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Thanks to this forum and especially Cyanogen, I was able to enjoy my G1 much more than what I would have. As much as I loved my G1, it still frustrated me and was ready for something better....I broke down and got a Motorola Droid. There are a million reviews, so won't bore you with redundant info, but give a quick comparison to my G1 experience.
My G1 was running Cyanogen 4.2.3.1 and I have owned it since last years pre-order.
What I love about the Droid
1. Speed- the phone is FAST...not just running multiple apps, but network speeds put T-Mobile to shame. Downloading and installing apps takes seconds. I can use Google Navigation and run Pandora and text away and the phone runs flawlessly, has yet to freeze or get bogged down.
2. Display - it's gorgeous and with 2.0, the icons and pics look amazing.
3. Android 2.0 - Google backs up all your settings, including bookmarks and apps. I had to exchange my first Droid and when I signed into my Google account on the replacement, all my apps were automatically downloaded and installed, my background changed, and my bookmarks were all there. Doesn't store app data, but still nice. Nice integration with Facebook without being in your face. Lots of neat touches here and there, seems like a much more finished and polished OS. Google Navigation is a great product, look forward to updates.
4. Fit and Finish - compared to the G1, the feel is sooo much better.
5. Battery - so far been great. Haven't put down the phone since Friday and it lasts all day no problem.
What I don't like
1. G1 keyboard way better. More spacious and just easier to use.
2. Sound quality - using Pandora, my G1 was crisp and clear, with the Droid, I get distortion if I turn it up to loud through the 3.5 jack to my car stereo
3. No root - no home screen rotation, wi-fi tethering, etc.
Happy for you. Right now all of us T-Mo guys are jealous of Verizon subscribers.
Unless they can match it, our carrier is going to lose all the enthusiasts they gained when the G1 launched.
Your comparing a phone thats out of its leauge(hero vs droid vs cliq s better)? Anyway thnks for review verizon has bigest network so theres no reason to put down us tmo users.
Yeah I love my g1 but I am wanting a new android phone also. Verizons pricing is way to ridiculous for me. I was tempted to get a sprint hero but it looks like the hero is going to be outdated soon. I kind of like the sprint samsung moment with its 800 mhz processor, so its between this or the behold II unless there is something coming soon that I should wait for?
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Yeah I love my g1 but I am wanting a new android phone also. Verizons pricing is way to ridiculous for me. I was tempted to get a sprint hero but it looks like the hero is going to be outdated soon. I kind of like the sprint samsung moment with its 800 mhz processor, so its between this or the behold II unless there is something coming soon that I should wait for?
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wait till beginning-mid 2010 mate for new phone.
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Your comparing a phone thats out of its leauge(hero vs droid vs cliq s better)? Anyway thnks for review verizon has bigest network so theres no reason to put down us tmo users.
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Haha...not putting anyone down. I didn't even realize I had been with T-Mobile for so long but when I called to cancel my service, she said but you have been with us for 8 years, is there anything we can do. I didn't have the heart to say quit getting crap phones. I shouldn't say crap, but every phone they have or are getting just has at least one major flaw (for me). I have to have a physical keyboard, although honestly with the bigger screen on the Droid, the onscreen keyboard isn't so bad and because I am not completely used to the physical keyboard, been using the onscreen quite a bit.
Verizon is a little pricey, but through work I get a 20% discount, so it actually works out cheaper than T-Mobile. I was paying just at $100 a month with taxes and Verizon is going to be $10-15 cheaper.
I am just happy to finally see so many Android products being released. I was a bit nervous the first few months with my G1 because it just didn't seem to be catching on and the apps were lacking. I think a lot of big comnpanies took a wait and see approach and they are finally producing some quality apps (like Pandora, etc.). Competition is good for us all and I hope the G1 keeps evolving through the guys here that keep making ROMS for it.
just ordered a new ext batt for my g1. i'm keeping it until i see something that is a major hardware upgrade that wont have to be upgraded soon. maybe bt 3.0?
Hey XDA,
I've had the G1 for more than a year and a half now, and with all these new phones coming out im really considering a nexus one. But there are allota questions i still have to ask that pertain to people that actually have the phone. I'd appreciate any help.
