I have seen pretty many ROMs here, but am unable to make out which ROM is best optimized keeping battery life in mind. Could anyone please help suggest me a ROM or two that give the most of the battery life. Please.
You could take any ROM that will work with a kernel supporting OC/UV (like Setiron's) and use Xan's voltage app to limit the top speed of the CPU to something less than stock (1ghz is stock, your choices would be 800, 400, 200, 100)
Then apply an undervolt as low as you can go while still being stable.
This will of course result in a slower device, but that's the tradeoff. Less speed for more battery life.
Do note that the screen is the largest user of power by far and thus you can make the most difference by keeping the backlight as low as tolerable and shut it off whenever you aren't actively using it.
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You could take any ROM that will work with a kernel supporting OC/UV (like Setiron's) and use Xan's voltage app to limit the top speed of the CPU to something less than stock (1ghz is stock, your choices would be 800, 400, 200, 100)
Then apply an undervolt as low as you can go while still being stable.
This will of course result in a slower device, but that's the tradeoff. Less speed for more battery life.
Do note that the screen is the largest user of power by far and thus you can make the most difference by keeping the backlight as low as tolerable and shut it off whenever you aren't actively using it.
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Thanks Da_G. I did use SetCPU, and set the speed to 800, but for some reason it is giving me lower battery life compared to without SetCPU. So took it out.
Also, I have my screen brightness turned all the way down with auto set to off.
I meant to ask for a ROM that has all the battery hogging stuff in it removed/optimized.
I am currently like 45% left after about 8 hours with moderate usage. Trying to see if I can stretch more than this.
My today's usage statistics:
1. 11 hours 25 min 4 secs since unplugged
2. Battery remaining: 63%
3. Voice calls: 1h 10m 15s
4. Display: 1h 15m 42s
5. 2 gmail accounts with push turned on with about 10 mails delivered today
6. google voice with push all time with about 100-120 messages delivered using push
a. I do not have SetCPU.
b. I have my brightness set to 0, with auto-brightness turned off.
c. I used SamServMode to turn on EDGE, and 3G turned off since the phone was off charging hook. In short, on EDGE all the time.
d. Static but nice, colored wall paper.
Could anyone suggest me if this is good enough. And any ROM that could get me battery atleast on par with what I am getting.
A few of my ideas:
1. Use a dark colored theme. Our nice SUPER AMOLED screens don't use up much power to draw black - so the more black - the merrier.
2. Be careful of what extra apps running. Things like widget locker are one more app to run. Go slender. Theme's are okay if they replace files like frameworkres.apk but if they run in background (see it under processes) then that's bad.
3. Be extra careful of making sure you are fully charged when you flash. This means, charge, turn off, charge, turn on, charge, flash. I get a little more charge when I go back to eclair stock .
also note that 95% of battery is the screen
Everything else that was said before me was spot on so try that too.
fatttire said:
A few of my ideas:
1. Use a dark colored theme. Our nice SUPER AMOLED screens don't use up much power to draw black - so the more black - the merrier.
2. Be careful of what extra apps running. Things like widget locker are one more app to run. Go slender. Theme's are okay if they replace files like frameworkres.apk but if they run in background (see it under processes) then that's bad.
3. Be extra careful of making sure you are fully charged when you flash. This means, charge, turn off, charge, turn on, charge, flash. I get a little more charge when I go back to eclair stock .
also note that 95% of battery is the screen
Everything else that was said before me was spot on so try that too.
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Thank you kind sir. I shall do this. But I am not flashing anymore.
I loaded the AOSP ROM from Spaceman here
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827153&page=36
and am getting pretty much the battery backup I was getting with stock.
Thanks a bunch everyone who helped me on this.
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I've noticed on my Revolution that the CPU always runs at 1ghz. I thought CPU throttling was a standard feature in android?
Anyhow I installed CPU tuner and I get much better standby battery life now (~2% drain/hr when not using phone vs. ~5% drain/hr on standby). The phone runs mostly at 124mhz w the screen off. My problem is my revolution reboots pretty frequently and sometimes even just completely shuts down w CPU tuner on. I still get reboots once in awhile w CPU tuner turned off, but much less frequently.
Anyone else having this problem? I also have green power running in the background to turn off the data connection w the screen off. Are you guys who use setCPU not getting reboots? If so I'll spend the $2 and give that a try.
