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Problem when upgrading from TuMa v1.3 to Helmi, no phone?

Hey All-
Rather then adding to the large Helmi thread, I figured it would be best to start my own...
In short today I upgraded from TuMa v1.3 to Helmi's new ROM: Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU_2.3_32mb_v1.rar
Everything went fine during the upgrade, I set the Operator Code to T%CID? which was retrieved by using GetDeviceData.exe and the upgrade went smoothly... but now the phone functionality doesn't work at all. I've tried with two different SIM's, one being a T-Mobile and the other a Cingular. Both just show no service when inserted, although if I place those SIM's into other phones everything works properly without issue and I get 'full bars' (I have another Cingular 8125 and a T-Mobile SDA).
Here is what I have done so far:
- Reupgraded the Radio to the latest rev 1.15
- Recreated the nk.nbf again with retyping the operator code
- Reupgraded to the ROM to Helmi's
- Reunlocked SIM with xdadev_all_unlock-v1.5.exe
... and still no phone service.
Any suggestions on how to get the phone functionality to work properly? Its pretty much useless right now...
Thanks!
tempie23

I'm not sure that T%CID is right for an operator code... I know for O2 UK it's O2___001 and I'm sure a T-Mobile code isT-MOB101, both of these are 8 digits... check you're devicedata output again and use the setoperator.bat to set it properly, then try again
It's all good clean fun

spkr4thdd
I have the same operator code T%CID? but only on WM5. When i use 2003SE it is DANGA001.
tempie23
I had such error on TuMa 1.4 but reinstalling the ROM helped for a while. Then I tried helmi's ROM and the problem gone. But a couple of days ago it appeared once and reflashing did not help. What I done is downgraded to 2003SE, did a hardreset and reinserted SIM. The phone came back to work. Then installed helmi's ROM again. Now it is working for a day without any trouble, HOPE it's gone forever.

Tried a few things...
I tried downgrading and then reupgrading, but it still is stuck. No phone service. Interestingly enough the LED for the phone doesn't even come on anymore.
Interestingly enough when I select the phone settings from the upper menu I'm getting a Popup message stating "The phone is not ready. Wait 15 Seconds and try again." Obviously waiting 15 seconds does nothing...
Any other ideas?
Thanks!
tempie23

sometimes (happened to me) the operator info corrupts when upgrading to WM5
copy the files attached to the update directory and run 'MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe'

spkr4thdd said:
I'm not sure that T%CID is right for an operator code... I know for O2 UK it's O2___001 and I'm sure a T-Mobile code isT-MOB101, both of these are 8 digits... check you're devicedata output again and use the setoperator.bat to set it properly, then try again
It's all good clean fun
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No it is not, it sounds like he has the same SX 66 that I have.
The ID is = AT%CID?
I posted this in this thead Here

read my above post, it can happen to anyone when upgrading to any wm5, mine happened the very first time i upgraded (TuMa 1.3), i dont know how it happens, but it seems to be permanent even with further reflashes (haven't tried 2k3)

NO Service
Midget_1990 said:
read my above post, it can happen to anyone when upgrading to any wm5, mine happened the very first time i upgraded (TuMa 1.3), i dont know how it happens, but it seems to be permanent even with further reflashes (haven't tried 2k3)
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HI.
Sorry for my post, but I did not "get" how to fix the "NO Service" error:
This is what I've done today with Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2 by baniaczek:
Hi all.
Today finally spent some time, trying to upgrade my Qtek 9090.
Everything went fine:
1st) Did a SD backup of my current settings;
2nd) Updated ROM with SetOperator to my Operator (got from getdevice.txt);
2nd) Updated without problems;
Then used the Qtek by 5 minutes (inclusively i did a phone call), after that could no longer get the "phone" working - exactly when I received a call, the phone "gone out" and never more. After several soft resets and hard resets the phone was always with "no service" message (but strangely, I could go to settings phone, and look for "the broadcasting" networks).
I swaped the SIM to another phone and it was working, never the less I got another working sim, but the problem continues (btw, I always have the PinCode disabled, and I remember now that I forgot to test enabling PinCode request!!!).
Then, just in case I downgraded the phone to W2003SE, again, and everything was working fine.
My radio was 1.12. So upgraded radio to 1.15, and started over again but with no sucess.
When I downgraded once again, the Qtek works fine with either RADIO versions or sims.
Has anyone got this "nice feature"?????
Is there any overcame solution? (My only missing test is to enable Pincode, and test if it works?)
tks for any help

I'm having the same issue here as well, tried the comm manger on and off and disable and enable it. Still makes no difference, someone please help me out, I can't get anyone to help me

What Problems you found since undating to GPS ROM ?