1. I'm sick and tired of getting the newest "hottest" phone, and then realizing theres so much more just around the corner. With the EVO 4G coming out, the HTC Desire on the horizon, the new Iphone announcement most likely coming in summer - i just want to know if the nexus one is "futureproof". I've been flashing ROMs to my g1 just to keep it as close to the newest and greatest android i can get on it, but i really know now with all these snapdragon processor phones coming out the g1 aint gonna cut it. What do you guys think about the nexus one being futureproof? I'm most likely going to be flashing the latest Cynanogen or the new Desire ROMs on it when I get it. Will cooked ROMs enable me to be on par wiht the competition the Nexus will get in the coming months?
2. How does the Nexus One compare to the HTC Desire? I know they are pretty much the same phone but looking at some reviews, it seems like the Desire is much more highly touted. Since I can get the Desire ROM on my Nexus One when I get it, will the two phones really function that different? Is there a noticable speed boost with that extra about 70MB of RAM the Desire has? I've heard some things about the screen being very responsive - is the screen on the Desire different from the Nexus One? Really, what's so great about the Desire the Nexus One doesn't have?
3. Really. How fast is the Nexus One, stock and with a Cynanogen ROM? Do livewallpapers work flawlessly? Does switching from app to app happen blazing fast?
4. Is the screen that bad to use in the sunlight where its pretty much rendered unusable? I'd like to know from you guys experiencing the phone.
5. About that reception issue the Nexus One is having, is there a really high cahnce the phone I order will have the issue at this point? Is the signal reception issues really bad where I will have that much trouble getting 3g? How bad is it really? I live in NY. So if anyone of u guys live here i'd appreciate your view.
Thanks alot XDA, I'm really looking forward to some answers, and apologize for taking your time.
Greetings!
Like I always say, these are all based on my opinion and experience. You or others might think otherwise...
1- IMO the N1 will be a keeper for quiet awhile, although there might be great phones that are out or coming out, they are less likely to have the latest updates since they arent google devices, they alsi wont get as much attention from the devs compared to the N1‚ just like the G1 to Hero/Mytouch.
2- I consider the desire to be an N1 with sense UI, they're very similar, except for a few things like N1’s noise cancellation features which the desire won't have, anything the desire has however, you have the option to have in the N1 when you flash Modaco's Alpha version of the desire. ( I should say its great for being an Alpha version only).
3- I cannot stress how fast this phone is. live wallpaper works flawlessly and you have Cyanogen, Enomther, Kingklicks and other ROMs available that makes it even better.
4-AMOLED isn't as great as SUPER AMOLED, but with the auto brightness tweak that Enom and Cyan and Modaco have in their ROMs make it good enough for me.
5- I never had a problem with my order or my device, and I ordered it January so they probably fixed minor issues by now to avoid returns, still I suggest you give it a few days before unlocking and rooting ur phone just incase... As far as signal goes I think its all about the network you're on, and since the N1 will be available to all carriers if not already, pick the network that suits u best.
Good Luck brother!!!
1. Nexus one ftw, i just got my nexus one over the HTC desire paying around $260 more for nexus. Reason nexus got many pros n zero cons. Nexus one is one phone gonna live more than 2 years coz its google branded and sold by google and at max only a 1.5 ghz phone can be out in the market and its not gonna happen till mid 2011. Nexus got OC, it is developer friendly it got a big developer support, i know how it feels not to have a good developer backbone. We got all the funky, risk taking deveopers here which is going to unlikely with any other phone. Most G1 developers shifted to N1. For the screen i travel a lot around the worls and nexus has been with me in the brightest SUN. If you make the brightness around 1/2 u can see most stuff on screen, for text reading u need to turn it to full, same was with my Hero, Magic, G1 and Liquid.
For the reception Nexus is the only phone i got which has 2 bars in the basement of my mall which is 2 floor underground.
About EVO, i may have one of the biggest hand but handling HTC HD2 was nothing like holding a monster, its barely gonna look good in ur hand, u will feel awkward n clarity of Nexus will be more due to higher dpi of Nexus. and for EVO on NExus will surely run faster due to the devs we have here. Everything will be ported to nexus. Nexus will have best of both worlds VANILLA (CYANOGEN) and Sense(Paulobrien{Modaco}.
For the speed i currently have more than 413 apps on my phone last i checked n it is still faster than stock nexus one ( U know stock isnt gonna be slow). i get no Lag nothing, NO FC n battery lasts around 14-15 hours ( I use it at full brightness coz i am mostly outside and i got wifi always on, twitter checks every 5 min, 3g always on, Web browsing on the go sites like xda and gizmodo etc, n play my favourite game asphalt(almost finished, was released around 5 days ago n it is a long game), i got no complaints with nexus n i ordered it with a dock coz dock is awesome
About the Build quality- My dad threw my phone in anger on a hard marble floor from around 6 feet and it bounced 3-4 times on floor. no scratch nothing, guess i was lucky (dont try this)
I love the nexus and i am proud to say NEXUS FTW
will tel more of my expreience but gotta go, hope u get it soon
bumpitup wishing to hear even more responses!
