This is the closest forum I found to ask this question...
It's supposed to be priced at $400. Which makes it $150 more than, the Nook Color.
If this is true, you gain dual-core processors, 1GB RAM, 10.1" IPS display, and a removable keyboard (Assuming- it's factored into the $400).
Smashing good deal, I'd say.
However- my main complaint of all tablets (at least in this price range)... Is they don't run a full OS. The hardware on the Eee Pad Transformer suggest to me, it could viably run Windows on it in a dual-boot situation... I was just wondering if anyone had heard anything on doing this?
If so- it makes this an amazing device.
The problem with Windows is that the GUI and applications are designed around mouse usage. This will be an issue with any OS GUI not designed around touch. So it won't be as amazing as you think. Consider how difficult it will be to use toolbars with tiny buttons, use the taskbar (tiny icons), select things in dropdown menus, etc. You'd really need a stylus to get anywhere.
I suggest you look at netbooks if you want Windows. I have an EeePC 900 that I've been using for years and frankly it is vastly more usable than tablets thus far for a number of reasons.
There's no way to run Windows on a Tegra 2 or any other ARM-based platform except maybe through emulation. Also, the $400 price point for the Transformer would not include the keyboard.
Actually Windows 7 was designed with touch input in mind so while your statement might hold true to XP and earlier, you obviously haven't used Windows 7
I'm not worried about if Windows will work on a touch device as much as... Hardware support and if it's even possible (how it'd boot from a flash drive, for example)
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There's no way to run Windows on a Tegra 2 or any other ARM-based platform except maybe through emulation. Also, the $400 price point for the Transformer would not include the keyboard.
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OK- this is what I was looking for. So it won't run on Tegra 2...... Answers my question.
I am with you: I wouldn't assume the $400 included it but I've seen some product pages to suggest otherwise, I'm waiting to see. Even if the keyboard cost $100... Putting it the same price as the iPad... A tablet with no keyboard or a tablet with a keyboard: no brainer- the Eee Pad still gets the edge.
TexUs said:
Actually Windows 7 was designed with touch input in mind so while your statement might hold true to XP and earlier, you obviously haven't used Windows 7
I'm not worried about if Windows will work on a touch device as much as... Hardware support and if it's even possible (how it'd boot from a flash drive, for example)
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I use Windows XP, Vista and 7 every day, but I haven't touched a Win7 tablet PC. Windows 7 might be designed for touch but the applications, the whole reason to use Windows over another OS, will still be a problem. Not many apps are designed with touch in mind.
My EeePC 900 uses "flash drives" to boot Windows. it has a 4GB and 16GB SSD. It's pretty quick even though the SSDs are slow. It's that instant access time and relatively quick read speed, but the write speed is awful. Or are you referring to booting from SD? Which would probably entail some sort of fancy bootloader.... It is possible to boot Windows from USB so SD may be possible.
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I use Windows XP, Vista and 7 every day, but I haven't touched a Win7 tablet PC. Windows 7 might be designed for touch but the applications, the whole reason to use Windows over another OS, will still be a problem. Not many apps are designed with touch in mind.
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That's true but that's where the keyboard and touchpad picks up the slack.....
For 95% of people- Microsoft products (IE: designed with the touch in mind now) are fine.
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My EeePC 900 uses "flash drives" to boot Windows. it has a 4GB and 16GB SSD. It's pretty quick even though the SSDs are slow. It's that instant access time and relatively quick read speed, but the write speed is awful. Or are you referring to booting from SD? Which would probably entail some sort of fancy bootloader.... It is possible to boot Windows from USB so SD may be possible.
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I'm not sure how this device works (the bootloader) which is why I questioned the possibility anyway. Kindof a moot point if Windows won't run on a Tegra 2.
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Kindof a moot point if Windows won't run on a Tegra 2.
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I guess so.
Personally I've been hoping for a new 9" netbook with better hardware than my EeePC 900. Unfortunately none of the companies seems to want to build anything smaller than 10" now.
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I guess so.
Personally I've been hoping for a new 9" netbook with better hardware than my EeePC 900. Unfortunately none of the companies seems to want to build anything smaller than 10" now.
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I think 10" is a good size, myself.
7" is fantastic size as well, but it's too big for one handed typing and too small for two handed so... It's an awkward size. 10" is perfect IMO.
I have an EEE 1005HA and had a EEE 900? There is a big diffrence in size. IMHO the 1005 form factor is the best ballance for useabillity and portability.
Dell has a flip screen netbook / tablet that looks intersting but the price point is high, the reviews are low, so I have not considered it.
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What about Windows 7 is significantly different from XP in the context of touch input?
I'm certainly intrigued by the Asus tab. However, considering that I work on Windows PCs and Servers for a living, I don't like the idea of trying to navigate that OS with my blunt sausage-fingers.
I'd just be happy with an Android OS that supports running apps in resizable, movable windows. Drag and drop file maniuplation would be nice too. Functionally, the Android interface feels like Windows 3.1. I'd like to have folders on the "desktop" and navigate to a document/media file to launch it that way. Basically, I'd like to see some Windows-esque functionality without it actually needing to be Windows..
I disagree that 10" is better with a netbook but I'm not surprised to see it said. I'd rather move up to a 12" slim subnote with much faster hardware that point (which I've had too). The 9" is exceptionally portable and I actually wish I could find a notebook that's even smaller. Unfortunately they don't exist outside of some severely limited PDAs.
This is the reason I grabbed a Nook Color. I've wanted a 7" tablet because it's smaller than the 9" EeePC. I've had a Droid to play with but it is just too small. Unfortunately touch screen input is far inferior to a keyboard/touchpad in some situations.
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What about Windows 7 is significantly different from XP in the context of touch input?
I'm certainly intrigued by the Asus tab. However, considering that I work on Windows PCs and Servers for a living, I don't like the idea of trying to navigate that OS with my blunt sausage-fingers.
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Go look up some videos of it on Youtube. Basically MS's GUI and their apps are usable with touch but obviously when it comes to 3rd party apps you are going to have a very hard time without a stylus or KB/touchpad.
The whole reason the tablet revolution is happening is because enough people are learning to live without Windows.
Wherever there is Windows there is x86, and that means HUGE CPU die sizes and terrible battery life.
