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Saying goodbye to G1....

Thanks to this forum and especially Cyanogen, I was able to enjoy my G1 much more than what I would have. As much as I loved my G1, it still frustrated me and was ready for something better....I broke down and got a Motorola Droid. There are a million reviews, so won't bore you with redundant info, but give a quick comparison to my G1 experience.
My G1 was running Cyanogen 4.2.3.1 and I have owned it since last years pre-order.
What I love about the Droid
1. Speed- the phone is FAST...not just running multiple apps, but network speeds put T-Mobile to shame. Downloading and installing apps takes seconds. I can use Google Navigation and run Pandora and text away and the phone runs flawlessly, has yet to freeze or get bogged down.
2. Display - it's gorgeous and with 2.0, the icons and pics look amazing.
3. Android 2.0 - Google backs up all your settings, including bookmarks and apps. I had to exchange my first Droid and when I signed into my Google account on the replacement, all my apps were automatically downloaded and installed, my background changed, and my bookmarks were all there. Doesn't store app data, but still nice. Nice integration with Facebook without being in your face. Lots of neat touches here and there, seems like a much more finished and polished OS. Google Navigation is a great product, look forward to updates.
4. Fit and Finish - compared to the G1, the feel is sooo much better.
5. Battery - so far been great. Haven't put down the phone since Friday and it lasts all day no problem.
What I don't like
1. G1 keyboard way better. More spacious and just easier to use.
2. Sound quality - using Pandora, my G1 was crisp and clear, with the Droid, I get distortion if I turn it up to loud through the 3.5 jack to my car stereo
3. No root - no home screen rotation, wi-fi tethering, etc.

Happy for you. Right now all of us T-Mo guys are jealous of Verizon subscribers.
Unless they can match it, our carrier is going to lose all the enthusiasts they gained when the G1 launched.

Your comparing a phone thats out of its leauge(hero vs droid vs cliq s better)? Anyway thnks for review verizon has bigest network so theres no reason to put down us tmo users.

Yeah I love my g1 but I am wanting a new android phone also. Verizons pricing is way to ridiculous for me. I was tempted to get a sprint hero but it looks like the hero is going to be outdated soon. I kind of like the sprint samsung moment with its 800 mhz processor, so its between this or the behold II unless there is something coming soon that I should wait for?

dashed said:
Yeah I love my g1 but I am wanting a new android phone also. Verizons pricing is way to ridiculous for me. I was tempted to get a sprint hero but it looks like the hero is going to be outdated soon. I kind of like the sprint samsung moment with its 800 mhz processor, so its between this or the behold II unless there is something coming soon that I should wait for?
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wait till beginning-mid 2010 mate for new phone.

Ace42 said:
Your comparing a phone thats out of its leauge(hero vs droid vs cliq s better)? Anyway thnks for review verizon has bigest network so theres no reason to put down us tmo users.
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Haha...not putting anyone down. I didn't even realize I had been with T-Mobile for so long but when I called to cancel my service, she said but you have been with us for 8 years, is there anything we can do. I didn't have the heart to say quit getting crap phones. I shouldn't say crap, but every phone they have or are getting just has at least one major flaw (for me). I have to have a physical keyboard, although honestly with the bigger screen on the Droid, the onscreen keyboard isn't so bad and because I am not completely used to the physical keyboard, been using the onscreen quite a bit.
Verizon is a little pricey, but through work I get a 20% discount, so it actually works out cheaper than T-Mobile. I was paying just at $100 a month with taxes and Verizon is going to be $10-15 cheaper.
I am just happy to finally see so many Android products being released. I was a bit nervous the first few months with my G1 because it just didn't seem to be catching on and the apps were lacking. I think a lot of big comnpanies took a wait and see approach and they are finally producing some quality apps (like Pandora, etc.). Competition is good for us all and I hope the G1 keeps evolving through the guys here that keep making ROMS for it.

just ordered a new ext batt for my g1. i'm keeping it until i see something that is a major hardware upgrade that wont have to be upgraded soon. maybe bt 3.0?

PLanning to replace my hd2 for n1

Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks

Cpt.Curry said:
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
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watch for screen burn-in
that's all.