So it seems that so many people are enjoying there GPS enabled HTC trinity, there are so many people however (including me) are still afraid to do the move... still waiting for the official HTC ROM (who knows when is it gonna come, if it will come at all)....
My question is for those braves who upgraded already, would you guys please tell us about any problems you have with your devices since you upgraded ? speed, freezing, memory, odd behaviors, just any thing worth mentioning

Couple of minor things really..
Once in a while the start menu pops up without me pressing the corresponding buttons.
Once in a while after soft resetting, it does not start up the phone part. It keeps saying no service, but after a couple of flight mode on/off's it asks for my pin number and it starts up again.
For some reason, if I get a text message, and want to read it, the device shows the bottom part of the message first, most of the time being white and I have to scroll up to read the text.
But again, just minor things, apart from the last one, it might happen once a week or so...

The_Stranger said:
Couple of minor things really..
Once in a while the start menu pops up without me pressing the corresponding buttons.
Once in a while after soft resetting, it does not start up the phone part. It keeps saying no service, but after a couple of flight mode on/off's it asks for my pin number and it starts up again.
For some reason, if I get a text message, and want to read it, the device shows the bottom part of the message first, most of the time being white and I have to scroll up to read the text.
But again, just minor things, apart from the last one, it might happen once a week or so...
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I have none of these problems.
Only small problems I have discovered:
Timezone bug, the timezone switch back to -8 (in stead of +1).
I correct this by putting localtime and visitingtime on +1.
Alarm bug, the alarm only vibrate and rings ones.
It does not wake me up
Camera bug, the camera driver does not close the Ati driver for some reasons.
After I used the Camera I could not use CorePlayer with Ati playback until a softreset.
But I am very happy with the new rom.
It feels more stable to me then ROM 1.15 NLD.

Hi, I've updated my Trinity with this ROM.
All works fine, except that it doesn't work with my SIM card.
When I insert the SIM card, I got a message and the Network Wizard:"Your current operator (23433) is not supported. You should obtain an update from your device vendor.
Would you like to select another network provider?
Basically I can't connect to the network and the network wizard gave me only asian and australian operator I can choose from, but I'm on Orange and in UK!!
Please let me know what's wrong!
Cheers

adewidt said:
Only small problems I have discovered:
Timezone bug, the timezone switch back to -8 (in stead of +1).
I correct this by putting localtime and visitingtime on +1.
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Got this one too, I've read it had something to do with actice sync, but I did the same thing as you and it solved it for me too...
Alarm bug, the alarm only vibrate and rings ones.
It does not wake me up
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Never noticed, I'm pretty sure it does ring more than once...
Camera bug, the camera driver does not close the Ati driver for some reasons.
After I used the Camera I could not use CorePlayer with Ati playback until a softreset.
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No problem on my side (and since you never mailed the ATI driver to me because it might shut the camera off, i've got no problems whatsoever with coreplayer of the camera )
But I am very happy with the new rom.
It feels more stable to me then ROM 1.15 NLD.
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Agree...

gioazz said:
Hi, I've updated my Trinity with this ROM.
All works fine, except that it doesn't work with my SIM card.
When I insert the SIM card, I got a message and the Network Wizard:"Your current operator (23433) is not supported. You should obtain an update from your device vendor.
Would you like to select another network provider?
Basically I can't connect to the network and the network wizard gave me only asian and australian operator I can choose from, but I'm on Orange and in UK!!
Please let me know what's wrong!
Cheers
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Uhmm... first thing that is wrong is that you posted this in three threads!
From what others have said the network wizard can be removed.
If the phone works with an italian SIM (as you said somewhere else) but not with the Orange SIM then maybe the Orange SIM is very old and doesn't work in a 3G phone? Or was it working before the upgrade?

ok, you're right...sorry about that..
Anyway, my sim card works, I found out that my phone, accept all the cards but Orange!!
Is possible that a device can reject one operator SIM? do you know if exist a SIM lock only for one operator?

