Yesterday I was texting someone, didnt even finish the message because something else demanded my attention. So I close the keyboard and put it in my pocket.
5 minutes later I take my phone out, and its off. I try to turn it on but nothing happens. Tried taking out the battery and SIM, waiting a few minutes, and put them back in, still nothing. I take it up to T-mobile and they tell me its a month out of warranty.
So earlier today, I say "ehh what the hell" so I try again, this time I held the power down for about 10 seconds, while its connected to a charger, and it boots up! I get past the G1 screen to the Cyanogenized boot screen (5.0.7 test 5 if it helps...) and in excitement I call someone in to show them. As I pick up the phone to show them, the usb cable is yanked out, and the screen goes black. Never felt ****tier. Tried to get it to power on again....back to square 1.
About an hour or two later, I look over and the face keys and keyboard are backlit, but still nothing on the screen. I also noticed that if I take the battery out while its off the charger, the backlight for the buttons will turn off, but will immediately come back on once the battery goes back in.
Basically, Im stumped, and any help would be appreciated.
EDIT: Now the button backlight is off...
I think your phone didn't shut off actually.
Try the 3 finger solute!
Hold send, end, and the menu button.
I've also had this happen to me, and to tell you the truth it didn't turn out good. :/
After awhile My touch went completely out.
It happened when I was running an experimental rom.
Also try restoring a back up if you created one before it started happening. :/
Well I know its off, Ive taken the battery out, and havent gotten it to come back on except for the one time. And Ive removed the battery since then as well. Ive tried power+home, power+camera, power+menu+send. None of them have worked.
One of two things, hopefully the first:
1.) You have a bad battery, replace it, or borrow a friend's and see if that works.
2.) You have a new paperweight. In that case, my condolences, friend.
Seriously, though, from what you described, it sounds like your battery just bit it. Try taking it out and examining it for any bulging or swelling that may not have been there before.
The woman at the T-mobile store tested a different battery and a different charger, so in my case its not likely, but I will give it another shot, since things have somewhat perked up. Right now the button backlights will randomly come on and stay on for a while, slowly dimming, and then eventually turn off, only to come back on later.
thegreatcity said:
The woman at the T-mobile store tested a different battery and a different charger, so in my case its not likely, but I will give it another shot, since things have somewhat perked up. Right now the button backlights will randomly come on and stay on for a while, slowly dimming, and then eventually turn off, only to come back on later.
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After reading you tried different batteries, I think you're in the market for a new phone. =[
The battery idea was the only thing I could have thought of as well.
Hope you manage to figure this out without having to buy a new phone, though. =[
In regards to your most recent post, sounds like some kind of short. There wasn't any water exposure was there? I've actually heard of people having there phones in their jeans pocket and sweating enough to turn the indicator and fry the board.
But yeah, it sounds like phone death. I would totally disassemble it and check for any corrosion though. Who knows, you may save it, then you have fat bragging rights
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In regards to your most recent post, sounds like some kind of short. There wasn't any water exposure was there? I've actually heard of people having there phones in their jeans pocket and sweating enough to turn the indicator and fry the board.
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They must be doing some serious running.... or be really, really fat.
Btw, you can check to see if your G1 got exposed to water, OP. Take out battery and there's a little sticker under the IMEI sticker. Its round. If it's white - you're good. Any other color (i think it turns red or blue?) there's water damage.
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Eh, bad week. First comes the small crack in my Kaiser's screen, getting out of a car, then somehow the bottom of my cup from BK giving out in my car, pouring water into the area where I leave my phone.
I know you folks have read a fair share of water damage problems, I have searched around for the last hour or two reading threads, but to my avail, haven't came across anyone with the same problem as I.
Basically, as the phone stands at the moment, it's basically completely stock. Haven't flashed anything, added a few programs, etc. Haven't upgraded the battery; everything is how it would be buying a brand new phone, essentially. As for my problem, yes, the water sensitive sticker is pink. The phone was probably sitting in about a half inch of water for 10 minutes; only the bottom half (everything below the LCD) got wet. Then, it probably sat in my pocket for a good 10 minutes before I noticed my leg was getting drenched. I took it out of my pocket, only to see my screen going berserk, thinking that it had to do with my small crack in my screen from the day before. (The crack only runs about 1/8th of an inch in the bottom left corner. The touch screen and LCD were working absolutely fine the entire day with it there.) I noticed the bottom of the phone was wet, took the battery out, etc., and promptly took the SD card and my SIM out as well. I dried everything off, as there wasn't really much water anywhere, just streaks of water here and there, let the phone sit in front of the heat in the car for a good half hour or so, and decided to test it out to see if it works.