I have a nexus one, but I recommend that you buy a htc incredible
or wait until the htc incredible evo

Got my N1 since Jan and still lovin it to this day. Only thing I think you'd miss from the switch is the screen size of the HD2. Incredible probably would have a closer feel to the HD2 since it runs sense ui (stock). But you can also have sense on a rooted N1 and a lot more tweaks.
The Nexus is sexier than the Incredible, will get updates sooner than any android phones atm and has more dev support if you decide to root. Only reason why I would probably get the Incredible is coz of the carrier (Verizon) and not the device.

i just talked the girl i've been hanging out with into getting the incredible, but only because she wanted to stay with verizon. i've played with it. i prefer the nexus, personally. i think the nexus one looks better, and it definitely has better dev support, if you wanted to tweak it (unlock the bootloader and root it, then put on custom ROMs).
however, if i was going to be with verizon, i'd take the incredible, for sure.
only thing i don't like about the N1 is the crap coverage i get, but that's a network issue with TMO, not any fault of the phone.

Well i think he has t-mobile since he has the htc hd2 well i switched over just about a week ago from the htc hd2 to the nexus the htc hd2 lags and to slow its beautiful in looks but thats about it.. Once u use it its horrible the nexus one does both it looks AMAZING and it's supER fastt.. Once hacked EVEN FASTER.. and froyo 2.2 is just amazingly fast mine is rooted and stuff already because ive used android before ive had it since the g1 android so yeahh but you should def do the switch =]

Yeah... Froyo with JIT and Flash, although its a work in progress. I couldn't ask for more, perfect phone for me at least.
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Well i think he has t-mobile since he has the htc hd2 well i switched over just about a week ago from the htc hd2 to the nexus the htc hd2 lags and to slow its beautiful in looks but thats about it.. Once u use it its horrible the nexus one does both it looks AMAZING and it's supER fastt.. Once hacked EVEN FASTER.. and froyo 2.2 is just amazingly fast mine is rooted and stuff already because ive used android before ive had it since the g1 android so yeahh but you should def do the switch =]
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If you hold the phone at the bottom, the signal strength drops dramatically.
The multitouch sensor flips axes when your fingers get close. No problems for pinch/zoom but bad for games that rely on multitouch. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuB0VvkmwA
It's difficult to see the screen in bright daylight unless screen brightness is all the way up.
The soft buttons are difficult to hit until you get used to them (the touch points are higher than the labels).
I think that's all of the issues...
If any of these would be huge problems for you, get an Incredible or an EVO 4G. However, the N1 has the strongest developer/hacking following currently, and is sure to get any updates from Google first and long before any other phone (as has been the case with Android "FroYo" 2.2.) And of course, the look is personal preference; I think the N1 looks the best of any current Android phone with the Incredible/Evo being very plain and lacking style.
Anyway, Nexus One, Incredible, Evo 4G: the absolute best three Android phones across all four carriers in the US. You absolutely can't go wrong.
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[Edit]: Just saw you said N1 or Desire, so you must be in Europe.
In which case,
A) N1 trumps the Desire. Paul OBrien said it best:
http://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/14976167156
@ScootAUFC It's superior by the nature of its unlocked state and the fact it gets updates quickest of any Android phone...
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B) Please search next time! There have been dozens of N1 vs Desire topics in the past week alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779

Cpt.Curry said:
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks
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Get the EVO 4G instead unless you're outside the US, in which case get the Incredible.
No reason to buy the N1 now that it is no longer the top Android phone. With the EVO 4G you aren't losing anything, and only gaining.
EDIT: After reading a couple of the other posts, maybe the N1 would work out better due to faster updates and unlocked nature of phone at ship.

No I dont have the T-mobile hd2 I have the normal one the T8585, and I live in Australia so incredible is out the question. Or else I would've seriously thought of it, it definitely looks incredible I mean 8.1mp and 4.3 inch screen damn thats good.

nexus5894 said:
watch for screen burn-in
that's all.
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Is screen burn-in really an issue?

