Proper Way To Restore? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What is the proper way to restore in recovery? Do I just "Restore," or should anything be wiped or flashed prior to doing a restore? What data does the actual "Restore" write to the device?
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No need to wipe, i never have.
after restore, your phone will be in the exact same state that it was the time you did the backup. apps, settings, messages, kernel. everything.

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[Q] nandriud backup: data or all

when i go into recovery mode, and select backup / restore, should i be selecting backup "data" or backup "all"? what is the difference?
I believe backup data will just backup your user apps and basic data on sd. Backup all baghdad up system apps and data as well. Significance is that you would not want to restore all if you were not running the same rom
mcord11758 said:
I believe backup data will just backup your user apps and basic data on sd. Backup all baghdad up system apps and data as well. Significance is that you would not want to restore all if you were not running the same rom
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So if i would like to restore my phone to the state it is in now, would i be doing a backup "Data" or backup "all"?
when i go into recovery -->backup/restore --> backup, it says backup and restore data is recommended, and that backup and restore all was "use at own risk" or something along that line.
If you are looking to restore your current state on rom "x" down the line, our if you are playing with themes and something goes wrong you would restore all. To be honest I am not sure why you would ever restore just data, that is why I use titanium backup.
You would not want to restore a backup from rom x onto rom y
I only do nandroid backups if I am planning on playing with themes
mcord11758 said:
If you are looking to restore your current state on rom "x" down the line, our if you are playing with themes and something goes wrong you would restore all. To be honest I am not sure why you would ever restore just data, that is why I use titanium backup.
You would not want to restore a backup from rom x onto rom y
I only do nandroid backups if I am planning on playing with themes
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hmm. so I shouldnt be using nandroid backup/restore to get back to where i originally was if i was testing out a different rom?
I think you have me backwards
If you are running phoenix rom, but wanted to try paragon, you could do a nandroid backup of phoenix so that your set up on that rom is saved. Try paragon, but maybe it uss not for you, so you go back to phoenix. now you can restore your nandroid after you reflashed phoenix to get your settings and apps back. You can not restore the phoenix backup while on paragon. Well actually you could but it will likely cause issues
Now if you wanted to play with themes and you try one out and tower phone won't boot. You can go back to recovery and restore to get rid of the theme
mcord11758 said:
I think you have me backwards
If you are running phoenix rom, but wanted to try paragon, you could do a nandroid backup of phoenix so that your set up on that rom is saved. Try paragon, but maybe it uss not for you, so you go back to phoenix. now you can restore your nandroid after you reflashed phoenix to get your settings and apps back. You can not restore the phoenix backup while on paragon. Well actually you could but it will likely cause issues
Now if you wanted to play with themes and you try one out and tower phone won't boot. You can go back to recovery and restore to get rid of the theme
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So that means i should always "reflash" back to phoenix rom before restoring my backup onto phoenix?
in this case, would i be using the "restore/backup data" or the "restore/backup all" from the recovery menu? like i said earlier, there is a recommendation in the menu to use backup/restore data and a warning with backup/restore all.
dsu said:
So that means i should always "reflash" back to phoenix rom before restoring my backup onto phoenix?
in this case, would i be using the "restore/backup data" or the "restore/backup all" from the recovery menu? like i said earlier, there is a recommendation in the menu to use backup/restore data and a warning with backup/restore all.
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Yes you would reflash phoenix
Backup all, I believe the warning is to prevent you from restoring all from one rom to another.
Ok, I have a backup from stock 2.1. I am running paragon which is 2.2.1. If I try to restore my stock backup I will likely get stock in a boot loop and will have to use odin to recover. I believe, note believe, that if I restored just data I would be ok because I would not be restoring any system information. I use titanium to back up my apps, so I do not see a use for the option
mcord11758 said:
Yes you would reflash phoenix
Backup all, I believe the warning is to prevent you from restoring all from one rom to another.
Ok, I have a backup from stock 2.1. I am running paragon which is 2.2.1. If I try to restore my stock backup I will likely get stock in a boot loop and will have to use odin to recover. I believe, note believe, that if I restored just data I would be ok because I would not be restoring any system information. I use titanium to back up my apps, so I do not see a use for the option
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I see, still a bit confused because because i have a stock backup 2.2 from "rom manager". When switching between roms before, i would restore my phone back to the rom manager stock backup through recovery menu restore option before flashing it to another rom. That seemed to work fine.
Is there a reason for this? or is the rom manager backup different from a nandroid "backup all"?
dsu said:
Is there a reason for this? or is the rom manager backup different from a nandroid "backup all"?
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No they are the same, may be better if you tell me what toy want to do, I don't know how to explain this in different terms. Restoring your rom manager backup does not qualify as flashing stock if that is what you are doing
Please someone tell me how to backup using nandroid. I've tried many times using ROM Manager but still stuck on recovery 3(e). My captivate run on froyo JI6. Thanks.
max_82 said:
Please someone tell me how to backup using nandroid. I've tried many times using ROM Manager but still stuck on recovery 3(e). My captivate run on froyo JI6. Thanks.
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Get into recovery using power menu. Then you can use backup/restore to backup the rom.