I don't expect to see Windows on a tablet until we get to quad-core models that have enough raw power to run Windows in a virtual machine. Tablets are the end of the WinTel monopoly....
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Go look up some videos of it on Youtube. Basically MS's GUI and their apps are usable with touch but obviously when it comes to 3rd party apps you are going to have a very hard time without a stylus or KB/touchpad.
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No, I won't go look up some videos. If he, or you, want to make the contention, which is specious at best, that Windows 7 was designed with touch in mind, feel free to explain your stance. Otherwise, I'm not buying. I work with Windows XP and Windows 7 every day. The Windows 7 interface is like lipstick on a pig relative to XP.
In Windows 7, when you select Shut Down, there's no confirmation or prompt that asks if you'd like to log off, restart, hibernate, etc. No, it just initiates the shutdown immediately. If you want to hibernate or suspend, you need to precisely click on the little triangle right next to shutdown. Yeah. If you mis-click, then the device will shutdown, which isn't what you want. This was designed with touch in mind?
Windows 7, just like every other version of Windows since 95 involves context-sensitive menus available thru right-clicking. How exactly do you right click on a tablet?
Look, I like my Nook. I'm very interested in the Asus tablet if the price is right. I'm just not letting some clown get off with some lame contention that Windows 7 was designed with touch in mind all that easily.
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What about Windows 7 is significantly different from XP in the context of touch input?
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Everything.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/touch
It was designed with touch in mind. Microsoft saw this tablet thing coming and was proactive... People don't give them enough credit sometimes.
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I'm certainly intrigued by the Asus tab. However, considering that I work on Windows PCs and Servers for a living, I don't like the idea of trying to navigate that OS with my blunt sausage-fingers.
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IMO the future of computing is with a STYLUS and not fingers.
Why? Handwriting. Have you used Windows 7 + OneNote? That's the future. Write ideas, notes, whatever you want to down... And then you can freaking SEARCH them later on (handwriting recognition). That is immensely more useful and practical than typing stuff in or inaccurately penning something with a fat finger- as you say.
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I'd just be happy with an Android OS that supports running apps in resizable, movable windows. Drag and drop file maniuplation would be nice too. Functionally, the Android interface feels like Windows 3.1. I'd like to have folders on the "desktop" and navigate to a document/media file to launch it that way. Basically, I'd like to see some Windows-esque functionality without it actually needing to be Windows..
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Excellent points, but you'd then have to have a taskbar of some sort and then it starts becoming "too complicated" for people. I'm not sure if the added complications would outweigh drag and drop benefit. (Window switching is already there via long-press on home button).
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I disagree that 10" is better with a netbook but I'm not surprised to see it said. I'd rather move up to a 12" slim subnote with much faster hardware that point (which I've had too).
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I've personally got a 13" as you said- much beefier hardware.
However. After thinking about it, I don't do video editing, really. Or anything intensive. I have no need for that beefier hardware so then the question to me is... Why don't I get something smaller/more portable?
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The whole reason the tablet revolution is happening is because enough people are learning to live without Windows.
Wherever there is Windows there is x86, and that means HUGE CPU die sizes and terrible battery life.
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I expect Microsoft to start killing x86 off in Windows 9. That said, I've heard rumors they are already going to drop x86 in Windows 8.
Again, believe it or not: Microsoft is fairly proactive here and knows what direction they need to move in.
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I don't expect to see Windows on a tablet until we get to quad-core models that have enough raw power to run Windows in a virtual machine. Tablets are the end of the WinTel monopoly....
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There's already some intel-powered Windows tablets coming out that'll be fairly decently spec'd. The downside is I've not seen one under $1000. Which makes sense considering the hardware. However- my point is that they're already coming.
Microsoft has talked of Windows 8 supporting some kind of windows-on-a-chip thing as well...... Again- they know what's coming and where they need to take it
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In Windows 7, when you select Shut Down, there's no confirmation or prompt that asks if you'd like to log off, restart, hibernate, etc. No, it just initiates the shutdown immediately.
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Preaching to the choir. I have no idea the justification for that one. Even on a desktop PC it makes no sense what with the strides in hibernation/sleep.
Keep in mind this setting can be changed (and it might even be changed upon detection of a touch screen device, who knows... Windows 7 installs differently based upon detected hardware like SSDs, etc).
Considering you've admitted you haven't used Windows 7 in a touch environment I'm not sure why you expect anyone to put much stock in what you say.
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Windows 7, just like every other version of Windows since 95 involves context-sensitive menus available thru right-clicking. How exactly do you right click on a tablet?
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How do you do it on Android? Get real.
TexUs,
You and I just disagree.
I don't consider the inclusion of multi-touch in Windows 7 as being significant enough to give them a pass on designing the OS for touch. There are too many things about Windows that are just too tablet unfriendly. You consider multi-touch to change "everything" (your word) about the interface relative to XP. I do not.
On the topic of stylus-based tablet computing, this was tried about 6 or 7 years ago. That didn't work out very well. Styluses are a pain in the ass. They get lost, etc. The Palm Pilot was a stylus based device that really caught on for several years. The stylus, however, did not.
I never suggested that you could right-click on Android. My point was that right-clicking is just further evidence that Windows 7 is not all *that* tablet friendly. No need to get real. I'm already there.
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I don't consider the inclusion of multi-touch in Windows 7 as being significant enough to give them a pass on designing the OS for touch. There are too many things about Windows that are just too tablet unfriendly. You consider multi-touch to change "everything" (your word) about the interface relative to XP. I do not.
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You said relative to XP. Everything DID change in contrast to XP. XP sucked from a touch perspective. It was pretty much just tap this or tap that... Windows 7 made huge leaps and bounds.
Touch gestures in the OS, High DPI support, the Taskbar was huge in multi-window management in a touch environment, Aero Snap- again- more window management made easier in a touch environment, IE- touch support added - along with most all Microsoft products
Tons of improvement over XP. Again- the OS as a whole is now ready for touch- XP can't say that.
And your singular example of the shutdown button (which I already admitted is retarded regardless of setup) is hardly a damning point.
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On the topic of stylus-based tablet computing, this was tried about 6 or 7 years ago. That didn't work out very well. Styluses are a pain in the ass. They get lost, etc. The Palm Pilot was a stylus based device that really caught on for several years. The stylus, however, did not.
