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Well I think its fairly apparent that M$ is not going to make a newer style native dialer for 6.5 so we may be stuck with the same dialer from the WM5 days.
Is anyone willing to redesign the layout of WM dialer? We have several different skins, but I think a new layout is whats needed for 6.5, perhaps to mimic the HTC dialer, or perhaps different.
Any takers?
Edit: I will update the first post and add in everything that we can come up with for easy access. Thanks to all who support.
+1 for this. Not sure if the layout can be chnged yet, but maybe some skin to make it look changed. Is there some existing skins for this somewhere already?
+1 for layout
jmckeejr said:
+1 for this. Not sure if the layout can be chnged yet, but maybe some skin to make it look changed. Is there some existing skins for this somewhere already?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434934
+1 for the layout change though. There is some unused space at the top that I don't like. The number buttons are not quite finger friendly either. IMO.
Maybe we coud post a zip with all the stock images and reg entries to make it easy on skinners. Can someone put together a zip with all of this stuff and Adam can link it in first post?
I will most likely have a look at this too, but busy at the time being. I'd like to make it look like the HTC dialer, and then go from there.
Not sure if this is the same dialer, but there are a few skins for stock dialer at www.skinzone.org. They were from 6.1, so not sure if they would still work.
EDIT: I gathered up the images real quick, but didn't get the registry yet. Let me know if you think I missed an image.
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Sure thing, I will update the first post and add in everything that we can come up with for easy access. Hopefully people will see that something is being done and will join in. It may not hurt to contact some good people with photoshop skills either like Herg and bilbobrian.
Edit: After thinking about it, we may get better coverage if this was moved to the Development and Hacking forum.
I wish they would make the dialer the same as how they have the dial pad for the lock screen...that would be sweet if somebody could make a skin or dialer like that:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2009/02/windows-mobile-65-ofc10.jpg
Somoene skinned the HTC dialer to match the buttons in 6.5 and it looked really good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509447
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Somoene skinned the HTC dialer to match the buttons in 6.5 and it looked really good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509447
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That looks great, I just wish the HTC S2A dialer didn't have issues with WM6.5
i'll take a crack at it later tonight after work...its been bugging me too.
That would be awesome... and I know we can expect something good from you, you always seem to post top knotch applications/themes/tweaks.
Hi,
Attached is something that I quickly knocked up to make the WM6.5 dialer look a bit more like the lock screen when in a call.
I hope that it is useful.
Matt
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mpattman said:
Hi,
Attached is something that I quickly knocked up to make the WM6.5 dialer look a bit more like the lock screen when in a call.
I hope that it is useful.
Matt
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Matt, what is the file attached. I noticed the different default theme pictures in the folders, but I am not sure how this file should be used. Is it a program that allows you to choose a theme? If so, which file to you run and do you run from pc over activesync or from the device itself?
If you extact it on your PC, the directories are for cooking and if you run the "make_cabs.bat" you should get a folder called cabs with installable cab files that will change the phone's skin. You need to soft reset to get the phone to use them after you install the cab (or copy the files over in Resco Explorer from the folder of your choice.)
(see attachments - I am using the Blue Drop theme)
big thanks
mpattman said:
If you extact it on your PC, the directories are for cooking and if you run the "make_cabs.bat" you should get a folder called cabs with installable cab files that will change the phone's skin. You need to soft reset to get the phone to use them after you install the cab (or copy the files over in Resco Explorer from the folder of your choice.)
(see attachments - I am using the Blue Drop theme)
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Yes!!!
That alone makes a BIG difference. Thanks!
I dont get a folder called 'cabs'.
I hate to admit...
AdamNimrod said:
I dont get a folder called 'cabs'.
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I hate to admit that the same happened for me. I ran it three times...then I thought about it. And I refreshed the window.
I doubt this is your problem, but I had to put it out there.
just to let everyone know, i am working on something, I'm toying with going with squared-off buttons (see 6.5 calc for an example) or the lockscreen-esque rounded buttons (similar to mpattman). should have some time this weekend to really polish it.
Rounded buttons.
I still cant get the damn cabs to show...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508920 this what you are looking for?
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I still cant get the damn cabs to show...
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Not sure why it won't build the cabs, is there an error message?
Attached are the VGA cabs.