CWM backup restore

I now have 5 backups stored in b&r. I notice the space on the sdcard is being used w/ every bu. Is there a way to delete old bu's no longer needed?
Um, yes
Clockwork folder on your sd. Delete like any other file
you can also use rom manager (download from android market) to manage your backups.
Backup All / Restore All
This is a "noob" question but here goes:
I've never used the CWM backup/restore. I have flashed new custom ROMs and restored "missing apps & data" via TB only so I always have to restore system settings, etc. If I do the "Backup All" via CWM and then "try out" a different ROM, can I do the "Restore All" and get everything back exactly the way it was assuming the ROM doesn't wipe the SD card?
Are there ever problems with that like if you restore system data via Titanium Backup?
RichMD said:
This is a "noob" question but here goes:
I've never used the CWM backup/restore. I have flashed new custom ROMs and restored "missing apps & data" via TB only so I always have to restore system settings, etc. If I do the "Backup All" via CWM and then "try out" a different ROM, can I do the "Restore All" and get everything back exactly the way it was assuming the ROM doesn't wipe the SD card?
Are there ever problems with that like if you restore system data via Titanium Backup?
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Nope
You do not want to restore a nandroid from 2pm x over rom y
But if you flash back to the rom that you did the backup and then restore, it will work, right?
xdahgary said:
But if you flash back to the rom that you did the backup and then restore, it will work, right?
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correct.....
mcord11758 said:
Nope
You do not want to restore a nandroid from 2pm x over rom y
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Thanks for the quick reply! I have a 1007 build and have used ODIN with master clear multiple times. If I try a new ROM and then want to revert back to my current custom ROM, can I flash back to JI6 (like always), root, get to CWM, put the backup file back on the phone, and then restore the backup file? Will that get everything back exactly like it was without using TB or reconfiguring system settings? Otherwise, what is the point of "Backup All" and "Restore All"?
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Thanks for the quick reply! I have a 1007 build and have used ODIN with master clear multiple times. If I try a new ROM and then want to revert back to my current custom ROM, can I flash back to JI6 (like always), root, get to CWM, put the backup file back on the phone, and then restore the backup file? Will that get everything back exactly like it was without using TB or reconfiguring system settings? Otherwise, what is the point of "Backup All" and "Restore All"?
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I guess it was answered as I was typing . Is the CWM backup to backup all system files, etc but not the ROM? Is that why I have to restore the custom ROM first?
RichMD said:
Thanks for the quick reply! I have a 1007 build and have used ODIN with master clear multiple times. If I try a new ROM and then want to revert back to my current custom ROM, can I flash back to JI6 (like always), root, get to CWM, put the backup file back on the phone, and then restore the backup file? Will that get everything back exactly like it was without using TB or reconfiguring system settings? Otherwise, what is the point of "Backup All" and "Restore All"?
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Jf6 is stock
No to safety restore you would have to reflash the rom you backed up then restore
The only reason I backup my setup is if I am playing around with themes and tweaks. If I am running rom x, and try theme y and something goes wrong I can restore my backup to erase the change I made.
It backs up the entire rom section of the phone, but not the kernel and modem because those are in write-only memory, or sd or external_sd (far as I know). So it's probably possible to restore over another rom as long as the kernel/modem are the same/compatible, but risky so like mcord11758 said, flash back to the rom that it's a backup of for safety.
For theme problems (-...) advanced restore, select system for a quick fix. data and datadata for apps only.