So far I have not noticed any negative effect which is said on the above (timezone, start button poping out, etc) thread. However, I found the improvements as per below:
1) Camera Zoom Function now works (was not working before)
2) Better battery life (finish charging in the morning, made one call & by evening still shows 100%)
3) More responsive (AKU3.3)
4) Of course the internal GPS works ;-)

gioazz said:
Hi, I've updated my Trinity with this ROM.
All works fine, except that it doesn't work with my SIM card.
When I insert the SIM card, I got a message and the Network Wizard:"Your current operator (23433) is not supported. You should obtain an update from your device vendor.
Would you like to select another network provider?
Basically I can't connect to the network and the network wizard gave me only asian and australian operator I can choose from, but I'm on Orange and in UK!!
Please let me know what's wrong!
Cheers
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You can possibly solve this by following the next steps.
Do a hard reset.
Follow the first usage screens (Time, alignment etc).
After you click Finish do a softreset.
Normally the device install some Dopod software after you click finish. By doing a softreset the dopod software is not installed. You warning/error is possible caused by Dopod software. It installes some extra not usefull (for European people) network software.

The_Stranger said:
No problem on my side (and since you never mailed the ATI driver to me because it might shut the camera off, i've got no problems whatsoever with coreplayer of the camera )
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I use the normal Ati drivers at the moment.
With the older Ati drivers the camera did not work anymore.
Try the next steps:
Do a softreset.
-Open CorePlayer or BetaPlayer and play a video (using the Ati video playback)
-Close CorePlayer or BetaPlayer
-Start the camera
-Close the camera
-Open CorePlayer or BetaPlayer again.
-Now I got a green screen and doesn't see any video playback with the Ati drivers.
-Do a softreset
-Open CorePlayer or BetaPlayer and the video is working fine again (using Ati driver)
I am not the only one with this problem.

My problems with that rom:
1.
Your current operator (23433) is not supported. You should obtain an update from your device vendor.
Seems to be a "fake error msg".
2.
Tomtom 5.1 is starting very slowly and Gps signal isn't found immediately. Takes up to 5 minutes!!!
3.
Sometimes Active Sync starts invisible without plugging my trinity onto my pc.
4.
sometimes my contact list is invisible, pressing on start solves that problem.
5.
my clock does the +1 to -8 switch....
6. my transcend 4gb mini-sdhc card is sometimes there, sometimes not.... holy ****!
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good things:
no camera bug
gps working
i hope that a original htc update is being released very soon....
greetz alex

1.
Your current operator (23433) is not supported. You should obtain an update from your device vendor.
Seems to be a "fake error msg".
What you mean by that?

"current operator not supported"
I think this message is occuring because the ROM is expecting a set of suppliers from the original region for the ROM. When you use it in other regions, it's not finding these providers, but it sucessfully connects to your local provider instead. I've had this error message, and when it appears, there's an option to say "don't display this again". Once I did this, I've never seen it appears again, and my phone is working well with no problems.
Lee.

my problem with the gps rom is these
1) voice calls go to voicemail automatically, seems to happen after a sequence of programs that i use, cannot identify at the moment possibility, gps or wifi program, a soft reset fixs this , but it will come back again
2) gps fix sometimes can take quite some time about 5 minutes b4 getting a fix

Use PIE to go to https://pda.hkjc.com/pda/MainMenu.aspx and click any of the link (e.g. Horse Racing), you'll get "The link is improperly formatted" error. Seems like this is a bug in IE handling Javascript.
I've tried hard-resetting the machine (i.e. no additional application installed) and the same error happens.
I also used another D810 with an old ROM (1.17) and this problem couldn't be reproduced.
This is frustrating ....

hkriku said:
Use PIE to go to https://pda.hkjc.com/pda/MainMenu.aspx and click any of the link (e.g. Horse Racing), you'll get "The link is improperly formatted" error. Seems like this is a bug in IE handling Javascript.
I've tried hard-resetting the machine (i.e. no additional application installed) and the same error happens.
I also used another D810 with an old ROM (1.17) and this problem couldn't be reproduced.
This is frustrating ....
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For me all ok with dopod gps enabled.