Normally, I'd be afraid to put the battery in so quick, but everything seemed pretty dry. On my first attempt, it booted up absolutely fine, with the exception of lasting long. After the AT&T screen and the norm, I got to my home screen where the screen ended up breaking up into pixels and slowly fading black, then to white. I decided to take the battery out and let it dry again.
I got home earlier tonight, took out the hair dryer, dried it on very low heat for 30 minutes, just to be sure, and tried again. This time, everything boots up, with the exception of the graphics. It goes to a very-bright white screen, where the AT&T logo would normally be, then dims a bit, where the green windows mobile load would be, then stays that way. After I know it's fully booted, everything works, but the screen is still white. Keyboard lights up, I can receive and make calls, speaker works. Hell, I know the camera works as well because the back-light goes the brightest when I hit the camera button, and take a picture I can hear the shutter sound.. despite no graphics.
My question is, do you guys think it has to do with the crack in the screen at all, or the water damage? If I had to take a guess, it would be the water. If I touch the crack, or any part of the screen, I don't get the normal black/white discoloring someone would normally get. Yet, why would everything be functional except the screen? Since I bought the phone off of Ebay, I have absolutely no coverage with AT&T, and never planned to anyway, my only resort would be to either mess with the phone itself, or find a repair service.. and of course buying another tilt, which, could kind of burn a hole in my pocket with the holidays and all. I'm tempted to go buy a set of T torx, but of course it'd be my first time taking apart this device and if it is repairable, I'm not trying to be the sole "act" of bricking it.
Anyone have any thoughts or comments? Anything would be appreciated.
Thanks, Scott.
Edit: Gah, just got another RLOD. I've gotten past this once already.. it ended up being my manufacturer's charger. When I toggled with it for awhile, nothing seemed to fix it. I got pissed one night, and jammed the old charger into the USB slot, and viola, amber light. I changed chargers right away, and it's been working fine since. I just tried messing with it again, but nothing happened. I guess I'm going to take apart the device, leave everything standing for a few days, and see what happens, unless of course, someone provides a decent solution to this.
Edit2: Lol, Amber light again. I hate this ****. I'm really looking into the Fuze, but once again, I'd like to get this up and running.
The first thing to do if you get water damage is pull the battery and do not put it back in until you're well beyond sure it's dry and clean. If the liquid was salt water, soda, etc, it would have to be cleaned, then dried.
Otherwise, probably garbage. Especially considering it ran for a while when wet, and you then tried to power it back up after wiping it off.
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The first thing to do if you get water damage is pull the battery and do not put it back in until you're well beyond sure it's dry and clean. If the liquid was salt water, soda, etc, it would have to be cleaned, then dried.
Otherwise, probably garbage. Especially considering it ran for a while when wet, and you then tried to power it back up after wiping it off.
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unfortunately this is quite true... I've been working with electronics (specifically printed circuit boards & surface mount technology) for nearly 2 decades and have seen a number of items with water damage come out fine if it was powered down, cleaned and dried properly.
Disassembly of the tilt and hermes is very easy, especially with Mike's guide. But you have a digital problem. You could take it appart and try to clean the surfaces of the circuit boards with a q-tip and some Isopropyl alcohol, possibly a short amoungst one of the IC's. I think at this point, you've got nothing left to loose. Good luck none the less, let us know what happens. PM me if you think I can help!
Thanks guys, I'll see what I can do.
Hi
I was wondering if the OP managed to get this sorted ? I have the same problem, due to phone somehow being exposed to water. the OS loads fine, but screen stays white.
Is there any solution ?
Thanks
My camera led light just started acting funny an hour ago. It turned on and it si now impossible to turn the damn thing off. It still stays on when the phone is turned off. I've tried removing the battery and then put it back again. As soon as the battery is in, the light turns on again. I've tried a soft reset and ultimately a hard reset. Light remains on.
Don't want to have to go to Sony for this because I bought the phone off the bay a month ago and therefore don't have a receipt so it won't fall under warranty. Anyone have any ideas? What a pisser.
hi,same here
I think its a hardware issue where the cables have been short and are giving direct connection. I dont know if this will work but try to tap the phone a little hard on your palm. If its just a loose contact it might get sorted. This is a very crude way.
You guys want help or just venting air?
Great story.... so ?!
If you guys want venting off air, that was it! If you are looking for help however, then KINDLY state some info, like:
what the frak is the phone model, firmware, recently flashed, if so to what. Branded or unbranded, built date, etc.!
After that, perhaps a few answers can be expected
MichaeltheImage: I doubt that in this case this had anything to do with software because of the fact that it remained on after a boot or when the phone is off.
Moleculez: Yesterday it ended up fading by itself after 2 or 3 hours. This morning it started again as I removed the battery. Tapped the led side of the phone on my palm a few times; and it worked. Thanks.