Paul22000 said:
If you hold the phone at the bottom, the signal strength drops dramatically.
The multitouch sensor flips axes when your fingers get close. No problems for pinch/zoom but bad for games that rely on multitouch. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuB0VvkmwA
It's difficult to see the screen in bright daylight unless screen brightness is all the way up.
The soft buttons are difficult to hit until you get used to them (the touch points are higher than the labels).
I think that's all of the issues...
If any of these would be huge problems for you, get an Incredible or an EVO 4G. However, the N1 has the strongest developer/hacking following currently, and is sure to get any updates from Google first and long before any other phone (as has been the case with Android "FroYo" 2.2.) And of course, the look is personal preference; I think the N1 looks the best of any current Android phone with the Incredible/Evo being very plain and lacking style.
Anyway, Nexus One, Incredible, Evo 4G: the absolute best three Android phones across all four carriers in the US. You absolutely can't go wrong.
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[Edit]: Just saw you said N1 or Desire, so you must be in Europe.
In which case,
A) N1 trumps the Desire. Paul OBrien said it best:
B) Please search next time! There have been dozens of N1 vs Desire topics in the past week alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779
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Thanks a lot for all your input, but the problems thats you've listed are they a day to day issue for n1 customers. I mean would you be annoyed by it everyday. Does the desire have similar issues. I probably don't know where to get the incredible from and it would also probably be way over my price range.
Thanks a lot

Nexus One or mytouch slide

okay so I have a g1 right now but I'm going to upgrade and I came down to the nexus or the mytouch slide and I want to pick the right phone because if I make the wrong decision I will have to keep the phone for almost 2 years for my next upgrade. I heard the mytouch looks smooth and the htc sense theme is cool. But the nexus one has a better screen the the mytouch and it can compete with others but its media,contact, and message display is oldschool kind of like the g1 so I'm kind of stuck which one should i get

isnt a mytouch with a slide out keyboard just a G1?

Compared to the nexus one it is
I don't know what actual hardware improvements are on the Slide other than the keyboard
but it can't be too much since they are releasing the Slide's updated sense on the oringinal MT3G
I say go open source, easily unlockable, completley customizable nexus one!

veritasaequita said:
isnt a mytouch with a slide out keyboard just a G1?
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The new mytouch slide has better specs and a slightly bigger screen, but still well below the nexus one.
I'd go with the nexus one, the hardware keyboard isn't worth it.
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veritasaequita said:
isnt a mytouch with a slide out keyboard just a G1?
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Haha, that is almost funny. MT3GS is 10 times the phone of the G1. Either way, this thread should be in General and will get moved or closed very soon. With that said:
I have both, I love both. The N1, hands down, is way better but if you cant stand virtual keyboards, the MT3GS is very nice. Sense is great, the keyboard is layed out very nice and easy to type on. The phone is snappy and responsive, not slow AT ALL! The screen is a little larger then original MT3G/G1 but still a low resolution. They did, however make the OS look very nice on the phone. BUT, if you want to root, hack, modify and play with the phone go for the N1. They will, some day, root the Slide but the N1 will always be the dev's phone of choice. Hope this helps.
P.S. If this is going to be your phone for the next 2 years, I would go for the Nexus, it'll be able to handle whatever they through at it. Eventually the slower processor of the Slide wont be able to keep up.

I think the Nexus is way better. It has a better screen, better processor, more memory and it can run froyo. Also, if you root it, you can run the Sense UI. The only thing the Slide has on it's side is the slide out keyboard. I actually use my nexus to play all the old school snes and gba games and it plays it perfectly.

I own both, and both are awesome! It really comes down to the keyboard. Either way you will be happy. The mytouch has lots of cool features built in that aren't available on the nexus 1. It's bubbly and from what I've seen it actually has a better GPU than the nexus 1.
Personally I prefer the nexus 1 for me and the mytouch slide for my wife. If you don't plan on rooting your phone and flashing roms constantly than the mytouch is probably a better way to go. If you want to be able to customize everything and make sure you always have the latest and greatest, the nexus 1 is a safer bet.
Good luck! If you wait until the 19th, I think they are giving the mytouch slide away for free. Search google for the details, I think it was on tmonews.

youneek said:
I own both, and both are awesome! It really comes down to the keyboard. Either way you will be happy. The mytouch has lots of cool features built in that aren't available on the nexus 1. It's bubbly and from what I've seen it actually has a better GPU than the nexus 1.
Personally I prefer the nexus 1 for me and the mytouch slide for my wife. If you don't plan on rooting your phone and flashing roms constantly than the mytouch is probably a better way to go. If you want to be able to customize everything and make sure you always have the latest and greatest, the nexus 1 is a safer bet.
Good luck! If you wait until the 19th, I think they are giving the mytouch slide away for free. Search google for the details, I think it was on tmonews.
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The Slide actually doesn't have a better GPU, its just a lower resolution so it gets better scores.