Mrjack69,
Mrjack69 said:
For me all ok with dopod gps enabled.
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Do you mean you can click further into one of the links (e.g. Football, HorseRacing) on the page without error?

I swear that my MP3 quality is GREATLY degraded after upgrading to the test rom. Used to be rich with plenty of bass when plugged into my car aux input when I was using HTC rom, now it sounds like I am listening through a tin can!!! Sounds like most of the lower frequencies are not being sent out of the audio output. Could this just be a connection problem in the jack and just coincidence that I had just put on the new rom?
Anyone else with the same experience?

1. No bass
2. Slow screen response when stylus is constantly on it. ie play games like skyforce.
3. When bluetooth is on, unit randomly turns on and stays on.
Eagerly awaiting a rom upgrade.

Good for most part
Occasionally takes long time to find gps.
Once connected works great.
Sometimes have to soft reset after using gps software.
I use my external Bluetooth when I use TOM TOM. Its a hell of a lot quicker and easier.

Is this an easy fix?

I bought a TyTN II, unlocked HTC model. It seems to be a grey import, alghtough it has a "GB" serial, the box says Singapre/Vietnam.
The GPRS networks are all from Asia/Pacific. I cannot get it to connect to AT&T.
I've searched but cannot find a quick answer (or any, in fact). Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
Keith

Try these - the carrier settings for the Kaiser/Tilt are the same as for the Hermes/TyTN, so they should work.....(famous last words)...
From @MrDSL - this post and associated CABs
From @wpbear - this post / CAB
HTH,
Mark.

Thanks Mark, these are Cingular - do you know if that's the same files as needed for AT&T (or are they the same now)?
Any danger of bricking at all by running these?
Keith
(Fellow Brit )

you cant BRICK a device simply by installing settings onto it.
you can brick a device by flashing a device that doesnt have hardspl on it however

andaroo said:
you cant BRICK a device simply by installing settings onto it.
you can brick a device by flashing a device that does have hardspl on it however
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Hmmm...methinks a typo crept in there
If a device has HardSPL installed, then it is protected from becoming a brick due to a bad flash....
@tanglin - I'm pretty sure that "Cingular Wireless" is the new name for AT&T if I remember right. As @andaroo correctly stated, it won't do any harm to install the Cingular CABs to see if that fixes your Kaiser/TyTN II so that it works with your provider.....let's face it, it's more likely to work than the current Far East networks you've got configured
If you're in it for the duration and considering flashing an updated ROM, you would do well to read the Kaiser wiki - there's a page on there relating to a ROM by Quentin - Q-Mobile 1.2 - which is pretty damn good....plus Quentin has an "AT&T specific" version that will have all the correct settings built in.
There's plenty of other AT&T/Cingular users on the Kaiser forums, so you should get a response from someone who knows exactly what you need.
Enjoy!!
Mark.

So I took a deep breath...
Grabbed the 8525 cab and installed it. Rebooted, and voila, 3G right away with AT&T!
Mark, many thanks for your help. Now I just want to find a way to tidy up the Network Wizard combo list (with all the Asian countries in) and I'm set. But since the phone's working OK, I'm relieved I didn't just drop $800 on a grey import which did not work.
BTW, I am getting good support from the vendor I bought it from, so I don't feel too bad. For example, TomTom is not on this phone, so they provided a link. The s/w I downloaded would not install (invalid PowerPC application), so they said they would send it to me on a 1GB card. Not bad if they actually do! However I do want to put in an 8GB card anyway so I'll probably buy the nav software - it's one of the main things I want the phone for anyway.
If the vendor does come up with the goods, I'll post their name. It was $100 cheaper than the one my colleague uses (obviously the grey import has something to do with that!) but the support seems to be very good from a reseller.
Thanks again for the help!!