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Yes because stylus tech and handwriting recognition is exactly the same as it was 10 years ago.
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I never suggested that you could right-click on Android. My point was that right-clicking is just further evidence that Windows 7 is not all *that* tablet friendly. No need to get real. I'm already there.
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By that token, Android isn't tablet friendly since it relies on long-presses to gain additional options (IE: context menu) either.
Your logic just doesn't stack up.
You're complaining that a full blown OS has more features than a phone OS. Really? Where else do you suppose they stick all those options? All over the screen? Or with menus and long presses to pull them up only when needed? You also act, like people will constantly be using these functions on a tablet anyway. Tablets are for the foreseeable future, additions. Only things like the Eee Pad Transformer that have easily attachable keyboards- have any hope of replacing "real" computers.
I have a windows based tablet and I am incredibly happy with it
I have every intention of getting another one very soon (probably the asus ep121 or the hp slate 500)
I don't know why everyone's arguing about stylus input here, but if you haven't tried an active digitizer, you have no idea what you're talking about.
there's no way you can compare a windows tablet to a palm pilot which had a crappy resistive touch screen
it's like night and day
and the hand writing recognition in windows 7 is really, really good
I use it all the time and I never have any problems with it
also, I've been using my stylus nearly every day for 2 years and I haven't lost it..
I really don't see that being a problem
but anyway, I find it strange that no one has bothered to mention windows 8 in this thread. it will most likely be out fairly soon and it will support arm( not to mention the fact that it will be more touch friendly). I doubt it will be easy to port to something like the transformer, but it will be a hell of a lot easier than porting win7.
one more thing, you can long press to right click in windows, exactly the same as you do in android.
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A co-worker bought a iPod Touch and downloaded some freebie games at work. One of which is a sweet game called "Topple" and is pretty simple.
Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr7DlMhmLrc
Basically you have your classic tetris pieces but they don't fall down until you grab them. The object of the game is to keep stacking. You move the pieces around with your fingers. They each have their own physics so they "topple" and knock each other down. As the stack gets higher so does the skill level, as the entire stack is motion sensitive using the built in G-Sensor. You have to keep the phone up-right at first but as the tower of blocks gets higher the sway gets worse requiring you to place your pieces and offset the lean.
The goal of the levels is to simply reach a certain height, gaining points for placing blocks. Free Play allows you to build your tower as high as you can. In both game types, you can only allow 4 blocks to fall off to its doom.
The game is addicting and funny. Each block has faces which change depending on their action. As the game progresses and your tower starts to lean, their faces do :O
I searched for a while but don't think this is out on any WM device. I know some of you have lots of G-Sensor tetris clones out there and this might be a neat idea to try out.
Very fun and addicting game.
Geebus, I don't have an iPhone, but looking at all the apps--okay, fine--the games it has, it's like going back to 1987 and comparing the 8 bit NES and its beautiful colors (while I'm kicking butt playing Kung Fu and Duck huntin' all the while pretending R.O.B is Johnny 5) to Atari's pong.
There doesn't seem to be many devs coming over to show off their skills--and if they do--well....pong works great on my Fuze...
I'd be more than happy to pay .99 for a nice and fluid "beer" app...with waves and actual liquid motion...
Sad when you have more games developed for an OS that is a couple years old vs a system that has been out for almost a decade.
I'm still saddened that we don't have better emulator support.
What would be nifty is if they had an iPhone emulator much like the Palm emulators out there. The iPhone doesn't have any graphic acceleration (i don't believe). Aside from the variable screen sizes, one would think it would be do-able.
What would be cool is if there was a conversion kit made for the Fuze/TP/Diamond which made the screen a capacitive screen. (Dreaming )
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Sad when you have more games developed for an OS that is a couple years old vs a system that has been out for almost a decade.
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Indeed and I'm still trying to figure that one out. What makes it so hard to develop for WM?
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Indeed and I'm still trying to figure that one out. What makes it so hard to develop for WM?
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Make a WM app store: promblem solved
Just think about how much easier it is to get Apps and games on iPhone rather then WM devices
Yes i own both haha
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Make a WM app store: promblem solved
Just think about how much easier it is to get Apps and games on iPhone rather then WM devices
Yes i own both haha
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WM has had plenty of app stores. Handago, etc. Heck Sprint even has a link for an app store which makes it plenty easy. The only problem is, Apple released an SDK that allowed people to make just about anything they wanted and the prices in comparison to the WM apps are waaayy different.
The Apple app store is mostly fun stuff like games and other stuff that's just neat. While, most of the thousands of apps for WM are more business based.
But, IMO it's much easier to download a cab and install it, than the iPhones way of getting apps. Apple, just does such a good job at hyping everything up, that the demand is insane.
I know they have programs to disperse Windows Mobile apps... but it isn't widely known because Microsoft doesn't require EVERYONE to have it like Apple does iTunes (AppStore).
I know they also make a program to install cabs directly to your device when connected through USB (skipping activesync).
Most of the iPhone games look like Flash games that are made into apps. Even the game I posted looks like a flash game.
The AppStore isn't hard to make, but getting it out there is. The best way for a service to get out there would be for a well known Mobile downloading site created a program that used their existing database of programs which allowed installation of demos/trials and a direct method of purchasing retail versions. A site like http://freecabs.org. It has a great database with screen captures and a description, plus all cabs are free to distribute.
The game I posted looks like a simple game that makes use of the gsensor and brings a new twist to tetris-like games.
Windows Mobile will always be suited more towards business while the iPhone has a child-like attractiveness that draws the younger crowd which would gear developers into making programs and games for that class of users.
I'm just sort of "jealous" that a device so new can have so many new games and apps that Windows Mobile doesn't have. It isn't that we can't have these games and apps... just no one has made them. I guess because every iPhone owner can use these games vs only a few people with Touch Pros/Touches/Diamonds/Omnias/etc
i like this topic.. i have/had an iphone but my family now doesnt wanna switch to at&t so i am back with my touch pro typing this on it... i love the ease of the app store.. i mean hell i jailbroke and it had better app distrabution then winmo ... and winmo is a much more open platform.... i think we need an appstore like app with freeware and trial and paid apps on it... you could distrabut it in custom roms because i would put it in mine but idk we need some easier way because im tired of searching google on my phone for a stupid app when it would be so much easier just to have a finger friendly database off a lot of apps and categories and all that good stuff
There are already several "Apple Store" type of products out there. The bad thing is none of them are REQUIRED to get apps so no one really uses them.
