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Xperia overheating

Yesterday using my in built sat nav my xperia went crazy 4-5 miles into my journey, with tom tt7 flashing on and of so I pulled over and took it from the screen mount, it was hot enough to fry an egg on , i did have my heating on as it was cold, also after closing tt7 the phone was randomly flicking through menus. I had to remove the battery allow it to cool for 10 min put battery back turn on and leave my heating off, thank god all was well and continued on my way trouble free for the rest of my journey. All has been well since it normaly does get hot during use of sat nav, wifi but this was very hot.

I have the same thing, it really does get incredibly hot, Maybe it is the GPS?

Hmz i've been using tomtom for about 3 hours and deviece was just a bit warm.

normaly does only get slightly warm, but yesterday it got really hot.

i wonder if it will explode..
u know.. since the battery is made from sony

I noticed this problem... it heated up a lot due to the car heating was on and the heat was hitting the X1... I have used the GPS in the past and never had problems... Its most likely the fact had the heating on... which made it HOTTER...
Generally warm and that it...
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I supose the heat of the car's heater was causing it to overheat (it's imaginable considering the metal battery cover, that as all metals do, easily heats up). I haven't had any temperature issues to this point and as far as I have checked (Batti allows to see battery temp), the temperature on mine hasn't come any higher then about 35C.

I have a different issue. With my one, It will be fully charged, and then it will start to over heat. After a couplr of hours, say about 5 hours (at work) i check the battery of the X1, and its only got 2 bars left and needs to be charged again! This is the second time it has happened to me. The battery wont even last 10 hours!

andyboo said:
I have a different issue. With my one, It will be fully charged, and then it will start to over heat. After a couplr of hours, say about 5 hours (at work) i check the battery of the X1, and its only got 2 bars left and needs to be charged again! This is the second time it has happened to me. The battery wont even last 10 hours!
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This is probably the problem of battery.

The times my X1 has got hot tends to be from a dodgy charger. It seems like the connector needs to be perfectly in.

My Xperia is getting really hot while using mobile data (GPRS/EDGE), found out that power draw with data connection on is about 500mA compared to usual 60-70mA. I think that battery just get hot thanks to this extreme power draw, but may be there is just some chip which heats up while sending data over 3G network.

hot vs crack
When I'm in the office the phone is permanently connected to my Notebook. It loads an stays in sync with my outlook...
Sometimes I thought that it feels a bit too warm. But usually I'm dropping it in my bag quite fast.
Last week I took it and It was really hot. It felt like the source of the heat was the Battery. The metal cover was nearly glowing.
The interesting thing is, that I also found what is called "THE CRACK" at the stylus holder.
I'm not sure if the crack was there before but if not...
I'm also having a Problem with a very short battery runtime. About 5-6 Hours on Standby. Batti also seems a bit confused. Shows violet loading color even if not loading from time to time. Iwas blaming the Touch-IT Manila shell I've installed, but I am not that sure any more. Going to test an write an Update...
Do the other heaters also have cracks in their cases?

Mine got quite warm today .. when I was running Skype and QIP, waiting for some people to send me IM. In 5 minutes it become very warm. Not really hot, but it was certain CPU is working 100%.
WIFI, BT, GPS was all off.
When I closed Skype and let QIP run, it seemed to go back to normal in few minutes. Next time I must check Task manager.

haha Im living in canada and its really cold here in Ontario so i dont think it would get that hot

I've observed for a few days that my x1 also heats up. but not to a point that it almost could boils an egg. if if you google "Lithium Polymer WIKI" the battery characteristics is that it heats up to a point that it can explode. that's a downside of the battery though it is better than li-ion in terms of life cycles, it is even said there that you can't leave a li-poly battery inside a car and it explodes while attempting to charge it in a zippo bag.

Mines usually at 40 deg C with wifi on

What week did your Xperias get produced?

I use my Xperia almost everyday for internetacces on my laptop. This means that it's constantly turned on, and intensively using the HSDPA connection for hours long.
When this happens, my phone heats up as well, sometimes more than on other moments.
Is it normal ?