The Galaxy S is supposedly coming to t-mobile and being announced on the 29th if you wanted to wait another month. It has the best hardware.. but i don't know about the UI.

I would go for the Nexus One! If you truely plan on keeping the phone for two years the Nexus One is a no brainer. The MT3GS hardware will be way behind in two years. The nexus one may be outdated in two years but the specs on the N1 should make it possible to keep up for quite a while.
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B Dizzle said:
I would go for the Nexus One! If you truely plan on keeping the phone for two years the Nexus One is a no brainer. The MT3GS hardware will be way behind in two years. The nexus one may be outdated in two years but the specs on the N1 should make it possible to keep up for quite a while.
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Motorola actually plans on releasing a 2GHz Android powered phone by the end of the year according to several reputable websites. The Nexus in theory will be outdated by the beginning of next year.. then will come the dual core processors that are also in development.

Eclair~ said:
Motorola actually plans on releasing a 2GHz Android powered phone by the end of the year according to several reputable websites. The Nexus in theory will be outdated by the beginning of next year.. then will come the dual core processors that are also in development.
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And 3 months after you buy that phone HTC will release a 2.5GHz phone. Welcome to the technology era!

thanks for the quick replies

I have both. Well, mytouch slide is for my wife but I'm in charge of getting it rooted and "played" with. I was very impressed at how fast it is for the specs. It is not slow at all, very fast but in the end, the nexus will keep up longer being it has the better hardware. Mytouch slide is pretty cool though imo. Very fast. Needs root. Root!

I have both. Well, mytouch slide is for my wife but I'm in charge of getting it rooted and "played" with. I was very impressed at how fast it is for the specs. It is not slow at all, very fast but in the end, the nexus will keep up longer being it has the better hardware. Mytouch slide is pretty cool though imo. Very fast. Needs root. Root!
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I second this.... In fact I'M in the exact same position. Get the nexus because it has a better camera and screen, or get the slide because you love the qwerty and like the simplicity of Sense UI.
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I'll tell you tomorrow
I got a MT3GS, and I hated what T-Mo did to the interface. I *may* have done some things to the phone to get a different interface on it.
I suggest you have a read on the Slide forum. The recovery image is not currently writable, so to get into recovery you have to go through this song and and dance every time. Add to that the low resolution screen, and well, I wasn't 100% satisfied. I ordered a nexus one while I'm in the period where I can return the slide. It'll be here tomorrow. I'll post a comparison once I've tried them both out. (I thought I needed a hardware keyboard, but Swype has convinced me otherwise.)
In favor of the slide, it *is* really snappy, a huge upgrade from the G1. It feels to me like what the G1 should have been, not tripping over itself all of the time, and there *are* a lot of people working on ROMs for it. I'm sure in another few months it'll all settle down. The keyboard is not as nice as the G1's. If only I could have a device with the G1's keyboard, and the resolution and power of the Nexus One / iPhone 4. I'd drop $700 on that right now.

setzer715 said:
And 3 months after you buy that phone HTC will release a 2.5GHz phone. Welcome to the technology era!
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Or welcome to Moore's Law.

I also have had both. My advice would be to get the Nexus One which has wifi tethering no matter how you decide to run it, stock or rooted. Then keep the g1 handy with wifi turned on and minimal apps installed just for writing emails and whatever if you need a keyboard. I hate trying to write a professional message on the N1, but its more doable on a g1. That's it's only flaw.
If you have to use the phone often while driving, the Slide will be safer. But your better off to avoid the phone while driving, except for maps and music of course. And the voice-to-text is unbelievably accurate. So the N1 wins.

I would say what you plan on doing with the device is a big factor. If you want easy rooting, the N1 is the best ATM, but if rooting is a secondary concern, the upcoming Galaxy S series looks to be the top performer at least till the end of the year. The Slide is nice, but I doubt its staying potential, unless android get a lot more optimization; there are a few things I have read that would help though. (a new Dalvik VM called Dalvik turbo is one)

It didn't take long, I returned the slide shortly after getting the nexus one. With swype this phone is fantastic, and I can actually type faster than on the keyboard off the slide. Of course, now the vanguard or whatever it's called her been leaked, so if you really need the hardware keyboard, you could wait for that in September.
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Samsung Galaxy S?????

