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Has anyone else noticed that with either Windows Media Player or the HTC Audio Manager, it will always use the same shuffle order? Doesn't this defeat the purpose? Anyone know how to get it to "reshuffle" with every play. I am getting tired of hearing my play lists in the same order everytime.
jgermuga said:
Has anyone else noticed that with either Windows Media Player or the HTC Audio Manager, it will always use the same shuffle order? Doesn't this defeat the purpose? Anyone know how to get it to "reshuffle" with every play. I am getting tired of hearing my play lists in the same order everytime.
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Amen, thought I was the only one who noticed this!
Yes, surprising isn't it. Even a using a search on all forums didn't turn up this same question. I think this is true for Wondows Media Player on all devices, or at least the one's I have owned. Would be nice is HTC could provide a shuffle option that actually shuffles with the Audio Manager. Perhaps they should call it "Reorder" instead of "Shuffle".
Just searched and this is the only thread I could find on this problem.
My media player doesn't actually play the library in folder order, but seems to shuffling only a few songs on the list.
Is playing them from the library the only option? - you can play only one song at a time when accessing the music folder with windows explorer.
to "reshuffle" have you tried turning off shuffle, selecting another track, playing it, then turn shuffle back on.
Thanks for the suggestion - yes I've tried that, but it just seems so hit and miss with the Windows media player and the shuffle play seems to repeat a few tracks too often.
I've now installed MortPlayer and it's working great, so I'm not going to bother with the WM player now.
Thanks.
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to "reshuffle" have you tried turning off shuffle, selecting another track, playing it, then turn shuffle back on.
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Yes, this is my half baked solution. I just scroll down and start a few songs later in the list as it is sorted via the playlist. It still does not "shuffle" though, just puts me at a different point in the (properly termed...) reordered playlist. If it's a short playlist though, you will figure out pretty quickly that the songs go in the same order every time, you just started at a different point.
In computing, the random doesn't exist, we can only approach it by simulating.
You won't never get a "real" shuffle. When you select this mode in WMP or HTC audio manager, it follows an algorithm, that's why you always hear songs in the same order with the same playlist. The best way is to change your playlist.
I hope this explanation is helpful and clear, and if somebody can give us more details on the subject, don't hesitate (I like learning more and more )
sarce39 said:
In computing, the random doesn't exist, we can only approach it by simulating.
You won't never get a "real" shuffle. When you select this mode in WMP or HTC audio manager, it follows an algorithm, that's why you always hear songs in the same order with the same playlist. The best way is to change your playlist.
I hope this explanation is helpful and clear, and if somebody can give us more details on the subject, don't hesitate (I like learning more and more )
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I hear what you saying regarding computers not being good at random, but I can tell you that this MortPlayer is doing a damn fine job of it.
I think that these workarounds with the playlist are a poor reflection on WM media player - I have about 1.5G in my music folder and MortPlayer can shuffle the lot without the need to first create a playlist.
I didn't say that you need to create a playlist. On the contrary, more the numbers of songs is high, more the order in which you will hear its is changing, because the probability of finding the song "m" on a sample "M" diminishes when you increase "M" ( "M " can be a playlist or 1.5 GB of songs)
I have all my music on my SanDisk MP3 players, even checked the tagging under properties in Windows - all the album/artist info is there, even the album art shows up on my MP3 players.
However, when I upload all this music to the G1 - it all reads as "unknown artist" "unknown album" - with no album artwork and no organization of the music...
anyone have an idea?
Very weird, mounted it to the computer, unmounted and went back to music, all working now....
Yeah mine did that as well, must be a bug. Tunewiki is a great music app in the market and it blows away the default music player!!!
Yeah I like Tune-Wiki. I personally, actually really like the default music player on the device. I love the simplicity of it and it just seems to work really well. An equalizer would be nice but thats about the only thing I think it's missing.
I think there is still a bug though, as out of 2,000 songs - I have 849 "unknown" - when I check the songs files they show proper tagging.
I may drop them all into "Tag and Rename" later tonight and see if that does the trick.
I have an issue with the media player not recognizing some of my album art...all of the files are of the same size/type, tags were all created with the same program, yet when I put all the songs on my sd card, only half of the album art shows up.
I'm not one to complain, but if I'm putting in all this EXTRA effort to make my album art show up(not the simple folder.jpg) I'd like it to all work, not just some of it. :-( WTF!
Exactly, I'm having half my album art not show up, and half the songs not being recognized. It sucks.
Yet they were ALL created using the same software and all tagged the same.
