of commitment before either can be anything else.
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True windows has established itself as a all round everyday OS.
We all thought IBM would take over... and look where we are now.
Android could easy mark and surpass that. "it's a very friendly OS"