What are your thoughts on Samsung Galaxy S or the Vibrant as it is called any body going to jump from the N1 to the Galaxy S?
I have seen some of the specs although quite impressive I still have a hard time a camera with no flash and Samsungs lack of care for their customers!
What are your thoughts??

Nah, I'm still very happy with my N1, I do have another line which has made me consider getting it for that...but I think my next android phone will have a physical keyboard, front facing camera and dual processor, plus I'm a hardcore HTC fan haha.

I am with TMobile, and I've been Rockin the G1 since it was 1st availible in 08...
I am SUPER excited about purchasing the vibrant the second its availible. (July 21)
I don't mind not having a flash bc I don't have one now. I am however excited to have a zoom on the camera.
If I'm not mistaken, sprints version will have a front facing camera, as well as a sliding keyboard. Now that's Cool. But not having those won't deter me from getting it. This whole time I was waiting till sept so I can get a full discount on the nexus, but F it...I'm glad to Jump on this Vibrant!
But I wonder... I've become so used to flashing ROMs and customizing my rooted G1, are all androids Rootable? Like, eventually will I be flashing ROMS on the vibrant?
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i am loving my N1 and I have to say that this is the BEST android phone that I have dealt with! I have an upgrade available as well and I am thinking of getting it but I know that my N1 will be my "daily".
What makes me angry with Tmo is that they always seem to be the last to jump on the BEST phones available as if Tmo is not campaigning for the cool phones like the EVO, or the Droid X. It is alomost like an after thought that we get the "hand-me-downs".
That is why I think the N1 is for now the best android device available for T-mo.

I agree 100% with you. I wish Tmo was wayyy more aggressive in their pursuit of phones. However they did have the 1st android phone. But still...TMo has always been good to me and their customer srervice is outstanding...but Jeeeezus MAAN! Let's get a decent line up of phones!.
After posting my 1st comment about the vibrant, I started looking around...seems like ppl are having uisssues with gps and lag? Great! .... for real?
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Having seen what happened with the Samsung Galaxy and Behold 2, i wouldnt ever touch a samsung android phone again!
I know alot of android phones get deserted by the manufacturer and there's tons of complaints about people stuck on 1.5 or 1.6, but what samsung did with those two phones is horrible.
For the behold 2 they didnt publish complete source code, and abandoned major updates very quickly. They said the behold 2 cant handle 2.1, when the Hero - the same hardware (MSM720x) and with less ram has just had a 2.1 update.
The Galaxy was advertised with many features it never actually had (android/software based), and it got so bad that O2 germany allowed anyone who purchased a galaxy on contract to send it back for a full refund, and this was 6 to 9 months after it was released on their network lol.
This isnt the usual 'why didnt HTC update my G1 to froyo' type of rant. Samsung abandoned these two phones within about 6 months of launch and purposly released just enough source code to cover their asses. Not impressed at all

Galaxy s is good. But I'm waiting for something that will leap frog it.
In particular, I want a screen with higher resolution. I'm not used to apple having something better than me =)

DarkDvr said:
Galaxy s is good. But I'm waiting for something that will leap frog it.
In particular, I want a screen with higher resolution. I'm not used to apple having something better than me =)
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The new screen on the Galaxy S is actually the same resolution as the new iPhone...

The only reason I have considered getting the vibrant is that I am hoping it will get rid of my edge/3g issues. Sometimes I get so pissed at my nexus, it randomly switches to edge, then pandora stops, then I have to lock it on WCDMA only, but sometimes that doesnt work lol.