Sure the Apple Store is a neat way to find apps... but I just bluetooth the cab file over and install from there.
If your looking for something with descriptions and pics then just about any PocketPC app website will do the job. The only thing different is that they don't install it for you.
Although this thread was on topic of the game Topple... I don't know how it got off topic going from iPhone emulator to Apple Store
[EDIT] Here's what I found doing a simple search: WM App Store = Gecko
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436127
I rather have an emmulator for iphone Games
You realize what you people ask is next to impossible?
(or are we just daydreaming here and I missed the point?)
Well, again, the thread started around 1 iphone app... but I agree that a "emulator" or a "convertor" would be awesome.
I see lots of PocketPC apps and games get converted to iPhone apps... so why can't it go the other way around.
lots of their games and apps look like Adobe Flash based with G-Sensor support.
NLS-why do you say it is next to impossible. I don't disagree but looking for input.
OK I can tell you a few quick facts.
1) We are NOT sure that iPhone is not accelerated - we just assume because Apple says nothing. All 3D stuff I've seen in iPhone kicks the b*tt of any 3D stuff in WM.
2) The underlying OS in iPhone is (if we believe Apple) a subset of OS X, which as simple as you can make it, it is still a very very complex OS.
3) Multitouch is supported by both OS AND hardware, not a fact in WM... and no you cannot get by without it as many if not all apps do make use of it.
4) WM is not able to emulate really complex devices (and trust me I KNOW about emulation), for example Amiga (PocketUAE attempt SUCKS) or MAME (the last version released was based an a veeeeery old MAME). You have to fight against a non-real-time friendly OS (WM) and a single CPU without real co-processing abilities (and don't tell me about Qualcomm being a quad-core chip because I am laughing).
5) System locks for about EVERYTHING are in place in iPhone (yes even cracked ones) so even a succesful emulator would have VERY hard time tricking the OS that this is a real iPhone platform. Trying to bypass this would be an even greater strain to the already strained system.
...I can go on if needed.
Emulating iPhone with current WM devices is daydreaming.-
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OK I can tell you a few quick facts.
1) We are NOT sure that iPhone is not accelerated - we just assume because Apple says nothing. All 3D stuff I've seen in iPhone kicks the b*tt of any 3D stuff in WM.
2) The underlying OS in iPhone is (if we believe Apple) a subset of OS X, which as simple as you can make it, it is still a very very complex OS.
3) Multitouch is supported by both OS AND hardware, not a fact in WM... and no you cannot get by without it as many if not all apps do make use of it.
4) WM is not able to emulate really complex devices (and trust me I KNOW about emulation), for example Amiga (PocketUAE attempt SUCKS) or MAME (the last version released was based an a veeeeery old MAME). You have to fight against a non-real-time friendly OS (WM) and a single CPU without real co-processing abilities (and don't tell me about Qualcomm being a quad-core chip because I am laughing).
5) System locks for about EVERYTHING are in place in iPhone (yes even cracked ones) so even a succesful emulator would have VERY hard time tricking the OS that this is a real iPhone platform. Trying to bypass this would be an even greater strain to the already strained system.
...I can go on if needed.
Emulating iPhone with current WM devices is daydreaming.-
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I agree.. I mean I know enough to know that WM CANNOT handle an iPhone emulator..
I mean If you have ever used an iphone for even 30 minutes your going to realize that it is a lot more complex then windows mobile even if it doesnt look like it.. I mean its hard enough to make good scrolling on apps like iContact, so try and emulate the whole OS..
I just think WinMo needs to be more FUN rather then work
I mean I am 16 years old and I am trying to make WinMo better with my Touch ROM's even though I have a Touch Pro now to work with too.. But I want to make WinMo more for fun as well as work
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OK I can tell you a few quick facts.
1) We are NOT sure that iPhone is not accelerated - we just assume because Apple says nothing. All 3D stuff I've seen in iPhone kicks the b*tt of any 3D stuff in WM.
2) The underlying OS in iPhone is (if we believe Apple) a subset of OS X, which as simple as you can make it, it is still a very very complex OS.
3) Multitouch is supported by both OS AND hardware, not a fact in WM... and no you cannot get by without it as many if not all apps do make use of it.
4) WM is not able to emulate really complex devices (and trust me I KNOW about emulation), for example Amiga (PocketUAE attempt SUCKS) or MAME (the last version released was based an a veeeeery old MAME). You have to fight against a non-real-time friendly OS (WM) and a single CPU without real co-processing abilities (and don't tell me about Qualcomm being a quad-core chip because I am laughing).
5) System locks for about EVERYTHING are in place in iPhone (yes even cracked ones) so even a succesful emulator would have VERY hard time tricking the OS that this is a real iPhone platform. Trying to bypass this would be an even greater strain to the already strained system.
...I can go on if needed.
Emulating iPhone with current WM devices is daydreaming.-
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You are probably right, but I like discussions. My Axim can emulate a PS1. One would think mobile a phone can emulate another phone... at least SOME of its apps. I've read the specs of the phone and while good for a phone... not every app/game is going to require all the resources.
The Multitouch is a bit of a problem though. Even in the game I posted in the first thread, you need multitouch to "spin" your pieces. This would be might cause problems with the touchscreen (the touchpad is multitouch though).
Most of those games look like flash anyway. If they were... could we port them?
Obviously I don't have an iPhone so I wouldn't know. The goal of this thread was to port a specific game... not create an emulator.
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I agree.. I mean I know enough to know that WM CANNOT handle an iPhone emulator..
I mean If you have ever used an iphone for even 30 minutes your going to realize that it is a lot more complex then windows mobile even if it doesnt look like it.. I mean its hard enough to make good scrolling on apps like iContact, so try and emulate the whole OS..
I just think WinMo needs to be more FUN rather then work
I mean I am 16 years old and I am trying to make WinMo better with my Touch ROM's even though I have a Touch Pro now to work with too.. But I want to make WinMo more for fun as well as work
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Don't get insulted but what do you mean by "work" (in the sense that a Touch Pro is needed to do it) when you are 16?