Ok so I have been searching the forums and I cannot find an exact answer for what I want to change so if this is a problem that had already been solved, please direct me to the thread.
I just recently dl'd the chm binary release and like it. But the on screen keyboard is hard on my eyes.
So my question is how would I go about replacing it with something like, o say the buuf on screen keyboard instead?
HTC_IME is not what I want just to clarify.
And once again, I apologize if this has already been threaded...
There is no way that none of you know this...
philosophics said:
There is no way that none of you know this...
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We could help you, but it is a 3rd party keyboard. What keyboard is it?
I'm not really sure. After installing the HTC_IME, I now have 2. Htc keyboard and android keyboard. If I knew how to take a screenie, I would but I don't.
As far as I know, its the on screen keyboard I've had since I rooted...
The keyboard that comes with chm binary is what I want to change...
well, I know how to modify the look of the builtin keyboard, but I haven't messed with 3rd party stuff.
The stock keyboard can be changed by theming. They're just png files, although the .9.pngs make it a little bit more complicated.
Well I kinda figured as much but what I'm really trying to ask is where do I find them?
They're in framework-res.apk on the phone. If you extract this file they'll be under res/drawable/
The filenames are btn_keyboard*.png
By using metamorph or creating an update.zip style theme you can change these and apply a theme to the phone. Theming is a real pain, but I think it's worth learning how to do.
Ya, I have already pieced together a blackbar to my liking so I'm well aware of the hassles it is to do. I'll be learning the .9's as soon as I get my pc parts back from rma and then I'll try to put out a skin.
Thanks bud, I'll look into this tomorrow after I've slept...
If you want to do this easily, download the buff keyboard skin for better keyboard, and take the .9.pngs from there.
Wow! Now that should have been said at the very beginning. Good thing I was too busy today to get to that. Cloverdale, you just saved me a few hours of frustration. still though, I thank the both of you for the help. I will update the thread when I have success so everyone knows its solved!
Ps- anyone else try to read the forums on your phone? Its a little tricky...
Sorry for the off topic comment but I felt the need...
ok so I couldn't really find a way to download the better keyboard/buuf theme on the pc so I went and tried swapping the btn-keyboard---'s and noting happened after add.
So now I'm on the hunt for the better keyboard dl
I don't know where to look for the file when dl'ing to phone so if all else fails, I guess I could dl to phone and then search for it by folder by painstaking folder...
Update - I cannot for the life of me find the file on the web or on the phone. I dl'd from marketplace but I must not be very smart cause I don't know where marketplace stores stuff...
Downloading the better keyboard theme was supposed to save me grief but in fact, it did the exact opposite...
Update - Well I thought by removing the btn_keyboard_key.xml would solve my problem considering the BUUF skin does not contain one. Same nasty black and blue keyboard. All the buuf keyboard .--- are there so I'm confused once again.
I do not want to install another pay-for app and I don't want the entire buuf theme as of now so I will wait till later today after sleep and try again.
Unless someone knows exactly what's wrong. I'm doing everything I can to keep this 3 month old drywall from having holes in it...
I thought the black bar mod was hard to do... hahaha! That was a cake walk compared to this...
Update - Removing the xml's to the keyboard was a bad idea. It forced closed the android keyboard cause it wanted to change the language to latin or something like that. Touch Input keyboard (HTC_IME) will still work though and I made backups so all of this is just a learning experience for me.
...This is so not like modding and skinning a moto. Way more complicated. So much can go wrong.
Which reminds me, how do I view the .xml's with win7? Never done it before...
So does anyone have any other ideas? Maybe there's something I've been missing this whole time?
I have replaced the btn_keyboard--- files in the framework-res.apk like I was told to do and there is no effects... at all. Positive or negative...
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So does anyone have any other ideas? Maybe there's something I've been missing this whole time?
I have replaced the btn_keyboard--- files in the framework-res.apk like I was told to do and there is no effects... at all. Positive or negative...
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Well the only other place I can think of is the LatinIME.apk, but I'm not sure about that one
You know, that almost makes sense cause when I removed the .xml for the keyboard to make it match with buuf, the phone kept screaming at me about ..... latin something. So I will check this out and let you know.
