Help me to understand something please - Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

The HTC Hero on Sprint and the Eris on VZW are the same phone right?
If the Eris gets 2.1 before the Hero does, can it's kernel source be used to make the already awesome 2.1ROMS we have even better?
I'm asking because it looks like the Eris may get Eclair even sooner than the Hero will.
Thanks

gunnyman said:
The HTC Hero on Sprint and the Eris on VZW are the same phone right?
If the Eris gets 2.1 before the Hero does, can it's kernel source be used to make the already awesome 2.1ROMS we have even better?
I'm asking because it looks like the Eris may get Eclair even sooner than the Hero will.
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Umm..not really. While the phones do share the same basic hardware, there are enough differences that the kernel won't work without major tweaking. Not that it can't be done, but it's not an easy undertaking.
Also on the kernel source: HTC doesn't necessarily release the kernel source as soon as the ROM update comes out. For the 1.5 kernels it took like..umm...I want to say 3 months of complaining to them before they released it.

Thanks for clearing that up
As for the Kernel source, I plan on pushing them hard and maybe even sending EFF.org after them

Works for me. Legally they can't delay the release of the kernel source once the application goes live.

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JIT locking up phone

I am curious if anyone has any thoughts on why my JIT my be locking up my phone. Once I enable it, it runs fine but every now and then my phone will freeze and do a reboot cycle. Yes I have HTC lockscreen disabled as well as sense. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
barnacles10 said:
I am curious if anyone has any thoughts on why my JIT my be locking up my phone. Once I enable it, it runs fine but every now and then my phone will freeze and do a reboot cycle. Yes I have HTC lockscreen disabled as well as sense. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
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From what I understand JIT is very unstable at this point. Since FroYo has JIT built in hopefully we will be able to cook up a 2.2 rom when it comes out. Regardless I'll be on the Evo by then but I might still try to work up some Hero magic
chuckhriczko said:
From what I understand JIT is very unstable at this point. Since FroYo has JIT built in hopefully we will be able to cook up a 2.2 rom when it comes out. Regardless I'll be on the Evo by then but I might still try to work up some Hero magic
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2.2 just got released :whistles: hahaha
edit: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2.html
chuckhriczko said:
From what I understand JIT is very unstable at this point. Since FroYo has JIT built in hopefully we will be able to cook up a 2.2 rom when it comes out. Regardless I'll be on the Evo by then but I might still try to work up some Hero magic
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Oh man, if I could get froyo on the hero that would be great. I'm giving the EVO some cushion time to work out any defects. I love HTC, but manufacturing quality has proven to be a slight issue in the past.
I tried pulling my log to see if I could find where the phones locking up, but no luck I'm thinking I've got something that doesn't want to play with JIT tho, cause I don't remember having these issues when I first flashed, but who knows.
98classic said:
2.2 just got released :whistles: hahaha
edit: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2.html
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Lets get rolling! haha
98classic said:
2.2 just got released :whistles: hahaha
edit: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2.html
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The link you provided is for the SDK. We need the actual source to compile it. I don't think that's going to be released until June.
chuckhriczko said:
The link you provided is for the SDK. We need the actual source to compile it. I don't think that's going to be released until June.
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True but as soon as some of the devs get that source code im sure we will see our first glimpses of 2.2 for our hero's.
ohhh, darn it. well june is around the corner. too bad i have the evo on pre order
markus_del_marko said:
True but as soon as some of the devs get that source code im sure we will see our first glimpses of 2.2 for our hero's.
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True but that's my point. Whichever devs decide not to spring for the Evo should definitely be able to get it working. Let's just hope it works with our current .29 kernel. I have a feeling it's going to need something more since the kernel that comes with 2.2 is going to be .32. But you never know. We got 2.1 working with .27 after all.
True but as soon as some of the devs get that source code im sure we will see our first glimpses of 2.2 for our hero's.
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True but that's my point. Whichever devs decide not to spring for the Evo should definitely be able to get it working. Let's just hope it works with our current .29 kernel. I have a feeling it's going to need something more since the kernel that comes with 2.2 is going to be .32. But you never know. We got 2.1 working with .27 after all.
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Someone stated on a froyo thread I saw somewhere that it was compiled with the .29 kernel
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Jus10o said:
Someone stated on a froyo thread I saw somewhere that it was compiled with the .29 kernel
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Google's official FroYo statement they put out today said it was going to use 2.6.32. Hopefully it is possible to use .29 though

Hey oh awesome devs will you dev up 2.2 on our heros?