I wonder if it's filenames that start with a number, or a syntax issue --- might be worth looking into.
i am having same issue with tunewiki.... i dropped about 15 albums onto the sd card and it recognised only 2 of them- the rest are unknown and all have correct ide tags- checked with 2 different programs!
Do we know if they are working on this issue? I tried to find their contact on the website but got nothing.... fairly useless website actually.
Must be something to do with the G1 though as the default player does the same!
vr24 said:
Yeah I like Tune-Wiki. I personally, actually really like the default music player on the device. I love the simplicity of it and it just seems to work really well. An equalizer would be nice but thats about the only thing I think it's missing.
I think there is still a bug though, as out of 2,000 songs - I have 849 "unknown" - when I check the songs files they show proper tagging.
I may drop them all into "Tag and Rename" later tonight and see if that does the trick.
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i agree about the EQ in the default player.
so does anyone have a fix for the G1 not recognising ID3 tags?
I've used search... on this forum and several others...
The native music app, and what seems like the vast majority of free 3rd party music apps, are missing what is to me, a vital function of any music player software... browse/play by genre.
I love the simplicity of the default app, and if the default app had this feature, it would be perfect for me.
Anybody have any suggestions for music apps that browse/play by genre?
Don't think of the music players will do this, but you can create playlists by genre and play those.
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Don't think of the music players will do this, but you can create playlists by genre and play those.
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Grrrrr... For me, genre sorting is actually more important than album or artist sorting, but thanks for the help
That news is disappointing. Since I randomize which 8 gb of my 40 gb collection gets sent to my phone every few days, static playlists aren't really viable for me. Maybe if there were smart playlists?
ooooooh... just watched that video of the experimental H-port of the Hero build. I spied Genre sorting! Guess I'll just have to wait and hope
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I've used search... on this forum and several others...
The native music app, and what seems like the vast majority of free 3rd party music apps, are missing what is to me, a vital function of any music player software... browse/play by genre.
I love the simplicity of the default app, and if the default app had this feature, it would be perfect for me.
Anybody have any suggestions for music apps that browse/play by genre?
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if you want to organize them by genre just put them in files named hip hop or country or metal rock whatever. then go get the free app. "mediabypath" then open it and it will show your music files or whatever.
go to the file with the genre you want and dont click it press and hold on it (so if you have a hip hop folder dont go in it just press and hold)(make sure you dont have anything in the current playlist) and itle say "queue all next" click on that.
while its playing go to the music player , click on the top right hand icon that has a list icon ,hit menu, then save as playlist, name it whatever genre.
That will organize your playlist for you by genre. and repeat the process but make sure the playlist is cleared before doing the next genre
i hope that helps. i was one that hated having to sort through all my music to hear one song. and i hated the fact that it would play my ringtones with my music and it would shuffle them by the name instead of by folders.
Genre sorting is vital for me too and I do it with MediaByPath. I organise the music on the SD card in Genre folders (drum'n'bass, ska, trance, etc) and put the artists and albums in fub folders if needed. The app loads the entire content of chosen folder (unfortunately not the content of subfolders, which must be added manually).
Right on, thanks again for all the help everybody.
Unfortunately, I can't organize into genre folders either since the entire contents of the music on my phone (8gb) changes randomly every few days... Well, I suppose I could, but it seems unlikely that I would take the time needed multiple times a week.
I use a program on my desktop that randomly chooses a selection of my music library and copies those files to my phone. It is also set to never select a song that was used during the previous selection process. So I literally never have any song more than 2 or 3 days in a row, and I never know what songs are going to be chosen.
Seriously though, the members of this forum have been extraordinarily helpful since I stumbled across it a couple weeks ago. I really appreciate the effort.
davidemartindale said:
Right on, thanks again for all the help everybody.
Unfortunately, I can't organize into genre folders either since the entire contents of the music on my phone (8gb) changes randomly every few days... Well, I suppose I could, but it seems unlikely that I would take the time needed multiple times a week.
I use a program on my desktop that randomly chooses a selection of my music library and copies those files to my phone. It is also set to never select a song that was used during the previous selection process. So I literally never have any song more than 2 or 3 days in a row, and I never know what songs are going to be chosen.
Seriously though, the members of this forum have been extraordinarily helpful since I stumbled across it a couple weeks ago. I really appreciate the effort.