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Long time lurker, but 1st time poster.
I've noticed on my Revolution that the CPU always runs at 1ghz. I thought CPU throttling was a standard feature in android?
Anyhow I installed CPU tuner and I get much better standby battery life now (~2% drain/hr when not using phone vs. ~5% drain/hr on standby). The phone runs mostly at 124mhz w the screen off. My problem is my revolution reboots pretty frequently and sometimes even just completely shuts down w CPU tuner on. I still get reboots once in awhile w CPU tuner turned off, but much less frequently.
Anyone else having this problem? I also have green power running in the background to turn off the data connection w the screen off. Are you guys who use setCPU not getting reboots? If so I'll spend the $2 and give that a try.
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I honestly don't think anyone has been messing with the CPU until the CM ROM is released.
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Long time lurker, but 1st time poster.
I've noticed on my Revolution that the CPU always runs at 1ghz. I thought CPU throttling was a standard feature in android?
Anyhow I installed CPU tuner and I get much better standby battery life now (~2% drain/hr when not using phone vs. ~5% drain/hr on standby). The phone runs mostly at 124mhz w the screen off. My problem is my revolution reboots pretty frequently and sometimes even just completely shuts down w CPU tuner on. I still get reboots once in awhile w CPU tuner turned off, but much less frequently.
Anyone else having this problem? I also have green power running in the background to turn off the data connection w the screen off. Are you guys who use setCPU not getting reboots? If so I'll spend the $2 and give that a try.
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As far as I've seen, the Revo's CPU does automatically speed scale to the necessary load.
If you're running lots of apps in the background, with the screen on Android will keep the cpu at full throttle to provide a smooth experience for you.
As soon as you turn off the screen, it will throttle it down as much as it can.
If the phone's rebooting on you, that's because whatever cpu tuner is doing may be keeping the cpu speed too low for the demand of the OS, then the watchdog kicks in when it thinks the cpu is stuck in a loop. (watchdog wants to be petted every 30 seconds, if the cpu misses that, the watchdog reboots the phone)
I use setcpu and have no reboot issues.
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throttle
I use android system info to show the CPU speed. It shows the % of time my revolution is running at each speed. W/o using a 3rd party app it always shows 100% at 1Ghz. W CPU tuner running it shows 50% at 122Mhz, 25% at 1Ghz, and 25% in between.
I don't think I'm running any apps thats sucking up a lot of CPU. I'm rooted w most of bloat removed.
Am I the only one not seeing any CPU throttle on stock?
i'm not seeing any throttling on stock.
setcpu drastically improved battery life when the phone's off, and no reboot issues.
some issues initially with the phone not throttling back up quickly enough when i got a call, making me unable to answer the call, but played with the settings and made it so it automatically throttles back up to 1024 when i get a call, and now it's fine.
Exactly Im much happier with my phone now. I had the same issue when I received a call but set up the profile as u did and have no problems at all
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i'm not seeing any throttling on stock.
setcpu drastically improved battery life when the phone's off, and no reboot issues.
some issues initially with the phone not throttling back up quickly enough when i got a call, making me unable to answer the call, but played with the settings and made it so it automatically throttles back up to 1024 when i get a call, and now it's fine.
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I am using setCPU as well with no issues. I have mine set were the screen is off it goes to 124 and clocks back up to full 1GHz when it is on. Helps greatly improve my battery.
So what settings do you use? I get really bad lag when waking my Revo. Sometimes it will reboot after waking too.
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I don't know if this is a CPU throttling issue, or a general REVO issue, but I get horrible horrible lag sometimes trying to get any programs to respond. Like press the home key, or click send, or anything like that. I'm running Decrap 1.1, I don't know if I have too many processes running or what.
Interesting. The Thunderbolt has the same issue. Is it the same CPU in that phone?
So as the title says, my note has never lasted a full day on a full charge. Even with moderate use, it lasts maybe 15-16 hours. With heavy use, playing a game or 2 or using the browser, it lasts maybe 9 hours. From the first day I got it I've rooted it and have used only the romow rom.
Currently on the version 7.5 HD.
BB: LA4
Kernal: AbyssNote 3.3
Each time I flash a new rom I always do a battery calibration test and even wipe the battery stats on recovery.