So now that Google has release the SDK for 2.2 do you think we will start seeing it ported over to our heros?
engadget link: http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/20/android-2-2-sdk-goes-live-developers-likely-unable-to-crash-goo/
yeah, is this even a possibility at all? I'm guessing no since you needed a link from Sprint to get 2.1 on there. Am i right?
Lol would be awesome to see 2.2 on the hero though. now we just need another 3 years for the "Official"[Official]{Official} release of it from sprint lol
I am just waiting for the Evo
yes i think we should see it ported, we have some of the brightest devs here, if people stop insulting them lol i could see the port real soon, believe or not this cdma section has some talent.
Yes you will
will 2.2 work on older devices? i know google said it will work on all new 2010 android phones but i'm curious if it'll work on the hero, moment, g1, etc. i'd say yes.
zenulator said:
Yes you will
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We will see it ported????!?!?!?
Wow, we have had "official" 2.1 for 1 day and already asking for 2.2. Not like it wasnt forseen but it is still funny.
I just want to make a note here:
The 2.2 SDK is not the 2.2 OS Software.
***INSERTING FOOT IN MOUTH*** QuietCB has shut me up about the OS rant that was here.
posted this is gen discussion but thought it was funny enough to post here.
just ask engadget for a 2.2 leak. lol. oops, learn2blur
with the emphasis on Google's wanting to stop the fragmentation of builds out there, i think that our brilliant devs will do it, probably very AOSP-y
I just hope HTC releases a phone with 2.2 soon so we can not only have 2.2, we can have it with Sense.
I want JIT and Sense working together

Chrome to phone?

I may be the only one interested in this, and I know its set for froyo 2.2 and not sure if its possible but is there no way to port this back one version? Maybe make it work for us?
I really like the idea and would be disappointed to have to wait the loooooooooong time before 2.2 is ported to G1.
no it uses the new pushy mc jig from froyo
probably could back port the whole framework, but seems like a wast ogf time to me
atantekeier said:
I may be the only one interested in this, and I know its set for froyo 2.2 and not sure if its possible but is there no way to port this back one version? Maybe make it work for us?
I really like the idea and would be disappointed to have to wait the loooooooooong time before 2.2 is ported to G1.
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How do you know it will be such a long time?
Depending on the code changes between 2.1 and 2.2, it may be little more than trivial to get 2.2 running.
Also, I suggest that the first step required in either backporting or building a whole system would be to actually wait for the availability of the source code. Then we judge what would be a more efficient use of time -- building a whole system or backporting chunks of it.
2.2 will support the ION, so in turn, it will support the Dream. We just have to WAIT for it, people.
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Just a thought: during the google io presentation of google TV they make a presentation of this feature with the google box in 2.1. So I don't know if the sdk or the source code is published but can't we use that to make it working with eclair roms?
PS: here at 1:30
Time is relative here, by the time a new update is released from modders porting it to another much older phone version a new version is almost ready to be released.
This is not a bad thing and Im not talking down about it ether. But was simply asking the question if it would take too much effort to get just that .apk to work for even 2.1 that is now very stable on the G1.
2.2 was just released, and it will probably take a while to get it stable, to the point where 2.0 or 2.1 is now for the G1 anyways.
I just really like the chrome to phone and think its a super idea. Maybe I'm a bit impatient too.

android 2.2???

i was just curious if the hero was getting the 2.2 update? doesnt look like much of a difference but im still curious
It is highly unlikely that we will see an official release of 2.2, but the devs here on this forum will try to work on it. darchstar has already stated that when the 2.2 source is released and implemented into Cyanogen mod, he will port it over.
While it might seem that different, there are a lot of major changes, especially in speeed. The Market has an autoupdate feature in 2.2, Apps2SD is built in (but, I assume, it's not based on our same Apps2SD. Just the same function), and JIT is fully functioning and working as it should. The Nexus One running 2.2 runs almost 8 times faster than it does with 2.1, or so I've been told.
lol, let the 2.2 threads begin....
We barely got 2.1.
Im sure after the devs get froyo working, sprint will steal it, mod it slightly, leak it back out to the devs for them to tweak, and us to test, then sprint will release it officially about 6 months later, blaming htc for the hold up and it will still have tons of problems. Then the devs will figure out how to root it and sprint/htc will put out a update almost the next day to patch the root exploit.
Anyone else have a idea?
DevinXtreme said:
It is highly unlikely that we will see an official release of 2.2, but the devs here on this forum will try to work on it. darchstar has already stated that when the 2.2 source is released and implemented into Cyanogen mod, he will port it over.
While it might seem that different, there are a lot of major changes, especially in speeed. The Market has an autoupdate feature in 2.2, Apps2SD is built in (but, I assume, it's not based on our same Apps2SD. Just the same function), and JIT is fully functioning and working as it should. The Nexus One running 2.2 runs almost 8 times faster than it does with 2.1, or so I've been told.
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So would you say it will be an ......"extreme" improvement (har har har oh not funny). Yeah your right we'll probably never see an official release. Unlike tmobile who have said or rumored to say all their phones that can get it will.
thatguythatdid said:
So would you say it will be an ......"extreme" improvement.
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Nope. I would, however, say it would be pretty Xtreme
I would love to see 2.2 on my Hero. Especially because that would mean I could go into Sprint and show them that my Hero is running faster than their EVO
thanks for the feedback guys. yeah i was watching videos of the nexus one running 2.2 and that thing was blazing fast!!!
i sent HTC a message last night asking if the hero was going to get the 2.2 release and this was there response...
(Hello Chris, Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC America Technical Support about your device. Before releasing a ROM update we have to be sure that the software is going to work properly on your hardware and on your carrier’s network. This testing does take some time but will result in an update that is optimized to work on your device and on your carrier’s network. While we want to release software as soon as we can we will only do so once the software has passed our quality standards. At this time we do not have any information about an update for your device. When the update is released it will be announced on HTC.com.)
So basically "We don't feel like it"
abcdfv said:
So basically "We don't feel like it"
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yeah basically who needs official anyways. we can do it ourselfs!! lolol
the 2.1s are still buggy... stock or not. i don't even want to think about 2.2 yet.
Only way to fix bugs is with updates.
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[Q] Evo 2.2 port to Hero possible?