Im having the exact same problem as you... I have the g1 currently and love the roms and all the work that the devs have put into it, but my g1 isn't cutting it anymore and i need an upgrade. I was looking at the HTC desire (im in the UK) which on tmobile will be considerably cheaper than the N1 when it gets released, but I am dubious whether the Desire is going to be right for me. I really want a phone that a lot of the devs will support so it can be as fun as the g1 was for me
Buy one i just got mine two days ago, best android phone, better then the iphone in every sense, if your into complete freedom and customization you will love it....
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Im having the exact same problem as you... I have the g1 currently and love the roms and all the work that the devs have put into it, but my g1 isn't cutting it anymore and i need an upgrade. I was looking at the HTC desire (im in the UK) which on tmobile will be considerably cheaper than the N1 when it gets released, but I am dubious whether the Desire is going to be right for me. I really want a phone that a lot of the devs will support so it can be as fun as the g1 was for me
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wrd up man, the g1 was hella fun. but with the nexus one out now, im definitely looking for something better than the g1 - and i want that same fun, flashing different ROMs, customizing the hell out of it, showing it off, it was great. definitely stuck on purchasing the n1 though because its alot of money to invest when there are more phones just around the cornerrr
Im almost positive you guys will love the N1, specially coming from a G1. For me it'll take a lot for the competing phones to pass up the N1, unless they come out with a dual processor phone that looks as pretty as the N1, then its time to switch to a new phone.
As I said in another thread, I am probably going to sell my Desire and get an N1.
But I am wary of buying a 6 month old phone - especially with the rate android is moving forward at.
My question is - will the N1 be surpasses anytime soon with another google phone?
I know there are other phones out their with better specs (eg EVO) but I am talking about a real google phone, like the N1, which gets updates straight from google without anyone in between getting in the way.
It's probably a stupid question asking seeing as no one knows what companies are planning, but I guess I'm just looking for someone to convince me to take the plunge!
my guess is that the nexus one wil lbe the flagship phone, google's phone, for a full year. so look until january before a replacement comes along. even though the incredible and evo are here, the nexus one remains the developer phone. and i dont think that is going to change until january. just my opinion.
there is no doubt that eventually the N1 will be surpassed. I love my Nexus One, but one of the MAIN reasons I got the N1 was because I was gambling that Google would treat it like its own personal baby. Favoriting it, giving updates sooner then the rest of the phones, and hopefulness that because it was their baby they would suite Android to work around the Nexus One, ie. If 2.2 did not work on the Nexus One, they would have MADE it until it worked on the Nexus One.
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there is no doubt that eventually the N1 will be surpassed.
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+1.
To OP:
You're not buying a computer that "will not be surpassed", right? Because you know that new technology is out on a monthly basis.
So why do you expect anything different in a smartphone that is essentially nothing else but a mini computer?
Yes, in a year or maybe even 1/2 year you'll no longer be on par with the top dogs, and in 3 years your phone might probably be scrapped. So? That's how things work.. They develop.
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+1.
To OP:
You're not buying a computer that "will not be surpassed", right? Because you know that new technology is out on a monthly basis.
So why do you expect anything different in a smartphone that is essentially nothing else but a mini computer?
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Thanks for the replies guys.
Well as all I am looking for is a phone direct from google, then it is quite reasonable to expect it not to be surpassed each month.
I don't really care if a better android phone comes out, I will only have buyers remorse if a Nexus Two came out soon, but I suppose when that happens is anyones guess.
The guesses that are currently out say that there's no other Google phone planned for this year (at least), so if you want to buy Nexus because you want Google's Android Development Phone platform - you can count of trouble-free 1/2-year.
(but at the end of the year 1.3GHz phones might appear, and the next year can bring dual cores... So if you want to stay in the top pack, I guess 1 year is the phone's lifespan).
Am I the only one that isn't completely wowed by the Evo?
The front facing camera is nice, but there isn't a lot of software support and I can't see myself using it much. My laptop has a web cam built in, and I don't know if I have ever used it. None of the people I would be talking to would have a camera on their phone anyway.