I'll be getting one for the Wife who is using a MT3G
Me I'm happy with my N1, but will play around with it once she gets it

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The new screen on the Galaxy S is actually the same resolution as the new iPhone...
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No.
Galaxy S is the good old 480 x 800 pixels
iPhone 4 is 640 by 960.
Get your facts straight

DarkDvr said:
No.
Galaxy S is the good old 480 x 800 pixels
iPhone 4 is 640 by 960.
Get your facts straight
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Thank you for correcting me, last thing I want to do is give the wrong information "intentionally"

dashed said:
The only reason I have considered getting the vibrant is that I am hoping it will get rid of my edge/3g issues. Sometimes I get so pissed at my nexus, it randomly switches to edge, then pandora stops, then I have to lock it on WCDMA only, but sometimes that doesnt work lol.
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^ excellent real world experience there...
i won't buy another n1 because of the antennae issues, same with the iphone 4. it's a stupid, stupid design problem, just like the n1 has a really stupid problem with connectivity.
OFF CONTRACT- get whatever you want. i really don't understand people waiting for an 'upgrade' on contract, you can vote with your money or just play along with the rest of the sheeple.
the next android device i'll buy will be:
1 another g1, it's hard to beat for the craigslist prices now
2 whatever full querty, physical keyboard, dual processor, 1gb of ram, dual flash, OFF CONTRACT GSM phone comes out from htc.
i'll lean towards #1 since #2 might take another year or so.

gthmcty1 said:
What are your thoughts on Samsung Galaxy S or the Vibrant as it is called any body going to jump from the N1 to the Galaxy S?
I have seen some of the specs although quite impressive I still have a hard time a camera with no flash and Samsungs lack of care for their customers!
What are your thoughts??
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Another thread for you to look at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717161

I don't know enough about developing roms to know for certain, but if this thing gets released on all the major carriers in the US....couldn't we just flash roms onto any of the devices and flash our service providers radios? If thats the case (which it may or may not be, not sure how the Sprint version may differ because of the hardware keyboard and I think Verizon's version may have an LED flash) then I am going to buy one for sure. There may be a lot of support for these if they really take off and sell well. Either way I am upset with my N1's touchscreen issues and 3G issues as well, and will be replacing it as soon as a supported worthy device comes along. Its a shame too cus I love my N1 and what it stands for, its gonna suck to go back to an old school carrier locked down device.

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I don't know enough about developing roms to know for certain, but if this thing gets released on all the major carriers in the US....couldn't we just flash roms onto any of the devices and flash our service providers radios? If thats the case (which it may or may not be, not sure how the Sprint version may differ because of the hardware keyboard and I think Verizon's version may have an LED flash) then I am going to buy one for sure. There may be a lot of support for these if they really take off and sell well. Either way I am upset with my N1's touchscreen issues and 3G issues as well, and will be replacing it as soon as a supported worthy device comes along. Its a shame too cus I love my N1 and what it stands for, its gonna suck to go back to an old school carrier locked down device.
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CDMA and GSM are different technologies, and all carriers use different bands. Short answer is no.

He is saying take the ATT galaxy and flash that radio to the ATT nexus.
Still the answer is no cause a radio has to be made specifically for the nexus to work.

No what I actually meant was if it was possible to just make a sort of generic rom that could be flashed to any of the 3 similar devices...Captivate, Fascinate,and Vibrant...and then flash a specific radio image for your own carrier. Like if I flashed the rom then flashed an AT&T radio to go with it. But after having my Captivate and reading about other users flashing Vibrant roms.....my idea is a bust, there are too many physical and software differences between devices. But we have a ClockworkMod recovery now and the Cyanogen team has a Captivate and they have started work already so its looking like we'll have some new eye candy and functionality soon.

Need lil help/All input welcomed

I have a Nexus One running cm7 theme Inexus and I love this phone. Its in great shape and never thought in my mind I would ever consider selling it. Everything about it since I first got it, does everything I want it to do. Now comes into the question. I'm with T-Mobile and been with them since the begining but I feel it's time to say goodbye to them for couple different reasons. Looks like I'm going to go with cincinnati bell and they told me I could use my Nexus One with them that was great news. When I was at the store I picked up the Galaxy S and felt pretty good.
Whats the pros and cons of Nexus One and the Galaxy S. Or even though the Galaxy S felt good not on same level of N1?
Thanks for all that might beable to help me with this question.

Don't know if it matters. I have had a nexus one. Later, on ATT I picked up a captivate. I personally loved the feel of it, but the gps issues and the lack of a camera flash were game breakers to me. However, the power in screen quality almost made up for it. But here I am, sold my captivate and have an att nexus one and still love it.