I notice people get a full day's use from the battery and maybe even more. Is there something I am missing? My wi-fi is always off unless I am at home or when needed. I turn the data connection off too most of the times. When I look at the battery usage in settings (I do this often), the display shows the most usage, always more than 65%, and nothing else. The android system, android OS, cell standby and whatever else are always less than 10%. Is there something I can do to increase the time the battery lasts? I'd like to get a full day's worth, and even more
Use black backgrounds and dark apps? Amoleds don't use power to display black. Whites will suck your battery dry.
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Recently i visited a samsung service centre. I asked the engineer as what kind of problems people have reported in the note other than screen issues and he said battery issues and people ve got their batteries replaced. Maybe u want to get urs checked.
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I would also suggest get your battery checked. But more than likely, Samsung will say 15-16 hours of moderate use is normal.
I am currently using Rocket ROM v20 with Abyss 3.5b. I have had it without charge for 12 hours now and from 100% it is at 82% right now. So far today I have watch an ep of anime (22mins long), gaming for 1.5 hours, had 4 phone calls (total of 42 mins). I think only draining 18% after all of that is impressive.
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I would also suggest get your battery checked. But more than likely, Samsung will say 15-16 hours of moderate use is normal.
I am currently using Rocket ROM v20 with Abyss 3.5b. I have had it without charge for 12 hours now and from 100% it is at 82% right now. So far today I have watch an ep of anime (22mins long), gaming for 1.5 hours, had 4 phone calls (total of 42 mins). I think only draining 18% after all of that is impressive.
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That is impressive. If I watch a 40 min show only, my battery would go down from 100% to 65. And if I play a game for an hour (depends on the cpu/ram usage the game takes up to), then my battery is at 20%. And this has been since the beginning. The moderate use I am talking about is calls here and there, texting, playing a game for maybe 20 min. Like today I played Shadowgun for a total of an hour, where's my water for 20 min, and texted a bit, made 2 calls, and used dolphin browser for 10 min. It hasnt even been 12 hours and my battery is at 20%. Ahhh I think I just need to get a new battery.
I know roms/kernals/basebands all factor into battery usage as well, so are there any suggestions as to which one might be good with this? Aesthetically I love romow's rom. I love every layout of it. Rocket rom is a little too "in your face" kind of, atleast for me.
Im always set my brightness to 0% and im not using auto brightness. What if you change the kernel to FM 2.0 Kernel. i find it saves more batt than abyss kernel.
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So as the title says, my note has never lasted a full day on a full charge. Even with moderate use, it lasts maybe 15-16 hours. With heavy use, playing a game or 2 or using the browser, it lasts maybe 9 hours. From the first day I got it I've rooted it and have used only the romow rom.
Currently on the version 7.5 HD.
BB: LA4
Kernal: AbyssNote 3.3
Each time I flash a new rom I always do a battery calibration test and even wipe the battery stats on recovery.
I notice people get a full day's use from the battery and maybe even more. Is there something I am missing? My wi-fi is always off unless I am at home or when needed. I turn the data connection off too most of the times. When I look at the battery usage in settings (I do this often), the display shows the most usage, always more than 65%, and nothing else. The android system, android OS, cell standby and whatever else are always less than 10%. Is there something I can do to increase the time the battery lasts? I'd like to get a full day's worth, and even more
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Time to get one of these: 4500mAh battery for Galaxy Note
Also try to use Go Launcher's task killer and low usage of 3G.
dr. xp55 said:
That is impressive. If I watch a 40 min show only, my battery would go down from 100% to 65. And if I play a game for an hour (depends on the cpu/ram usage the game takes up to), then my battery is at 20%. And this has been since the beginning. The moderate use I am talking about is calls here and there, texting, playing a game for maybe 20 min. Like today I played Shadowgun for a total of an hour, where's my water for 20 min, and texted a bit, made 2 calls, and used dolphin browser for 10 min. It hasnt even been 12 hours and my battery is at 20%. Ahhh I think I just need to get a new battery.
I know roms/kernals/basebands all factor into battery usage as well, so are there any suggestions as to which one might be good with this? Aesthetically I love romow's rom. I love every layout of it. Rocket rom is a little too "in your face" kind of, atleast for me.