But now I have a new problem. I think I need to remove a few applications cause my phone keeps force closing everything after reboot due to an update.zip file. So once I conquor this then I'll start working on the original problem...
i do like the keyboard that it comes with, but my fingers are too big. i hit the "." when i mean to hit "space", and i hit other buttons when i dont mean to. i want something that will learn my keystrokes. my buddy was telling me about HTC_IME and clicker, but i cant seem to find the right files. i looked into a tatto build, and took the apk files, but they wont install. i get "this program can not install on this device" error
just seeing whats out there. i tried installing the 320x480 myns, but the screen doesnt line up right on anything for me.
I use the free ShapeWriter keyboard found in the Android Market.
Hope this helps.
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i do like the keyboard that it comes with, but my fingers are too big. i hit the "." when i mean to hit "space", and i hit other buttons when i dont mean to. i want something that will learn my keystrokes. my buddy was telling me about HTC_IME and clicker, but i cant seem to find the right files. i looked into a tatto build, and took the apk files, but they wont install. i get "this program can not install on this device" error
just seeing whats out there. i tried installing the 320x480 myns, but the screen doesnt line up right on anything for me.
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If you want only the english language...you can ignure the steps with language... But you must change to 120 dpi and change the dialer (contacts.apk)....look here:
Htc ime... it´s a long way....
Start....:
Installation Instructions
1. Install both HTC_IME.apk and Clicker.apk.
2. Rename/remove the file /system/lib/libt9.so (I suggest renaming to libt9bk.so). You need root permissions to do this (the program Root Explorer works great.)
3. Menu -> Settings -> Locale & text. Enable 'Touch Input'.
4. Go to a text field and long-hold until a menu pops up.
5. Select 'Input Method' and then 'Touch Input'
1.1 Download the latest htc ime from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567294
or here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661525
2.1 make the system root/write access to change the name of libt9
- open terminal
- type "su"
- type "mount -o remount,rw /system"
... and then I could rename the file w/ Root Explorer (must be root explorer..i think)
3.1 change the language: look here:
http://ostebaronen.dk/changing-htc_ime-language-to-danish/
a bit easier: change to htc ime...go to sms and long press on the input text...now a menu come and you can change....
go in a explorer to: data/data/com.htc.android.htcime/shared_prefs/com.htc.android.htcime_preferences.xml (now visible)--and copy it to sd card...
open the xml and change the language code (like in the link)....copy it over the old one....
please do not change the lang setting in text input settings...(you don´t see a lang in this box now)
i think it was all
edit: for the correct view: change to 120 dpi....and take my corrected dialer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676102
Now it´s all...i hope
Super easy, you can get the HTC keyboard in 240x320.
Just follow the instructions,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661525
You will need to d/l the two files and install root explorer.
I'm curious - why do folks like the HTC one better?
berardi said:
I'm curious - why do folks like the HTC one better?
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Because we have now QWERTY(Z) compact qwerty and this is what i like a normal phone keypad...like a normal mobile phone
edit: @ GeJohnO...sorry..2nd link from me is the same...i only have a bigger statement because of language collect all important info´s and correct the 110 dpi issue (HTC_IME looks not good in 110 dpi)
With kind regards..Alex
personally i like the HTC keyboard because i feel the text prediction better because of the clicker.apk includes a calibration app and it seems to adapt to me alot fast than other keyboards.
i also like that if i want to use a number or symbol i can just long hold on a key instead of having to switch to a secondary menu all the time
also staticchmbr i feel like i know you from somewhere?
staticchmbr said:
i do like the keyboard that it comes with, but my fingers are too big. i hit the "." when i mean to hit "space", and i hit other buttons when i dont mean to. i want something that will learn my keystrokes. my buddy was telling me about HTC_IME and clicker, but i cant seem to find the right files. i looked into a tatto build, and took the apk files, but they wont install. i get "this program can not install on this device" error
just seeing whats out there. i tried installing the 320x480 myns, but the screen doesnt line up right on anything for me.
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That's your problem. You have a 240x320 hardware screen on the Vogue, and you are trying to use a resolution that it is not meant for. I do not understand why people think they can do this, and still expect things to function. First of all, you do not NEED the extra resolution, I run about 20 games and 15 apps on my phone, of all different sources, and 240x320 is fine. Secondly, use LCD density "113", just change the build.prop file before flashing NAND, and you are good to go. I have zero issues at all, with any apps.
