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I've been out of the phone market for a bit, making due with a cooked Windows Mobile 6.5 on T-Mobile because of not being able to sync my corp email on Android.
Got an email today and seen the new myTouch 3G Slide. I had a Sidekick 3 a few years ago and love QWERTY keyboards on phones. I have an iPod Touch and not sure if I could use a virtual keyboard with all the texting/emailing/ircing I do from my phone (I work in IT). Just from the picture, I immediately thought this would be my next phone.
After further research, it looks like the myTouch 3G Slide is geared for consumers/family while I would consider myself a power user. Compared to the Nexus One, it has a scaled down CPU (600mhz) and has the Expresso UI, which I think I would rather just have a stock Android. But it does have a QWERTY keyboard!
I started looking at the Nexus One. Faster processor, stock Android but no QWERTY keyboard.
I'm trying to decide which phone is for me. I would like to stay with T-Mobile. I tried Verizon for a day, bill was $40 more per month and they had IRC ports blocked. I want to be able to multitask and IRC/AIM from my phone, with IRC constantly connected in the background.
Also, I do not live in a T-Mobile 3G area. I would be on the Edge network and not sure how either of these newer phones would perform.
After some time, I could probably reload the Slide without the custom UI, but I'll be stuck with a 600mhz processor and that bothers me.
With the Nexus, I would have a better performing phone but no QWERTY. The QWERTY might be the deal breaker but I'm not 100% sure.
Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks!
The Nexus One is the first phone I've owned without a hardware qwerty keyboard and I thought it was going to a really tough transition. Then I got the swype beta. I still prefer hardware keyboards, but I wouldn't trade my Nexus for anything else on the market right now.
Having used the MyTouch3G and now using the Nexus One, I'd have to say N1. Especially if you're an IT guy and wish to do multitasking and moreover wish to multitask without facepalming every 5 minutes. There is NO comparison in speed between the MT3G and the Nexus One. The N1 is snappy every minute of the day no matter what I throw at it. The MT3G can still do all the same things, but honestly, it's slowwwwwwww... Go Nexus One and get yourself Swype. You'll never need another hardware keyboard again.
Don't disappoint yourself!
Edit: Unlock your bootloader and load whatever UI or custom ROM you'd like on your N1
Jim
You must be kidding?
Smaller screen
Lower resolution
Slow processor
Weird custom UI
Low developer support
Most likely locked to T-Mobile
And a bit ugly
You can get used to using an on-screen keyboard. And there's more than a half-dozen of them to choose from.
You can't get used to small, slow, outdated, crappy hardware.
If you REALLY want a physical keyboard, at least the Nexus One is unlocked and has extremely high resellability. So when a Snapdragon-wielding physical keyboard phone arrives, you can make the swap easily.
There's just no contest here.
At least wait for the LG Ally to get released before you make any decisions.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/t-mobile-mytouch-3g-slide-official-android-2-1-qwerty-coming/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/lg-confirms-android-powered-ally-coming-may-20th/
Here's my two cents.
A smartphone without 3G BLOWS...you won't enjoy the full capability of the device.
If I were you... I'd go with Sprint. Chances are they have 3G in your area. The Evo 4G is the device you want. If you're really a power user, you'll want to shoot yourself if you have a slower device than you need to... and I'll be honest. I had a G1 prior to the N1. I was weary of not having a hardware keyboard, but typing on a large screen makes it much easier... the Evo will probably be even easier.
uansari1 said:
It's like having sex while wearing a condom and being buzzed...
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LoL haven't seen that line linked to a phone before
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LoL haven't seen that line linked to a phone before
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I know exactly how that feels so I can relate!
So with that being said, I think it's time for me to get off T-Mobile since they do not have 3G in my area. I liked T-Mobile because they are an underdog and I have a grandfathered unlimited Internet package for only $20/month. Sprint and Verizon do have 3G in my area. This has been a non-issue with my old phone since I mainly used it as a texting/email device.
While looking at the new T-Mobile phones, the HD2 really caught my eye. Large screen and it just looked good. I did not like the idea of still using Windows Mobile 6.5.
I looked into uansari1's suggestion at the Sprint EVO 4G. This is the phone I am going to get! The EVO 4G has the same hardware as the HD2 and the latest Android build! It's time for me to stop worrying about the qwerty keyboard and move on.
I am not under contract with T-Mobile so I'll be visiting Sprint soon and hopefully get a pre-order.
IgpI say go with the LG Ally. I can't exactly find how fast the professor is, but it is official that it will feature Live Wallpapers - so it can't be that bad. It runs Eclair (Android 2.1) and has a slide out QWERTY keyboard as you want. Oh wait, though, its coming to Verizon.. and you said you just switched from that.
Well, in that case definitely go with the Nexus.
Bigger screen than the Slide, faster processor, it is Google's phone, the developer support is high, it is easy to root - and I can type as fast as I could on my G1 with the HTC_IME keyboard (the keyboard that HTC Sense features, that can be installed on the Nexus). Really this was one of those duh questions, unless you really need a QWERTY keyboard, the choice is simply too obvious.