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You are probably right, but I like discussions. My Axim can emulate a PS1. One would think mobile a phone can emulate another phone... at least SOME of its apps. I've read the specs of the phone and while good for a phone... not every app/game is going to require all the resources.
The Multitouch is a bit of a problem though. Even in the game I posted in the first thread, you need multitouch to "spin" your pieces. This would be might cause problems with the touchscreen (the touchpad is multitouch though).
Most of those games look like flash anyway. If they were... could we port them?
Obviously I don't have an iPhone so I wouldn't know. The goal of this thread was to port a specific game... not create an emulator.
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Port yes. By all means.
First find a way to get in touch with the infamous acceleration that is in Qualcomm chipset.
BTW, iPhone is more complex than PS1.
G-Sensor
I don't think that this app has anything to do with the G sensor, its only using the multitouch function but in WM you can not do this.
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I don't think that this app has anything to do with the G sensor, its only using the multitouch function but in WM you can not do this.
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if by app you mean the topple game then yes it uses the g-sensor, you can lean the phone left or right to lean the "tower" of blocks to that side to help it from falling. A little level also appears at the bottom of the screen when you do this.
I also agreeing to an extent about the wm not able to fully emulate iphone. I have an iphone and just about every htc device that has a touch screen but the iphone apps rarely use the multi touch and when they do it can easily be replaced with the buttons we have in a way. For example, the multi touch needed to spin the blocks in topple can easily be replaced with the spinning scroll touch on the touch pro which in actuality be a lot easier than the multi touch cause i can never get the damn block the way i want it when i cover most of the screen/block with my hand trying to spin it with 2 fingers and hold the phone at the same time lol
Also, as far as the security on the iphone apps, its not that complex as made. The apps are in *.ipa format which is just a renamed zip file. Rename it to zip and you can extract the pics used (*.png) and the *nib files (interface builder) with that as a stepping stone, the apps can begin to be ported which is stillnot an easy task, thats why its called a stepping stone
Microsoft just opened up Windows 7.... Just when Vista is even more screwed up. Either way it looks cool.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-videos.aspx
Check it out.
What about compatibility with programs and games? Did u try it?
I never really had any issues with Vista but from what i've played with in Windows 7 it's fantastic.
Hyden121 said:
Microsoft just opened up Windows Mbile 7.... Just when Vista is even more screwed up. Either way it looks cool.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-videos.aspx
Check it out.
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i take you really mean just windows 7....as your links states and not mobile
i have windows 7 x64 and i must say its really impressed me
7 is so cool
Im on Windows 7 x64 too and its the dogs, really loving it.
All those still on Vista, I suggest you burn your hard drive and get Windows 7, its everything Vista should of been
On a side note - anyone know when HTC devices are going to be supported on Device Stage???
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/devices.aspx
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Im on Windows 7 x64 too and its the dogs, really loving it.
All those still on Vista, I suggest you burn your hard drive and get Windows 7, its everything Vista should of been
On a side note - anyone know when HTC devices are going to be supported on Device Stage???
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/devices.aspx
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I suspect we'll at the very least see the Diamond, Touch Pro and maybe the Blackstone (depending if the guys at MS have one I guess), I'm also not seeing any PPC powered devices on this list so they could still be seperate?
Do you know if this includes devices connected via a network share? On one of my networks I have a brother MFC that's connected to one of my switches and it's a bit of a PITA to manage.
windows 7 x64 rocks
i really like the new interface of windows 7 especially the new task bar....and its works like a charm....
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I suspect we'll at the very least see the Diamond, Touch Pro and maybe the Blackstone (depending if the guys at MS have one I guess), I'm also not seeing any PPC powered devices on this list so they could still be seperate?
Do you know if this includes devices connected via a network share? On one of my networks I have a brother MFC that's connected to one of my switches and it's a bit of a PITA to manage.
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I dont mate sorry
I just downloaded it finally but will try it when I get home close to my restoral CD's. I am interesting in the newer device center. Other than that my major questions were pertaining to games and graphics. We all know how the majority of us got jacked over with Vista when it was released with KNOWN graphics problems. If Microsoft ignores the gaming community they will find that many loyal fans who have not left yet will go towards Linux or Apple. I have always loved Linux over MS anyway but have gained a newer resect for apple.... Well kind of.
Bogus
Original post indicates it is win mob 7. WRONG!!!
It is actually Windows 7 OS beta release which is probably what Vista should have been.
4 days of 7 x64...it's amazing. About Device Stage, I think there was something on MSDN about that. I'll go dig it up, I guess. In the end, it's all XML and *should* be pretty easy to do.
I've been running Win7 x64 since Sunday with no issues whatsoever. So far, I love it. It's great. The redesigned taskbar is very intuitive and easy to use. I love the new network manager applet; it behaves like network-manager in Linux. That is, a single click shows a menu-style list of available networks, and another click will get you connected. Win7 also (finally) includes native support for burning ISO images, which makes me thrilled.
I'm not so thrilled that it inherited UAC (running UAC is like always wearing a condom in case you trip, slip, and fall on a prostitute in the shady back room of a hotel in a bad neighborhood), but it's at least got better controls for it via msconfig. Still, I straight-up disable that crap.
Also, the Action Center does a great job alerting the user about potential hardware issues, and it gave me direct download links for getting the proper drivers for my HP dv6700 notebook's card and fingerprint readers.
Additionally, it seems much snappier than Vista. I'm sure that will change in the final release, especially once OEMs get to bog it down with their bloatware, but it's nice for now.
Only complaint is that Chrome won't run on Win7
Other than that, way to go MS!
I've had Win 7 of my laptop for a few months, the only issue I have is it doesn't really work when browsing my network.
I installed the leaked build 6801 back then, since the public release I ran windows update and nothing happened. Does that mean I need to clean install the new release?
I´ll wait for a stable version, just geting used to vista and I´m not an expert so I prefer to wait a few months
What do you mean? This version is stable?
Many people are saying they think really it's past beta and about ready to be launched...
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I´ll wait for a stable version, just geting used to vista and I´m not an expert so I prefer to wait a few months
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What do you mean? This version is stable?