29.8 °C at the moment, just take it out of my pocket.
After 5-6min bowering with opera 33.7 °C start to feels lilte warm.
Still 33.7 °C after installing and uninstalling simply .cab file.
After soft rest still 33.7 °C
Change to media panel play some music and watching videos 35.0°C, feels warm.
Sometimes I can get it 37-40°C in normal use, installing some .cab's and using some random programs etc. It's warm but I think it's normal.
I think it's battery what heats the phone and what voltage/electricityis it's using at the moment, more and longer using programs,
wifis, etc it uses more power and heats the battery, and when there is no any fans or etc cooling it only heats,
after u let it down in your hand and let it cool. Sounds logical to me.
Highest temperatur that I heve get to my xperia is 48°C, It was ****ing hot and it rly never can get that hot whit normal situation,
playing music, bowering, etc. It was in charge, never happened again,
normal charge temperatur in my x1 is 40°C or lilte higer.
Hope this gives some answers.
Sry for my english btw.

my fone is at 46C now... im chargin it from pc usb n talkin on da fone using BT the weather now is about 27C... sometimes i get like 48C 49C when in da car using tomtom 7 for about 1 to 2 hour... n da weather outside is only 50F...
is this normal?? will my fone explode??

How much heat can the N1 take?

So the other day, I forgot to close an app down--the Schwartz Unsheathed, if you are curious--and when I fished my phone out again, it was hot. Very, very hot. Battery information indicated 41C which, in the grand scheme of things, isn't that high (wouldn't worry me with a PC's graphic card, for example, or CPU) but it felt incredibly warm to the touch. Fine, I shut the app down, removed the battery cover and let the phone cool down. No problem.
It might be the apps I've been trying since then, but I have been experiencing performance and stability issues. Things slow down sometimes. On the Desire ROM, Rosie kept force-closing every now and again. On Enomther's which as we all know is just about the stablest thing that ever stabled, Launcher2 does ditto (the Launcher Dock may be the culprit, though, as it seems to do some weird **** and I've removed it since. Fiddling around with BetterCut also seems to cause force-closes). So could that be it? Did the phone overheat (but if so, shouldn't it have shut itself down) and now something's broken? Getting antsy. :/

41°C should not be a problem, but consider that this was a measurement from the battery pack and that a sensor like that can easily go +/- 5 to 10 degrees.
so well, some chip on the nexus could have gotten way hotter than 41°C. maybe something fried, some defect that was already there and now its really broken.
still, this can be a bit subjective, the phone will seem broken if you think it's broken you can always do a factory reset, reflash the current rom and try from there.

Yeah, could just be my own jitters--I'd experienced issues before, usually caused by a ROM or whatever--and lately my PC's been having problems, so it might well be some kind of placebo effect. Unless it and my N1 magically entered a symbiosis or something.
Thanks for the quick reply.

once my phone accidently fell onto my bed and under my pillow while i was charging it over night and i woke up at 4 am and found a burning out nexus under my pillow. i unplugged it and nothing seemed damaged but it still worried me.

I think if you are worried about it and you are rooted you should install SetCPU. It has a profile designed so that is you his a preset temp it will down clock your CPU.
I use setCPU to save my batterylife ie.
100% - 50% run full cpu on demand.
Idle/Standby downclock to 400Mhz
50% or less down clock to 600Mhz on demand
20% or less down clock to min.
I also complement this with locale for low bat. dimness, wifi off, bluetooth off. etc.. etc.. ( a little off topic I know)

Well, looks like updating More Icons Widget was what did it; things seem to work okay now.

Was wondering what the maximum advisable temperature is?
Maybe the phone has protection for the CPU? but Li-ion batteries dont like heat, it shortens their effective life.
my battery reached 44.3C yesterday on a 4 hour journey in the car using co-pilot and the phone actually net discharged despite the fact it was on a 1A USB charger for the entire journey - about 80% at start of journey and 20% at end.
I've installed setcpu now and set the temperature profile to drop the max speed to 768 if temp is >44C and another one to drop the speed if power is less than 30%, may need further tweaking though. This was not in my car and the back of the phone was effectively unventilated, in my car I have an open backed holder near an air vent.