The screen is nice and big, but the resolution is still the standard 800x480 so it's not displaying any more on screen than the N1, Desire, Incredible. Plus processor isn't any better. 4G is great, but availability is obviously limited.
I just don't think it's the huge improvement over the Desire and Incredible that everyone seems to believe. Plus the more I use Sense UI, the less I like it.
The way I see it is you need to look at 2 things in regards to these types of phones... the hardware... and the availability of updates to the software...
Hardware wise, The Nexus is completely sufficient. 1ghz processor, 512mb of RAM, a great camera, a nice AMOLED screen, and a very durable build quality...
Software wise, it's vanilla Android and is first in line for updates from google... All the competing phones have that (sense, blur) crap built-in that severely hinders the release process of updates ... they will ALWAYS get updates later than any phones with vanilla Android...
If you get an EVO or an Incredible or whatever else comes out in a few months... you will gain a few minor things as far as hardware spec differences, unless u want an over sized bulging screen in your pocket. The camera? Who cares it's a friggin' phone... 5mp is PLENTY. You already have to optimize even 5mp as a standard to even send as MMS. Anything over 1ghz is pretty much overkill for android in its current phase... it's a phone... it runs fast as hell it doesn't need a dual-core processor geeze.
I dunno... I really think the nexus is still the best bet people who want a touch-based phone and always want to be on the bleeding edge of android os developments.
Have to say, you have a Desire, which is essentially the Nexus One with a different skin, why look at the Nexus? I get your main point, the N1 already has Froyo, everyone else is waiting, but Froyo is being ported to the Desire as we speak. If you know a bit about modding and don't mind being a month or two behind, save some money and let the devs cook up a Froyo rom, and be assured that whatever comes out for the N1 will make it to the Desire. Hell, if the Dream and Magic can handle Eclair, anything is possible.
Side note, I have an N1 and installed Froyo, really liked it but went back to Cyanogen's 5.0.7. Many other N1 users have done the same. Once you get used to a custom rom, its hard to do without many of the bells and whistles you're used to, so I don't mind sitting and waiting for a customized Froyo.
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Have to say, you have a Desire, which is essentially the Nexus One with a different skin, why look at the Nexus? I get your main point, the N1 already has Froyo, everyone else is waiting, but Froyo is being ported to the Desire as we speak. If you know a bit about modding and don't mind being a month or two behind, save some money and let the devs cook up a Froyo rom, and be assured that whatever comes out for the N1 will make it to the Desire. Hell, if the Dream and Magic can handle Eclair, anything is possible.
Side note, I have an N1 and installed Froyo, really liked it but went back to Cyanogen's 5.0.7. Many other N1 users have done the same. Once you get used to a custom rom, its hard to do without many of the bells and whistles you're used to, so I don't mind sitting and waiting for a customized Froyo.
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A few reasons really:
1. I now really dislike sense.
2. HTC have gone to unnecessary lengths to prevent root access. We don't have a full root yet and we may never have it. Also they're are over 60 people who have bricked their desire and the cause is not known, this is slowing development.
3. I don't want it to end up like the hero, that was their last flagship device and its still on 1.6 for most people.
4. Fast updates - always good.
I'd just like to have vanilla android without having to risk bricking my phone really.
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A few reasons really:
1. I now really dislike sense.
2. HTC have gone to unnecessary lengths to prevent root access. We don't have a full root yet and we may never have it. Also they're are over 60 people who have bricked their desire and the cause is not known, this is slowing development.
3. I don't want it to end up like the hero, that was their last flagship device and its still on 1.6 for most people.
4. Fast updates - always good.
I'd just like to have vanilla android without having to risk bricking my phone really.
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i've used Sense so much and i totally hate it as well. i'm so much happier with my nexus vanilla android experience. i do get why some people like sense, but for me personally, i dont like it.
In my opinion, the closest phone to 'overtake' the N1 will be the Samsung Galaxy S. The triangles that thing can push out is supposed to be very impressive. Other phones, to me, come down to preference (Evo for screen size and network, Desire for Sense). The N1 will probably be the first phone to get Gingerbread and even the update after that at least.
We'll see 1ghz phones become more common before a bump in processor speed happens, I feel. The N1's a nice phone and worth the money.
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Am I the only one that isn't completely wowed by the Evo?
The front facing camera is nice, but there isn't a lot of software support and I can't see myself using it much. My laptop has a web cam built in, and I don't know if I have ever used it. None of the people I would be talking to would have a camera on their phone anyway.