Though, if you like Espresso (the custom version of Sense that the Slide possess), you could easily root your device and install an HTC Desire ROM. It's not exactly like Espresso, it may be better, or equal to, to some.
Oh your going with the Evo, that's good. T-Mobile can't be an underdog, I wouldn't think an underdog would be the fourth largest carrier in the US. That's not first, second, or third, but fourth is not entirely horrible.
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IgpI say go with the LG Ally. I can't exactly find how fast the professor is, but it is official that it will feature Live Wallpapers - so it can't be that bad. It runs Eclair (Android 2.1) and has a slide out QWERTY keyboard as you want. Oh wait, though, its coming to Verizon.. and you said you just switched from that.
Well, in that case definitely go with the Nexus.
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I think the biggest issue for the OP is the lack of 3G, which will limit his ability to enjoy his phone. If the N1 still goes to Sprint, he'll have that option as well if he goes with that carrier.
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I'd feel very frustrated... like going to a strip club and not being able to tap the dancer.
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Man, you weren't kidding about being able to come up with the sex analogies!
You got any more analogies you could come up to describe a non 3g experience? I love em'
did you seriously ask this...N1 all the way. Mytouch slide looks like trash
I'd feel very frustrated... like going to a strip club and not being able to tap the dancer.
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Man, you weren't kidding about being able to come up with the sex analogies!
You got any more analogies you could come up to describe a non 3g experience? I love em'
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It's a gift. ;-)
I'm sure you'll see more from me eventually about stuff other than 3G as well.
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audiofx said:
I've been out of the phone market for a bit, making due with a cooked Windows Mobile 6.5 on T-Mobile because of not being able to sync my corp email on Android.
Got an email today and seen the new myTouch 3G Slide. I had a Sidekick 3 a few years ago and love QWERTY keyboards on phones. I have an iPod Touch and not sure if I could use a virtual keyboard with all the texting/emailing/ircing I do from my phone (I work in IT). Just from the picture, I immediately thought this would be my next phone.
After further research, it looks like the myTouch 3G Slide is geared for consumers/family while I would consider myself a power user. Compared to the Nexus One, it has a scaled down CPU (600mhz) and has the Expresso UI, which I think I would rather just have a stock Android. But it does have a QWERTY keyboard!
I started looking at the Nexus One. Faster processor, stock Android but no QWERTY keyboard.
I'm trying to decide which phone is for me. I would like to stay with T-Mobile. I tried Verizon for a day, bill was $40 more per month and they had IRC ports blocked. I want to be able to multitask and IRC/AIM from my phone, with IRC constantly connected in the background.
Also, I do not live in a T-Mobile 3G area. I would be on the Edge network and not sure how either of these newer phones would perform.
After some time, I could probably reload the Slide without the custom UI, but I'll be stuck with a 600mhz processor and that bothers me.
With the Nexus, I would have a better performing phone but no QWERTY. The QWERTY might be the deal breaker but I'm not 100% sure.
Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks!
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would att have 3g coverage ? the nexus one is available with att service. not that I'm promoting att... oh god.
if you love hardware keyboards, you'll miss it on the nexus one. i have.
i haven't personally seen the slide, so i can't comment on it's cpu speed... but if it's similar to the g1, i don't see it being a problem.
can't answer your exchange question either, i never touch the stuff.
I work at Tmo and have gotten to play with the Slide. I also own an N1 which between the 2 I prefer my nexus. I love the larger screen, longer battery life, and faster processor. the slide is a good phone and better than any android selection you can find at a Tmo store at the moment. The ui on the slide us very smooth and very impressive because the processor is not that much faster than a lot of the androids Tmo currently has.
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Here's my two cents.
A smartphone without 3G BLOWS. It's like having sex while wearing a condom and being buzzed... you won't enjoy the full capability of the device.
If I were you... I'd go with Sprint. Chances are they have 3G in your area. The Evo 4G is the device you want. If you're really a power user, you'll want to shoot yourself if you have a slower device than you need to... and I'll be honest. I had a G1 prior to the N1. I was weary of not having a hardware keyboard, but typing on a large screen makes it much easier... the Evo will probably be even easier.
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Nice analogy! lol I do have to agree... I have to use wifi where I live, but I work in a 3g/HSPA/HSPA+ market... at home I feel like what I assume a junkie feels when they are in rehab and are forced to use smaller amounts of juice! I think the HSPA runs as fast as wifi and the plus is like ungodly faster than sprints "4G"... Nexus is HSPA and under, but no confirmation on H/H+
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I work at Tmo and have gotten to play with the Slide. I also own an N1 which between the 2 I prefer my nexus. I love the larger screen, longer battery life, and faster processor. the slide is a good phone and better than any android selection you can find at a Tmo store at the moment. The ui on the slide us very smooth and very impressive because the processor is not that much faster than a lot of the androids Tmo currently has.