"Anything mechanical, give it a good bash."
Incase someone is still looking for a way to fix this problem:
I managed to pry the plastic covering off of the camera lense/ LED with a needle.
All it took was a slight nudge on the LED cluster to reposition it. It was situated slightly off to one side, causing the short circuit which lead to the LED being constantly lit.
Problem is, in my initial frustration I poked the LED and broke it which, as a result of the short, meant that although the LED was no longer lit it still drew power from the battery.
The only way I know that the later fix worked was by using a power consumption monitoring tool to verify that the LED (and the short circuit) was no longer drawing power.
Awesome.
First off, I know there are multiple threads not only here on xda but elsewhere on the internet that describe other cases of Nexus One power button failures. I believe mine is different.
I suspect this has something to do with it being submerged in a cup of beer for a half a second a couple weeks back (never letting that person touch my phone again btw). It's very intermittent and has gotten progressively worse, to the point where I think it'll eventually die and at that point I'll need to turn the phone on some other way. I think somehow it is a "short" electrically inside the device. It can sit on my desk and randomly turn on and off by itself, as well as make the reboot/power off menu pop up, as if I'm holding down the power button. This makes using the phone extremely irritating, especially now, as the problem worsens. I can't do much in Recovery, at least CWM, because the power button either turns off the screen or goes to the previous menu. And while typing, the phone screen will either turn off, or the reboot menu will pop up, and I'll accidentally tap something else. Frustrating. My question is basically...is there a way to disable the power button without opening the device? I'm guessing probably not, but it's worth a shot...I purchased the phone in 04/2010, from a third party, and it's no longer under warranty. I was planning on waiting to get the Galaxy Nexus, and if not, the Samsung Galaxy S 4G. I've been dreading the day I need to retire my beloved Nexus One....and it looks like it's going to be sooner than I wanted.
Thanks for any replies.
Normally I would say there is probably still a little bit of water in the power button housing but since it was a few weeks back I doubt it. But I guess you could always try the bag of rice trick. If then I don't know and you may have to open it up :/
I had the same problem for about 5 months and it has sense sorted its self out without me doing anything. Now the power button functions 100% (knock on wood).
I had placed it top down in my cup holder while driving for 3 hours and had not noticed a bit of condensation from that mornings water glass. I got home, grabbed my phone, and noticed a wet spot on my pocket and my phone had water on the top. It was in the Case-mate case in my sig and I let it dry over night and it worked the next day after blow drying the inside. But a week later the power button was clicking on and off. That was the longest period of use my G1 has seen sense I bought my N1.
Some days it would go on for an hour+ and would wreck the battery life. I tried everything and was unable to find a way to disable the power button presses.
I did not open the phone even though it was a month out of warranty. My assumption is there was still some sort of moisture inside that was causing a short. Because you never had a warranty in the first place, I would say your best bet is to take it apart and let it sit in rice for at least a couple days.
Ok, I have an interesting problem.
Yesterday I've dropped my phone in the toilet, there was bleach in the water.
I immediately took it out, took the battery out, cleaned as much bleach off as I could, then completely took apart the phone and had each component dry separately.
However, in doing so, I ma have damaged something, not sure what yet. The only thing I found was the little ribbon cable that connected the power button to the motherboard had a slight crease in it. But basically the problem is that I now can't put my phone to sleep. If I press the power button, the screen shuts down for about 1 second and then wakes up again. If I just leave it it would periodically try to sleep, fade the screen and come back on again.
There does not seem to be any other problems present, such as random button presses when the phone is awake, so I'm a bit at a loss as to what this could be. Any thoughts?
definitely is hardware problem, not 100% sure though, but I am wondering why recently there are quite some people dropped their phone into toilet bowl.....
I don't know lol, something to do I guess...
Hm, it seems to have fixed itself now, I changed nothing.
EDIT: It's back again. Once again, I didn't do anything, it's only been sitting there charging, started waking up and going back to sleep faster and faster.
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I don't know lol, something to do I guess...
Hm, it seems to have fixed itself now, I changed nothing.
EDIT: It's back again. Once again, I didn't do anything, it's only been sitting there charging, started waking up and going back to sleep faster and faster.
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There's still some moisture inside the phone. People try to get rid of it by putting it in a bowl of rice. Yes, I know how this looks But the solution is always appropriate to the problem Visit the thread I posted below for some answers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363416
Alright, I shall do that, see if it helps. Thanks man!
TLDR: I was cuddling my gf to sleep while using my phone. I fell asleep too. The phone was in bed with us for a couple of hours, but I don't think either of us lay on it, though my gf may have put some weight on it while getting up from bed to go to the w/c.