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I actually like the "in your face" look, of course that is my preference. I heard that checkrom is good for battery but in all honesty, I have tried a couple of roms and there isn't a huge difference between them. The biggest difference with battery usage I have notice is when you start using a OCing app with profiles like SetCPU. Tweak the power usage with each speed step and create profiles for when the screen is off, on call and etc.
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So as the title says, my note has never lasted a full day on a full charge. Even with moderate use, it lasts maybe 15-16 hours. With heavy use, playing a game or 2 or using the browser, it lasts maybe 9 hours. From the first day I got it I've rooted it and have used only the romow rom.
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How hot does it get compared to room temp? 15C warmer? 20C warmer?
I'd really love to work with some people to come up with a step by step guide on how to track down and fix battery drain / over heat problems.
The best way to waste power is to make heat with radio chip and GPU. Second best is to make light with torch or screen.
I know with the change in battery technology, some old practice no longer applies but I still follow the old rule of thumb when I get a new equipment.
When I got my Note, the very first thing I did was charge the phone for 12 hours before actually using it. You might want to give that a shot, the reading on the battery may not always be correct.
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So as the title says, my note has never lasted a full day on a full charge. Even with moderate use, it lasts maybe 15-16 hours. With heavy use, playing a game or 2 or using the browser, it lasts maybe 9 hours. From the first day I got it I've rooted it and have used only the romow rom.
Currently on the version 7.5 HD.
BB: LA4
Kernal: AbyssNote 3.3
Each time I flash a new rom I always do a battery calibration test and even wipe the battery stats on recovery.
I notice people get a full day's use from the battery and maybe even more. Is there something I am missing? My wi-fi is always off unless I am at home or when needed. I turn the data connection off too most of the times. When I look at the battery usage in settings (I do this often), the display shows the most usage, always more than 65%, and nothing else. The android system, android OS, cell standby and whatever else are always less than 10%. Is there something I can do to increase the time the battery lasts? I'd like to get a full day's worth, and even more
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may i know which governor are you using? try to update the AbyssNote kernel to latest v3.5c and try either the AbyssPlug, lulzactive or SmartassV2 governor then see if there's any difference
Running stock LA4 ROM here. Brightness usually on lowest. If you don't touch the phone, it can last on standby a week. See below how it only lost 3% after 17 hours. Of course as the screen was off all the time, the internal processes take most of the power consumed.
After more than 1 day I still have 50% battery. See how it drops fast when I'm using the phone to read and download web pages.
I have the self same issue - battery hardly lasts a day - I just about manage to get home 8 hours later on critical - to hook it up to mains to charge.
All I use it during the course of the day - is browsing forums via tapatalk, viewing the occasional email. No hectic media consumption and music playing.
I am trying a different route now - it was running on stock firmware - over the weekend I've taken the following steps.
Rooted my device , installed CheckRom Revo v5 , running speedmod kernel with modem LA4
Hoping to see how that improves things.
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That is impressive. If I watch a 40 min show only, my battery would go down from 100% to 65. And if I play a game for an hour (depends on the cpu/ram usage the game takes up to), then my battery is at 20%. And this has been since the beginning. The moderate use I am talking about is calls here and there, texting, playing a game for maybe 20 min. Like today I played Shadowgun for a total of an hour, where's my water for 20 min, and texted a bit, made 2 calls, and used dolphin browser for 10 min. It hasnt even been 12 hours and my battery is at 20%. Ahhh I think I just need to get a new battery.
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First of all, you should post a screen shot of your battery graph.
How bright is your screen? If it's at 100%, then you're going to chew through battery very fast.
Games that require very high cpu usage will kill the battery.
Some games I can play forever on - some games, like Plants vs zombies, or puzzle quest 2, kill the battery. I can probably get 3-4 hours worth on a battery, and that's with a very low screen brightness. That's the price to pay with a fast cpu.
Dolphin is quite the battery hog too. I try to avoid it - I browse for hours with opera mobile, especially with the green on black mod.