-C
i AM running the 240x320, but tried the 320x480 just in case that was the issue. finally got it installed, but everytime i run the calibration it says" SORRY, the application has stopped unexpectedly. please try again".. maybe i just dont have the right file? i got it from another topic on here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661525&page=5
Can someone please tell me what is wrong with the default Android keyboard? I am 6'7" tall, and my hands are HUGE. My pinky is bigger than my wife's thumb, and I actually text with MY thumb, just fine, which is friggin huge, and I have no issues.
I am just baffled, because I see these 'alternate keyboard' threads all the time, so obviously there must be an issue for some ppl with the keyboard, but I guess for once it is not for us fat-fingers folks. Is it hard to use for small fingers maybe? I am so curious about this as the Android keyboard is such a breeze for me to use.
-C
I agree. I prefer the default keyboard myself.
It's faster too
eh, maybe im just not coordinated enough lol
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I agree. I prefer the default keyboard myself.
It's faster too
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Yeah, I love the speed of the default keyboard. I've tried Betterkeyboard, and all those, Shapewriter, I think just about every one, and while some are cool, and hold potential, for me none compare to the speed of input in the default. I can type pretty damn fast with the default.
The only keyboard I can see being significantly better is Touchpal. If you remember it from Winmo, it was a FAST and efficient keyboard. But the developer keeps promising a release date, and renigging on it. If you feel like a laugh, go check out the forums:
http://cootek.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=10&SID=bff29cde36b6374zz3cbc61f3b3dc8cz
berardi said:
Yeah, I love the speed of the default keyboard. I've tried Betterkeyboard, and all those, Shapewriter, I think just about every one, and while some are cool, and hold potential, for me none compare to the speed of input in the default. I can type pretty damn fast with the default.
The only keyboard I can see being significantly better is Touchpal. If you remember it from Winmo, it was a FAST and efficient keyboard. But the developer keeps promising a release date, and renigging on it. If you feel like a laugh, go check out the forums:
http://cootek.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=10&SID=bff29cde36b6374zz3cbc61f3b3dc8cz
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have you tried better keyboard?
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have you tried better keyboard?
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Yeah I really couldn't find the appeal what do you like about it?
As title says. I've searched and I don't know whats compatible. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6152363&postcount=2
Regaw based his roms of dc, so I think they would be compatible. Do a nandroid first just in case.
sierpinski13 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6152363&postcount=2
Regaw based his roms of dc, so I think they would be compatible. Do a nandroid first just in case.
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Tried. Now it says that the Phone is not installed on my phone lol. Anyone else got any ideas? its the stock htc dialer atm, ive seen black dialers everywhere just dont know which will work for DC.
Have you tried Dark Envy v1.5? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682110
Download the FRESH 2.1.2 DE-ODEXED ONLY, unzip, pull the HTC Dialer out and push to your system/app
thats the theme I am running right now. I belive the icons and the dialer dont work on DC. Ill try pushing it alone, but someone else said that their dialer was stock aswell.
roadster92 said:
Have you tried Dark Envy v1.5? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682110
Download the FRESH 2.1.2 DE-ODEXED ONLY, unzip, pull the HTC Dialer out and push to your system/app
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Alright, I pushed it and it is still the stock white one. Should it have worked?
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Alright, I pushed it and it is still the stock white one. Should it have worked?
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It should work. It works on mine with no problem
I believed that Fresh 2.1.2 is the same as DC 2.09.1 (they both used Sprint 2.27.651.5)
I checked the HTCDialer.apk, it has all the black dialer button. Something must be wrong when you pushed it. It looks like it didn't get pushed to system/app properly
After the file pushed you must reboot and wipe dalvik cache.
The Dark Envy Icon won't work because all the APK files are missing the classes.dex. What I did was pulling all the corresponded apks from my phone then using winrar to extract them individually. After that I open each of the Dark Envy 's icon apk then drag the classes.dex that I just extracted and drop it in the open apk and close it. Once you are done, just push the APK back to system/app.
I got all the icons to work.
Hope this help
Just make sure nandroid before you attempt to do this.
alright Ill try that for the Icons. Thanks.
On the dialer... I get the GREY CALL button, but im looking for where all of the #'s are black, and the area where the contacts are, are black. After I pushed that, it made process.android.acore force close every time I hit a button on the dialer
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alright Ill try that for the Icons. Thanks.