The screen is nice and big, but the resolution is still the standard 800x480 so it's not displaying any more on screen than the N1, Desire, Incredible. Plus processor isn't any better. 4G is great, but availability is obviously limited.
I just don't think it's the huge improvement over the Desire and Incredible that everyone seems to believe. Plus the more I use Sense UI, the less I like it.
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you are not alone. the EVO just doesnt wow me either. when 1.5gHz phones come out, then maybe i'll ditch the nexus. but the current hardware (evo and incredible) are so similar to the nexus, they are all cousins and in the same league. nexus gets the newest updates and has best build quality, so some would say its actually the better of the 3.
If you haven't bought one by now, I would hold off. Expect HTC leaks to start up again for their new lineup for next year.
It also depends on how you plan to use the phone.
I am not too worried about cpu muscle. Everything I do on the N1 happens pretty much instantly. That a more potent cpu might load something faster as can be measured by testing equipment doesnt matter to me. Now if those new dual cores bring optimizations to improve battery life that might catch my eye but brute stength, nah. I really dont see what the evo or incredible bring to the table for me outside of the larger screen on the evo. Even there I recently handled an X10 and to my mind that is about the perfect screen size, I find the evo just a wee bit clunky in the hand. To be honest there is no announced handset in the works that even slightly peaks my interest. I'm guessing there will be nothing that catches my eye until the hollidays at the earliest. Personally I was hoping that the N2 (following in the fully unlocked steps of the N1) might be seeing the light of day around then.
edit.... I'm basing my feelings on the size of the evo on handling the HD2, I have not had an evo in hand.
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I am not too worried about cpu muscle. Everything I do on the N1 happens pretty much instantly. That a more potent cpu might load something faster as can be measured by testing equipment doesnt matter to me. Now if those new dual cores bring optimizations to improve battery life that might catch my eye but brute stength, nah. I really dont see what the evo or incredible bring to the table for me outside of the larger screen on the evo. Even there I recently handled an X10 and to my mind that is about the perfect screen size, I find the evo just a wee bit clunky in the hand. To be honest there is no announced handset in the works that even slightly peaks my interest. I'm guessing there will be nothing that catches my eye until the hollidays at the earliest. Personally I was hoping that the N2 (following in the fully unlocked steps of the N1) might be seeing the light of day around then.
edit.... I'm basing my feelings on the size of the evo on handling the HD2, I have not had an evo in hand.
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I agree, some people are too obsessed with benchmarks imo. The phone does everything you want pretty much instantly, and there's not many processor intensive apps for android anyway.
evo is great except:
1) sprint only
2) contract only
What would make it better than the nexus:
1) simple way to root.
2) runs standard Cyanogen or AOSP, no proprietary stuff like sense.
3) supports GSM
I waited three years before jumping in, loved android right from when it was announced. The Nexus one pretty much has no challengers for the throne yet. A true open phone.
Take it with a grain of salt, but when I went to a local TMo store to get a SIM for my wife's new N1, I was asking about when they think they might be getting the N1 in (seeing as there's already some 3rd party places selling the N1).
I was told they probably won't be getting a google phone in until the Nexus TWO, sometime in November of THIS year.
My take on it is this; If it's something you want, get it now and enjoy it. There is ALWAYS something better, faster, sleeker and that will cost less coming right around the corner.
If the N1 had a touch screen that wasn't so terrible I'd really want for nothing. Maybe some better battery life..
If you're talking about a straight Google phone unlocked, then yes, one will be out this year. Earlier in the year, someone high up in Motorola announced they were working with Google to create a straight-to-consumer phone. I assume this will be the Nexus Two. I'll look for links to it and reply with them.
A quick Google search for "Motorola straight to consumer phone" and you come up with exactly what I was talking about. First link here:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/motorola_developing_straighttoconsumer_google_phone
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
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Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
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watch for screen burn-in
that's all.
I have a nexus one, but I recommend that you buy a htc incredible
or wait until the htc incredible evo
Got my N1 since Jan and still lovin it to this day. Only thing I think you'd miss from the switch is the screen size of the HD2. Incredible probably would have a closer feel to the HD2 since it runs sense ui (stock). But you can also have sense on a rooted N1 and a lot more tweaks.