- Frank
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may i know which governor are you using? try to update the AbyssNote kernel to latest v3.5c and try either the AbyssPlug, lulzactive or SmartassV2 governor then see if there's any difference
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I use the ondemand governor usually with overclocked to 1600. The only profile I have set is the temperature over-heat (temperature above 104 F, 40.3 C) and i've set it to conservative with max cpu to 1200. What should I set the screen off and in call frequency to be? I have just updated to AbyssNote 3.5 and changed the governor to AbyssPlug. Lets see how it pans out tm
My voltage settings are:
1704 MHz - 1375
1664 MHz - 1350
1600 MHz - 1325
1400 MHz - 1300
1200 MHz - 1250
1000 - 1125
800 - 1000
500 - 900
200 - 850
100 - 850
ChodTheWacko said:
First of all, you should post a screen shot of your battery graph.
How bright is your screen? If it's at 100%, then you're going to chew through battery very fast.
Games that require very high cpu usage will kill the battery.
Some games I can play forever on - some games, like Plants vs zombies, or puzzle quest 2, kill the battery. I can probably get 3-4 hours worth on a battery, and that's with a very low screen brightness. That's the price to pay with a fast cpu.
Dolphin is quite the battery hog too. I try to avoid it - I browse for hours with opera mobile, especially with the green on black mod.
- Frank
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Whats the best app for battery statistics? I will get the graph and post a screenshot tm. My brightness is usually 50 % set in the middle always. Today I put my brightness all the way down to 0, I literally did not use my phone, maybe turned it on couple times during the day for 2 min, sent 1 text, played a game for 5 min, and used a medical application for 10 min, just to check the battery. With that much minimal amount of phone usage, after about 9 hours my battery was at 79%. Is that normal?
Just wanted to say thanks for the help also
it should make a difference. for battery monitoring, I'm using Battery Monitor widget. you may give it a try.
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dr. xp55 said:
I use the ondemand governor usually with overclocked to 1600. The only profile I have set is the temperature over-heat (temperature above 104 F, 40.3 C) and i've set it to conservative with max cpu to 1200. What should I set the screen off and in call frequency to be? I have just updated to AbyssNote 3.5 and changed the governor to AbyssPlug. Lets see how it pans out tm
My voltage settings are:
1704 MHz - 1375
1664 MHz - 1350
1600 MHz - 1325
1400 MHz - 1300
1200 MHz - 1250
1000 - 1125
800 - 1000
500 - 900
200 - 850
100 - 850
Whats the best app for battery statistics? I will get the graph and post a screenshot tm. My brightness is usually 50 % set in the middle always. Today I put my brightness all the way down to 0, I literally did not use my phone, maybe turned it on couple times during the day for 2 min, sent 1 text, played a game for 5 min, and used a medical application for 10 min, just to check the battery. With that much minimal amount of phone usage, after about 9 hours my battery was at 79%. Is that normal?
Just wanted to say thanks for the help also
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Install better battery stats and check for kernel wakelocks. If there exists some that last longer than 10 mins then some app is involved in the battery leak
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After clearing cache through recovery and doing a hard reset, the uAh has gone back to 3142000. Standby time seems good with the battery losing 7% overnight. It does charge quite quickly from 0-100 in about 2h. The previous heating issue remains with cpu monitors showing that the cpu jumps to high clock when I touch the screen. I don't see any change in which apps use the most battery with the screen taking up the most as before the problem started.
The heat appears to be what is draining the battery but I can't find any single app that causes it to ramp to max.
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No-frills is set to stock settings to see how the phone handles the actions
2nd picture is when phone is idle
3rd picture is immediately after swiping through a few tabs and scrolling through some pages in the app which causes cpu clock and load to increase
Old sectionFor when battery uAh was low)
I've had this Z1 for about 11 months. I can only get around 2.5h on screen time with regular usage. The battery uAh was only 1848000 Recently it fell to the 1700s. Calibration appears to reduce the value further. The phone seems to heat up in about a minute or two no matter what app is running.
The phone is rooted on stock 4.4.2
I have tried updating to Lollipop before but received an error due to rooting, so I don't think anything changed.
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sounds like it's time for you to replace your battery.
You may try to disable the "input boost frequency"
By default when you toch the screen, cpu frequency of two cores instantly jumps to around 1400 to preventing any lag but it seems to use more power and causing heat
I have disables this and since then I'm no longer have any heat issue and also the battery life is so much better now but you may exprience a little lag while scrolling on heavy web pages but thats all
Btw i'm on .157 and using Kernel Adiutor for cpu tweaks
You may disable this by the app mentioned above or by editing sys.somc.touch_perf_kick=1 from 1 to 0 in buid.prop or adding this line