What's your phone temperature right now?

I've been having some abnormal temperature in my N1 today, and it's got me a little bit worried. It's at 35ºC right now, while not doing anything. It's been a hot day alright, but I doubt that can have such a strong impact can it?
What is your phone's temperature when idle? What can be considered "outside normal"?

31c in the daytime, 28-30c at night.
i believe its safe, anything under 45c

It's weird though, it had never done that. I even turned it off for some time, but still. The antenna cover is definitely hot.

26.3°C right now.

26.6 'C here now..

frandavid100 said:
What is your phone's temperature when idle? What can be considered "outside normal"?
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Right now (indoors with cool temp) its at 80.6*F
Outdoors mine will get to about 90 - 95*F usually since I am using 3g, sometimes GPS, and the brightness is maxed out.
I dont let it get passed 99*F though since that would harm the battery. Good thing is though is it's never gotten to that point

32C right now. I've gone over 50C when using it as a GPS in sunny weather. Battery seems to be fine. Replacement battery at $25 (cheaper if you shop around), so I figured an average battery lifespan of 1 year isn't a big deal.

Damn, you guys have cold phones. Ive never seen my phone below 32c. Even if I check in the morning right when I wake up.

25C.
Lowest I've seen often is 21-22 C, but that is only overnight and I put my phone on airplane mode.
For those of you with hot phones, do you live in hot climates? I've noticed my phone stays warm when I'm out in the sun.
Also, make sure you don't have widgets/etc syncing all the time. I set them to 1 hour at most, and often 4 hours.

29.6.......

Running FroYo and OC kernel atm, so usually range from 26C-38C, anything higher than 40C freaks me out so I set up failsafe on SetCPU. Lowest I've got was 18C/19C with Enom's 1.8.1|IR's kernel.

Paul22000 said:
25C.
Lowest I've seen often is 21-22 C, but that is only overnight and I put my phone on airplane mode.
For those of you with hot phones, do you live in hot climates? I've noticed my phone stays warm when I'm out in the sun.
Also, make sure you don't have widgets/etc syncing all the time. I set them to 1 hour at most, and often 4 hours.
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Got widgets, news, contacts & email synching all the time. So my phone is constantly over 30c. Goes under 30c at night time (less activity perhaps). Regardless, the battery should be sufficiently warmed if you want to keep a charge. Just don't hit the 50C mark too many times though, which is pretty much unavoidable when you use GPS a lot.
But I've noticed that after upgrading to Froyo 2.2 the battery seems to run cooler and drains much less compared to 2.1. That and a boost in performance is short of ingenious on Google's engineer's part.
However, I reverted back to CM 5.0.7.1 cuz it's just not as polished yet. Waiting for CM6 instead.

I think there definitely is something wrong with the phone... I woke up and it was cool when I took it from the stand, then I browsed a couple web pages and I canalready feel it getting warm. It got burning hot when I charged it yesterday, too.
In case it is a hardware problem, what could be the cause?

I've just removed the battery and, surprisingly, it's cool. It's the antenna cover, the plastic part at the bottom where it says HTC, that seems to be getting hot. Does that even make sense?

[Q] Does N1 heat up a lot when using GPS?

So, I took my Nexus One for a spin using Google Turn-By-Turn navigation and it was like a 25 minute drive and when I got home, the phone was really hot, to the point where i was afraid this thing may be close to being fried on the inside. The touch screen wasn't working properly (not responding to touch and being very inaccurate than normal). I left it on the desk and after 5 minutes it cooled down again and was fine.
What the heck is wrong? is it cause I kept it on the dash board against the dials, that area was kind of warm but nothing to heat up the phone that much, should I be using a cradle or something?
Its a fully stock Nexus with 2.2.1 FRG83D, not rooted and no other apps running. Same thing happened with the free program MapDroyd, so it isn't Google Navigation only issue either.