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I find it very upsetting that my faster N1 has twice the battery life of my slide...
veldargk said:
Having used the MyTouch3G and now using the Nexus One, I'd have to say N1. Especially if you're an IT guy and wish to do multitasking and moreover wish to multitask without facepalming every 5 minutes. There is NO comparison in speed between the MT3G and the Nexus One. The N1 is snappy every minute of the day no matter what I throw at it. The MT3G can still do all the same things, but honestly, it's slowwwwwwww... Go Nexus One and get yourself Swype. You'll never need another hardware keyboard again.
Don't disappoint yourself!
Edit: Unlock your bootloader and load whatever UI or custom ROM you'd like on your N1
Jim
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AGREED!!!!
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Man, you weren't kidding about being able to come up with the sex analogies!
You got any more analogies you could come up to describe a non 3g experience? I love em'
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How about... It's like masturbating without thumbs. Sure it still feels good but it just doesn't get the job done.
I am also trying to decide on the N1 or the MT3GS. Leaning toward the N1
I am sorry if this has been covered in other posts, but I currently have the HD2. I love it except for the fact that it lags and I basically have to reset it once or twice every day because it freezes on me. I am thinking about getting an N1, and would like to know if there is anyone else that has gone from an HD2 to the N1 and what their feelings are on it. I had the G1 when it first came out, but since they didn't have 3G in my area for almost a year after it came out, I got rid of it. Plus it didn't have a lot of things I really wanted like saving MMS and the like. However, now it does. Anyway, any feedback would be appreciated.
n1
The HD2 is really beautiful hardware I gotta admit but it's downfall is the software, IMHO.
I say the N1 easily, especially with the rumored 2.2 update coming up in the horizon. Beautiful hardware combined with awesome software, I can't imagine going back to WinMo after spending a few months with Android.
It also might be better to jump on a new N1 now since Google might be pulling the plug on their web sales and going carrier only.
went from nexus to hd2......back to nexus
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679111
I had the HD2 and liked it, but after I tried N1 there is no looking back. I love the speed and the OS with the Market is unbeatable. No regrets.
I'm a former HD2 user, now converted to the Nexus One. My story is a ittle different than the other posters. I actually loved everything about the HD2, and was hardpressed to trade it when it came time to. It is truly a pocket computer, and which gives you the ability to tweak it to death as long as you have access to the registry and custom roms installed. I actually found myself turning Sense off at times becomes I didnt need to glitter all the time. Task Manager is your best friend too. I only got rid of it because I got bored with it after a while.
That said, Android is the **** for its own reasons as well. You have the ability to mod it to you liking, you get a more polished OS overall and access to thousands of useful apps without paying a hefty price, or paying at all.
to each his own.
As I said in another thread, I am probably going to sell my Desire and get an N1.
But I am wary of buying a 6 month old phone - especially with the rate android is moving forward at.
My question is - will the N1 be surpasses anytime soon with another google phone?
I know there are other phones out their with better specs (eg EVO) but I am talking about a real google phone, like the N1, which gets updates straight from google without anyone in between getting in the way.
It's probably a stupid question asking seeing as no one knows what companies are planning, but I guess I'm just looking for someone to convince me to take the plunge!
my guess is that the nexus one wil lbe the flagship phone, google's phone, for a full year. so look until january before a replacement comes along. even though the incredible and evo are here, the nexus one remains the developer phone. and i dont think that is going to change until january. just my opinion.
there is no doubt that eventually the N1 will be surpassed. I love my Nexus One, but one of the MAIN reasons I got the N1 was because I was gambling that Google would treat it like its own personal baby. Favoriting it, giving updates sooner then the rest of the phones, and hopefulness that because it was their baby they would suite Android to work around the Nexus One, ie. If 2.2 did not work on the Nexus One, they would have MADE it until it worked on the Nexus One.
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there is no doubt that eventually the N1 will be surpassed.
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+1.
To OP:
You're not buying a computer that "will not be surpassed", right? Because you know that new technology is out on a monthly basis.
So why do you expect anything different in a smartphone that is essentially nothing else but a mini computer?
Yes, in a year or maybe even 1/2 year you'll no longer be on par with the top dogs, and in 3 years your phone might probably be scrapped. So? That's how things work.. They develop.
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+1.
To OP:
You're not buying a computer that "will not be surpassed", right? Because you know that new technology is out on a monthly basis.
So why do you expect anything different in a smartphone that is essentially nothing else but a mini computer?
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Thanks for the replies guys.
Well as all I am looking for is a phone direct from google, then it is quite reasonable to expect it not to be surpassed each month.
I don't really care if a better android phone comes out, I will only have buyers remorse if a Nexus Two came out soon, but I suppose when that happens is anyones guess.
The guesses that are currently out say that there's no other Google phone planned for this year (at least), so if you want to buy Nexus because you want Google's Android Development Phone platform - you can count of trouble-free 1/2-year.