The Nexus is sexier than the Incredible, will get updates sooner than any android phones atm and has more dev support if you decide to root. Only reason why I would probably get the Incredible is coz of the carrier (Verizon) and not the device.
i just talked the girl i've been hanging out with into getting the incredible, but only because she wanted to stay with verizon. i've played with it. i prefer the nexus, personally. i think the nexus one looks better, and it definitely has better dev support, if you wanted to tweak it (unlock the bootloader and root it, then put on custom ROMs).
however, if i was going to be with verizon, i'd take the incredible, for sure.
only thing i don't like about the N1 is the crap coverage i get, but that's a network issue with TMO, not any fault of the phone.
Well i think he has t-mobile since he has the htc hd2 well i switched over just about a week ago from the htc hd2 to the nexus the htc hd2 lags and to slow its beautiful in looks but thats about it.. Once u use it its horrible the nexus one does both it looks AMAZING and it's supER fastt.. Once hacked EVEN FASTER.. and froyo 2.2 is just amazingly fast mine is rooted and stuff already because ive used android before ive had it since the g1 android so yeahh but you should def do the switch =]
Yeah... Froyo with JIT and Flash, although its a work in progress. I couldn't ask for more, perfect phone for me at least.
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Well i think he has t-mobile since he has the htc hd2 well i switched over just about a week ago from the htc hd2 to the nexus the htc hd2 lags and to slow its beautiful in looks but thats about it.. Once u use it its horrible the nexus one does both it looks AMAZING and it's supER fastt.. Once hacked EVEN FASTER.. and froyo 2.2 is just amazingly fast mine is rooted and stuff already because ive used android before ive had it since the g1 android so yeahh but you should def do the switch =]
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If you hold the phone at the bottom, the signal strength drops dramatically.
The multitouch sensor flips axes when your fingers get close. No problems for pinch/zoom but bad for games that rely on multitouch. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuB0VvkmwA
It's difficult to see the screen in bright daylight unless screen brightness is all the way up.
The soft buttons are difficult to hit until you get used to them (the touch points are higher than the labels).
I think that's all of the issues...
If any of these would be huge problems for you, get an Incredible or an EVO 4G. However, the N1 has the strongest developer/hacking following currently, and is sure to get any updates from Google first and long before any other phone (as has been the case with Android "FroYo" 2.2.) And of course, the look is personal preference; I think the N1 looks the best of any current Android phone with the Incredible/Evo being very plain and lacking style.
Anyway, Nexus One, Incredible, Evo 4G: the absolute best three Android phones across all four carriers in the US. You absolutely can't go wrong.
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[Edit]: Just saw you said N1 or Desire, so you must be in Europe.
In which case,
A) N1 trumps the Desire. Paul OBrien said it best:
http://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/14976167156
@ScootAUFC It's superior by the nature of its unlocked state and the fact it gets updates quickest of any Android phone...
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B) Please search next time! There have been dozens of N1 vs Desire topics in the past week alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779
Cpt.Curry said:
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
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Get the EVO 4G instead unless you're outside the US, in which case get the Incredible.
No reason to buy the N1 now that it is no longer the top Android phone. With the EVO 4G you aren't losing anything, and only gaining.
EDIT: After reading a couple of the other posts, maybe the N1 would work out better due to faster updates and unlocked nature of phone at ship.
No I dont have the T-mobile hd2 I have the normal one the T8585, and I live in Australia so incredible is out the question. Or else I would've seriously thought of it, it definitely looks incredible I mean 8.1mp and 4.3 inch screen damn thats good.
nexus5894 said:
watch for screen burn-in
that's all.
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Is screen burn-in really an issue?
Paul22000 said:
If you hold the phone at the bottom, the signal strength drops dramatically.
The multitouch sensor flips axes when your fingers get close. No problems for pinch/zoom but bad for games that rely on multitouch. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuB0VvkmwA
It's difficult to see the screen in bright daylight unless screen brightness is all the way up.
The soft buttons are difficult to hit until you get used to them (the touch points are higher than the labels).
I think that's all of the issues...
If any of these would be huge problems for you, get an Incredible or an EVO 4G. However, the N1 has the strongest developer/hacking following currently, and is sure to get any updates from Google first and long before any other phone (as has been the case with Android "FroYo" 2.2.) And of course, the look is personal preference; I think the N1 looks the best of any current Android phone with the Incredible/Evo being very plain and lacking style.
Anyway, Nexus One, Incredible, Evo 4G: the absolute best three Android phones across all four carriers in the US. You absolutely can't go wrong.
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[Edit]: Just saw you said N1 or Desire, so you must be in Europe.