Phone Not Ready Wait 15 Seconds - One Solution

Have just upgraded my Wizard to WM6 I encountered a couple of problems along the way but the most frustrating by far was having everything perfect with the notable exception of being unable to send or receive text messages. Every time I tried to send I got the pop up to say "Phone not ready wait 15 seconds then try again"
THE FACTS
Its a G4
Originally sold as UK O2 XDA Mini S
Paid to unlock
Flashed to UK T-Mobile WM5 and used for work
Flashed to UK Orange WM5 and used for pleasure
Upgraded to the gorgeous (well I like it) SNN Diamond Edition ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403096&highlight=SNN+Diamond
THE PROBLEMS
All RUU packages failed with a variety of error codes but the visible sign of failure was the display going blank and not firing up again. The solution was written in one of the upgrade guides "remove the SD card" (so glad I didn't post on that one. DOH!!) Read this it really helps http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
The SD Card wasn't being recognised after upgrade. I couldn't be sure how I fixed that, it could have been one or more of the following:
Repeat ROM Upgrade
Hard Reset
Soft reset (5 times as it seems to speed everything up)
Switch off phone (hold down power button and say "Yes" when asked)
Insert SD
Power Up
Synch with ActiveSync 4.5 & Win XP (connection only so untick all the boxes)
Synch with Windows Mobile Device Centre and Vista
Remember to check the memory status (Start/Settings/System/Memory)
Well whadda you know, the SD card is recognised!
OK it's not scientific I'll grant you but if it helps someone then it wasn't wasted two finger typing time.
No text messages, after much searching and reading inconclusive threads I went for a Radio ROM Upgrade. I flashed 2.71.11 but have a look at the Wiki and take your pick from the 3 listed. Bingo!! http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
CONCLUSION
Read everything before you begin, there is loads of information here, some of it conflicting which leads me on to ...
There's more than one way to skin a cat, maybe one guide might not work for your phone in your country with your Telco, just try another until you find a method that works for you. Absolutley DO NOT ignore the dire warnings though, Wizards are useful as paperweights but much more useful as PDA phones.
Don't expect much help from your service provider, Orange were strangely unhelpful when they found out I am using a phone they never sold in the UK with a cooked ROM and one of their SIMs that was sold with a Nokia Slide. Honestly, what do I pay these guys for!!
Don't despair, throw the darn thing through a window or, when confronted by a black screen, reach for the Big Hammer. Take out the battery, wait, put it back together and power up.
Do give thanks, to the guys and gals who give away their hard work in the form of cooked ROMS, who spend hours writing user guides and making screenshots, who build mini apps to simplify the process and who answer the same question a zillion times on the Forum.
Thanks Guys!!
Right, having got the Wizard running like a dream I have here in front of me an SPV C500 Typhoon and an SPV M600 Prophet. Oh and is that a Kaiser that work gave me, locked to T-Mobile, dare I?

Trinity upgrading and settings on O2

Hi all, first can i give a big thanx to all on here who have contributed and made it possible for me to use my trinity again after an awful "upgrade" to an LG Renoir, may it rest in peices.
After following all the relevant steps my old Trinity is now working a treat so i thought i'd post and mention some of the possible pitfalls that a complete noob like me might have to deal with.
First was error 260 that i read quite a lot about but could not fix. having followed the relevant steps for using Vista to upgrade, including updating the USB driver i kept getting error 260. This was easily fixed eventually by using all the same cables and ROMS and radio version by using a PC running XP instead.
If you want to update your radio version, as i did to get GPS back working, i copied the relevant radio RUU_signed.nbh file to a FAT32 formatted card and renamed it trinim.nbh and inserted the card in to the phone. The update started automatically, finished, the phone reset and hey presto, new radio and working GPS.
Eventual;ly i had an unlocked Trinity working with an O2 SIM card but could not use the internet or push e-mail as i didn't know what settings i had to change or where to change them. After a phone call to O2 they told me as they didn't sell the phone they didn't support it and wouldn't give me any idea of the settings i needed. A quick internet search and i found a little app, i think on Modaco, that once you have your phone connected via ActiveSync you just run and select the network you want, all the usual suspects are there, and it updates your phone settings automatically.
All i need now is a new battery, charging every 6 hours is getting boring, and i'm good to go.
Sorry if this is long winded but for a complete noob, as i am, some times you need it like that.
Thanks again
Steve

o2 settings payg
Just for any one on payg here are the setting if above does not work for you
it did not for me.
APN address- payandgo.o2.co.uk
I.P address- 193.113.200.195
USERNAME - payandgo
PASSWARD - passward