(but at the end of the year 1.3GHz phones might appear, and the next year can bring dual cores... So if you want to stay in the top pack, I guess 1 year is the phone's lifespan).
Am I the only one that isn't completely wowed by the Evo?
The front facing camera is nice, but there isn't a lot of software support and I can't see myself using it much. My laptop has a web cam built in, and I don't know if I have ever used it. None of the people I would be talking to would have a camera on their phone anyway.
The screen is nice and big, but the resolution is still the standard 800x480 so it's not displaying any more on screen than the N1, Desire, Incredible. Plus processor isn't any better. 4G is great, but availability is obviously limited.
I just don't think it's the huge improvement over the Desire and Incredible that everyone seems to believe. Plus the more I use Sense UI, the less I like it.
The way I see it is you need to look at 2 things in regards to these types of phones... the hardware... and the availability of updates to the software...
Hardware wise, The Nexus is completely sufficient. 1ghz processor, 512mb of RAM, a great camera, a nice AMOLED screen, and a very durable build quality...
Software wise, it's vanilla Android and is first in line for updates from google... All the competing phones have that (sense, blur) crap built-in that severely hinders the release process of updates ... they will ALWAYS get updates later than any phones with vanilla Android...
If you get an EVO or an Incredible or whatever else comes out in a few months... you will gain a few minor things as far as hardware spec differences, unless u want an over sized bulging screen in your pocket. The camera? Who cares it's a friggin' phone... 5mp is PLENTY. You already have to optimize even 5mp as a standard to even send as MMS. Anything over 1ghz is pretty much overkill for android in its current phase... it's a phone... it runs fast as hell it doesn't need a dual-core processor geeze.
I dunno... I really think the nexus is still the best bet people who want a touch-based phone and always want to be on the bleeding edge of android os developments.
Have to say, you have a Desire, which is essentially the Nexus One with a different skin, why look at the Nexus? I get your main point, the N1 already has Froyo, everyone else is waiting, but Froyo is being ported to the Desire as we speak. If you know a bit about modding and don't mind being a month or two behind, save some money and let the devs cook up a Froyo rom, and be assured that whatever comes out for the N1 will make it to the Desire. Hell, if the Dream and Magic can handle Eclair, anything is possible.
Side note, I have an N1 and installed Froyo, really liked it but went back to Cyanogen's 5.0.7. Many other N1 users have done the same. Once you get used to a custom rom, its hard to do without many of the bells and whistles you're used to, so I don't mind sitting and waiting for a customized Froyo.
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Have to say, you have a Desire, which is essentially the Nexus One with a different skin, why look at the Nexus? I get your main point, the N1 already has Froyo, everyone else is waiting, but Froyo is being ported to the Desire as we speak. If you know a bit about modding and don't mind being a month or two behind, save some money and let the devs cook up a Froyo rom, and be assured that whatever comes out for the N1 will make it to the Desire. Hell, if the Dream and Magic can handle Eclair, anything is possible.
Side note, I have an N1 and installed Froyo, really liked it but went back to Cyanogen's 5.0.7. Many other N1 users have done the same. Once you get used to a custom rom, its hard to do without many of the bells and whistles you're used to, so I don't mind sitting and waiting for a customized Froyo.
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A few reasons really:
1. I now really dislike sense.
2. HTC have gone to unnecessary lengths to prevent root access. We don't have a full root yet and we may never have it. Also they're are over 60 people who have bricked their desire and the cause is not known, this is slowing development.
3. I don't want it to end up like the hero, that was their last flagship device and its still on 1.6 for most people.
4. Fast updates - always good.
I'd just like to have vanilla android without having to risk bricking my phone really.
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A few reasons really:
1. I now really dislike sense.
2. HTC have gone to unnecessary lengths to prevent root access. We don't have a full root yet and we may never have it. Also they're are over 60 people who have bricked their desire and the cause is not known, this is slowing development.
3. I don't want it to end up like the hero, that was their last flagship device and its still on 1.6 for most people.
4. Fast updates - always good.
I'd just like to have vanilla android without having to risk bricking my phone really.
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i've used Sense so much and i totally hate it as well. i'm so much happier with my nexus vanilla android experience. i do get why some people like sense, but for me personally, i dont like it.
In my opinion, the closest phone to 'overtake' the N1 will be the Samsung Galaxy S. The triangles that thing can push out is supposed to be very impressive. Other phones, to me, come down to preference (Evo for screen size and network, Desire for Sense). The N1 will probably be the first phone to get Gingerbread and even the update after that at least.
We'll see 1ghz phones become more common before a bump in processor speed happens, I feel. The N1's a nice phone and worth the money.
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Am I the only one that isn't completely wowed by the Evo?
The front facing camera is nice, but there isn't a lot of software support and I can't see myself using it much. My laptop has a web cam built in, and I don't know if I have ever used it. None of the people I would be talking to would have a camera on their phone anyway.