Well, honestly, I would never move away from the Nexus One for a Galaxy S at this moment in time... yeah, the phone has great features but lacks the build quality of the Nexus One... the "plastic" finish just doesn't cut it... too many surface scratches too easily!!

This is the input I'm looking for, thanks guys keep them coming. I don't want to regret getting rid of my N1 if the time comes. I wish the N1 speaker sounded just a lil bit better when listening to music. But not complaining cause my N1 has been out standing for me. My girl has a comet and the speaker when listening to music sounds like its coming from a high end stereo ha.

If the AT& -T-Mobile deal goes through, would you eventually be without a 3G signal once AT&T scaps the AWS band frequency? Does Cincinatti Bell roam onto TMO's towers?

Not sure good question. Where I live with T-Mobile I'm just outside the 3g coverage. I use wifi at home. 10mins up the road 3 g kicks in.

Rod3 said:
If the AT& -T-Mobile deal goes through, would you eventually be without a 3G signal once AT&T scaps the AWS band frequency? Does Cincinatti Bell roam onto TMO's towers?
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They haven't been clear yet on how the merge would affect current phones. But one would assume they would only use the EDGE network. Because of the time it would take to finalize the deal they would most likely be able to keep the network intact till the contract ends and either offer replacements or some sort of compensation for rendering the phones useless on their new network.

Has anybody had a galaxy and a nexus one? Do they run bout the same? I know galaxy Dosnt have a flash on camera. Looking for lil more pros and cons.

Trackball, and Trackball wake
I myself have had ample time to play with both devices as my lil bro has a nexus s and i have a nexus one yes the build quality by HTC is better than the Sammy but with 500 dollar phones you had better have a case on that sucker so the plastic feel would be out the widow there. Now the hardware in the Sammy is not that much better than that in the HTC and does not hold enough gains over my nexus to make me get it. And the ultimate deal breaker for me is and it may make me keep this nexus one until im forced to get rid of it and that is the trackball alerts. There is no way that I would be able to live without my trackball notifications and trackball wake. Just my 2 cents

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Has anybody had a galaxy and a nexus one? Do they run bout the same? I know galaxy Dosnt have a flash on camera. Looking for lil more pros and cons.
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My younger brother uses the SGS and when comparing the two.. I hate the feeling of the galaxy. Not too comfortable in my hand and the plastic feeling ughh (But its great with the otterbox commuter case) Comparing the two when playing some games (I don't play so I could really care less), sgs definitely runs it faster but no camera flash is terrible. I can't live without the flash, (I almost use the camera everyday! Even in the hospital!) the torch app is so useful too. Some hardware on sgs is better, but it's missing some stuff the nexus has. It's a tough decision between the two. I hope that putting the things in brackets sort of show that it really depends on how you're going to use your phone.
Since I have the nexus and the sgs isn't a major upgrade, I'm just gonna wait it out.
If I had to choose between the two, I would go for the nexus. (To be honest, I wouldn't go for either at the rate phones are coming out right now! Just hold on to your current for a bit more!)
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Now the hardware in the Sammy is not that much better than that in the HTC and does not hold enough gains over my nexus to make me get it. And the ultimate deal breaker for me is and it may make me keep this nexus one until im forced to get rid of it and that is the trackball alerts. There is no way that I would be able to live without my trackball notifications and trackball wake. Just my 2 cents
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+1 and +1! I always have my eye on the trackball for notifications. I guess I'm gonna have to get used to this soon though Reminds me if games like goldeneye back then.. damn that game. I dunno if it's just me but b/c of it, I play all fps games with the controller settings inverted! Can't get used to that, dunno how I'll get used to no ball!!

Everybody has been very helpful. Thank you very much. Now I need lil more help on different matter lol.
My girl got the Hauwei 8100 and I just rooted it but now I want to put a stable cyanmod on it. But I have no clue what to do or where to go or what to get. I know my N1 but I have no clue bout her new phone. Can I get some help or links or step by step . (A easy way to do it ha)

Having both, the galaxy s has an amazing screen, amazing! N1 feels. Better in hand. They both run just as fast once rommed.
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I keeped the N1. I just love this phone. My girl brought back the huawei phone sucked and got the blaze. She loves it. Just need to root it and rom it ha.