Wiping and Nandroid

Hello.
i'm curious about installing cm7. i know it requires a full wipe. i'm on cm6.
i've never wiped the phone before and i'm wondering if a wipe affects previous nandroids? if i wipe the device now, and then choose to reload a previous nandroid backup, will the wipe cause the backup harm? or, by reloading the nandroid, everything gets put back where it was?
does that make sense?
thanks.
v.
Victrola666 said:
Hello.
i'm curious about installing cm7. i know it requires a full wipe. i'm on cm6.
i've never wiped the phone before and i'm wondering if a wipe affects previous nandroids? if i wipe the device now, and then choose to reload a previous nandroid backup, will the wipe cause the backup harm? or, by reloading the nandroid, everything gets put back where it was?
does that make sense?
thanks.
v.
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the latter.
A nandroid backup is like a snapshot of the system, it will back up everything (except SD card). I have found that after a nandroid restore the phone even remembers where I had a song paused!
thank you, guys.
i'm gonna try to flash a new rom tonight without fear.

[Q]Phone won't reboot

Hey guys,
I used odin to get boot it back up and then I used ClockworkMod to restore backed up data....
After phone said 'restore complete,' I let the phone reboot, but the phone will not reboot
at&t screen pops up and then black out then pops up again then into android recovery mode.
Any ideas?
Could you please provide a little more information about how you got to where you are? (e.g. what rom/kernel/modem/theme you were flashing, what ODIN you used, what version of CWM, etc.) Anything you provide will be helpful in troubleshooting.
Well I had cognitive 4.5.3 installed and I tried restoring using clockmod recovery
the restore wasn't successful and the phone would stay black screened after Galaxy S logo screen
So I turned on odin3 and put my phone on download mode then hit start on odin3
that successfully restored the phone to froyo 2.2 without any of my data
so I tried using clockmod recovery once again to restore the backup
and then... that's where I am
The phone won't boot. It will just go into recovery mode
Here's the message I got after trying to restore once again
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ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.1.2
Checking MD5 sums...
Restoring system...
Restoring data...
Restoring datadata...
.android_secure.img not found. Skipping restore of /sdcard/.android_secure.
Restoring cache...
sd-ext.img not found. Skipping restore of /sd-ext/.
Restore complete!
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When did you make that nandroid backup? If you made it while on stock, you'll have to go back to stock first, then run the restore command. If on cognition, you'll need to be on the version you were on when you made the backup and restore there.
Here's the link I found on how to return to stock rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
I've done the first part - before the master reset and then tried restoring the backup and that is how I got to where I am right now.
Do I need to factory reset as well?
If I do factory reset, won't that erase the backup file?
Thanks. I really appreciate your help
jc830 said:
Here's the link I found on how to return to stock rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
I've done the first part - before the master reset and then tried restoring the backup and that is how I got to where I am right now.
Do I need to factory reset as well?
If I do factory reset, won't that erase the backup file?
Thanks. I really appreciate your help
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To answer your question, doing the master clear will erase EVERYTHING stored in the phone's internal memory. Don't do that step now, as you should be able to get out of where you are without doing that.
I think where your problem occurred is that at some point you made a nandroid backup in CWM, and by trying to restore that on stock, it's freaking out. If you can remember what ROM setup you had on your phone when you made the backup, you could try to get back to that setup to use the restore option in CWM.
Before doing any of the things you're doing now, had you made a backup in Titanium Backup?
I do have backup made with Titanium Backup.
apps data and everything that I could backup with Titanium Backup
Will restoring what I had backed up with Titanium Backup and then restoring the system using CWM work?
I am currently at 2.2 Froyo, which was the rom I was using when backing up using CWM
You've flashed 2.2 stock? If so just flash the rom you previously had with cwm then let it boot. After it boots reboot into cwm then perform a restore in cwm. If that doesnt work nand backup might not be good and you will just have to flash stock again and just rub tibu and leave it at that.
**Thing about NAND backups is that you have to use the same system when you restore (i.e. you nand backup usng cognition then you flash another rom when you nand restore its not going to boot).
Thanks guys for the suggestions!
My phone has been saved!

Nandroid backup gets stuck during data partition restore.

Hello all, and thank you for looking at my thread.
To start off with I have a rooted Nexus 6 with stock Rom except for TWRP and a minor change to some settings to allow hotspot. I wanted to upgrade to 5.1 from 5.0.1 so I performed a full Nandroid backup and flashed the new ROM using Wugfresh's toolkit. I realized after I did this that I had forgotten to get my text messages and call logs from the old ROM. I then performed another full Nandroid backup of 5.1 and then tried to restore the 5.0.1. During the restore of the data partition it gets stuck and will not go any further. I checked the MD5 hash for the data partition and it matches.
Is there any way to repair the backup?
Figured it out for myself. Realized that there isn't really a way to fix a backup. found a program called nandroid manager and was able to get the sms and call logs without restoring.

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