The screen is nice and big, but the resolution is still the standard 800x480 so it's not displaying any more on screen than the N1, Desire, Incredible. Plus processor isn't any better. 4G is great, but availability is obviously limited.
I just don't think it's the huge improvement over the Desire and Incredible that everyone seems to believe. Plus the more I use Sense UI, the less I like it.
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you are not alone. the EVO just doesnt wow me either. when 1.5gHz phones come out, then maybe i'll ditch the nexus. but the current hardware (evo and incredible) are so similar to the nexus, they are all cousins and in the same league. nexus gets the newest updates and has best build quality, so some would say its actually the better of the 3.
If you haven't bought one by now, I would hold off. Expect HTC leaks to start up again for their new lineup for next year.
It also depends on how you plan to use the phone.
I am not too worried about cpu muscle. Everything I do on the N1 happens pretty much instantly. That a more potent cpu might load something faster as can be measured by testing equipment doesnt matter to me. Now if those new dual cores bring optimizations to improve battery life that might catch my eye but brute stength, nah. I really dont see what the evo or incredible bring to the table for me outside of the larger screen on the evo. Even there I recently handled an X10 and to my mind that is about the perfect screen size, I find the evo just a wee bit clunky in the hand. To be honest there is no announced handset in the works that even slightly peaks my interest. I'm guessing there will be nothing that catches my eye until the hollidays at the earliest. Personally I was hoping that the N2 (following in the fully unlocked steps of the N1) might be seeing the light of day around then.
edit.... I'm basing my feelings on the size of the evo on handling the HD2, I have not had an evo in hand.
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I am not too worried about cpu muscle. Everything I do on the N1 happens pretty much instantly. That a more potent cpu might load something faster as can be measured by testing equipment doesnt matter to me. Now if those new dual cores bring optimizations to improve battery life that might catch my eye but brute stength, nah. I really dont see what the evo or incredible bring to the table for me outside of the larger screen on the evo. Even there I recently handled an X10 and to my mind that is about the perfect screen size, I find the evo just a wee bit clunky in the hand. To be honest there is no announced handset in the works that even slightly peaks my interest. I'm guessing there will be nothing that catches my eye until the hollidays at the earliest. Personally I was hoping that the N2 (following in the fully unlocked steps of the N1) might be seeing the light of day around then.
edit.... I'm basing my feelings on the size of the evo on handling the HD2, I have not had an evo in hand.
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I agree, some people are too obsessed with benchmarks imo. The phone does everything you want pretty much instantly, and there's not many processor intensive apps for android anyway.
evo is great except:
1) sprint only
2) contract only
What would make it better than the nexus:
1) simple way to root.
2) runs standard Cyanogen or AOSP, no proprietary stuff like sense.
3) supports GSM
I waited three years before jumping in, loved android right from when it was announced. The Nexus one pretty much has no challengers for the throne yet. A true open phone.
Take it with a grain of salt, but when I went to a local TMo store to get a SIM for my wife's new N1, I was asking about when they think they might be getting the N1 in (seeing as there's already some 3rd party places selling the N1).
I was told they probably won't be getting a google phone in until the Nexus TWO, sometime in November of THIS year.
My take on it is this; If it's something you want, get it now and enjoy it. There is ALWAYS something better, faster, sleeker and that will cost less coming right around the corner.
If the N1 had a touch screen that wasn't so terrible I'd really want for nothing. Maybe some better battery life..
If you're talking about a straight Google phone unlocked, then yes, one will be out this year. Earlier in the year, someone high up in Motorola announced they were working with Google to create a straight-to-consumer phone. I assume this will be the Nexus Two. I'll look for links to it and reply with them.
A quick Google search for "Motorola straight to consumer phone" and you come up with exactly what I was talking about. First link here:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/motorola_developing_straighttoconsumer_google_phone
I've been toying with the idea of buying a Nexus One for some time now, I'm no stranger to Android, having owned a Droid 2, Droid Incredible, and now a Samsung Captivate that I use with work. I currently also have an iPhone 4 as my personal phone, and I was just given an HTC Surround and Samsung Focus to replace the Captivate with, so I have to decide which I like more. I love Android, I've always been more drawn to it than my iOS devices, although I do love my iPhone. Now that the Nexus One has been out for a year and has its "successor" (depending on who you ask), is it a good buy still? I'm tired of waiting for AT&T to come out with something new that's a real killer phone, I've been hearing whispers of the HTC Desire HD being in testing, and the Moto Olympus being announced at CES. I'd get a Nexus S if I had T-Mobile and it had a microSD slot, but other than a larger screen and NFC capability, I don't see any real upgrade the S brings. What does everyone think, if I get this Nexus One is it a great buy and I'll enjoy it for awhile, or should I save my money and just wait longer?
PS, I know I own too many phones I can't help it! 3 phone lines will do that to ya
I barely got my nexus one so I would give you my own personal feedback.
Cons:
1.battery is some what horrible under medium to heavy use you can always tweak the phone to make last longer but sometimes is a pain in the butt.