In which case,
A) N1 trumps the Desire. Paul OBrien said it best:
B) Please search next time! There have been dozens of N1 vs Desire topics in the past week alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779
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Thanks a lot for all your input, but the problems thats you've listed are they a day to day issue for n1 customers. I mean would you be annoyed by it everyday. Does the desire have similar issues. I probably don't know where to get the incredible from and it would also probably be way over my price range.
Thanks a lot
I've been toying with the idea of buying a Nexus One for some time now, I'm no stranger to Android, having owned a Droid 2, Droid Incredible, and now a Samsung Captivate that I use with work. I currently also have an iPhone 4 as my personal phone, and I was just given an HTC Surround and Samsung Focus to replace the Captivate with, so I have to decide which I like more. I love Android, I've always been more drawn to it than my iOS devices, although I do love my iPhone. Now that the Nexus One has been out for a year and has its "successor" (depending on who you ask), is it a good buy still? I'm tired of waiting for AT&T to come out with something new that's a real killer phone, I've been hearing whispers of the HTC Desire HD being in testing, and the Moto Olympus being announced at CES. I'd get a Nexus S if I had T-Mobile and it had a microSD slot, but other than a larger screen and NFC capability, I don't see any real upgrade the S brings. What does everyone think, if I get this Nexus One is it a great buy and I'll enjoy it for awhile, or should I save my money and just wait longer?
PS, I know I own too many phones I can't help it! 3 phone lines will do that to ya
I barely got my nexus one so I would give you my own personal feedback.
Cons:
1.battery is some what horrible under medium to heavy use you can always tweak the phone to make last longer but sometimes is a pain in the butt.
2. 512mb of storage is a step back having to always watch what you installed, once again you can tweak it and make it less of an issue.
3. touch screen feedback is not the best like other phones that are out there. also having some multitouch issues on all models but I hardly notice the issue.
4. My personal issue not having a call and end keys is a pain but that just me been picky.
5. another personal opinion camera its not the greatest in my opinion.
Pros:
1. I got the phone for 295 under no contract that's a awesome deal I think.
2. will get gingerbread soon.
3. Having stock android makes things so much better I could of bought many android phones but the lack of updates made think twice of spending 300 plus.
4 this is a big one for me having to tether and having hotspot internet without rooting makes me so happy.
5. Adobe flash I love having flash for the same reason I didn't buy the nokia n8.
I know for a fact next year will be a big year for android if you wanna wait.
I have my nexus a year now, bought it when it just came out. I can agree with josemedina1983. Nexus is mine longest phone because it never got bored, there is always something new to find out, and google bringing the always the new android version makes the N1 up to date. All the new HTC phones are almost like the Nexus, some have more space to install apps on but that's it.
The only thing that bothers me a bit is the touch screen, it works great with apps but soon as you want to play games that require multi touch it's a nightmare.
I like mine N1 it has a great design works great love the trackball (miss it on new models) the dock station is great. i think i wil keep using mine N1 till something really great comes (didn't find a phone to replace it). I don't like the looks of the Nexus s it really feels cheap.
I think N1 is still a good it has it's flaws specially if you want to play games on it.
I've had my N1 for a few months, here's my take:
OS: Froyo with eventual Gingerbread
- Huge community support on the current OS with 'in-view' plans for OTA update to latest OS.
- Lots and lots of ROMs for this puppy, you can hack this baby four ways from Friday.
- Rumors that Gingerbread on latest Nexus S still a little green - will hopefully be ripe when it gets to N1
Phone cons:
- POS multitouch support (doesn't mean it's not responsive to single thumb touch).
- only 512MB of internal memory (but you can root and get Apps2SD to make up for that) [on a side note, isn't 16GB of internal memory on the Nexus S enough!?!]
- Bad design on the power button, will most likely fail after a few months if the design hasn't been fixed (see link in my signature)
- No Gyroscope - but it's not like you don't have other phones to play games on
- No NFC - but how soon are people going to start using that anways?
Phone Pros:
- Been around for a while, huge support community (XDA FTW!).
- Lots of hacks and tweaks for the phone as well.
- Anything wrong with the phone has already been discovered.
- Lots of developers have it, but you don't see it out in the wild that much (unique 'special' factor).
- Still a high end processor for the next few months until the Tegra 2s come out.
- Probably get it cheaper now that the Nexus S is out.
If you can get it cheap without a contract then sure its still a good phone.
But I would not pay full price for it or go on a contract in order to get it at this point.