This may have already been discussed but I couldn't find anything in the search. Has anyone done this or is it even possible to do? Are there any other ways to get 2.2 with sense on the Hero?
Not possible from evo. Its build for a different processor. Best bet will be when the legend gets there official release and gets ported over.
Q&A, not development.
neuro_genesis said:
Q&A, not development.
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Its a question about development but thanks for the useless comment.
so one of my buddies that works at sprint told me august 13th the hero might get an official 2.2 update, i hope he is right
thoughtlesskyle said:
so one of my buddies that works at sprint told me august 13th the hero might get an official 2.2 update, i hope he is right
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and the little birdy on my balcony told me your friend is full of ****!
thoughtlesskyle said:
so one of my buddies that works at sprint told me august 13th the hero might get an official 2.2 update, i hope he is right
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Except Sprint already stated that the Hero and the Moment aren't getting updates to 2.2
rundmcarlson said:
Its a question about development but thanks for the useless comment.
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Which is why it goes in the Q&A section.... because it's for Questions .... You'll come to understand that we like things orderly around here... Anyway... as been answered, no not possible...
And 2.2 getting to Hero? Hah... no, not happening
Anything is possible. Officially? Probably not. Besides JIT, I cant see it offering anything worthwhile for me personally. I have a computer for junk requiring flash. My hero, currently, is blazing fast and so responsive that Im left thinking about my next touch...my device is always waiting on me.
I want a cdma legend.
Hero won't get an official 2.2 update. Sprint has said so already. That's not to say they won't release an update on August 13, but it won't be 2.2
who cares where this is supposed to be but it's here now. Anyways what really should be asked is whether someone is gonna port the desire 2.2 official rom to busy watching evo
thatguythatdid said:
who cares where this is supposed to be but it's here now. Anyways what really should be asked is whether someone is gonna port the desire 2.2 official rom to busy watching evo
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agreed....
SirRipo said:
Hero won't get an official 2.2 update. Sprint has said so already. That's not to say they won't release an update on August 13, but it won't be 2.2
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Knowing Sprint it will be an update back to 1.5.
As far as I know, the closest thing to a fully functional Froyo on the CDMA Hero would be Cyanogenmod 6.
According to this link, the only thing NOT working is the PREVIEW for the camera apps. Otherwise, from what I've read, its an all around stable ROM ready for daily use.. As long as you're not co-dependent on your camera.
I'm thinking of taking the leap today.
thatguythatdid said:
who cares where this is supposed to be but it's here now. Anyways what really should be asked is whether someone is gonna port the desire 2.2 official rom to busy watching evo
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Desire froyo is way to big to be ported. The best chances for a full port of froyo is from a legend build which when it comes out in the next month or so I already know someone who is getting ready for the port. Other than that the home made froyo is all that's gonna work for now.
jUgGsY said:
As far as I know, the closest thing to a fully functional Froyo on the CDMA Hero would be Cyanogenmod 6.
According to this link, the only thing NOT working is the PREVIEW for the camera apps. Otherwise, from what I've read, its an all around stable ROM ready for daily use.. As long as you're not co-dependent on your camera.
I'm thinking of taking the leap today.
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Been using CM6T4 for over a month as daily... camera preview? Just use camera magic for that and for camcorder... well that's the sacrifice I made to have this phone run waaayyy faster and the battery life last waaayy longer than any other ROM out there
DirtyShroomz said:
Which is why it goes in the Q&A section.... because it's for Questions .... You'll come to understand that we like things orderly around here... Anyway... as been answered, no not possible...
And 2.2 getting to Hero? Hah... no, not happening
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Are you serious??? Have you not seen the post for CM6.0.0?
Just so you know, that's Froyo, build FRF91, overclocked to 768mhz. Only thing that doesn't work is flash, b/c it's written for an arm7 processor, not an arm6.
Ryoma Echizen said:
Are you serious??? Have you not seen the post for CM6.0.0?
Just so you know, that's Froyo, build FRF91, overclocked to 768mhz. Only thing that doesn't work is flash, b/c it's written for an arm7 processor, not an arm6.
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Yes im using FRF91 but I have not seen a reason to upgrade past T4... I am overclocked to 768 and using everything that the new build has.... but again, no reason to upgrade past that.
the new nightly builds have camera preview and camcorder working

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