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wow yeah in that case you might have to wait for the HERO build then i organize my stuff myself in folders but i can understand how time consuming it would be to organize when you get the music randomly. but yeah sorry bro either way mediabypath is still pretty nice if you were to ever get the time to organize your music glad we could "attempt" to help
I have searched far and wide through this forum, and also googled it, and there doesn't seem to be an answer, so I will bring it up again. I have imported pretty much all of my music with iTunes, which tagged and organized all my music. However, when I put my music onto my nexus one, many many albums get sorted into "unknown artist" when all of my music is nicely sorted in folders by artists. This seems very strange to me. People have suggested double twist and a few other various programs, but no one has given any input as to whether these programs worked. Does anyone have an answer for this?
As I was looking through the albums that have been filed as "unknown artist" I noticed that each song had a number infront of it as the designation of which song number each song on the album was. I am going to play with this tomorrow and see if editing each track (this is going to suck, I have over 4000 songs in my library!!!!) will help at all.
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As I was looking through the albums that have been filed as "unknown artist" I noticed that each song had a number infront of it as the designation of which song number each song on the album was. I am going to play with this tomorrow and see if editing each track (this is going to suck, I have over 4000 songs in my library!!!!) will help at all.
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well froyo will have the ability to play music OTA from itunes with an update for the music application in the market after froyo releases. it may fix the problem. if you can wait for a few weeks it may be resolved. as for being put as unknown, maybe the artist is not tagged correctly. check the mp3 tags to make sure that data is there
Your ID3 tags are screwed up. Your filenames don't matter, it's the ID3 tags.
Use MP3Tag (google it), it's one of the best taggers there is.
+1 for mp3tag
been using it for years
I dont let any programs "automatically organize" my music
becareful with it though, if you mass edit something incorrectly you could find that all of your tags get messed up
try music folder on the market
Well, thank you very much for the info! I will look into it today and hopefully get my music all sorted out!
I have the very same problem.
Most of the replies here seem to suggest that retagging the mp3s will solve the issue. However, all of my mp3s were working correctly before I upgraded to Froyo. To confirm this, I've just done a restore to cyanogen 5 and sure enough, all were working fine again.
When I used easytag to fix some of the files, they still didn't show up the correct information under Froyo. So, there's definitely something fishy going on here!
I have similar problems sometimes when there are multiple tags (id2,id3 etc). Using an app to clean the tags and reapply them in a uniform way usually works tho.
A seperate issue tho is embedded albumn art doesnt show up for a couple of albumns. The tags are identical to other albumns that work, and so are the image file types used to create the cover art. Anoying! These are the kind of little niggly problems that make jo public buy an iphone
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I have similar problems sometimes when there are multiple tags (id2,id3 etc). Using an app to clean the tags and reapply them in a uniform way usually works tho.
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What app would you suggest to clean them up? I've tried using MP3Tagger Pro, but I'm a complete n00b at this sort of thing.
I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.
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I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.
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Thanks for your reply!
adamhlj said:
I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.
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If it makes you feel any better I have over 12000 tracks and some were tagged badly that I pulled from a friemds music library
So I had something strange happen. Ever since I got the update for froyo, all the music on my SD card has been properly tagged (at least it gets sorted correctly by artist, album, etc.) Hooray for FROYO!!
disgustip8ted said:
If it makes you feel any better I have over 12000 tracks and some were tagged badly that I pulled from a friemds music library
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Oh man, that SUCKS!!! i am glad i am not you, lol.
Android music library issues
Hi,
Here is the issue: after installing cyanogenmod 7 on my HD2, I have tranfered about 5Go of music from my pc to the sd card.
The problem is that all these mp3 have proper mp3 tag in ID3 v2.3 in UTF-8, but they are all recognized as "Unknown artists" mp3, and the album is just the folder.
I have tried to transfer an alicia keys album (only a single album) to the phone, also in id3 v2.3, and it is correctly tagged and recognized.
So I've tried to delete de media storage data, and reboot the phone.
At the start up, the system rescan the entirer sd card, but now the alicia keys albums are recognized as "unknown artist" and the album is also just the mp3 folder.
I have the same issue when rescanning with meridian player.
The problem seems to appears only when there are several folder of mp3/large amount of mp3 files to scan ex: >1Gb)
At this point, I've understood several points:
1. android can correctly read mp3 music with tags in ID3 V2.3
2. massive scan of music seems to be the cause of incorrect recognition of mp3 from android.
At this point, is there a way to properly scan mp3 with there tags, even in a massive scan ?
For some reason, a few of my albums get messed up on the HTC One. For example, I have this Michael Jackson album and every song except for the first song is in the correct album. The 1st song grouped by itself for some reason.
I checked the tags and they read exactly the same! In iTunes, there's no issue of this - they group together properly. It's not just one album either; it's happened to a few of my other albums too. Isn't this really weird??? Anyone else with this issue?