Its not a bad phone at all but the phone market moves soooo fast its blinding.
I'll be keeping mine another year and then getting whatever is newest once my contract is up.
All really good advice, I feel like I'm still getting a phone that's relevant in today's market, but at the same time I know that something else is going to come soon and just put it to shame. I would like to know what's wrong with the N1's multitouch, is it just unresponsive or does it really not work? It's taken me quite some time to track down one that's sub $500 with the AT&T 3G bands, so I'm weighing the options very carefully here. After playing around with the Nexus S for some time a few days ago, I personally didn't find anything on Gingerbread that really stood out to me from Froyo, and I have it running on my Incredible now. It would be really nice to get something that was completely free of any carrier or manufactor influence as far as updates go, and easily hacking other roms onto this thing seems to be really easy. The power button issue I've heard about from other people, but some say it's not too hard to fix, so that isn't too bad for me. Decisions, decisions.
Just get the S
If you own another android phone and still using it i dont see the point of buying another one especially having the incredible its a damn good phone I think the incredible,evo,nexus,hd2,droid x,g2 are the classic android phones of 2010. I would wait alittle bit and stack up those 300 for the next phone. I feel next year windows 7 nokias meego and android tablets i love having alot of OS options.
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I have had my Nexus One 6 months and think it is a great phone. IMO one of the best looking phones made. I also have a Desire as my main phone and have used the Nexus to learn about rooting and custom roms. Its copped a hammering from experimenting but it has always come back to life. Google is defiantly your friend here LOL. If you have the spare $ and not to concerned with whats around the corner with the next gen Android its a good buy. But maybe that its 12 months since release a more current phone may be better. Try Nexus S. When it arrives in Australia I surely will get one. Good luck with your decision.
Steve.
It's a good phone, but I wouldn't buy it now after a year it came out, unless you get it really cheap. With CES happening right now, you should definitely wait and see.
If I need to recommend a phone I would still recommend the N1 provided its cheaper than the NS
Definitely a phone worth getting, more ROMS then you'll ever know what to do with. I've been back and forth between MIUI, cyanogen and enomthers ROMS and have never been.disappointed. battery life is amazing with these ROMS. My nexus at 1.113 Ghz outperformed my friends droid X at 1.465 Ghz and his rooted Evo
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I've also had gingerbread for about two weeks already and loving it
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All really good advice, I feel like I'm still getting a phone that's relevant in today's market, but at the same time I know that something else is going to come soon and just put it to shame. I would like to know what's wrong with the N1's multitouch, is it just unresponsive or does it really not work? It's taken me quite some time to track down one that's sub $500 with the AT&T 3G bands, so I'm weighing the options very carefully here. After playing around with the Nexus S for some time a few days ago, I personally didn't find anything on Gingerbread that really stood out to me from Froyo, and I have it running on my Incredible now. It would be really nice to get something that was completely free of any carrier or manufactor influence as far as updates go, and easily hacking other roms onto this thing seems to be really easy. The power button issue I've heard about from other people, but some say it's not too hard to fix, so that isn't too bad for me. Decisions, decisions.
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Its not the best but the biggest problem I have is axis flipping and the snapping to match the axis of the other finger (Don't know what that's called officially). It's not the best video and neither of these problems really bother me in day to day use. I vote it's a great phone to own and will be for a few years yet. As for the power button i've had mine since last march and still no issues.
I still think you should wait the nexus one AT&T version are pretty rare and they still go for around 50 + bucks, more than the t-mo version.
Comes this february then I officially own a phone that lasts for a year. Lol I used to change phones a lot. I just tried to find the perfect one for me. pam there it is
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Amazon.com deal on N1 too good to be true?
Been a long time follower of this forum but only just registered.
Looking to buy a Nexus one. It's going at $298 on Amazon from one of their eSellers. It is listed as new but most of the feedback on this seller refers to refurbished products - and sometimes when the buyer was expecting a new one. So I am really sceptical though it is very tempting to be able to get the phone for <$300.
Anyone here Ble to advise? Any better ideas on where I could look?
There are a lot of killer phones out there but....I like having one of the only phones that has Gingerbread without rooting (2.3.4). Exclusivity; I haven't seen one in the wild. Hotspot and tehering without rooting. Vanilla Android. While the touchscreen is buggy at times, I love my N1. I have had it for a year and never regretted my purchase. This is one of the phones that will be remembered for quite sometime IMO. A classic, as it were.