2. 512mb of storage is a step back having to always watch what you installed, once again you can tweak it and make it less of an issue.
3. touch screen feedback is not the best like other phones that are out there. also having some multitouch issues on all models but I hardly notice the issue.
4. My personal issue not having a call and end keys is a pain but that just me been picky.
5. another personal opinion camera its not the greatest in my opinion.
Pros:
1. I got the phone for 295 under no contract that's a awesome deal I think.
2. will get gingerbread soon.
3. Having stock android makes things so much better I could of bought many android phones but the lack of updates made think twice of spending 300 plus.
4 this is a big one for me having to tether and having hotspot internet without rooting makes me so happy.
5. Adobe flash I love having flash for the same reason I didn't buy the nokia n8.
I know for a fact next year will be a big year for android if you wanna wait.
I have my nexus a year now, bought it when it just came out. I can agree with josemedina1983. Nexus is mine longest phone because it never got bored, there is always something new to find out, and google bringing the always the new android version makes the N1 up to date. All the new HTC phones are almost like the Nexus, some have more space to install apps on but that's it.
The only thing that bothers me a bit is the touch screen, it works great with apps but soon as you want to play games that require multi touch it's a nightmare.
I like mine N1 it has a great design works great love the trackball (miss it on new models) the dock station is great. i think i wil keep using mine N1 till something really great comes (didn't find a phone to replace it). I don't like the looks of the Nexus s it really feels cheap.
I think N1 is still a good it has it's flaws specially if you want to play games on it.
I've had my N1 for a few months, here's my take:
OS: Froyo with eventual Gingerbread
- Huge community support on the current OS with 'in-view' plans for OTA update to latest OS.
- Lots and lots of ROMs for this puppy, you can hack this baby four ways from Friday.
- Rumors that Gingerbread on latest Nexus S still a little green - will hopefully be ripe when it gets to N1
Phone cons:
- POS multitouch support (doesn't mean it's not responsive to single thumb touch).
- only 512MB of internal memory (but you can root and get Apps2SD to make up for that) [on a side note, isn't 16GB of internal memory on the Nexus S enough!?!]
- Bad design on the power button, will most likely fail after a few months if the design hasn't been fixed (see link in my signature)
- No Gyroscope - but it's not like you don't have other phones to play games on
- No NFC - but how soon are people going to start using that anways?
Phone Pros:
- Been around for a while, huge support community (XDA FTW!).
- Lots of hacks and tweaks for the phone as well.
- Anything wrong with the phone has already been discovered.
- Lots of developers have it, but you don't see it out in the wild that much (unique 'special' factor).
- Still a high end processor for the next few months until the Tegra 2s come out.
- Probably get it cheaper now that the Nexus S is out.
If you can get it cheap without a contract then sure its still a good phone.
But I would not pay full price for it or go on a contract in order to get it at this point.
Its not a bad phone at all but the phone market moves soooo fast its blinding.
I'll be keeping mine another year and then getting whatever is newest once my contract is up.
All really good advice, I feel like I'm still getting a phone that's relevant in today's market, but at the same time I know that something else is going to come soon and just put it to shame. I would like to know what's wrong with the N1's multitouch, is it just unresponsive or does it really not work? It's taken me quite some time to track down one that's sub $500 with the AT&T 3G bands, so I'm weighing the options very carefully here. After playing around with the Nexus S for some time a few days ago, I personally didn't find anything on Gingerbread that really stood out to me from Froyo, and I have it running on my Incredible now. It would be really nice to get something that was completely free of any carrier or manufactor influence as far as updates go, and easily hacking other roms onto this thing seems to be really easy. The power button issue I've heard about from other people, but some say it's not too hard to fix, so that isn't too bad for me. Decisions, decisions.
Just get the S
If you own another android phone and still using it i dont see the point of buying another one especially having the incredible its a damn good phone I think the incredible,evo,nexus,hd2,droid x,g2 are the classic android phones of 2010. I would wait alittle bit and stack up those 300 for the next phone. I feel next year windows 7 nokias meego and android tablets i love having alot of OS options.
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I have had my Nexus One 6 months and think it is a great phone. IMO one of the best looking phones made. I also have a Desire as my main phone and have used the Nexus to learn about rooting and custom roms. Its copped a hammering from experimenting but it has always come back to life. Google is defiantly your friend here LOL. If you have the spare $ and not to concerned with whats around the corner with the next gen Android its a good buy. But maybe that its 12 months since release a more current phone may be better. Try Nexus S. When it arrives in Australia I surely will get one. Good luck with your decision.
Steve.
It's a good phone, but I wouldn't buy it now after a year it came out, unless you get it really cheap. With CES happening right now, you should definitely wait and see.