Many people are saying they think really it's past beta and about ready to be launched...
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It is EXTREMELY stable. I haven't been able to crash it yet, and believe me, I've been trying.
And it dual (or triple, in my case) boots quite well, so you've got nothing to lose if you want to give it a 20GB partition just to play with it. The current licenses are only good til 1 August anyway, so I'm not looking to use it as a permanent solution.
And it's really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, easy to use. So dive in
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i take you really mean just windows 7....as your links states and not mobile
Yes, Windows 7 was the correct title of the thread but I did catch that I states windows 7 mobile in opening thread box. Sorry about that everyone. I was rading articles on Windows Mobile 7 and looking at Windows 7 at the same time. I have high expectations for both. I will be installing Windows 7 tonight and I will let you know how it runs on my laptop. Hopefully it better manages video memory than Vista does...
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Only complaint is that Chrome won't run on Win7
Other than that, way to go MS!
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crome doesn't (I don't use it though, because their security is abysmal it's on the same level as safari on windows. but to every man his own) but it does work, you have to run the exe with a certain argument. search at live.com or google.com to find it. I saw it today in my RSS reader.
I'll try to find it for you.
EDIT: here you go http://i.gizmodo.com/5130150/how-to-run-chrome-on-64+bit-windows-7
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crome doesn't (I don't use it though) but it does work, you have to run the exe with a certain argument. search at live.com or google.com to find it. I saw it today in my RSS reader.
I'll try to find it for you.
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Found it!
Thanks for letting me know there is a fix
For the rest of yous, you need to add –in-process-plugins to the shortcut launcher command.
Off to go try it.
EDIT: IT WORKS!
Source: http://www.blogsdna.com/1900/how-to-run-google-chrome-on-windows-7-64-bit-version.htm
I didn't check to see if this was in Vista but I just seen in 7 that I can set my background to change in intervals. I set my windows color to clear, so when my backgournd changes its like the window color changes too. I'm gonna check if its in Vista.
Hello XDA-Developers,
I have to write something about Bill Gates & Steve Jobs.
For that I need some Polls
Would be nice if you could help me, just vote
First Poll:
[22.01 Which Microsoft OS' you like most?]
I made my vote...but if you had windows 7 as a choice it would've been my pick.
Windows for Workgroups 3.11
My vote goes to XP, the best OS i have ever seen, vista and W-Se7en are the biggest POS ever built
xp for me.....well x64 xp
but having to use vista at home....i miss xp
What about Windows 7 ?! It's the best OS ever made.
Should of had WinNT in that list.
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Should of had WinNT in that list.
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which version, there were several?
but dos was the best os. nice and stable.. and plenty fast.
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but having to use vista at home....i miss xp
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if you miss it then dual boot, that should give you your "xp-fix".
but if you have a core2 duo or above with 2gb or more memory and a sensible video card vista will run petty nice.
I've gotten so used to vista so when I go over to my friend's house I get pissed because I have to use xp. it's the truth, so I think I know what you're going through but in reverse.
on my rig I wouldn't dear desecrate it's inner tubes with xp. I don't mean to start a flame war but I had to say it.
vista is good on up to date hardware, well actually the only things that really needs to upgrade in the system is the video card and memory, even an old p4 would run it well.
I setup my brother's rig with a 939 socket athlon 3500, 2gb mem and an nvidia 8600gt and vista ran smoothly. (and this isn't even up to date hardware)
the key for better vista performance is: add more memory!
does anyone remember when xp just came out and OEMs shipped it with 256mb memory and it ran like molases? and how there was a huge hoopla about it until they started shipping them with 512mb? but in reality the sweet spot for xp was 1gb memory or more. it's the same thing with vista now, people try to run it on 1gb memory when the sweet spot is 2gb or more.
the driver issues was the manufacturers' fault because they sat on their asses until the last minute, but that issue has been ironed out for a while now so that shouldn't be a problem anymore.
I know others have a lot to say about the reason they prefer xp. but it all boils down to a user's preference.
PS: I know there are passionate people here so if anyone is going go reply to my post please leave the flame-throwers at home.
worst thing with old nt4 was that one could not reinstall it without a format
so if it required a reinstall you'd best have a full backup of your data
Another vote for Vista. Currently running 64 and 32 versions at home (gaming PC and HTPC), as well as XP (Laptop) and W2K (photoframe) so have lots of experience of each.
Just as Lennie said, so long as Vista has enough RAM to operate it's lovely. I've gotten so used to it's new little shortcuts that I find XP cumbersome now sometimes. Please don't take this as dissing XP, it's still a lovely system, but Vista was built as an improvement on XP and I personally think they succeeded.
Haven't tried W7 yet, guess I probably will if it starts gaming better than Vista.
Again - this is my own opinion and not a salvo in a flame war. If you love XP over Vista, so long as you're talking from experience and not prejudice then fair play to you.
Thank you for your post and answers
I will open a new thread in the day.
But first I need a idea for a poll about Apple Products
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Does the hype surrounding all Apple products make you more likely to buy them, or less?
Who do you feel has the control at Apple:
- The engineers
- The consumer research dept
- The marketing dept
Or simply, in your experience did your Apple product live up to your expectations?
I'd be interested to see the answers to those personally.
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Now that Steve Jobs has taken a medical leave of absence, soon to retire ( pancreatic cancer ) , what will become of Apple?
1). Apple will keep on it's current path, because it's products are superior in quality and design, no matter who runs the company.
2). Apple will lose it's lustre because the product quality and design will go down hill under new management
3).The products have always been crap, Steve Jobs is just the ultimate salesman, so goodbye Apple market share.
4). The Apple mystique is ingrained , it is not about Steve Jobs or the quality and design, the Apple fanbois will continue to buy no matter what.
Or something like that.
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Now that Steve Jobs has taken a medical leave of absence, soon to retire ( pancreatic cancer ) , what will become of Apple?
3).The products have always been crap, Steve Jobs is just the ultimate salesman, so goodbye Apple market share.
4). The Apple mystique is ingrained , it is not about Steve Jobs or the quality and design, the Apple fanbois will continue to buy no matter what.