I don't use GPS much, but when I first got it, I did and it was fine. After about 9 months though its started getting pretty warm, within minutes of using 3g, roughly 38degrees celcius (about 100 fahrenheit), but apparently it's been tested and works fine up to 57 celcius (134 fahrenheit) or something like that.

it's not the gps .. it's the turn by turn navi.. it uses massive amounts of CPU that is what heats up

It is a number of factors, including the previously stated turn by turn navi. You also have the screen on permanently, plus at least where i live, anything in a car not in an air conditioning stream is going to heat up a lot.
I suggest getting a setcpu widget or some other temperature monitoring widget. I also set my cpu to underclock when it gets above 48 degrees C.

Heavy CPU usage, GPS probably generates some amount of heat, but mainly it also adds to the battery draw which adds heat. Screen is on, and you're possibly also downloading quite a lot of data unless your maps are entirely offline.
Also, your phone might be sitting in the sunlight, or in the winter might have the vents blowing over it.
So just the GPS? Not really. Run GPSTest sitting on your desk. You'll see significant battery usage (probably adds 120mAh to what it'd normally use) but it won't get hot.

Yeah, turn by turn navigation does seem to heat it up a lot, even when caching the map offline entirely on a Wifi network beforehand. My phone isn't rooted, but maybe I'll root it and use setCPU thanks.

Will actually heat up more if plugged in. Although mine never gets past 115 or so and this is with GPS and music playing.
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Fried Milestone

My Milestone seems to have given up it's ghost.
I was driving along, tracking my position in google maps, and it froze up. After removing/replacing the battery, it will no longer turn on. No M logo, nothing. It was rather hot to touch at the time it crashed (OC'ed to 1ghz, GPS on, charging, GoogleMaps SatelliteView) so I suspect it simply fried itself. Bummer.
In some thread somewhere, someone mentioned to leave the battery out for a while so that an internal capacitor can discharge but no luck.
Anybody else run into this?

It may sound stupid but. Have you tried connecting the charger while the phone is off?
EDIT: the milestone always get very hot when running navigation or maps no matter what you do
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

I realized that your Milestone is overclocked to 1ghz. What ROM are you using?

It was running HO!NO! CM7.2.0-RC0 at the time, but since any CM-based rom will let you overclock I dont blame the rom.
I'm giving it 24 hours of no battery before trying again, pretty sure the battery had around 70% charge at the time it died.

shimbob said:
My Milestone seems to have given up it's ghost.
I was driving along, tracking my position in google maps, and it froze up. After removing/replacing the battery, it will no longer turn on. No M logo, nothing. It was rather hot to touch at the time it crashed (OC'ed to 1ghz, GPS on, charging, GoogleMaps SatelliteView) so I suspect it simply fried itself. Bummer.
In some thread somewhere, someone mentioned to leave the battery out for a while so that an internal capacitor can discharge but no luck.
Anybody else run into this?
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​It always get hot especially when it is charging. Good luck...

1ghz its not too much? XD im OC 800mhz max

Yay! It's back! Left it with no battery for 3 days and it powered right up after putting the battery in. Phew!
Bummer though, was looking forward to getting a captivate glide. oh well.

In the middle of September, I've added an option (in CM7 for Milestone) to automatically limit the max CPU frequency when the phone is in Car Dock.
It's there for a reason .
From the changelog (it's there since 7.1.0-RC15-11.09.14):
- added options to limit max CPU frequency when screen is off and when phone is in car dock
(When the phone is in car dock it can easily overheat as there is usually: heavy navigation app running, gps in use, battery charging, 3g in use, sun shining directly at phone behind front car window. All this together can lead to battery temperature rising above 50C at which point the charging is automatically stopped to prevent battery damage and you can end up with phone battery empty after some time despite phone being connected to charger. So the CPU freq limit for car dock is there to help with this temperature issue.)
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kabaldan said:
In the middle of September, I've added an option (in CM7 for Milestone) to automatically limit the max CPU frequency when the phone is in Car Dock.
It's there for a reason .
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Yes I use it, except in this case it wasn't in the dock, it was on my lap as I was the passenger.
Although I'm curious. I've disabled the dock observer (car mode just annoys me at the moment). I'm assuming a disabled dock observer means it doesnt reduce frequency when docked, right?

What ROM would be ideal to use with it ?