If I need to recommend a phone I would still recommend the N1 provided its cheaper than the NS
Definitely a phone worth getting, more ROMS then you'll ever know what to do with. I've been back and forth between MIUI, cyanogen and enomthers ROMS and have never been.disappointed. battery life is amazing with these ROMS. My nexus at 1.113 Ghz outperformed my friends droid X at 1.465 Ghz and his rooted Evo
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I've also had gingerbread for about two weeks already and loving it
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All really good advice, I feel like I'm still getting a phone that's relevant in today's market, but at the same time I know that something else is going to come soon and just put it to shame. I would like to know what's wrong with the N1's multitouch, is it just unresponsive or does it really not work? It's taken me quite some time to track down one that's sub $500 with the AT&T 3G bands, so I'm weighing the options very carefully here. After playing around with the Nexus S for some time a few days ago, I personally didn't find anything on Gingerbread that really stood out to me from Froyo, and I have it running on my Incredible now. It would be really nice to get something that was completely free of any carrier or manufactor influence as far as updates go, and easily hacking other roms onto this thing seems to be really easy. The power button issue I've heard about from other people, but some say it's not too hard to fix, so that isn't too bad for me. Decisions, decisions.
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see the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU0R9tdodw8
Its not the best but the biggest problem I have is axis flipping and the snapping to match the axis of the other finger (Don't know what that's called officially). It's not the best video and neither of these problems really bother me in day to day use. I vote it's a great phone to own and will be for a few years yet. As for the power button i've had mine since last march and still no issues.
I still think you should wait the nexus one AT&T version are pretty rare and they still go for around 50 + bucks, more than the t-mo version.
Comes this february then I officially own a phone that lasts for a year. Lol I used to change phones a lot. I just tried to find the perfect one for me. pam there it is
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Amazon.com deal on N1 too good to be true?
Been a long time follower of this forum but only just registered.
Looking to buy a Nexus one. It's going at $298 on Amazon from one of their eSellers. It is listed as new but most of the feedback on this seller refers to refurbished products - and sometimes when the buyer was expecting a new one. So I am really sceptical though it is very tempting to be able to get the phone for <$300.
Anyone here Ble to advise? Any better ideas on where I could look?
There are a lot of killer phones out there but....I like having one of the only phones that has Gingerbread without rooting (2.3.4). Exclusivity; I haven't seen one in the wild. Hotspot and tehering without rooting. Vanilla Android. While the touchscreen is buggy at times, I love my N1. I have had it for a year and never regretted my purchase. This is one of the phones that will be remembered for quite sometime IMO. A classic, as it were.
So I know a lot of you hate any Apple product and I'm with you for the most part, but I'm starting to thing that maybe the iPhone 5 might be a good deal.
I have the Droid X and it's cool and all, but I'm getting tired of having to do soft resets multiple times throughout the day just to keep it at a bearable speed, and the screen not responding to touch and having to cycle the screen on and off to get it to work, and just bugs in general.
I have had the Blackberry Curve :barf:, VZW TP2 (I liked it, except for it being slow), and now DX. I get tired of having to do full SBF reloads every 2 months to keep it speedy and the screen thing is getting to me along with the bugs (like android music player trying to play music half the time when I hook up a 3.5mm cord to it).
I'm looking for a dual core LTE phone that I won't have to crack and hack and load custom roms to get rid of many bugs and expand functionally. I just kind of get tired of it. I used to work in IT, but now I'm a flight instructor full time and have to use a lot of aviation apps for weather, flight plans, etc. I'm hesitant to jump to the iPhone 5, but I just get tired of the lack of support and updates from VZW for the X. I feel that with the iPhone being so prevalent and with such a following that Apple might provide better support since they don't have to keep track of so many platforms like Moto, HTC, Samsung, etc.
Even if they don't have a LTE iPhone 5, I might be ok with that. I am fairly happy with my X overall, but I feel like I have outgrown it.
Any thoughts on the matter? I'm not posting this on the sister site, because I know how hardcore and unwavering some of those kooks are. (Xtra-normal iPhone 4 video comes to mind).
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So I know a lot of you hate any Apple product and I'm with you for the most part, but I'm starting to thing that maybe the iPhone 5 might be a good deal.
I have the Droid X and it's cool and all, but I'm getting tired of having to do soft resets multiple times throughout the day just to keep it at a bearable speed, and the screen not responding to touch and having to cycle the screen on and off to get it to work, and just bugs in general.
I have had the Blackberry Curve :barf:, VZW TP2 (I liked it, except for it being slow), and now DX. I get tired of having to do full SBF reloads every 2 months to keep it speedy and the screen thing is getting to me along with the bugs (like android music player trying to play music half the time when I hook up a 3.5mm cord to it), and the screen thing.
I'm looking for a dual core LTE phone that I won't have to crack and hack and load custom roms to get rid of many bugs and expand functionally. I just kind of get tired of it. I used to work in IT, but now I'm a flight instructor full time and have to use a lot of aviation apps for weather, flight plans, etc. I'm hesitant to jump to the iPhone 5, but I just get tired of the lack of support and updates from VZW for the X. I feel that with the iPhone being so prevalent and with such a following that Apple might provide better support since they don't have to keep track of so many platforms like Moto, HTC, Samsung, etc.