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I second this
5) on the desktop market apart from fancy games more and more tasks are moved
to the browser and google is having a field day apple vs. ms is becoming less and less
and issue apart from on the mobile platform where browsers are less easy to access then dedicated apps
so it's iphone vs. wm rather then macosx vs. windows now
Call me crazy but I want Windows on my Nook Color:
- Windows 7 (preferred)
- Windows Mobile 6.5x
- Windows Phone 7 (if it's my only option)
Surely someone is working on this on this in the xda or Nook community?
I'm not looking to start a holy war so please no battles on why one is better than the other.
Raptor
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Call me crazy but I want Windows on my Nook Color:
- Windows 7 (preferred)
- Windows Mobile 6.5x
- Windows Phone 7 (if it's my only option)
Surely someone is working on this on this in the xda or Nook community?
I'm not looking to start a holy war so please no battles on why one is better than the other.
Raptor
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not to be rude....but are you a complete moron....? why would you even ask a question like this...? the nook does not have nearly the processing power to run windows 7
Try pocketcloud from the market... itll let yo remote desktop to a win7 machine and turn your nc into essentially a thin client... pair it with a membership at dynds.org for a solution away from home.
Not exactly what you asked for but its the best youll ever get...
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Win7 Pro has a tablet thing that some say are good (would switch it on but no touch screen for my pc)
As for actually running it Android does well enough, im sure its possible but lack of drivers has stopped me from trying. If anything id try a live linux distro on the SD just thinking it could run it better, but win7 even in tablet settings would probably run like that Archos one, bad.
Call me crazy but I want Windows on my Nook Color:
- Windows 7 (preferred)
- Windows Mobile 6.5x
- Windows Phone 7 (if it's my only option)
Surely someone is working on this on this in the xda or Nook community?
I'm not looking to start a holy war so please no battles on why one is better than the other.
Raptor
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not to be rude....but are you a complete moron....? why would you even ask a question like this...? the nook does not have nearly the processing power to run windows 7
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This is just wishful thinking on your part. Even if the NC had the processing power it runs a TI OMAP ARM processor. Windows 7 is only capable of running on x86 and AFAIK there is nothing in the works to recompile win7 for the ARM platform.
Windows Phone 7 (who knows) could one day be ported to run on the NC hardware.
Your best bet may be to use VNC or something similar to get access to a windows 7 remote desktop environment.
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not to be rude....but are you a complete moron....? why would you even ask a question like this...? the nook does not have nearly the processing power to run windows 7
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Let me clarify:
- No holy war comments
- AND apparently...
- No unnecessary insults
I posted the comment in "this section" (Nook Color "THEMES" and Apps) for the reason of a good fully emulated Windows 7 theme would suffice.
But YES I do wish a "hacked" version of Windows 7 could be developed. I did not ask for Win7 Ultimate, or Enerprise but Win7.
If we took the assumption that only a full unmodifed version of any OS could be run on these devices then I think we would all just be reading eBooks on them from B&N. Win7 just like ANY OS can be stripped down in many ways, even if basic stripping down was not sufficient, it would be a start. From there things can be modifed further.
So to clarify:
- YES I want Win7 Enterprise or Ultimate with BlueTooth, WiFi, USB, SDHC, Cell Stack, Fingerprint reader, Optical Scanner, camera (forward and rear facing) BlueRay DVD ROM/Writer, IR, and whatever else anyone has ever thought of that can be put into a high powered Windows workstation.
Short of that I would be willing to accept any of the following in the order listed from top down:
- Any version of Win7
- WinMo 6.5x
- WP7 (if someone can make it do something other than the standard WP7) (ie: remove the iPhone'ish lockdown limitations and run WinMo apps)
- Win7 themes that work on the rooted Nook Colors
- WP7 theme (as a theme would not come with the limitations of WP7 itself)
- WinMo 6.5x theme
- NT4 theme
- NT 3.51 theme
- OK that is as low as I am willing to go, although I would not mind having CMD on the Win7 version with the internal commands... lol
Read the above with a certain amount of sarcasim and reality, Win7 ROX so as close as my Nook Color tablet can get to it would make me happy (as well as a few others as well I am sure)!
Raptor
@ Jason - Thanks, I do have a Remote control client accessing my static IP devices.
Unfortunately we are just not there yet with the passthrough of the touch commands as I wouldlike it to be, and beyond that I was looking for a Win7 interface even when not on WiFi. I just like the standard commands, interfaces, etc... that I am familiar with over the Android OS. Not to knock it but it's not my prefered GUI.
But you are right, that does suffice at this time.
Raptor
Maybe someone can get Windows 95 up and running
dascud said:
This is just wishful thinking on your part. ....... AFAIK there is nothing in the works to recompile win7 for the ARM platform.
Windows Phone 7 (who knows) could one day be ported to run on the NC hardware.
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Wishful thinking is why I finally have skinny tablet computer in my haands only (insert sarcaism here) 42 years after seeing James T Kirk with one.
Win7 ARM platform... oh the rumors are already started. Balmer is supposed to be making an announcement of this @ CES 2011. Am I expecting it to be released before the Nook Color becomes my primary dust pan... probably not, but I am eagerly waiting onthenews just the same.
WP7 on the Nook Color; That would be nice once it has copy/paste and the other 1,400 features that WinMo 6.5x had that were removed or "not included" in the new WP7 OS (sorry, sore subject).
Raptor
wvcachi said:
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Wahoooo........ Now were talking...
In all seriousness... what about Windows CE?
Or even xp, the nook has good enough specs for that, i mean come on, it only needs a 233mhz cpu and only 128 meg of ram?
Basically, id love to play age of mythology on this thing ;D
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In all seriousness... what about Windows CE?
Or even xp, the nook has good enough specs for that, i mean come on, it only needs a 233mhz cpu and only 128 meg of ram?
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Maybe if we all ask Bill Gates real nice he will find it in his heart to release the source for WinXP so that XDA developers can port it for ARM architecture. What with this being Xmas and all.
I am an optimist but also a realist. Chances of getting WinXP to run natively on the Nook Color or any other ARM tablet are next to none.
Why will Microsoft take it upon themselves to port an unsupported 2 generations old OS to the ARM platform. IMO it will be a cold day in Hell before Microsoft releases the source for WinXP.