This morning it was unresponsive to touch, after rebooting it twice it won't turn on at all
When I press on the screen 1/3 of the way down with a bit of force, I feel it moving a bit and I can hear and feel a click on the inside.
The glass is intact.
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I fell asleep with the phone in my hand and I must have let go of it in my sleep. I woke up when my girlfriend was going to the bathroom in the middle of the night. The phone was still in the bed near where my hand was when I was falling asleep, but it was also in the path of my half asleep girlfriend rolling out of bed. I checked to see if it was still alive by pressing the power button and the screen turned on. Satisfied, I put it on my nightstand and went back to sleep.
When I woke up this morning I tried using it. It wasn't responding to touch at all, not even the home row buttons. But the volume rocker worked and so did the power button menu, but I couldn't select reboot in the menu with the touch not working. I force closed it with power + volume up, and when it rebooted it still wouldn't respond to touch. I force closed it again and now it won't turn on at all. I tried numerous button combinations (power on + volume up, down, all three, holding for up to 20 seconds) and it doesn't respond to being plugged into the wall or to the computer either, no led light and it's not mounting on the PC. It had about 60% power left before force closing it.
The funny thing is is that I couldn't figure out what the cause was for a long time. I googled it and search results for Z1's "sudden death issue" appeared and I figured it was something like that. Or maybe it was a delayed effect of putting it underwater 2 days ago.
But then it dawned on me, it was (of course) what had happened in the middle of the night. The phone looks completely fine, but after examining it closer, when I press on the screen 1/3 of the way down with a bit of force, I feel it moving a bit and I can hear and feel a click on the inside. I wonder what that could be..
What are my options now? I got the phone just a couple of days ago. I doubt this is covered by warrenty right? User error?
I'm not sure if this is even the real cause though - I didn't see it happen.... but I guess it's the most logical explination.
My girlfriend is pretty small so I'd imagine she would have had to put all her weight on her hand or elbow when she was getting up to be able to break the phone like that. I have a foam mattress which probably absorbed a lot of the weight? If this is indeed the case, I'm a little disappointed in the build quality if this broke something in the phone's innards with relative ease.
Any advice would be appreciated. It's the UK model bought outside of the UK from a local retailer. This is my first good smartphone and I loved it for the short time we had together. I'm devistated about it and not really sure what to do next.
Someone hold me
No visible damage = return it as faulty
Just say it died overnight while charging.
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No visible damage = return it as faulty
Just say it died overnight while charging.
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Thanks, that's the plan I just emailed the seller
Edit: They said to go to a Sony store to claim warrenty on it
adamk7 said:
Thanks, that's the plan I just emailed the seller
Edit: They said to go to a Sony store to claim warrenty on it
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You should have a 14 day guarantee with the seller if you bought from UK..
I would go back to them and demand a replacement..
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So I was just about to go to the sony store, I had the phone, cables and everything neatly packed up an ready to go. I decided to give it one last try just in case to avoid the all too common scenerio when it unexplicably magically starts working in the store. I plugged it into a wall charger and held down the power button and the red light turned on! I left it for a minute and then pressed the power button again, and the screen turned on with a battery charging logo! It looked like the battery was fully dead so I left it for 5 minutes and turned it on again. It booted up! Now the moment of truth: will the touch screen work....
Drum roll......
It does!
Everything works normally now. I have no idea wtf happened but I'm really happy that I don't have to deal with sending it in and everything.
Though I'm a little worried about what the screen clicking is, that's still there.
I'll post a video later and might take it in to sony anyway to see what they say
Edit: I made a new thread with the video: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/help/video-pressing-screen-spot-makes-t2918289
adamk7 said:
So I was just about to go to the sony store, I had the phone, cables and everything neatly packed up an ready to go. I decided to give it one last try just in case to avoid the all too common scenerio when it unexplicably magically starts working in the store. I plugged it into a wall charger and held down the power button and the red light turned on! I left it for a minute and then pressed the power button again, and the screen turned on with a battery charging logo! It looked like the battery was fully dead so I left it for 5 minutes and turned it on again. It booted up! Now the moment of truth: will the touch screen work....
Drum roll......
It does!
Everything works normally now. I have no idea wtf happened but I'm really happy that I don't have to deal with sending it in and everything.
Though I'm a little worried about what the screen clicking is, that's still there.
I'll post a video later and might take it in to sony anyway to see what they say
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Glad to hear it
I have the same phone symptoms as OP. Except, I was using the phone just 15 minutes before it refused to turn on. Also, for the first time I noticed the glass making a clicking sound when pressing coming from the middle of the screen, inline with the power button. I`ve tested the phone before and never heard this clicking sound.
At this point, even if the phone fixes itself, I`d rather send it in for repair before the clicking turns into a screen fracture.