Even if they don't have a LTE iPhone 5, I might be ok with that. I am fairly happy with my X overall, but I feel like I have outgrown it.
Any thoughts on the matter? I'm not posting this on the sister site, because I know how hardcore and unwavering some of those kooks are. (Xtra-normal iPhone 4 video comes to mind).
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If you're past flashing, then I'd say do it. However, don't count on the 5 having LTE. I guarantee you it won't have it. Apple will wait 6 months to a year before they add it. It's too 'new' for Apple to put in their phones. Expect a quasi 5 upgrade around summer (at best) to have 4g.
Having said that, I do agree with you on the updates and support. Plus the app store has a very stringent approval process - so you can expect the apps to be bug free for the most part.
Regardless of all that, I'll stick with my bionic. Very impressed. I haven't even considered tweaking it much because I'm so blown away with it out of the box. I'm a crack flasher (back to my OG Droid) so this is big for me.
Best of luck.
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^^^ Everything he said and more. Apple is not guaranteed to have any 4g, let alone LTE. That and all the work that is currently going into custom ROMs for bionic.
I for one am a big mac fan. Between my wife, 2kids and me, we have 2imacs, 3 macbooks, and a macbook pro. But for smartphones its android for me. Much more customizable. And a user replaceable battery. Just think, if mr. Jobs had not given at&t exclusivity for so long, android may not have gotten off the ground.
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i've never had an iPhone, but i did just move from a Droid X to the Bionic, so i can compare the differences there...
Bionic is noticeably faster than the Droid X when starting apps, moving through menu settings, etc.
i am torn over the loss of hard keys on the Bionic - while i definitely prefer soft keys over hard keys, there are two disadvantages that bug me:
(1) false alarms (i.e., i occasionally hit one of the soft keys by accident which interrupts whatever i'm doing)
(2) can only use the power button to wake up the Bionic (home key also works on Droid X)
4gLTE is ridiculously fast but highly geographically dependent. i live in a full 4g area. typical downloads 1 mile from my house are 20,000 kbps. at my house, i get maybe 1,200 kbps (vs. around 600 kbps in 3g).
Battery life on Bionic is almost as good as Droid X with similar usage/apps in 3g mode. turning 4g on definitely uses more battery, but it is easy to turn on/off.
i like the Bionic screen, no idea what folks are complaining about
as for bugs, the Bionic has a few:
(1) Phone occasionally locks up solid and requires a battery pull to get it going again. this is affectionately referred to as the black (or maybe it's Bionic) screen of death - BSOD. this has happened to me 4 times in two weeks.
(2) the phone appears to have some difficulty holding a 4g signal over extended periods (but this may have more to do with the signal in my area than the phone itself).
but my Droid X has a few bugs too:
(1) phone always turns itself on after power down (started with Gingerbread)
(2) phone reboots itself typically once daily
(3) screen backlight "flickers" when paging through menus (this started with Gingerbread and actually annoys me more than the first two issues)
bottom line, i am very happy with the Bionic, can't see myself going back to the Droid X (even though i still love that phone), but i will definitely pay close attention to the BSOD.
Just thought that I would let you know that you are comming from a droid X.
Switiching over to IOS isn't going to be much of a step forward but rather a step back for you.
I say that because of what you wrote. You said you feel as if you've out grown it.
The BIONIC would be great for you because of that, but switching over to IOS is going to leave you in regret.
"I was wondering the desert and didn't have my Droid, but rather an Iphone 4. I spent those months wishing I had that instead. I felt limited, but as soon as I got my hands on my Droid again, I became whole. I felt like there was nothing I couldn't do."
Those were the words of one of my co-workers. I was a BB user at the time and thought he was nuts.
He was... but I could understand that feeling of power he got when weilding an android phone today.
I'd go bionic also, but only because i'm biased, and wont come off Android.
Having had the phone for 3 days now, i'm definitely impressed. It was worth every bit to trade my Evo3D in and grab a Bionic. Even the interface is nice.
Never had an Iphone, and never really thought about getting one. Few of these guys above have given great points as to why you should get the Bionic
Thanks for all the replies. I REALLY want LTE and live in Phoenix, where they have good coverage. I guess I'll wait till Apple announces the specs and make my decision then. I imagine that worse case scenario, if I get the 5 and don't like it, I can probably sell it on eBay and get a Bionic with the money. I do like how much you can customize android devices though.
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Thanks for all the replies. I REALLY want LTE and live in Phoenix, where they have good coverage. I guess I'll wait till Apple announces the specs and make my decision then. I imagine that worse case scenario, if I get the 5 and don't like it, I can probably sell it on eBay and get a Bionic with the money. I do like how much you can customize android devices though.
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Good idea, but I promise you - no LTE this round.
If I'm wrong (we'll find out Oct. 5th) then I'll eat crow...