On the dialer... I get the GREY CALL button, but im looking for where all of the #'s are black, and the area where the contacts are, are black. After I pushed that, it made process.android.acore force close every time I hit a button on the dialer
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Sorry Man, I can't help you there. There is still one more idea. If you open up the HTC Dialer apk (the current DC 2.09.1 Dialer) and look into the res\drawable-mdpi folder. That is where all the dialer button images are. You can manually copy all the images from Dark Envy fresh 2.1.2 HTC dialer to that folder and replaced them. For the gray call button, look at the image file name dialer_null.png. You can convert that to black instead of gray. What I would do is extract Darkenvy fresh HTC dialer, modified the png that you want then with winrar open dc 2.09.1 htc dialer, go to res\drawable-mdpi, drag the all the png included the one you modified from res\drawable-mdpi to the open winrar dc 2.09.1 HTC dialer. That's should work too.
Other than that I don't know what else to do .. hope that work for you
I have a black dailer I use on dc 2.08.1. It won;t work on 2.09 though...if you want it, I can upload this evening when I get home from work....
Hi all, i've been searching for months for an answer to my simple questions but unfortunately i cannot find the remedy anywhere!! Now what i have been wondering is, with the new 2.1 ROMS, where the exit keyboard button is, on the Desire there is a smiley face button instead, i believe this was installed on one ROM, however i preferred to use a stock based ROM as my daily phone, now what i am wondering is, does anyone know where i can get the keyboard with the smiley, possibly as an update ZIP? i am certain it exists somewhere, but i am unable to find it anywhere!
Now my second question is about the stock navbar, i have found a couple of update ZIP's to make it transparent, but what i am after is a complete change of it so it resembles the Froyo navbar or to be honest, anything but the standard one! any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance!!
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now what i am wondering is, does anyone know where i can get the keyboard with the smiley, possibly as an update ZIP? i am certain it exists somewhere, but i am unable to find it anywhere!
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Swiftkey has a smiley on the right side of the keyboard and is a very good keyboard as well. It tries to guess what your next word will be and offers a choice to you.
It is in the market so downloading and installing is a breeze.
does sound good however i have quite dubious about installing third party keyboards, i'm almost 99% that i have oreviously seen a HTC IME keyboard?? (sp) that was flashable to the hero, i just can't seem to find it anywhere!!
hmmm.... it seems like you want this keyboard?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416
download the low resolution one
brilliant!!! only thing now is how do i install this!?! thanks so much
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brilliant!!! only thing now is how do i install this!?! thanks so much
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Make sure you download the right one for your phone and follow the instruction on the page. I have pasted them here as well and added some addition notes.
Instructions:
* Download and unzip (not flashable update.zip!) This would be on your computer! After downloading extract or unzip the file. There will be 3 files in the folder after extracting counting the read me file.
* Install the two apks (HTC_IME & Clicker) using your favorite method (via a file manager or adb install -r). Sense users shouldn't (and needn't) install Clicker. (Put those two files on your SD card, and then using something like Astro file manager install them. You do this by opening your file manager, find the two files, click on them one at a time, and choose the option to install)
* There is no need to push anything to /system
* Go to Menu, Settings, Language & Keyboard. Activate "HTC_IME mod"
* To change keyboard, long press on lower left key on stock keyboard or any input field. Select input method in the menu.
* See note below if you have earlier versions than v22 installed already!
And as far as downloading 3rd party apps I wouldn't without reading some reviews as well. I have used the Swiftkey keyboard and like it very much. I have had zero issues with it and have tried it on several different roms.
Thanks a lot for your in depth reply, i got the keyboard working and i like it a lot! all i need now is another navbar, does anyone know of any replacements apart from the transparent standard ones?
thanks in advance!
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does sound good however i have quite dubious about installing third party keyboards, i'm almost 99% that i have oreviously seen a HTC IME keyboard?? (sp) that was flashable to the hero, i just can't seem to find it anywhere!!
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You were probably using the HTC_IME MOD keyboard!
Anyway, I am unfamiliar with the term "Navbar". Do you mean the dock style area at the bottom of the screen? Many launchers seem to refer to this as the app drawer.
yes i think thats what it is, i've heard it called the Rosie too? its what separate launchers replace are there any replacements i can flash to the phone like the Expresso navbar? thanks