If you need a tablet running Windows maybe you are better off with the Archos 9 https://store.archos.com/archos-tablet-p-96.html or the new Dell Duo or the HP slate.
Look i dont know much about such things but surely CE is possible?
got this from arm.com:
"Hi, There
Microsoft itself makes tools for developing with Windows CE running on an ARM processor. If you go to the ARM Connected Community page for Microsoft Windows CE:
http://www.arm.com/community/display_compa...3&display=3
and scroll down to the contact information, you'll find a link to Microsoft's resources for embedded developers:
http://www.microsoft...ndows/embedded/
You should find what you need there."
OR BETTER THAN CE: linux and wine
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CE wouldn't be too bad.
You should check out Windows Embedded Compact 7 which uses a lot of the same underlying software as Windows Phone 7 but has a traditional windows gui but can be overlaid with whatever you want.
Man. As soon as someone has a complete backup so we can flash this thing back to default if something goes wrong. Im gonna windows this thing to death >.
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I was thinking Windows 3.1 would be perfect.
OTH, I have seen tablets out there that run windows 7 so it's definitely not unheard of.
http://www.amazon.com/Archos-Windows-Starter-Tablet-Black/dp/tags-on-product/B002V3C4F8
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If you need a tablet running Windows maybe you are better off with the Archos 9 https://store.archos.com/archos-tablet-p-96.html or the new Dell Duo or the HP slate.
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Actually I will probably be getting a Dell Duo, but it's not as thin and heavier then the Nook Color as well as the price difference. I bought this on a wim as I bought 2 Nooks (non coler versions) for family members and it was just too darn cheap to pass up on. Needless to say I was thrilled when I checked and xda-developers had a section on Nook Color hacks...
I agree on the XP comments, but CE does support ARM (as in Windows Mobile (take your pick on the version)). I would like to see a WinMo 6.5x OS running on the Nook Color.
Raptor
new question...
has anyone succesfully gotten a full OS to boot from an sd card?
if so i might try mucking around with CE and get it installed on an sd...
if not i wont do it because i REALLY dont want to stuff up my color.
Now... does anyone know of any working drivers ;D
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So to clarify:
- YES I want Win7 Enterprise or Ultimate with BlueTooth, WiFi, USB, SDHC, Cell Stack, Fingerprint reader, Optical Scanner, camera (forward and rear facing) BlueRay DVD ROM/Writer, IR, and whatever else anyone has ever thought of that can be put into a high powered Windows workstation.
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I forgot GPS, 64bit dual proc quad core with 32 GB of RAM and a compass in the stock!
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I forgot GPS, 64bit dual proc quad core with 32 GB of RAM and a compass in the stock!
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you will brick your nook... ok closest i could come up with..
Soon Android will run on PC
http://bit.ly/Amy1CL
is it possible that android will rule desktop against MS windows?
Hmmmm.... no
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android get the mobile i a short time, but i think this is posible too in desktop
Please vote, i think it is posible that android can get a place for the desktop because google has a potential
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Please vote, i think it is posible that android can get a place for the desktop because google has a potential
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If you're too old or too young to be able to do anything productive on a desktop, then perhaps Android is for you. There is no way that I could function in a business scenario with something like Android as the foundation for my applications.
android desktop is not yet done so that we will wait until it released, then lets watch if it can't do any business scenario.
adobe already developed application for mobile. it means their sympathy for android is starting. and we don't know how many developer that will start an application for android desktop.
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android desktop is not yet done so that we will wait until it released, then lets watch if it can't do any business scenario.
adobe already developed application for mobile. it means their sympathy for android is starting. and we don't know how many developer that will start an application for android desktop.
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Let's face it. Android is a joke of an operating system for a business. I'm not arguing on its capabilities on a phone or tablet. That's what it was designed for. Android is only going to gain ground in the desktop space as a cloud computing, Internet box. If you, your mom, or grandparents need a simple way to get online, then this is a good thing for you. This is not the type of serious business operating system that will ever gain ground.
If in ten or twenty years, there is some breakthrough in the operating system that allows it to be useful to more than just people who need to check Facebook, then I will happily eat my words here. Until then, there is no argument. Android is a silly choice for any serious PC user.
Not a desktop. Not yet. Not for the near future. Android just doesn't have the functionality for my office/serious needs. Or at least not enough for me to replace a desktop running Windows with it.
However, it would be great for my netbook. FSM knows I've barely used my netbook after getting the Note...
it is not to imposible to develop a elegant office apps, picture/video editors app, IDEs. well that what i got from your sayins that those apps will not work well in android.
Personally, I'd love to see an open Android-based distro (like Linux desktop distributions) for x86. If it got popular enough, it might start getting ports of typical desktop applications.
Classic Linux desktops seem to be stumbling towards tablet-like interfaces anyway.
Is this a joke? Not in my lifetime.
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Is this a joke? Not in my lifetime.
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Yea, it seems that they are really serious about this. I can't imagine Android gaining ground outside of the tablet market.
this not a joke, just read the link.
Nope. Tell me when you get PHotoshop CS5 Extended, Lightroom, and some other graphic intensive photo editing programs, then maybe I would try it for one day. There is no way Android can be good enough for Desktop unless all you do is check facebook, which the Chromebook is just perfect for.
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Nope. Tell me when you get PHotoshop CS5 Extended, Lightroom, and some other graphic intensive photo editing programs, then maybe I would try it for one day. There is no way Android can be good enough for Desktop unless all you do is check facebook, which the Chromebook is just perfect for.
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+over 9000
There's also sound editing software and development environments, as well as the aforementioned graphics editing suites.
Android does not have this even close.
Android is an excellent mobile platform - that's what they're good at.
Windows is an excellent desktop/laptop platform - that's what they're good at.
It will take years of commitment before either can be anything else.
Can I just say.....
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Carry on....
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.......
troll.........
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There's also sound editing software and development environments, as well as the aforementioned graphics editing suites.
Android does not have this even close.
Android is an excellent mobile platform - that's what they're good at.
Windows is an excellent desktop/laptop platform - that's what they're good at.
It will take years of commitment before either can be anything else.
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True windows has established itself as a all round everyday OS.
We all thought IBM would take over... and look where we are now.
Android could easy mark and surpass that. "it's a very friendly OS"